Re: [netmod] Fwd: Re: Leafref and require-instance=false

2015-06-08 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
like Balazs' example but in fact it is different - if there is no foo, the must expression doesn't apply. Lada Kent Andy ___ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod -- Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs

Re: [netmod] need input on diffserv Yang model

2015-06-03 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
are rare. Sorry for the long explanation, but hopefully the explanation is clear. Thanks for your inputs. Norm ___ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod -- Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID

Re: [netmod] anydata

2015-06-10 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On 09 Jun 2015, at 22:23, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote: Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote: Hi, RFC 6020bis says in Sec. 7.10: The anydata statement is used to represent an unknown set of nodes that can be modelled with YANG. I'd like to clarify what this means with respect

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-06-17 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On 17 Jun 2015, at 13:51, Juergen Schoenwaelder j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 01:41:56PM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: Well, but it is exactly what Kent objected against. It is the requirement to support “old clients” that causes the trouble here

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-06-17 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
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Re: [netmod] IPR Poll for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01

2015-06-16 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
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Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-07-01 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
these examples. Thanks, Lada Thanks, Kent ___ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod -- Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C ___ netmod mailing list

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-json-04 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-07-01 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On 01 Jul 2015, at 09:21, Juergen Schoenwaelder j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de wrote: On Wed, Jul 01, 2015 at 08:54:07AM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: Juergen Schoenwaelder j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de writes: On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 04:07:10PM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-json-04 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-07-01 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On 01 Jul 2015, at 14:33, Juergen Schoenwaelder j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de wrote: On Wed, Jul 01, 2015 at 02:03:15PM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: On 01 Jul 2015, at 09:21, Juergen Schoenwaelder j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de wrote: On Wed, Jul 01, 2015 at 08:54:07AM

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-07-01 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
here but I fear they could still make for unnecessary discussions. Martin already pointed out in his review that it may be wiser to replace the inactive annotation with something less controversial. ok. Regards, Benoit -- Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-06-30 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
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Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-06-30 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
implemented the data model in I-D XYZ I am implementing the data model in I-D XYZ I am considering to implement the data model in I-D XYZ This is the first Last Call for this document. Kent, as NETMOD co-chair -- Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C

[netmod] IANA Consideration

2015-06-30 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
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Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-07-02 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
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Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-07-02 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com writes: Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote: On 01 Jul 2015, at 16:25, Benoit Claise bcla...@cisco.com wrote: Hi Lada, ay - The set of annotations must be extensible in a distributed manner so as to allow for defining new

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-01 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-07-02 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
example. Otherwise, it's difficult to visualize how these metadata should be used. Sure, there will be at least one. I just have to select an appropriate one to demonstrate the intended use without stirring up some ghosts. Lada Regards, Benoit (as a contributor) -- Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-json-04 (until 2015-06-29)

2015-07-04 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On 02 Jul 2015, at 22:08, Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 11:33 PM, Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote: Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com writes: I agree with Juergen that the implementation of YANG constraints on a datastore is not XML-specific

Re: [netmod] Y35: allow empty in union

2015-06-29 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
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Re: [netmod] VRFY :45: better conformance mechanism

2015-05-22 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
would also support leaf a in module A of type foo from foo@2001-01-01 leaf b in module A of type foo from foo@2002-02-02 Of course, how much a specific implementation is affected will vary, but I don't think the concepts are *that* different. /martin -- Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs

Re: [netmod] VRFY :45: better conformance mechanism

2015-05-22 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
, how much a specific implementation is affected will vary, but I don't think the concepts are *that* different. /martin -- Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C ___ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [netmod] VRFY :45: better conformance mechanism

2015-05-21 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On 21 May 2015, at 16:50, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote: Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote: On 21 May 2015, at 16:42, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote: Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote: RFC 6020 also states that must and when expessions are XPath 1.0, and we

Re: [netmod] new YANG 1.1 Issue Y61: I2RS support

2015-08-03 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
a new data node type though an extension. Lada /js Andy -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 http://www.jacobs-university.de/ -- Ladislav

[netmod] domain-name

2015-08-17 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
-name pattern. Lada -- Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C ___ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod

Re: [netmod] Constraint on mandatory on nodes as part of augmentation in RFC6020bis

2015-08-16 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
, but with no formal representation of their common heritage. Randy ___ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod -- Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C

Re: [netmod] domain-name

2015-08-17 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On 17 Aug 2015, at 18:50, Randy Presuhn randy_pres...@mindspring.com wrote: Hi - From: Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz Sent: Aug 17, 2015 6:12 AM To: netmod@ietf.org Subject: [netmod] domain-name Hi, it seems the typedef domain-name in the ietf-inet-types (RFC 6991) is too

Re: [netmod] Y34 - root node

2015-08-20 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
data model complexity to devices which do not have virtual servers (most of them). /martin Andy ___ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod -- Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C

Re: [netmod] Y34 - root node

2015-08-21 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
; // allow this specific top-level node /martin . ___ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod -- Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C

Re: [netmod] Y26 again, sorry

2015-08-24 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz writes: Hi, 2. The rogue vendor can use a must statement to achieve the same effect (or perhaps just state it in a description?). What’s important is whether the server that advertises such an extension rejects a configuration where the new parameter is missing

Re: [netmod] Y26 again, sorry

2015-08-24 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On 24 Aug 2015, at 18:42, Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote: Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz writes: Hi, 2. The rogue vendor can use a must statement to achieve the same effect (or perhaps just state

Re: [netmod] Y26 again, sorry

2015-08-24 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On 24 Aug 2015, at 21:01, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote: Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote: On 24 Aug 2015, at 20:17, Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote: YANG does not provide any mechanism to REQUIRE modules A and B to both be implemented on a server. You may think

Re: [netmod] extensions and conformance

2015-08-20 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On 20 Aug 2015, at 12:37, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote: Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote: Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com writes: Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 5:49 AM, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote: Hi, [joining

Re: [netmod] extensions and conformance

2015-08-20 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On 20 Aug 2015, at 15:26, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote: Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote: Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com writes: Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote: On 20 Aug 2015, at 13:12, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote: Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote

Re: [netmod] Y26 again, sorry

2015-08-18 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On 18 Aug 2015, at 15:42, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote: Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote: On 18 Aug 2015, at 13:09, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote: Hi, Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote: Hi, although YANG 1.1 issue Y26 [1] is marked as DONE, I think

Re: [netmod] Constraint on mandatory on nodes as part of augmentation in RFC6020bis

2015-08-17 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Randy Presuhn randy_pres...@mindspring.com writes: Hi - From: Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz Sent: Aug 16, 2015 12:52 AM To: Randy Presuhn randy_pres...@mindspring.com, netmod@ietf.org netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] Constraint on mandatory on nodes as part of augmentation in RFC6020bis

Re: [netmod] IANA Consideration

2015-06-30 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On 30 Jun 2015, at 16:11, Acee Lindem (acee) a...@cisco.com wrote: Hi Lada, On 6/30/15, 4:52 AM, Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote: Hi, is it OK that 6020bis again defines “YANG Module Names” registry? It was already defined in RFC 6020 so I’d say it shouldn’t be repeated

Re: [netmod] new YANG 1.1 Issue Y61: I2RS support

2015-07-29 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On 29 Jul 2015, at 17:02, Juergen Schoenwaelder j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 04:55:03PM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: On 29 Jul 2015, at 16:44, Juergen Schoenwaelder j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 04:38:41PM

Re: [netmod] new YANG 1.1 Issue Y61: I2RS support

2015-07-30 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On 30 Jul 2015, at 13:31, Jernej Tuljak jern...@mg-soft.si wrote: Ladislav Lhotka je 30.7.2015 ob 11:30 napisal: On 30 Jul 2015, at 01:12, Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote: Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com

Re: [netmod] new YANG 1.1 Issue Y61: I2RS support

2015-07-30 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On 30 Jul 2015, at 13:41, Jernej Tuljak jern...@mg-soft.si wrote: Ladislav Lhotka je 30.7.2015 ob 13:35 napisal: On 30 Jul 2015, at 13:31, Jernej Tuljak jern...@mg-soft.si wrote: Ladislav Lhotka je 30.7.2015 ob 11:30 napisal: On 30 Jul 2015, at 01:12, Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com

Re: [netmod] new YANG 1.1 Issue Y61: I2RS support

2015-07-30 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On 30 Jul 2015, at 13:38, Juergen Schoenwaelder j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 01:31:01PM +0200, Jernej Tuljak wrote: Ladislav Lhotka je 30.7.2015 ob 11:30 napisal: On 30 Jul 2015, at 01:12, Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 29

Re: [netmod] new YANG 1.1 Issue Y61: I2RS support

2015-07-29 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
wrote: Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 2:58 AM, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote: Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote: On 28 Jul 2015, at 11:42, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote: Hi, Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com

Re: [netmod] new YANG 1.1 Issue Y62: YANG should not be NETCONF-specific

2015-07-29 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
that at least some of my IETF work ever gets finished. Lada /js On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 01:06:54PM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: On 26 Jul 2015, at 12:55, Juergen Schoenwaelder j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de wrote: Any are concrete actionable proposals? Start rewriting

Re: [netmod] new YANG 1.1 Issue Y61: I2RS support

2015-07-29 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 http://www.jacobs-university.de/ ___ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod -- Ladislav

Re: [netmod] new YANG 1.1 Issue Y61: I2RS support

2015-08-03 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On 03 Aug 2015, at 18:01, Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote: On 03 Aug 2015, at 16:41, Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 2:25 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder j.schoenwael

[netmod] data tree

2015-07-30 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
. I assume this is true for the data tree as well. But in the first variant above we could have (if top is a non-RPC container) top a: 1 b: 3 a: 2 while this interleaving isn't possible with the second variant. Lada -- Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID

Re: [netmod] new YANG 1.1 Issue Y61: I2RS support

2015-07-30 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
-system, and for example by default provide read-access to /system/radius/server/udp/shared-secret? /martin -- Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C ___ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman

Re: [netmod] Y34 - root node

2015-08-11 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
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Re: [netmod] new YANG 1.1 Issue Y61: I2RS support

2015-08-07 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Juergen Schoenwaelder j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de writes: On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 02:50:04PM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: If there is no ephemeral data, then config data is what counts. However, if some config parameters may be overriden by ephemeral values, then a separate

Re: [netmod] Y26 again, sorry

2015-08-15 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On 15 Aug 2015, at 01:32, heasley h...@shrubbery.net wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote: On 13 Aug 2015, at 21:31, Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote: Hi, IMO this is issue is closed. I see no reason to re-open it. YANG does not allow

Re: [netmod] Constraint on mandatory on nodes as part of augmentation in RFC6020bis

2015-08-15 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
) timothy.ca...@alcatel-lucent.com wrote: Lada, Yes sorry - I just saw that thread after I submitted mine. BR, Tim -Original Message- From: Ladislav Lhotka [mailto:lho...@nic.cz] Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 10:25 AM To: Carey, Timothy (Timothy) Cc: netmod@ietf.org Subject

Re: [netmod] Constraint on mandatory on nodes as part of augmentation in RFC6020bis

2015-08-15 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
=netmodgbt=1index=ES2ogm1wabzZVIIBlrRor0fn3rk Lada Thanks, Tim ___ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod -- Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C

[netmod] extensions and conformance

2015-08-10 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
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Re: [netmod] NETMOD WG YANG 1.1 virtual interim meetings

2015-08-10 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
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Re: [netmod] new YANG 1.1 Issue Y61: I2RS support

2015-08-06 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com writes: On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote: On 03 Aug 2015, at 18:01, Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote: On 03 Aug 2015, at 16:41, Andy

Re: [netmod] new YANG 1.1 Issue Y61: I2RS support

2015-08-06 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On 06 Aug 2015, at 17:31, Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 5:50 AM, Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote: On 06 Aug 2015, at 13:03, Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 12:43 AM, Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote: Andy

Re: [netmod] new YANG 1.1 Issue Y62: YANG should not be NETCONF-specific

2015-07-26 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
, Jul 26, 2015 at 12:46:22PM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: On 26 Jul 2015, at 02:26, Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote: Hi, The WG should decide what it means for YANG to not be NETCONF-specific. Why does YANG define extensions to NETCONF operations (like insert)? IMO the normative

[netmod] LL review of 6020bis-06

2015-07-13 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
with [default-case-stmt], and then adding default-case-stmt = default-keyword sep node-identifier stmtend -- Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C ___ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod

[netmod] example in draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-04

2015-07-14 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
to the syslogtypes:severity enumeration. Lada -- Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C ___ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod

Re: [netmod] example in draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-04

2015-07-14 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On 7/14/15, 9:03 AM, Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote: On 14 Jul 2015, at 17:25, Clyde Wildes (cwildes) cwil...@cisco.com wrote: Lada, Thanks for your review. All was not added to the syslogtypes:severity because that would alter the definition of severity as specified by RFC

Re: [netmod] ACL model problem

2015-07-16 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
is only true if lower-port exists and is less than this element.; error-message Lower-port is required, and must be less than upper-port; } } } /jan -- Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C ___ netmod mailing list

Re: [netmod] Y34

2015-07-20 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On 20 Jul 2015, at 14:45, Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote: Hi, after listening to the presentation of draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model-00 at RTGWG session, I am wondering whether the solution chosen for Y34 is really useful. The draft states they want to reuse ietf-interfaces

[netmod] Y34

2015-07-20 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
, and more complex router implementations can graft it as a subtree under routing-instance, networking-instance or whatever. Lada -- Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C ___ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman

Re: [netmod] Y34

2015-07-20 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On 20 Jul 2015, at 17:00, Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 6:08 AM, Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote: On 20 Jul 2015, at 14:55, Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote: Hi, Can you explain why we need 2 broken anyxmls? (The original

Re: [netmod] Y34

2015-07-21 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
”, e.g. in configlets. The gap in “anydata” definition for similar use cases is that it cannot specify a schema for its contents. Lada /js On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 07:42:49PM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: On 20 Jul 2015, at 19:29, Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 20

Re: [netmod] Y34

2015-07-21 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On 21 Jul 2015, at 09:44, Juergen Schoenwaelder j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 09:16:46AM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: On 20 Jul 2015, at 23:00, Juergen Schoenwaelder j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de wrote: Lada, Y34 is closed and I have

Re: [netmod] rib-data-model and routing-cfg

2015-10-21 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
on. One option would be to create two virtual interfaces - one for IPv4 VPN and another for IPv6 VPN, and define routing-instance and addresses separately for each. Lada > > r. -- Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C ___ n

Re: [netmod] Order of evaluation for when?

2015-10-23 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Why would this scenario be treated differently then if the auto-delete > happens > on a node provided in the payload? I don't advocate auto-deleting anything in payload either. Lada > > > > regards Balazs >> > > Andy > > >> >> On 2015-10-18 16:43, Ladis

Re: [netmod] Order of evaluation for when?

2015-10-23 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
t >> works (mostly) the same way on all interfaces. The more differences we have >> the less usable the product, the more difficult to implement. >> regards Balazs >> >> On 2015-10-21 15:07, Andy Bierman wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 21, 20

Re: [netmod] Order of evaluation for when?

2015-10-23 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
> On 23 Oct 2015, at 10:58, Martin Bjorklund <m...@tail-f.com> wrote: > > Ladislav Lhotka <lho...@nic.cz> wrote: >> Martin Bjorklund <m...@tail-f.com> writes: >> >>> Balazs Lengyel <balazs.leng...@ericsson.com> wrote: >>>>

Re: [netmod] Order of evaluation for when?

2015-10-23 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
> On 23 Oct 2015, at 16:02, Andy Bierman <a...@yumaworks.com> wrote: > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:58 AM, Martin Bjorklund <m...@tail-f.com> wrote: > Ladislav Lhotka <lho...@nic.cz> wrote: > > Martin Bjorklund <m...@tail-f.com> writes: >

Re: [netmod] Order of evaluation for when?

2015-10-22 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
model driven OAM is that we have one model that works > (mostly) the same way on all interfaces. The more differences we have the > less usable the product, the more difficult to implement. > regards Balazs > > On 2015-10-21 15:07, Andy Bierman wrote: >> >> >> O

Re: [netmod] Order of evaluation for when?

2015-10-26 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
an have >> ripple effects. A validate operation that changes was is being >> validated is scary. Its like pyang modifying foo.yang while parsing it >> in an attempt to finish without parsing errors... >> >> /js >> >> -- >> Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs Uni

Re: [netmod] New version of draft-wilton-netmod-intf-ext-yang-01

2015-10-27 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
> On 27 Oct 2015, at 16:12, Robert Wilton <rwil...@cisco.com> wrote: > > Hi Lada, > > Thanks for the review and comments, please see inline ... > > On 27/10/2015 13:25, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >> Hi Rob, >> >> I think both modules are useful

Re: [netmod] config lists without keys (Y09) / non-unique leaf-lists (Y57)

2015-10-29 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
s University Bremen gGmbH > Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany > Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <http://www.jacobs-university.de/> > > ___ > netmod mailing list > netm

Re: [netmod] Order of evaluation for when?

2015-10-26 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
t 03:07:41PM +0200, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > > Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> wrote: > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 10:35:48AM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > > > Martin Bjorklund <m...@tail-f.com> wr

Re: [netmod] Yang 1.0/1.1 ABNF Grammar:

2015-10-22 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
;;; feed, but excluding the other C0 control characters, the surrogate >>>>;; blocks, and the noncharacters. >>>>yang-char = %x9 / %xA / %xD / %x20-D7FF / >>> I think this would be ok. >>> >>>> 3. There are lots of comments wher

Re: [netmod] Order of evaluation for when?

2015-10-23 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
nk that defining a general datastore API as a part of YANG spec is not useful. Protocols that potentially might use YANG (gRPC, Cap'n Proto) won't be changed, so should we tell them not to use YANG? IMO YANG spec should tell what's valid and what isn't, and stop there. Lada > > > /mart

Re: [netmod] Order of evaluation for when?

2015-10-21 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
> On 21 Oct 2015, at 15:07, Andy Bierman <a...@yumaworks.com> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 5:46 AM, Ladislav Lhotka <lho...@nic.cz> wrote: > > > On 21 Oct 2015, at 14:33, Andy Bierman <a...@yumaworks.com> wrote: > > > > Hi,

Re: [netmod] JSON encoding of anyxml

2015-11-11 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
gt;> > >> > I am not in favor of anything XML or JSON specific in YANG. >> > In reality, nobody uses anyxml as a configuration data node, >> > so an improper roundtrip translation from JSON to XML >> > is not going to happen. >> > >> > Enco

Re: [netmod] JSON encoding of anyxml

2015-11-11 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Robert Varga <n...@hq.sk> writes: > On 11/05/2015 09:56 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >>> Given the resolution of Y34 in YANG 1.1, Martin's proposal to encode >>> >anyxml as a string that has XML inside makes sense. >> The possibility of sending arbitrary (n

Re: [netmod] JSON encoding of anyxml

2015-11-11 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
> On 11 Nov 2015, at 13:26, Juergen Schoenwaelder > <j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 11:54:58AM +0100, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >> >>> On 11 Nov 2015, at 09:07, Juergen Schoenwaelder >>> <j.schoenwael...@jaco

Re: [netmod] JSON encoding of anyxml

2015-11-11 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
> On 11 Nov 2015, at 14:44, Juergen Schoenwaelder > <j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 02:24:15PM +0100, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >> >>> >>> I wrote 'effectively deprecated' and here is the text in 6020bis

Re: [netmod] Modelling ports that can support multiple physical layer standards

2015-11-11 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
gt; The nice thing about this approach is that it models the port in a way >> that is close to how it actually _is_. Each port needs only a single >> interface that's directly associated with the handshake mechanism and >> the supported physical layer standards. >> >> A possible disadvantage of this approach is that it is a bit less well >> aligned with RFC 7223, e.g there is only one interface-level >> enable/disable that has to be "shared" by color-selector, green and red. >> >> >> ___ >> netmod mailing list >> netmod@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod > > ___ > netmod mailing list > netmod@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod -- Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C ___ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod

Re: [netmod] JSON encoding of anyxml

2015-11-11 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Randy Presuhn <randy_pres...@mindspring.com> writes: > Hi - > >>From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> >>Sent: Nov 11, 2015 5:44 AM >>To: Ladislav Lhotka <lho...@nic.cz> >>Cc: netmod@ietf.org >>Subject: Re:

Re: [netmod] JSON encoding of anyxml

2015-11-14 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
> On 13 Nov 2015, at 19:19, Andy Bierman <a...@yumaworks.com> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Juergen Schoenwaelder > <j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 08:10:51AM +0100, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > &

Re: [netmod] JSON encoding of anyxml

2015-11-16 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
> On 16 Nov 2015, at 14:40, Juergen Schoenwaelder > <j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 01:09:20PM +0100, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >> >>> On 16 Nov 2015, at 12:55, Juergen Schoenwaelder >>> <j.schoenwael...@jaco

Re: [netmod] JSON encoding of anyxml

2015-11-17 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
gt; >> >> /js >> >> Andy >> >> >> -- >> Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH >> Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany >> Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <http://www.j

Re: [netmod] yang 1.1 last call comment resolution

2015-11-09 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
ged by mistake). Lada > > > > > > /martin >> >> > > Andy > > >> ___ >> netmod mailing list >> netmod@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod >> > ___ > netmod mailing list > netmod@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod -- Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C ___ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod

Re: [netmod] review of draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6020bis-08.txt

2015-11-01 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
g simple. In the example in Y13, the identityref could be type identityref { base share-alike; base non-commercial; } and then the only permitted value would be CC-BY-NC-SA. ... > >> Sec. 10.3.1. deref() >> >> - why is this XPath function needed? >>No use-cases are explained. >>The example given shows that deref(.) saves some extra typing >>from the previous line. Not very interesting new feature. > > If the node is an instance-identifier, it is not possible to check the > target node w/o deref(). Right, and evaluate() function in EXSLT does the same thing: http://exslt.org/dyn/functions/evaluate/index.html Maybe we could reuse its definition. ... Lada -- Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C ___ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod

Re: [netmod] if-feature and default

2015-11-01 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
> On 02 Nov 2015, at 09:40, Andy Bierman <a...@yumaworks.com> wrote: > > > > On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Ladislav Lhotka <lho...@nic.cz> wrote: > > > On 02 Nov 2015, at 02:16, Andy Bierman <a...@yumaworks.com> wrote: > > > >

Re: [netmod] if-feature and default

2015-11-01 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Lada > > (BTW, customers have asked for (B), so it may be a feature and a bugfix) > > > Andy > > > > _______ > netmod mailing list > netmod@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod -- Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs PGP

Re: [netmod] New version of draft-wilton-netmod-intf-ext-yang-01

2015-10-30 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
> On 30 Oct 2015, at 20:37, Martin Bjorklund <m...@tail-f.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > Ladislav Lhotka <lho...@nic.cz> wrote: >> Moreover - and this might actually be a flaw in 6020bis - it is >> not allowed to update the "when" statement

Re: [netmod] config lists without keys (Y09) / non-unique leaf-lists (Y57)

2015-11-01 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH >> Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany >> Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <http://www.jacobs-university.de/> >> >> ___ >> netmod maili

[netmod] JSON encoding of anyxml

2015-11-04 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
ode are required to be modellable in YANG. BTW, it seems that yang-patch needs to be able to transfer anyxml instances, so is it really possible to exclude anyxml from anydata content? Lada -- Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C _

Re: [netmod] general permission on metadata

2015-11-04 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Andy Bierman <a...@yumaworks.com> writes: > On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Randy Presuhn <randy_pres...@mindspring.com> > wrote: > >> Hi - >> >> >From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> >> >Sent: Nov 3, 20

Re: [netmod] JSON encoding of anyxml

2015-11-05 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
ess something else is available. Sending XML documents as strings is still possible although IMO next to useless. Lada > > /js > > On Thu, Nov 05, 2015 at 02:54:56PM +0900, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >> Hi, >> >> at the NETMOD session Martin proposed that JSON enc

[netmod] general permission on metadata

2015-11-03 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
. Parsers of YANG data (in whatever encoding) then MUST be prepared to receive such annotations (and perhaps ignore them). I don't think such a statement is encoding-specific. Lada -- Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C ___ netmod mailing

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-02 (until 2015-10-22)

2015-10-19 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> writes: > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 09:52:00AM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > [...] > >> The "schema" part addresses syntactic changes in protocol messages, >> which are inevitable, and the s

Re: [netmod] Fwd: Re: Order of evaluation for when?

2015-10-19 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Xiang Li <xian...@seguesoft.com> writes: > On 10/18/2015 8:31 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >> Xiang Li <xian...@seguesoft.com> writes: >> >>> On 10/16/2015 6:05 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >>>>> On 16 Oct 2015, at 12:27, Balazs Lengyel <balaz

Re: [netmod] rib-data-model and routing-cfg

2015-10-15 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
+--rw description? string "Acee Lindem (acee)" <a...@cisco.com> writes: > On 10/13/15, 12:30 PM, "Ladislav Lhotka" <lho...@nic.cz> wrote: > >> >>> On 13 Oct 2015, at 17:20, Acee Lindem (acee) <a...@cisco.com> wrote: >>&g

Re: [netmod] 6020bis - sec. 5.6.4 comments

2015-10-15 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
> On 14 Oct 2015, at 19:28, Martin Bjorklund <m...@tail-f.com> wrote: > > Ladislav Lhotka <lho...@nic.cz> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> regarding $subj: >> >> - What about extensions? Do modules defining them have to be >> implemented? That is,

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