"Oh Lord" after VW its Porsche

"Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz ? My friends all drive Porsches, now they must make amends." Janis Joplin (modified) You must see this Porsche Cayenne commercial from 2007: https://vimeo.com/1713136 http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/nov/02/vw-emissions-scan

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On Sep 25, 2015, at 2:01 PM, t byfield <[1]tbyfi...@panix.com> wrote: So, right there, VW diesel owners have a pretty ironclad case for what boils down to speculative financial compensation: the difference between what the cars 'would have been worth' if thi

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> Am 27.09.15 um 23:09 schrieb Florian Cramer: > > There are other aspects in German media theory, cultural studies and > humanities academia that I find by far more objectionable. For example, > how the more or less biggest names of German media theory and cultural > studies - Friedrich

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Dear Florian, if this is your biggest concern, than you should at least mention that a large section of so called âcritical net culturesâ in Europe has been close to Burda Foundation since a long time: [1]http://www.akademie3000.de/content/mitglieder/start.htm

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point, on private economic activity. I don't know enough about the VW / Lower Saxony model to say much about it, but it's probably better than the dominant model we have in the US. More generally, mechanistic ideas about how 'money buys influence' do too much violence to the mercurial

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Am 03.10.2015 um 21:07 schrieb Florian Cramer : If you carefully read my points here on Nettime, then it shouldn't have escaped you that I defended this funding (against Ted) and actually consider it a good case of repurposing company profits for

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Am 25/09/15 um 21:01 schrieb t byfield: > A few thoughts about the VW scandal > > The VW scandal may not seem very nettimish, but I'll argue that it is. > This'll take a while, because it is, as they say now, #epic. If you're > interested, read on. I completely agree but f

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hmarks as a more illuminating example? I don't think so. Relying on open-source metaphor-mantras ('Would you buy a car with the hood welded shut?') to analyze peculiar dynamics of the car industry is like relying on Godwin's Law to understand neo-nazis. :^) My point isn't that VW -- or Fukushima or

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othing to be learned > there' either? *And* hold hold up Android's OEMs cheating on > benchmarks as a more illuminating example? I don't think so. I believe that in 2015 and on top of all the literature we have been imbued there is no point for us to engage blaming VW as the evil manufacturer,

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etimes ethical sometimes less so) to pursue their own private interests--and we would not expect anything else. In fact under certain jurisdictions they are legally obliged to act in this way. Why VW is pertinent is because it shows the depths to which a major corporation will go in pursuit of

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Am 27.09.15 um 23:09 schrieb Florian Cramer: WWII. As far as I know, all profits that the state of Lower Saxony makes from its remaining 20% share go into the endowment. And, Leuphana is a state university of Lower Saxony. (marginalia) folks, i think this is besides the point,

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a fwd. from the rethink uva list (university of amsterdam) /geert From: "Engelen, Ewald" <e.r.enge...@uva.nl> Subject: Re: [Rethink UvA] We can't let VW get away with this Date: 28 September 2015 7:44:04 am GMT+2 Volkswagen is also an aggressive tax evader, u

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Hi, Â well said: What VW tells us (and why "motivation" is worth looking at) is that when push comes to shove we really really need some structures of accountability that are responsive to "our", the public's needs and not the shareholders and that

VW

"Bad employees come up with problems - or excuses; good employees come up with solutions" (New Management mantra) Mething Michael was right with asking the question about the internal workings that made the VW clusterf%$#&^*k 'happen'. And I also think it has to be analyse

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s to privatizing profit, but when it comes to liabilities they're become treated as amorphous, networky constructs, and punishing them becomes an exercise in trying to catch smoke with your hands. Imagine for a moment that by some improbable chain of events VW ended up facing a 'corpora

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("they are people too aren't they"), or we can trust them much more than those perfidious folks in government, or they are "accountable" to their shareholders and wouldn't do anything completely untoward to risk shareholder value etc.etc. (you know the drill... But if VW can and will

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This is the way the industry always works when closed-source. This event should remind everyone (and especially consumer associations) how important is to have the industry release its software open-source, down to the firmware and hardware. This must be an imperative especially for But of

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It'll be very interesting indeed to hear what the stars of ~German media theory have to say about this. Maybe about as much as most US academics have to say about their role in imposing indentured servitude on subsequent generations... The German state of Lower Saxony owns

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Thanks Ted, very useful. I guess what I'm curious about is the motivations, individual and/or corporate thought processes/incentives etc. that underlie the initial decision to go down this path and then the multitude of decisions at various levels up and down the organization to continue on this

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I'd be curious to hear from people who have a more proximate sense of how this is playing out in Germany, and how the government seems like it'll respond. The implication for "our" field are much more immediate than one would expect, given that the Centre of Digital Cultures

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A few thoughts about the VW scandal The VW scandal may not seem very nettimish, but I'll argue that it is. This'll take a while, because it is, as they say now, #epic. If you're interested, read on. Cheers, T There are a few 'immaterial' sectors we're used to thinking of as somehow

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screw you, and no amount of regulations can change that. Anything with software is especially insidious in this sense, as for most users it is impossible to fully grasp it. The upside is that this enables multiple centers of power (from startups to VW), so in a way we are entering the age of