Hey everyone, just figured I would share my recent findings regarding
an air leak so hopefully it will help someone else resolve the problem
faster.
My bike is an 83 NH650. It's been losing power at higher speeds,
especially when it's windy/gusty out. It pretty much forces me to
draft a truck
*Can someone explain to me why KN air filters are so expensive? What about
the filter justifies the added expense?*
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100 cc??? little small for any nighthawk iver seen... but its got the right
style! i shal call it the baby hawk!
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Eric Jenkins eric.jenk...@gmail.comwrote:
I am in Turkey and visited a place called Cappadocia yesterday. I saw a
bike that looked alot like the
I think the KN are reusable, and the others are not.
I think.
Javier.
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Paul p...@hondanighthawks.net wrote:
*Can someone explain to me why KN air filters are so expensive? What
about the filter justifies the added expense?*
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It has pretty confortable pegs for the passenger.
Javier.
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Eric Jenkins eric.jenk...@gmail.comwrote:
I am in Turkey and visited a place called Cappadocia yesterday. I saw a
bike that looked alot like the nighthawk, maybe a copycat so I snapped a
pic. Enjoy!
Although the German in me prefers a good German beer, the Jew in me favors
wine;
and of course, the native American in me does like the Firewater, only in the
form of brandy instead of gin or whiskey...
Gotta tell you this story - my first and regrettabyly second-to-last last time
getting sick
I've got an inline filter on mine that's great. I'll see if I can fingure out
who made it. It's plastic with a gold metal filter that's cone shaped. It
barely fits in behind the carbs but it works fine.
--- On Fri, 3/18/11, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com
Javier is correct - KN's are washable and can be re-coated with their
'Filter Fluid' - they also provide more flow without losing filtration than
a stock filter (usually a good thing but not for lean jetted Hondas!) I run
one on my car and got about two more miles to the gallon because it uncorked
*Actually a company called UNI also makes a reusable air
I think there is a lot of name building up the price. I have seen KN oil
filters for about $17, while a generic brand may cost $5. That is more than
twice the price. Can you really tell if the KN is filtering twice as better
as the generic brand?
Javier.
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Paul
what's their filter fluid? Something like whatt we have in the
garage like WD40 or 30W engine oil? Graham
On Mar 18, 2011, at 10:52 AM, Joey Kelley wrote:
Javier is correct - KN's are washable and can be re-coated with
their 'Filter Fluid' - they also provide more flow without losing
Graham,
It more resembles Marvel Mystery Oil - its red in color - a very
light oil - it is lighter than transmission fluid but a similar color.
As to 'how can you tell its better' - I don't know - I assume you
can flow test it on a bench - but I can confirm that I did get more
*I've never purchased a KN filter before. Does it come with the fluid/oil
for the filter?*
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On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com wrote:
Graham,
It more resembles Marvel Mystery Oil - its red in color - a very
light oil - it is lighter than
Paul,
Usually they come pre-oiled - but they recommend that you wash and
re-oil them after a certain number of miles.
-Joey
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Paul p...@hondanighthawks.net wrote:
*I've never purchased a KN filter before. Does it come with the fluid/oil
for the
the one i just got was not preoiled. it took 5 minutes to install and now my
bike runs much better. more hp and its low idle was mitigated as well. i
think a dirty filter was the cause of a number of my issues. the oem one was
dirty as hell.
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Joey Kelley
It is something like transmission fluid or Marvel Mystery oil. Because it
allows more air to pass through you experience an increase in air flow; and
because it can be cleaned and re - oiled, it saves money; however, I don't
consider that it's as through as Amsoil's counterpart, which is made
*Hmmm. JC Whitney sells a UNI foam filter for $9.99 and if I bought the KN
air filter oil (aerosol can) for $8.18 I would be in it for a lot less than
an actual KN filter. I wonder*
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On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Eric Jenkins eric.jenk...@gmail.comwrote:
the one i just got was
*Scratch that! When I input my exact model and year in the JC Whitney site
the price went to $22.99. Poop!*
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On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Paul p...@hondanighthawks.net wrote:
*Hmmm. JC Whitney sells a UNI foam filter for $9.99 and if I bought the
KN air filter oil (aerosol can)
For that matter, you could just buy the foam filter and add a
little MarvelMystery Oil at two or three bucks a can and have oil left over to
clean repeatedly and use for other applications, like lubrication of squeaky
doors, lawn mower wheels, etc. Or add the can to the crankcase to clean
Because I don't have a visual and only had a 550 Four waay back in '70, I am
making a shot in the dark: why not add some extra fuel line at the petcock and
insert a filter?
Stanley
From: Kim Paddock kimpadd...@ymail.com
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Pegs? More like a dance floor for the passenger! Saturday night fever!
-Kurt
On Mar 18, 2011 10:32 AM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote:
It has pretty confortable pegs for the passenger.
Javier.
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Eric Jenkins eric.jenk...@gmail.com
wrote:
I am in
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*Well, here's what I've learned about **buying **KN filters. There are
PLENTY of places that offer discounts on KN's price, but ALL of them (that
I have found so far) also tack on a fairly hefty shipping charge which ends
up negating the cost savings.*
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*KN, on the other hand, ships for
My UNI filter seems to be of quality construction, personally speaking.
On Mar 18, 2011 2:01 PM, Paul p...@hondanighthawks.net wrote:
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*Well, here's what I've learned about **buying **KN filters. There are
PLENTY of places that offer discounts on KN's price, but ALL of them (that
I have
Paul, I think you have the tendency of creating oil-like thread I don't
its is the thread itself, it is you!
;-)
Javier.
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Paul p...@hondanighthawks.net wrote:
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*Well, here's what I've learned about **buying **KN filters. There are
PLENTY of places that
Did you try Amazon? Some offer free shipping there.
Stanley
From: Paul p...@hondanighthawks.net
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, March 18, 2011 1:00:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] KN filters
Well, here's what I've learned about
Hey Joey, I know this is far away but just for you to know what kind of
deals are around:
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/mcy/2272255488.html
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com wrote:
Get Gene some bragging rights for his quick Googling :-)
-Joey I'm
Personally, I don't feel it is oil like; I am learning of another alternative
to KN, which company has become quite proud of their pleated, gauze - and -
chicken wire, oil impregnated filter.
There is another company selling the same but I don't remember the name, since
it's not readily
There's not a whole lot of space in that area plus it's pretty tight, so
you'd have to be careful of not making it kink. I've tried a filter with the
90degree input that help, but it was plastic so it deformed over a few
months, plus it was 1/4. Just about every motorcycle shop I've gone into
has
*Actually Joey the stators were not questionable. The issue had to do with a
faulty main wiring harness that overheated. The stator failure results from
the wiring. *
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On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com wrote:
Javier,
Thanks - just an FYI - 1984 was
I have a Uni and it works great. +1
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Its a sticky gunk mixes with a solvent that evaporates away.
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Uni sells a recharge kit too. Like I said their oil is a sticky substance
more than an oil I would get that rather than the KN. Since the uni is foam
based rather than cloth.
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I'll chime in on this one.
One of the main things that KN and [presumably] Amsoil is the *way* they
filter the air.* While it might seem counter-productive, the holes that
allow air to pass through the element are actually *larger* than the holes
in cheap paper air filters. Because the element is
Good pics, Allen.
Did your installation require the use of spacers on all 4 mounting
points and longer bolts on the shock mount? I'm thinking longer bolts
won't be a problem and maybe we can use multiple washers as spacers.
The rack we're talking about is not Hondaline, but a very close after
I don't know about the difference in hardware as my bike came with the rack
installed. Mine doesn't use washers though.
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From: surfswab surfs...@gmail.com
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Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 17:24:55
To: Nighthawk
Paul,
From past discussions here, the consensus is that KN is too efficient
for Nighthawks, allowing more air volume to flow, therefore upsetting
the already too lean OEM fuel-to-air ratio.
That would require fiddly adjustment/modification of the carbs to
richen the mixture. More air = need for
That would be me. It was a spin on the dixie cup idea from Dennis H. In the
end I went with new jets.
-Kyle
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 8:20 PM, surfswab surfs...@gmail.com wrote:
Paul,
From past discussions here, the consensus is that KN is too efficient
for Nighthawks, allowing more air
so I can't just spray WD-40 on it or soak it in 30W oild?
On Mar 18, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Allen Thomas wrote:
Uni sells a recharge kit too. Like I said their oil is a sticky
substance more than an oil I would get that rather than the KN.
Since the uni is foam based rather than cloth.
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