[NTG-context] Which version to use for MathML?
Hi all, I tried a few mathml examples with 2012.05.30 and the latest beta (test script attached). The 20120530 version fails with eqn1, which uses presentation mathml, but works with eqn using content mathml. The latest beta generates doesn't work with either equations. I see a lot of mathml related changes recently, with the file x-mathml.mkiv come and go away. Which version should I go with to get presentation mathml work? thanks and regards, shenchen ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 'kern': TrueType table and GPOS lookup feature
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > > On Sat, 1 Dec 2012, luigi scarso wrote: > >> On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, 1 Dec 2012, luigi scarso wrote: >>> > 5) Generally it would be good to dilineate what should be done as root, > and where normal user stuff starts. Hm, to be root is not required -- have you found some problem ? >>> >>> >>> >>> Usually, normal users do not have write permissions in /opt directory. >> >> If we follow strict rules, "normal" user should not install the >> latest context -- only the admin. > > > And hence Steve's remark that the installation instruction should > differentiate between what needs to be dun as root and what as normal user > (the user run context --make needs to have write permission in TEXMFCACHE). A normal user cannot even download first-setup.sh and install the files. But if he can then he can install context under his home and mkiv works ok -- no need to be root. This can be useful in a server that run context as service -- create a user that manage the context, a common pattern (apache, mysql, postgres, etc). About /opt , it's a location for add-on, and it's usually unused by standard distro (so one leaves the machine clean.): see http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#OPTADDONAPPLICATIONSOFTWAREPACKAGES In this situation the choice between homedir and /opt is of course a personal taste, and I prefer to install general applications (or applications that can be of general utility) under /opt . -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 'kern': TrueType table and GPOS lookup feature
On Sat, 1 Dec 2012, luigi scarso wrote: On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Sat, 1 Dec 2012, luigi scarso wrote: 5) Generally it would be good to dilineate what should be done as root, and where normal user stuff starts. Hm, to be root is not required -- have you found some problem ? Usually, normal users do not have write permissions in /opt directory. If we follow strict rules, "normal" user should not install the latest context -- only the admin. And hence Steve's remark that the installation instruction should differentiate between what needs to be dun as root and what as normal user (the user run context --make needs to have write permission in TEXMFCACHE). Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 'kern': TrueType table and GPOS lookup feature
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > On Sat, 1 Dec 2012, luigi scarso wrote: > >>> 5) Generally it would be good to dilineate what should be done as root, >>> and where normal user stuff starts. >> >> Hm, to be root is not required -- have you found some problem ? > > > Usually, normal users do not have write permissions in /opt directory. If we follow strict rules, "normal" user should not install the latest context -- only the admin. -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 'kern': TrueType table and GPOS lookup feature
On Sat, 1 Dec 2012, luigi scarso wrote: 5) Generally it would be good to dilineate what should be done as root, and where normal user stuff starts. Hm, to be root is not required -- have you found some problem ? Usually, normal users do not have write permissions in /opt directory. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 'kern': TrueType table and GPOS lookup feature
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Steve White wrote: > Hi Luigi, > > I got ConTeXt installed and running, but the install was very choppy. > > FYI the script you gave me had several problems, which I'll detail here. > > 1) Throughout you want >freefont-ttf-20120503 > rather than >freefont-src-20120503 yes, sorry (btw It would be nice to support the sfd format ...) > > 2) This line has a stray backslash character >bash /first-setup.sh --modules=simplefonts yes again sorry -- bash first-setup.sh --modules=simplefonts or bash ./first-setup.sh --modules=simplefonts > > 3) The command > mtxrun --script font --reload > searches a bunch of directories for fonts, but not the directory > texmf-project/fonts/ > My work-around was just to copy the *.ttf files to > texmf-fonts/ > and then re-do the mtxrun line. Hm, no, this is strange --- are you sure ? If I remove the files from texmf-project/fonts/ and make mtxrun --script font --reload I have mtxrun --script font --list --all|grep Free But when I copy them again in texmf-project/fonts/ and mtxrun --script font --reload then mtxrun --script font --list --all|grep Free then I see freemono freemono FreeMono.ttf freemonobold freemonobold FreeMonoBold.ttf freemonoboldoblique freemonoboldoblique FreeMonoBoldOblique.ttf freemononormal freemonooblique FreeMonoOblique.ttf freemonooblique freemonooblique FreeMonoOblique.ttf freesans freesans FreeSans.ttf freesansbold freesansbold FreeSansBold.ttf freesansboldoblique freesansboldoblique FreeSansBoldOblique.ttf freesansdemi freesansbold FreeSansBold.ttf freesansnormal freesansoblique FreeSansOblique.ttf freesansoblique freesansoblique FreeSansOblique.ttf freeseriffreeserif FreeSerif.ttf freeserifboldfreeserifbold FreeSerifBold.ttf freeserifbolditalic freeserifbolditalic FreeSerifBoldItalic.ttf freeserifitalic freeserifitalic FreeSerifItalic.ttf freeserifnormal freeserifitalic FreeSerifItalic.ttf I also see fonts | names | scanning /opt/luatex/standalone-mkiv/tex/texmf-project for otf files fonts | names | scanning /opt/luatex/standalone-mkiv/tex/texmf-project for OTF files fonts | names | scanning /opt/luatex/standalone-mkiv/tex/texmf-project for ttf files fonts | names | scanning /opt/luatex/standalone-mkiv/tex/texmf-project for TTF files fonts | names | scanning /opt/luatex/standalone-mkiv/tex/texmf-project for ttc files fonts | names | scanning /opt/luatex/standalone-mkiv/tex/texmf-project for TTC files fonts | names | scanning /opt/luatex/standalone-mkiv/tex/texmf-project for dfont files fonts | names | scanning /opt/luatex/standalone-mkiv/tex/texmf-project for DFONT files fonts | names | scanning /opt/luatex/standalone-mkiv/tex/texmf-project for afm files fonts | names | scanning /opt/luatex/standalone-mkiv/tex/texmf-project for AFM files The problem with texmf-fonts/ is that is keep in sync with the original source, and hence the files can be deleted. > > 4) You might want to explain that the > source /opt/luatex/standalone-new/tex/setuptex > has to be done once at the start of each session, or else bad things > happen. Hm , nothing bad: you use the default pdftex/xetex/luatex --- nothing of catastrophic, this doesn't touch your mkiv in anyway. Given that mkiv require some experience, the default is to leave the distro to manage the TeX installation and the user to setup the appropriate environment. > 5) Generally it would be good to dilineate what should be done as root, > and where normal user stuff starts. Hm, to be root is not required -- have you found some problem ? -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimal Installer for Windows
Lukáš wrote: > One note - "ContextMinimalInstall.exe" should rather be named > "ContextStandaloneInstall.exe" or "ContextSuiteInstall.exe"... as "ConTeXt > Suite" is (now) the preferred name... Is that so? I'd missed that. Should I add "change references to 'ConTeXt Standalone' into 'ConTeXt Suite'" to the wiki's todo-list, for someone to pick up when they have the time? --Sietse On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Procházka Lukáš wrote: > On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 17:25:42 +0100, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky > wrote: > >> Hi again, >> >> > is it possible to add an option to NOT add path to Ctx binaries to >> PATH? >> >This may collide with TeXLive users, and also when one switches among >> more Ctx versions. >> >> There is such an option, uncheck "Set environment variables globally". >> >> >BTW: Where the new installer is available? >> >> I hope it will be added to new server distribution folder. (I asked >> Mojca for that). >> >> Meanwhile, use this temporary link >> http://www.sendspace.com/file/051tea > > > OK, thanks... > > One note - "ContextMinimalInstall.exe" should rather be named > "ContextStandaloneInstall.exe" or "ContextSuiteInstall.exe"... as "ConTeXt > Suite" is (now) the preferred name... > > Best regards, > > Lukas > > >> Regards, >> Vyatcheslav >> >> ___ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to >> the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net >> archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> >> ___ > > > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 'kern': TrueType table and GPOS lookup feature
Hi Luigi, I got ConTeXt installed and running, but the install was very choppy. FYI the script you gave me had several problems, which I'll detail here. 1) Throughout you want freefont-ttf-20120503 rather than freefont-src-20120503 2) This line has a stray backslash character bash /first-setup.sh --modules=simplefonts 3) The command mtxrun --script font --reload searches a bunch of directories for fonts, but not the directory texmf-project/fonts/ My work-around was just to copy the *.ttf files to texmf-fonts/ and then re-do the mtxrun line. 4) You might want to explain that the source /opt/luatex/standalone-new/tex/setuptex has to be done once at the start of each session, or else bad things happen. 5) Generally it would be good to dilineate what should be done as root, and where normal user stuff starts. Thanks! On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Steve White wrote: > Luigi, > > OK, I get it. (I have wasted a couple of hours, it seems.) > > I'll do as you first recommeded. > > > > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 8:37 PM, luigi scarso wrote: > >> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Steve White >> wrote: >> > >> > If possible, I would like to get the distro version working, before >> moving >> > to the latest version. >> hm, hard and useless >> > Is this add-on module in some Debian package, or must one install it by >> > hand? >> > If the latter, what would be involved? >> no *deb package, as far I know. >> We usually have the latest context mkiv beta as reference, plus some >> "current"s. >> It's quite common that mkiv from texlive is too old (and those ones >> form the distro too). but it's not a problem because installation is >> easy. >> >> >> -- >> luigi >> >> ___ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to >> the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net >> archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> >> ___ >> > > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] request for a few volunteers to test distribution on new server
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: > > Hi Mojca, > > I just checked the new server. There appear to be no obvious errors, > everything works. Just a few small observations: > > 1. ./first-install.sh --server=distribution.contextgarden.net: I assume you > meant ./first-setup.sh, right? Yes. (But Hans' point is also true.) > 2. Is the rsync phase somewhat slower than it used to be? I have no real > measurements, just the impression that it took somewhat longer. I don't know. There is a high chance that lots of things had to be synchronized just because the date is different than it used to be on the old server. Maybe you observed that? But I didn't do any timings either. (Hans' explanation is also possible, but less likely.) I'm actually curious about the highest speed that people can get when fetching files from the server. > 3. I assume the "new" server doesn't get synced to the latest beta yet? > Because I get 2012.11.29 18:40, but 2012.11.30 has been out since yesterday, > according to the pragma website. Thanks for noticing. ConTeXt itself has been updated, I still need to figure out why it hasn't been synced to the distribution. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] decorated
Hi, In metapost (running metafun) the following does not work: draw image ( draw fullcircle scaled 20cm withpen pencircle scaled 20mm withcolor red withtransparency (1,.40) ; draw fullcircle scaled 15cm withpen pencircle scaled 15mm withcolor green withtransparency (1,.30) ; draw fullcircle scaled 10cm withpen pencircle scaled 10mm withcolor blue withtransparency (1,.20) ; ) withcolor blue withtransparency (1,.125) % selectively applied withpen pencircle scaled 10mm ; Here the last transparency gets only applied to the first element of the picture. For this reason, the following new variants of 'image' are provided: decorated : adds to the current properties, last one wins redecoreated: replaces the current properties (color and transparency only, pens are kept) undecorated : ignores the specification This will work with the upcoming metapost/mplib release but I like to mention it now (before I forget). Hans -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] request for a few volunteers to test distribution on new server
On 12/1/2012 11:06 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On 11/30/2012 03:22 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: Dear ConTeXters, we will point the distribution to the new server later today (for a moment without any significant changes). Before we do that I would like to ask some of you to try out ./first-install.sh --server=distribution.contextgarden.net to make sure that I didn't do any obvious mistake on the way. Hi Mojca, I just checked the new server. There appear to be no obvious errors, everything works. Just a few small observations: 1. ./first-install.sh --server=distribution.contextgarden.net: I assume you meant ./first-setup.sh, right? Which reminds me .. weren't we going to rename the script into "context-install' or so? 2. Is the rsync phase somewhat slower than it used to be? I have no real measurements, just the impression that it took somewhat longer. the previous server was probably located close to your home 3. I assume the "new" server doesn't get synced to the latest beta yet? Because I get 2012.11.29 18:40, but 2012.11.30 has been out since yesterday, according to the pragma website. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] request for a few volunteers to test distribution on new server
On 11/30/2012 03:22 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: Dear ConTeXters, we will point the distribution to the new server later today (for a moment without any significant changes). Before we do that I would like to ask some of you to try out ./first-install.sh --server=distribution.contextgarden.net to make sure that I didn't do any obvious mistake on the way. Hi Mojca, I just checked the new server. There appear to be no obvious errors, everything works. Just a few small observations: 1. ./first-install.sh --server=distribution.contextgarden.net: I assume you meant ./first-setup.sh, right? 2. Is the rsync phase somewhat slower than it used to be? I have no real measurements, just the impression that it took somewhat longer. 3. I assume the "new" server doesn't get synced to the latest beta yet? Because I get 2012.11.29 18:40, but 2012.11.30 has been out since yesterday, according to the pragma website. Thanks for the important and wonderful work, all best Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimal Installer for Windows
On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 17:25:42 +0100, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: Hi again, > is it possible to add an option to NOT add path to Ctx binaries to PATH? >This may collide with TeXLive users, and also when one switches among more Ctx versions. There is such an option, uncheck "Set environment variables globally". >BTW: Where the new installer is available? I hope it will be added to new server distribution folder. (I asked Mojca for that). Meanwhile, use this temporary link http://www.sendspace.com/file/051tea OK, thanks... One note - "ContextMinimalInstall.exe" should rather be named "ContextStandaloneInstall.exe" or "ContextSuiteInstall.exe"... as "ConTeXt Suite" is (now) the preferred name... Best regards, Lukas Regards, Vyatcheslav ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___