Re: Google Summer of Code Roundup

2009-09-16 Thread Paul Sprangers
Dear John-Mark, Rob and other developers, From recent mails I understood that the RISC OS frontend of NetSurf may eventually be dropped, since it's lack of maintenance is obstructing the development of the core code. This may sound reasonable, but somehow I don't fully understand things. Apart

Re: Google Summer of Code Roundup

2009-09-16 Thread David Pitt
Paul Sprangers p...@sprie.nl wrote: From recent mails I understood that the RISC OS frontend of NetSurf may eventually be dropped, since it's lack of maintenance is obstructing the development of the core code. This may sound reasonable, but somehow I don't fully understand things. Apart

Re: Google Summer of Code Roundup

2009-09-16 Thread Paul Sprangers
David Pitt pit...@pittdj.co.uk wrote: The flaw in this is that none of the current NetSurf developers are RISC OS programmers, they may not even be RISC OS users. That really surprises me. I always thought that John-Mark c.s. were genuine RISC OS users. Apparently, the assumption that

Re: Google Summer of Code Roundup

2009-09-16 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:09:09 +0200 Paul Sprangers p...@sprie.nl wrote: I therefore suspect that the main reason for such development is the joy of programming. If that is true, why not maintain the RISC OS front end your self? It will at least guarantee quite a number of very grateful users,

Re: Google Summer of Code Roundup

2009-09-16 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:16:10 +0200 Paul Sprangers p...@sprie.nl wrote: David Pitt pit...@pittdj.co.uk wrote: The flaw in this is that none of the current NetSurf developers are RISC OS programmers, they may not even be RISC OS users. That really surprises me. I always thought that

Re: Google Summer of Code Roundup

2009-09-16 Thread Amin Kharchi
Hello! On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:37:41 +0100, Rob Kendrick r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: That really surprises me. I always thought that John-Mark c.s. were genuine RISC OS users. Apparently, the assumption that contribution to a RISC OS mailing list implies RISC OS usership, is indicating a

Re: Google Summer of Code Roundup

2009-09-16 Thread John-Mark Bell
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 12:51 +0200, Amin Kharchi wrote: Hello! On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:37:41 +0100, Rob Kendrick r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: That really surprises me. I always thought that John-Mark c.s. were genuine RISC OS users. Apparently, the assumption that contribution to a

Re: Google Summer of Code Roundup

2009-09-16 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:51:32 +0200 Amin Kharchi amin@kharchi.eu wrote: On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:37:41 +0100, Rob Kendrick r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: That really surprises me. I always thought that John-Mark c.s. were genuine RISC OS users. Apparently, the assumption that

Re: Google Summer of Code Roundup

2009-09-16 Thread John-Mark Bell
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 13:39 +0100, A W wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:53 PM, John-Mark Bell j...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: Future major changes to the way in which the core works are liable to require corresponding changes in platform frontends. If any given frontend has no

Re: Google Summer of Code Roundup

2009-09-16 Thread David J. Ruck
Rob Kendrick wrote: On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:39:47 +0100 A W aw29...@gmail.com wrote: Can you not just take some time out and modify the RO front end? Can't you? Personally, I don't have the will power. Perhaps you should just stick to working on drippingsarcasm.lib.so :-) -- David J. Ruck

Re: Google Summer of Code Roundup

2009-09-16 Thread Tim Hill
In article 4c6a9b0d0909160539q561ea62aj8996cbfdc7813...@mail.gmail.com, A W aw29...@gmail.com wrote: [Snip] Can you not just take some time out and modify the RO front end? I know the answer is going to be: If insert name has the time and enthusiasm, why doesn't insert name do the job?

Re: Google Summer of Code Roundup

2009-09-16 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:58:23 +0100 Tim Hill t...@timil.com wrote: In the meantime, continued begging at the feet of the developers is unlikely to bear fruit. They have moved on. Though why onto other platforms replete with more capable browsers may remain a mystery to some of us. ;-) Writing

Re: Google Summer of Code Roundup

2009-09-16 Thread dave higton
Quoting Tim Hill t...@timil.com: Personally, the only way I could do it would be to learn the rest of 'C' first and then get stuck in to the probable hours, days, weeks, months necessary. I and others need to eat, pay bills and have a roof above. I think the idea is to work on NetSurf instead

Re: Google Summer of Code Roundup

2009-09-16 Thread dave higton
Quoting John-Mark Bell j...@netsurf-browser.org: Frankly, we'd take anything we get right now. Contrary to popular belief, we have no desire to ditch the RISC OS frontend out of hand. Additionally, we have a great deal of experience in introducing new developers to our codebase and ways of

Re: Google Summer of Code Roundup

2009-09-16 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 15:04:42 +0100 dave higton davehig...@dsl.pipex.com wrote: So why don't I work on NetSurf? Well, I've looked at a couple of major projects in C written by other people. I eventually took fright after failing to make head or tail of them. (If C isn't written following

Re: Google Summer of Code Roundup

2009-09-16 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 15:09:36 +0100 dave higton davehig...@dsl.pipex.com wrote: Quoting John-Mark Bell j...@netsurf-browser.org: Frankly, we'd take anything we get right now. Contrary to popular belief, we have no desire to ditch the RISC OS frontend out of hand. Additionally, we have a

Re: Google Summer of Code Roundup

2009-09-16 Thread Chris Young
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:16:10 +0200, Paul Sprangers wibbled on for an age: David Pitt pit...@pittdj.co.uk wrote: The flaw in this is that none of the current NetSurf developers are RISC OS programmers, they may not even be RISC OS users. That really surprises me. I always thought that

Re: Google Summer of Code Roundup

2009-09-16 Thread aw29009
In message 1253105573.5804.236.ca...@duiker John-Mark Bell j...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: Future major changes to the way in which the core works are liable to require corresponding changes in platform frontends. If any given frontend has no maintainer, then the chances of the

Re: Google Summer of Code Roundup

2009-09-16 Thread Steve Fryatt
On 16 Sep, Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote in message mpro.kq2r4w0002fm5005w@powys.org: On 16 Sep at 14:58, Tim Hill t...@timil.com wrote: Are there 500 user of the RISC OS version of NetSurf willing to donate £4 a month to support a developer? www.pledgebank.com/netsurf4riscos Anyhow I

Re: Google Summer of Code Roundup

2009-09-16 Thread Steve Fryatt
On 16 Sep, Rob Kendrick wrote in message 20090916125441.08b4b...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net: On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:51:32 +0200 Amin Kharchi amin@kharchi.eu wrote: It would be fair for any RISC OS user if the homepage says the truth: RISC OS has no priority! Its only the rest.

Re: Google Summer of Code Roundup

2009-09-16 Thread Steve Fryatt
On 17 Sep, aw29...@gmail.com wrote in message 512be99b50.and...@no.reply: In message 1253105573.5804.236.ca...@duiker John-Mark Bell j...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: Future major changes to the way in which the core works are liable to require corresponding changes in platform