Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-30 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 30.04.2009 um 20:33 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: Am 2009-04-30 um 19:06 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: I presented you a solution with sectionworld headers, the \Title command was AFAIR your invention (which you never mentioned before). That one indeed (that was easy...), but the whole sect

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-30 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2009-04-30 um 19:06 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: You never needed the sectionworld command for your own header command, this solution is cleaner and works with mkii and mkiv. Thank you! That's nearly exactly what I wanted to achieve! So I asked the wrong question, stupid newbie error... But

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-30 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 30.04.2009 um 17:40 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: Am 2009-04-29 um 23:07 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: You never needed the sectionworld command for your own header command, this solution is cleaner and works with mkii and mkiv. Thank you! That's nearly exactly what I wanted to achieve! So

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-30 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2009-04-29 um 23:07 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: You never needed the sectionworld command for your own header command, this solution is cleaner and works with mkii and mkiv. Thank you! That's nearly exactly what I wanted to achieve! So I asked the wrong question, stupid newbie error... But I

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread R. Bastian
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:00:07 +0200 luigi scarso scribit: > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:46 PM, R. Bastian wrote: > > > On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:55:05 +0200 > > luigi scarso scribit: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May be that ConTeXt is not a 'context free language' ;-) > > > > than it will be difficu

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 29.04.2009 um 17:11 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: I try to understand here, how to redo my chapter setup that once worked using sectionworld commands. At the moment I get no output for the chapter title at all. My input reads: \Titel{Author}{Title}{Subtitle} You never needed the sectio

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 29.04.2009 um 21:13 schrieb Otared Kavian: Thanks for your nice example, but I too get "See section 1 at page 11.1." with ConTeXt ver: 2009.04.21 16:11 MKIV fmt: 2009.4.25 int: english/english. MTXrun | current version: 2009.04.28 08:46 Wolfgang

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Otared Kavian
On 29 avr. 09, at 21:05, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 29.04.2009 um 21:01 schrieb Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky: Wolfgang, your script in mkiv produces "It's not as hard you think, just show him a few nice things and he is happy. See section 1 at page *11.1*." I don't understand why \at{page}[s

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 29.04.2009 um 21:01 schrieb Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky: Wolfgang, your script in mkiv produces "It's not as hard you think, just show him a few nice things and he is happy. See section 1 at page *11.1*." I don't understand why \at{page}[sec:happy] outputs section number. weird because i g

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
Wolfgang, your script in mkiv produces "It's not as hard you think, just show him a few nice things and he is happy. See section 1 at page *11.1*." I don't understand why \at{page}[sec:happy] outputs section number. Vyatcheslav _

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي ح امد
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:31:27 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 29.04.2009 um 20:23 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد: ok, thnx! OTOH, I did not see any illustrative examples of the use of [optional user data] \setuphead[title][align=middle,command=\TitleCommand] \define[2]\Ti

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 29.04.2009 um 20:23 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد: ok, thnx! OTOH, I did not see any illustrative examples of the use of [optional user data] \setuphead[title][align=middle,command=\TitleCommand] \setuphead[chapter][align=middle,command=\TitleCommand] \define[2]\TitleCom

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 29.04.2009 um 20:23 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد: ok, thnx! OTOH, I did not see any illustrative examples of the use of [optional user data] \setuphead[title][align=middle,command=\TitleCommand] \define[2]\TitleCommand {\startframedtext[frame=off,width=\hsize,align=mid

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Hans Hagen
Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote: On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:14:38 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: \startchapter[title=,reference=,bookmark=,...][optional user data] Could you [or someone] give a couple of example of how to use [optional user data] Also, where in the base files does t

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي ح امد
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:14:38 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: \startchapter[title=,reference=,bookmark=,...][optional user data] Could you [or someone] give a couple of example of how to use [optional user data] Also, where in the base files does this stuff get defined? I could not find i

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 29.04.2009 um 17:07 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد: Hi Wolfgang, On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:54:50 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster > wrote: Anyway: which is the best method to get the list of all params one can give to \startSOMETHING (in this case \startchapter and the meanings of

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:46 PM, R. Bastian wrote: > On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:55:05 +0200 > luigi scarso scribit: > > > > > > > > > > May be that ConTeXt is not a 'context free language' ;-) > > > than it will be difficult to express something in a BNF grammar > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread R. Bastian
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:55:05 +0200 luigi scarso scribit: > > > > > > May be that ConTeXt is not a 'context free language' ;-) > > than it will be difficult to express something in a BNF grammar > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backus-Naur_form. > > > hmm. > Context is a macro package in TeX lang

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread luigi scarso
> > > May be that ConTeXt is not a 'context free language' ;-) > than it will be difficult to express something in a BNF grammar > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backus-Naur_form. > hmm. Context is a macro package in TeX language which is Turing Complete. > But if (ConTeXt == formal_language), it

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread R. Bastian
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 09:07:53 -0600 Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد scribit: > Hi Wolfgang, > > On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:54:50 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster > wrote: > > >> Anyway: which is the best method to get the list of all params > >> one can give to \startSOMETHING (in this case \startch

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2009-04-29 um 15:53 schrieb Mohamed Bana: Would it be possible to go through a deprecation phase? E.g., allow \section hello world to compile, but prompt the user to acknowledge that it's going to be replaced with \section{hello world} in future versions. Please don't mix your concern

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي ح امد
Hi Wolfgang, On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:54:50 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Anyway: which is the best method to get the list of all params one can give to \startSOMETHING (in this case \startchapter and the meanings of this params (some are obvious : title= ..., but not all). http://prag

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Mohamed Bana
Would it be possible to go through a deprecation phase? E.g., allow \section hello world to compile, but prompt the user to acknowledge that it's going to be replaced with \section{hello world} in future versions. On 28/04/2009 19:53, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 28.04.2009 um 19:42 schri

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 29.04.2009 um 10:24 schrieb Hans Hagen: I don't understand how to use \startchapter[]{} ... \stopchapter for my needs. \startchapter[title=,reference=,bookmark=,...][optional user data] is optional data in keyval form or normal text and who to use own values for

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 29.04.2009 um 14:35 schrieb R. Bastian: The \startchapter does not exist in my MinimalContex installation, but I hope one can include it. I dream from a world where people can whether they use MkII or MkIV and what's the date of their ConTeXt version. Anyway: which is the best method to

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread R. Bastian
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:24:01 +0200 Wolfgang Schuster scribit: > > Am 29.04.2009 um 10:24 schrieb Hans Hagen: > > >> I don't understand how to use \startchapter[]{} ... \stopchapter > >> for my needs. > > > > \startchapter[title=,reference=,bookmark=,...][optional user data] > > is optional d

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 29.04.2009 um 10:24 schrieb Hans Hagen: I don't understand how to use \startchapter[]{} ... \stopchapter for my needs. \startchapter[title=,reference=,bookmark=,...][optional user data] is optional data in keyval form or normal text and who to use own values for author, date etc. in tit

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-29 Thread Hans Hagen
Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Am 2009-04-28 um 20:53 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: \setupsectionworld is unknown in latest beta (at least since some betas before). removed from mkiv a *long* time ago, there is now \startchapter etc. Long time in ConTeXt means less than a year... In 2008-08 Hans

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-28 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2009-04-28 um 20:53 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: \setupsectionworld is unknown in latest beta (at least since some betas before). removed from mkiv a *long* time ago, there is now \startchapter etc. Long time in ConTeXt means less than a year... In 2008-08 Hans still wrote he wouldn't kno

Re: [NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-28 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 28.04.2009 um 19:42 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: \setupsectionworld is unknown in latest beta (at least since some betas before). removed from mkiv a *long* time ago, there is now \startchapter etc. Wolfgang ___

[NTG-context] What happened with sectionworld?

2009-04-28 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
\setupsectionworld is unknown in latest beta (at least since some betas before). Can I replace it with some other command? Here is some code using sectionworlds, that Wolfgang wrote for me in 2008, same as in http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Proceedings_style % with help from Wolfgang Schuste