I agree with Elliot,
We haven't been in the drop zone - we're a win off 14th on goal difference
(y'day we were a win off 11th!!). The three teams below don't look like
getting above us. Wigan a point v Chelsea! Only cos Chelsea gave it to them.
It looked like Wolves of 5 years ago defending in
Did anyone see Hull's first goal against Millwall? That's my nomination for
horror defensive effort/own goal of the decade :-)
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From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 2:15 PM
To:
Agreed. If I had such unrealistic expectations of my team, I think I'd
find another hobby rather than be so miserable.
The upsetting thing with turn-crowe-t is that he used to be one of us. Boo!
On 18 December 2011 17:24, elliotd...@hotmail.com elliotd...@hotmail.comwrote:
Well said
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Apparrantly the fans left him alone this week.
My season ticket holding mate seems to think many fans are resigned to
the fact that his job is safe, but that can change very quickly.
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From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On
Spoke to me Dad last night, who is a season ticket holder in the Steve Bull,
apparently Tuesday night against Norwich could be the last chance saloon
game for MM. He reckons another loss would see the fans turn against him on
mass!
Paul Crowe
Sales Manager - Asia Pacific
ConTech (Sydney
Guess what Paul,
It won't happen.
Y!MMMFL
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From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Paul Crowe
Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 9:05 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Anyone watching? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
Anyone read Soccernomics? I've read extracts but I've just ordered it.
The author says that 90% of Premier league position is down to wages.
I really don't understand why Mick is the scapegoat. He has the fourth
cheapest wage bill and the team is fourth from bottom.
If the fans really cared
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To be fair, Steve Morgan needs to address the situation too.
Wolves perfromances on the pitch have shown little or no improvement,
the manager has to be responsible for that.
The big fear for me is, we change managers and still get relegated, and
so it all starts again.
How can I explain this more clearly.
90% of the results are down to the quality of players
We have the fourth worst players in the league.
We have no right to finish above where we currently sit
If we look bad in matches it's because we are playing against better players
Why do you keep saying
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Well in my opinion, Mick's team isn't good enough. Mick's tactics aren't
good enough. I and I think many many others think Mick is out of his
depth in the PL.
Who knows, our squad may be capable of much more under a better manager.
Its also possible that Mick has got this bunch
Well said Sarge
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On 19/12/2011, at 10:00 AM, Steven Millward millward@gmail.com wrote:
How can I explain this more clearly.
90% of the results are down to the quality of players
We have the fourth worst players in the league.
We have no right to finish above where
So we're agreed that the team isn't good enough, but given the club's wage
policy it's not Mick's fault. I'm sure you'll agree that we are where we
should expect to be in the league?
Given that player quality accounts for 90% of final league position, with
the remaining 10% being down to luck,
Just seeing of I can post again after my recent ban
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Before printing,
Lies, damned lies and statistics, inshallah, Nihilism.
it, I'm going for a drink instead.
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 10:01 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Anyone
Why were you bannned Matthew ?
Did you dare to ask for the head of MM
Has anybody else heard the rumour
That Mark Hughes was at the Stoke
game ???
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Boo! Thick Mick Out.
I spoke to my mate last night in Penn he heard Hughes was there.
Well just have to wait and see.
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On 19/12/2011, at 11:05 AM, Steven Millward millward@gmail.com wrote:
He dared to make a positive comment about Wolves and the filter kicked him
out. I've hacked it.
The conspiracy theorist in me thought my 'ban' was down to my movement away
from the pro-Mick camp but then realised if that were the case the list would
have 2 active posters. Gave it some more (reasoned) thought and worked out it
was probably down to the fact our email addresses have just
I have to confess I get frustrated by the apparent lack of logic that's
applied to football support. There are many people on here have excellent
analytical abilities and yet it gets unused in the face of what seems more
like superstition and knee jerk emotion. Rog for example applies a great
I would contend that you have no idea what your talking about!
We have all played football at various levels and know how it should be played.
Wolves are not playing or trying to play good football, end of. MM out!
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From: Steven
Mick took on the role knowing what resources were available and what
(unrealistically) high expectations there are the club. He didn't have to take
the job and if he didn't think we could compete in the premier league he
shouldn't have got us promoted.
Out of interest, anyone know what the
Utter rubbish
On 19 December 2011 11:55, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:
Mick took on the role knowing what resources were available and what
(unrealistically) high expectations there are the club. He didn't have to
take the job and if he didn't think we could compete in the
I'm also intrigued by the notion that managers have little impact on league
position. A couple of recent examples would be Redknapp at Spurs and Dalglish
at Liverpool who both took over teams that were around the relegation places
and with the same squad as their pre-decessors had them finish
So Doyle isn't in a poor run of form... He's just $hite. Now I understand.
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On 19/12/2011, at 11:45 AM, LEESE Matthew matthew.le...@rms.nsw.gov.au wrote:
I'm intrigued by player form having been proven to not exist. I felt I've had
some periods of form over the years
What? The wages of Swansea and Norwich are rubbish but they're still above us.
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On 19/12/2011, at 11:57 AM, Steven Millward millward@gmail.com wrote:
Utter rubbish
On 19 December 2011 11:55, Marcus Chantry chant...@iinet.net.au wrote:
Mick took on the role knowing
http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2009/12/16/fact-or-fiction-myths-in-football/
I've seen this before but I can't find the other links. I believe it
applies to other sports too such as basketball in the US.
Humans look for patterns and tend to see what they want to see. You would
most likely
It's short term noise. You could have said the same about Blackpool last
season and Burley the season before that. There is always variation. If
it were a perfect science then it would be entirely predictable.
Swansea and Norwich might finish where they are now but they are the
exceptions that
Here's another interesting one:
http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2010/05/04/pulis-and-mcclaren-are-the-most-over-achieving-managers-in-english-football-040501/
Over performing managers relative to the wages of their clubs up to 2008.
These are the men who had the right stuff. They had
Hold the front page. What a scoop!
On 19 December 2011 11:09, Paul Hart wholiga...@gmail.com wrote:
I spoke to my mate last night in Penn he heard Hughes was there.
Well just have to wait and see.
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On 19/12/2011, at 11:05 AM, Steven Millward millward@gmail.com
Hughes's Granny would be better than MM!
Maybe we should just enlist a local Gypsy as replacement for MM, as our
teams performance depends on luck and other dubiously explained factors,
nothing at all to do with the Manager and his coaching skills?
Paul Crowe
Sales Manager - Asia Pacific
Get Freddy back.
Not dubiously explained factors. Just quality of players being the main
factor.
On 19 December 2011 15:03, Paul Crowe pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote:
Hughes’s Granny would be better than MM!
** **
Maybe we should just enlist a local Gypsy as replacement for MM,
And who chose the players? And you reckon Mick has eff all to do with our
performances.
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On 19/12/2011, at 15:06, Steven Millward millward@gmail.com wrote:
Get Freddy back.
Not dubiously explained factors. Just quality of players being the main
factor.
On 19
He chooses the players.
Players and agents know their value and managers know how good players are
and bid what they think a player is worth, both in transfer values and
personal wages for the player. It's almost a perfect expression of
capitalism.
Therefore if you have more more money to spend
You'll have the new age plod on your case Paul for calling numerology
dubiously explained factors.
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Paul Crowe
Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 3:03 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Welcome
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