Re: [NetBehaviour] Accelerationism

On 24/04/16 04:52 PM, Gretta Louw wrote: > Death to the ludicrous, imperialist notion of 'mastery'! >From the Manifesto: "14. [...] Real democracy must be defined by its goal — collective self-mastery. This is a project which must align politics with the legacy of the Enlightenment, to the

Re: [NetBehaviour] Accelerationism

I'm not sure there's novelty in open cultural and scientific concepts, quite the contrary they are interested in being general/social and consensual. Advisory committees I think are a great example of providing instances of some of the steps that can be taken elsewhere - take for instance a

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In response to Erik’s posting - this actually sounds as if Accelerationism is a moralist project, at least here: "a weird utopia of everyone [snip] being in the conversation and allowing that broader counterpoint to qualify and correct expert views”. This is why advisory committees are often

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I want to reply to this and Gretta's message that preceded it in a manner that mediates the two perspectives. In this way, perhaps we could talk about something like a dilettante accelerationism, but I will look a little outside this to what I might term a genealogy of the accelerationist, that

Re: [NetBehaviour] Accelerationism

On Wed, 27 Apr 2016, Rob Myers wrote: On 25/04/16 06:16 AM, Alan Sondheim wrote: A few pieces and others we did that might be germane - [...] Accessgrid pieces - in which we used a multi-channel linux conferencing system to bounce signals around the world creating video echos of speech/

Re: [NetBehaviour] Accelerationism

On 25/04/16 06:16 AM, Alan Sondheim wrote: > > A few pieces and others we did that might be germane - > > [...] > > Accessgrid pieces - in which we used a multi-channel linux conferencing > system to bounce signals around the world creating video echos of > speech/ sound/movement; the delays

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A few pieces and others we did that might be germane - Ennui - Azure singing and F and I dancing and playing as fast as possible for as long as possible - the piece usually bottoms out around ten minutes. (started around 2002) Accessgrid pieces - in which we used a multi-channel linux

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I elaborated in a previous post. Manifesto’s are rarely discursive and I don’t really see why they require such a response. best Simon Simon Biggs si...@littlepig.org.uk http://www.littlepig.org.uk http://amazon.com/author/simonbiggs

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On April 24, 2016 1:08:38 PM PDT, Anthony Stephenson wrote: >Doctors, lawyers and anyone who knows that what the market will bear >sometimes knows no limit, will only contribute this disparity until, >let’s >say, a personal version of something like Chile’s Cybersyn is made

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I worry about dilettantes as much as master, for example people working in bioart potentially releasing organisms into the environment without understanding the chemical flows of biomes and organisms (no one understands all of this today!). One of the things I've learned to respect is the

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"The soul of wit, is the very body of untruth." -Aldous Huxley So sharp? So definitive? Is there not room for debate? at least can you e-lab-or-ate? Bz On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 6:15 PM, Simon Biggs wrote: > Nope - don’t buy it. Quackery… > > best > > Simon > > > *Simon

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Nope - don’t buy it. Quackery… best Simon Simon Biggs si...@littlepig.org.uk http://www.littlepig.org.uk http://amazon.com/author/simonbiggs http://www.unisanet.unisa.edu.au/staff/homepage.asp?name=simon.biggs http://www.eca.ed.ac.uk/school-of-art/simon-biggs > On 25 Apr 2016, at 03:36,

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I agree with Alan. The human species has evolved to the point where it is no longer adapted to its environment. Humans now seek to adapt the environment to the species. That is not working. If the human species was to become extinct today that would be the best thing that could happen to the

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Oh, and let's revive the dilettantes! No more supposed experts, would-be 'masters'. Surely no one who uses this language - even in relation to ostensibly abstract problems or inanimate matter - has read and understood anything about intersectional feminism, digital colonialism and the corrupt

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Death to the ludicrous, imperialist notion of 'mastery'! I lean more towards Alan's thoughts on the role/impact of humans but think that this is probably besides the point because, yes, we are all heading towards an end and a new beginning and more ends anyway. I'm the meantime, though, this

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While the original Nietzschean wish for capital to play itself out, I’m thinking that the (Left) Accelerationism of the past twenty years might have more to do with a flash on the possibility to "Seize the Means of Production". With the popularization of computing and cybernetics, some might have

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The crux, again, is this - you say - I doubt the capabilities of our species are any more than any other in the ability to alter the fundamentals of Life. - but from everything I've read and researched, this just isn't true. The disagreement is deep; for one thing I don't feel guilty, but a

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Hi Alan - You know well that the diff. between this and the Perm. for example is this is the result of a particular species running amuck. And with 40-50 % of ocean life scheduled to disappear, etc. as a result of climate, microspherules, etc., the situation is a mess. Yes, there will be

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sounds good to me, the idea of unmastery resonates - thanks - On Sun, 24 Apr 2016, John Hopkins wrote: "21. We declare that only a Promethean politics of maximal mastery over society and its environment is capable of either dealing with global ...snip... it discovers only in the

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"21. We declare that only a Promethean politics of maximal mastery over society and its environment is capable of either dealing with global ...snip... it discovers only in the course of its acting, in a politics of geosocial artistry and cunning rationality. A form of abductive

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Hi Pall, Here's the crux of the problem: " whilst we cannot predict the precise result of our actions, we can determine probabilistically likely ranges of outcomes. What must be coupled to such complex systems analysis is a new form of action: improvisatory and capable of executing a design

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Some of the epistemic accelerationists are interested in the work of the philosopher Robert Brandom, who talks about rational, revisable norms. There's been some criticism of that from the point of view of "Risk Society" (Suhail Malik in Collapse Journal VIII). I'm uncomfortable about

Re: [NetBehaviour] Accelerationism

>From Manifesto for an Accelerationist Politics ( http://criticallegalthinking.com/2013/05/14/accelerate-manifesto-for-an-accelerationist-politics/ ): "21. We declare that only a Promethean politics of maximal mastery over society and its environment is capable of either dealing with global

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Can you say more? On Sun, 24 Apr 2016, Pall Thayer wrote: Alan: But isn't that the whole idea behind left-acceleration? On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 9:46 AM Alan Sondheim wrote: I agree and the problem precisely is acceleration; the biosphere doesn't adapt

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You know well that the diff. between this and the Perm. for example is this is the result of a particular species running amuck. And with 40-50 % of ocean life scheduled to disappear, etc. as a result of climate, microspherules, etc., the situation is a mess. Yes, there will be something

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learning to listen, listening, is necessary. The fundamental problem I think is that we're blind when it comes to ecosystems, energy, micro- biomes, and so forth. The fundamentals of mycology are being rewritten as we discuss, and what's emerging are whole universes of ignorance. Meanwhile we

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Alan: But isn't that the whole idea behind left-acceleration? On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 9:46 AM Alan Sondheim wrote: > > I agree and the problem precisely is acceleration; the biosphere doesn't > adapt well to accelerated change, as the plights of sealions, walrus, > migrant

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I agree and the problem precisely is acceleration; the biosphere doesn't adapt well to accelerated change, as the plights of sealions, walrus, migrant birds, ocean lives, indicate. If anything, a form of holding-back, learning to listen, listening, is necessary. The fundamental problem I

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Absolutely agree with this Ruth. The imperialist and colonialist attitudes that dominate most contemporary, western thinking are extended, of course in exaggerated form, into thinking about other species, non-human structures etc. The anthropocene is colonialistic. On this, I would highly

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onal Socialism Journal by the book's author:http://pubs.socialistreviewindex.org.uk/isj96/foster.htm warmest wishesmichael From: ruth catlow <ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org> To: netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Accel

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Yes Michael, and this is profoundly poetic. All human traditions, values and communities are dissolved in an acid bath of everlasting agitation and uncertainty. What this passage does not describe though is a situation where the wider ecologies of non-human planetary life, upon which we

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This quote from Marx and Engels certainly describes current management practices. I have experience of management workshops where the socially and psychologically disruptive methods outlined in the quote below are promoted and explicitly employed. The aim is to keep workers on their toes -