Re: [NTG-context] placefigure, usetikzlibrary and readfile

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 8/1/2021 10:27 PM, Jigé via ntg-context wrote:

Hello all.

It seems that \usetikzlibrary is sometimes read, sometimes not, and I don't 
understand why.

Rationale:

I would like, using one file, to use it to produce a picture, as with LaTeX's 
Standalone class,
but to be able to include it in a calling document as well, for better 
management of fonts, etc.
Thus this is most convenient. I have everything in the main document and I can 
quickly reuse any figure elsewhere.


What I did:

I use \readfile in a main ConTeXt file document.tex to include the file 
included.tex .
The file included.tex should contain *just* the TikZ picture and what is needed to 
compile it "standalone".


The issue:

It seems I can call the file with the TikZ picture description multiple times, 
with \readfile,
from within the very same \placefigure.

However, if I call it by using two successive \placefigure commands,
the \usetikzlibrary[blabla] in the included file doesn't seem to be recognised.
E.g. with the provided example below, the key "right angle" is not understood, 
as if \usetikzlibrary[angles] was not there.

One workaround would be to use 
\usetikzlibrary[allTheLibrariesISupposeMightEverBeNeeded]
in the calling file. But I don't like it. I would rather have only the TikZ 
libraries relevant to some picture included in the corresponding file.

I'm quite startled by the fact that :
   >  \placefigure[here][]{This is a figure}{
   >\readfile{included}{}{File not found.}
   >\readfile{included}{}{File not found.}
   >  }
compiles but
   >  \placefigure[here][]{This is a figure}{
   >\readfile{included}{}{File not found.}
   >  }
   >  \placefigure[here][]{This is a figure}{
   >\readfile{included}{}{File not found.}
   >  }
does not.
modules are loaded only once so you just have to call it in the main 
document (more efficient than reloading each time anyway)


loading some module inside a figure is actually problemantic because you 
can end up with a mix of global and local definitions depending on how a 
module is set up (and tikz being pretty large it might be that at some 
point you can expect problems, apart from loading taking time)


you can try to do \input {m-tikz.mlxl} or whatever but don't expect much 
help when there is an isseu due to multiple loading of tikz


if there's a lot of extra tikz stuff then you can put that in a privane 
module or environment (these are also loaded once) and load that one


if you use the project structure you can actually share environments and 
again these are then loaded once


Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure right or left error in ver: 2018.04.04 00:51 MKIV

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 9/27/19 2:33 PM, Philippe Oechslin wrote:
> Hello there,
>
> I recently upgraded to  ConTeXt  ver: 2018.04.04 00:51 MKIV  and found that
> the following simple code gives an error, where as it compiled without
> complaining in ver: 2017.05.15 21:48.
> [...]
> I am running a freshly installed Ubuntu 19.04. Has anybody run into this 
> issues,
> is there a known workaround ?

Hi Philippe,

it works fine with latest ConTeXt Suite beta from 2019.09.10 20:03.

Since ConTeXt Suite is a portable distribution (you may have it with TeX
Live installed), I'd rather install the latest beta.

So you avoid dealing with already solved issues.

Just in case it helps,

Pablo
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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure and listoffigures

[Alan BRASLAU]

On Tue, 15 Mar 2016 23:01:46 +0100
Wolfgang Schuster  wrote:

> \startplacefigure [location={inmargin,none}]

Thank you, clean and elegant (and much easier than Willi's suggestion).
The syntax is a bit magical, though ("location" of the caption).

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure and listoffigures

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Alan BRASLAU 
15. März 2016 um 21:43
Hi,

How can one suppress the addition of a placed figure to the
listoffigures?

In the following MWE, list=no places "no" as an alternative to the
(blank) title.

Alan


\starttext

\startplacefigure [location=inmargin,number=no,list=no]

\startplacefigure [location={inmargin,none}]

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure and listoffigures

[Willi Egger]

I would define another float and assign this not to be listed float to this new 
float-type something like \definefloat[Notlisted][figure] and then
\startplaceNotlisted
\externalf…
\stopplaceNotlisted

Best wishes

Willi
> On 15 mrt. 2016, at 21:43, Alan BRASLAU  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> How can one suppress the addition of a placed figure to the
> listoffigures?
> 
> In the following MWE, list=no places "no" as an alternative to the
> (blank) title.
> 
> Alan
> 
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \startplacefigure [location=inmargin,number=no,list=no]
>  \externalfigure [cow] [width=1cm]
> \stopplacefigure
> \input knuth
> 
> \blank
> 
> \placelistoffigures [criterium=all]
> 
> \stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] \placefigure and title bug in latest beta

[Otared Kavian]

Hi,

I can confirm this…
This is probably due to the new features Hans added today.

Also, the new feature 

\placelist[figure][criterium=text]

places indeed the list of the figures, but the names of the figures, or rather 
their captions are all indicated by the word « list ».

Best regards: OK


On 6 avr. 2014, at 16:26, Alan Bowen bowenala...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hans—
 
 In today’s beta, the following produces a figure entitled “Figure 1 title”:
 
 \setupexternalfigures[location={local,default}]
 \starttext
 \useexternalfigure[cow.pdf]
 \startplacefigure[title={A cow}]
   {\externalfigure[Graphic][cow.pdf]}
 \stopplacefigure
 \stoptext
 
 Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] \placefigure[right or left] failing in footnotes

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 03.03.2014 um 16:04 schrieb Alan Bowen bowenala...@gmail.com:

 The following does not work as it should:
 
 setupexternalfigures[location={local,default}]
 
 \starttext
 text%
 \footnote{\hangsidefloat[2]
   \placefigure[right,none]{}
   {\externalfigure[cow][width=.1\textwidth]}
   \dorecurse{3}{\input ward}}
  
 %for comparison
 \hangsidefloat[2]
 \placefigure[right,none]{}
   {\externalfigure[cow][width=.1\textwidth]}
   \dorecurse{3}{\input ward}%
  \stoptext
 
 The text and image in the main body are as they should be.
  
 But note that the first line of the footnote is blank and that, while the 
 image is placed as it should be, the text runs through it.

1. The vertical distance before and after floats can be changed with 
\setupfloat[spacebefore=…,spaceafter=…].

2. Some features like floats or columns don’t work or can be used only with 
limitations in footnotes.

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] \placefigure[right or left] failing in footnotes

[Alan Bowen]

Again, thanks.

My tests so far indicate that the only way to go in footnotes is with
\starthanging[location-right]...\stophanging--and to be happy with the output
as it is (which is quite nice, when all is said and done).

Alan


On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Wolfgang Schuster 
schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote:


 Am 03.03.2014 um 16:04 schrieb Alan Bowen bowenala...@gmail.com:

 The following does not work as it should:

 setupexternalfigures[location={local,default}]

 \starttext
 text%
 \footnote{\hangsidefloat[2]
  \placefigure[right,none]{}
 {\externalfigure[cow][width=.1\textwidth]}
 \dorecurse{3}{\input ward}}

 %for comparison
 \hangsidefloat[2]
 \placefigure[right,none]{}
 {\externalfigure[cow][width=.1\textwidth]}
 \dorecurse{3}{\input ward}%
  \stoptext

 The text and image in the main body are as they should be.

 But note that the first line of the footnote is blank and that, while the
 image is placed as it should be, the text runs through it.


 1. The vertical distance before and after floats can be changed with
 \setupfloat[spacebefore=...,spaceafter=...].

 2. Some features like floats or columns don't work or can be used only
 with limitations in footnotes.

 Wolfgang



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Re: [NTG-context] Placefigure without Caption-Numbering

[Alan Braslau]

On Sat, 30 Nov 2013 21:06:20 +0100
Jan Tosovsky j.tosov...@email.cz wrote:

 Indeed much cleaner. But that numbering option seems to be ignored ;-)
 Does it work for you?

Sorry, it is number=no.

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Re: [NTG-context] Placefigure without Caption-Numbering

[Jan Tosovsky]

On 2013-04-16 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 Am 16.04.2013 um 18:56 schrieb H. Özoguz h.oezoguz at mmnetz.de:
 
  How to deactive the Caption-Numbering:
  
  \starttext
  
  \placefigure[here]{Blub}{\externalfigure[image][width=6cm]}
  
  \stoptext
  
  I want the caption Blub, but not the Figure 1 label.

 \placefigure[here,nonumber]{.}{.}

It helped me now. 

Btw, there is no such an option mentioned in the WIKI or user guide...

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/placefigure

But I'd like to add:
(1) caption=none renders 'none' instead of nothing...
(2) when key=none is combined, e.g. [none, page], the numbering is
suppressed, but the second option is ignored. But [page, none] works fine.
The order matters. It is same for [page, nonumber].

It would be nice to fix those examples in Wiki or if MkIV behaves
differently, add an appropriate alternative there.

Thanks, Jan


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Re: [NTG-context] Placefigure without Caption-Numbering

[Alan Braslau]

On Sat, 30 Nov 2013 19:42:54 +0100
Jan Tosovsky j.tosov...@email.cz wrote:

 On 2013-04-16 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
  Am 16.04.2013 um 18:56 schrieb H. Özoguz h.oezoguz at mmnetz.de:
  
   How to deactive the Caption-Numbering:
   
   \starttext
   
   \placefigure[here]{Blub}{\externalfigure[image][width=6cm]}
   
   \stoptext
   
   I want the caption Blub, but not the Figure 1 label.
 
  \placefigure[here,nonumber]{.}{.}
 
 It helped me now. 
 
 Btw, there is no such an option mentioned in the WIKI or user guide...
 
 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/placefigure
 
 But I'd like to add:
 (1) caption=none renders 'none' instead of nothing...
 (2) when key=none is combined, e.g. [none, page], the numbering is
 suppressed, but the second option is ignored. But [page, none] works
 fine. The order matters. It is same for [page, nonumber].
 
 It would be nice to fix those examples in Wiki or if MkIV behaves
 differently, add an appropriate alternative there.
 
 Thanks, Jan

I find that the \startplacefigure \stopplacefigure interface is much
cleaner:

\startplacefigure [location=here,numbering=no,title=Blub]
  \externalfigure [image] [width=6cm]
\stopplacefigure

Alan

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Re: [NTG-context] Placefigure without Caption-Numbering

[Jan Tosovsky]

On 2013-11-30 Alan Braslau wrote:
 On Sat, 30 Nov 2013 19:42:54 +0100
 Jan Tosovsky j.tosov...@email.cz wrote: 
  On 2013-04-16 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
   Am 16.04.2013 um 18:56 schrieb H. Özoguz
   
How to deactive the Caption-Numbering:
   
\starttext
   
\placefigure[here]{Blub}{\externalfigure[image][width=6cm]}
   
\stoptext
   
I want the caption Blub, but not the Figure 1 label.
  
   \placefigure[here,nonumber]{.}{.}
 
  It helped me now.
 
  Btw, there is no such an option mentioned in the WIKI or user
  guide...
 
  http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/placefigure
 
  But I'd like to add:
  (1) caption=none renders 'none' instead of nothing...
  (2) when key=none is combined, e.g. [none, page], the numbering is
  suppressed, but the second option is ignored. But [page, none] works
  fine. The order matters. It is same for [page, nonumber].
 
  It would be nice to fix those examples in Wiki or if MkIV behaves
  differently, add an appropriate alternative there.
 
 I find that the \startplacefigure \stopplacefigure interface is much
 cleaner:
 
 \startplacefigure [location=here,numbering=no,title=Blub]
   \externalfigure [image] [width=6cm]
 \stopplacefigure
 

Indeed much cleaner. But that numbering option seems to be ignored ;-)
Does it work for you?

Jan

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure problem

[Hans Hagen]

On 8/20/2013 12:08 PM, Wim W. Wilhelm wrote:

Dear all,
I encountered a problem with TexLive 2013 context.
The problem persisted with the context beta.
With
LuaTex version beta-0.77.0-2013081719 (rev 4640)
and
ConTeXt  ver: 2013.08.18 18:32 MKIV beta  fmt: 2013.8.20  int:
english/english
I compiled:
\starttext
\chapter{c-titel}
\section{s1-titel}
text
\placefigure[none,left]{}{\externalfigure[c:/context/tekeningen/hemelbol.pdf][height=6cm]}
text
\placefigure[none,left]{}{\externalfigure[c:/context/tekeningen/afplatting.pdf][height=4cm]}
text
\section{s2-title}
text
\stoptext
The figures were placed in the middle of the page and the text did not wrap
around the figures.
Everything worked fine in TexLive 2012 context.
I'm a bit lost, any idea?
cheerio


[left,none] ... the first keyword determines the place

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Re: [NTG-context] Placefigure inner/outer

[Marco Patzer]

On 2013–08–04 Tim Steenvoorden wrote:

 \starttext
 \input knuth
 \placefigure[left]{}{\externalfigure[figurename]}
 \input knuth
 \placefigure[inner]{}{\externalfigure[figurename]}

What do you want to do? Place it in the margin?

  \placefigure[inleft]{}{\externalfigure[figurename]}

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Re: [NTG-context] Placefigure inner/outer

[Tim Steenvoorden]

No. I want to place the figure to the left of the text if it is on a
odd page and to the right of the text if it is on a even page. Thus
the same effect left and right have as keywords, but depending on
the page it is on.

Cheers,
Tim

2013/8/4 Marco Patzer home...@lavabit.com:
 On 2013–08–04 Tim Steenvoorden wrote:

 \starttext
 \input knuth
 \placefigure[left]{}{\externalfigure[figurename]}
 \input knuth
 \placefigure[inner]{}{\externalfigure[figurename]}

 What do you want to do? Place it in the margin?

   \placefigure[inleft]{}{\externalfigure[figurename]}

 Marco

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Re: [NTG-context] Placefigure inner/outer

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 04.08.2013 um 22:40 schrieb Marco Patzer home...@lavabit.com:

 On 2013–08–04 Tim Steenvoorden wrote:
 
 \starttext
 \input knuth
 \placefigure[left]{}{\externalfigure[figurename]}
 \input knuth
 \placefigure[inner]{}{\externalfigure[figurename]}
 
 What do you want to do? Place it in the margin?
 
  \placefigure[inleft]{}{\externalfigure[figurename]}

With the “inner” and “outer” keywords context uses
the “left” and “right” locations dependent on the page.

The feature doesn’t work in MkIV because two commands
are processed in the wrong order.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Placefigure inner/outer

[Tim Steenvoorden]

Pitty. I used it a lot in a project I'm porting to MkIV. Will it be
fixed someday?

2013/8/4 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com:

 Am 04.08.2013 um 22:40 schrieb Marco Patzer home...@lavabit.com:

 On 2013–08–04 Tim Steenvoorden wrote:

 \starttext
 \input knuth
 \placefigure[left]{}{\externalfigure[figurename]}
 \input knuth
 \placefigure[inner]{}{\externalfigure[figurename]}

 What do you want to do? Place it in the margin?

  \placefigure[inleft]{}{\externalfigure[figurename]}

 With the “inner” and “outer” keywords context uses
 the “left” and “right” locations dependent on the page.

 The feature doesn’t work in MkIV because two commands
 are processed in the wrong order.

 Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Placefigure inner/outer

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 04.08.2013 um 22:53 schrieb Tim Steenvoorden tim.steenvoor...@gmail.com:

 Pitty. I used it a lot in a project I'm porting to MkIV. Will it be
 fixed someday?

It depends on Hans, I’ll send him a mail about the problem.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Placefigure inner/outer

[Tim Steenvoorden]

Thanks Wolfgang!

2013/8/4 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com:

 Am 04.08.2013 um 22:53 schrieb Tim Steenvoorden tim.steenvoor...@gmail.com:

 Pitty. I used it a lot in a project I'm porting to MkIV. Will it be
 fixed someday?

 It depends on Hans, I’ll send him a mail about the problem.

 Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Placefigure without Caption-Numbering

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 16.04.2013 um 18:56 schrieb H. Özoguz h.oezo...@mmnetz.de:

 How to deactive the Caption-Numbering:
 
 \starttext
 
 \placefigure[here]{Blub}{\externalfigure[image][width=6cm]}
 
 \stoptext
 
 I want the caption Blub, but not the Figure 1 label.

\placefigure[here,nonumber]{…}{…}

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure

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On 21 March 2013 17:26, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
 while fixing some buglets that showed up in the test suite I ran into 
 \placenamedfloat
 maybe worth wikifying (bug will be solved in beta)

Wikified:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/placenamedfloat

Below is what I wrote; is that correct?

Groetjes,
Sietse

== Description ==

If a float is placed (with \placefloat) location argument
somewhere:name, it is not placed immediately. Instead, it may be
manually placed elsewhere with \placenamedfloat.

== Example ==

This example declares four figures to be placed elsewhere: alpha,
beta, gamma, and delta. The first \placenamedfloat call places all
figures with l in their name (i.e. alpha and delta; the next two calls
place gamma and beta, respectively.
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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure

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On 3/21/2013 11:04 PM, Sietse Brouwer wrote:

On 21 March 2013 17:26, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

while fixing some buglets that showed up in the test suite I ran into 
\placenamedfloat
maybe worth wikifying (bug will be solved in beta)


Wikified:
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Below is what I wrote; is that correct?


indeed, thanks,

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Re: [NTG-context] Placefigure without numbering

[Marco Patzer]

On 2013–02–01 H. Özoguz wrote:

 how to deactivate numbering for the following (empty) picture?
 
 \placefigure[here][fig:demo]{My description under the picture.}{}

\startplacefigure [title=My description, reference=fig:demo, number=no]
  …
\stopplacefigure

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Re: [NTG-context] Placefigure without numbering

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Am 01.02.2013 21:58, schrieb ntg-context-requ...@ntg.nl:

\startplacefigure [title=My description, reference=fig:demo, number=no]
   ?
\stopplacefigure
Thanks Marco, and how to align the title at the center under the 
picture? (Now it is flushright)


Thanks
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Re: [NTG-context] Placefigure without numbering

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Am 01.02.2013 21:58, schrieb ntg-context-requ...@ntg.nl:

\startplacefigure [title=My description, reference=fig:demo, number=no]
   ?
\stopplacefigure
Thanks Marco, and how to align the title at the center under the 
picture? (Now it is flushright)


Thanks
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Re: [NTG-context] Placefigure without numbering

[Alan BRASLAU]

On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 22:42:10 +0100
H. Özoguz h.oezo...@mmnetz.de wrote:

 Am 01.02.2013 21:58, schrieb ntg-context-requ...@ntg.nl:
  \startplacefigure [title=My description, reference=fig:demo,
  number=no] ?
  \stopplacefigure
 Thanks Marco, and how to align the title at the center under the 
 picture? (Now it is flushright)
 

Untested:
\setupcaption [figure] [align=middle]

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Re: [NTG-context] \placefigure[margin] but in left margin?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 03.01.2013 um 13:48 schrieb Mikael P. Sundqvist mic...@gmail.com:

 Dear list,
 
 I want to have the effect I get with \placefigure[margin] but I want it 
 _always_ in the left margin instead of the right margin where it ends up by 
 default. I have tried several other keys but with leftmargin, inleft the 
 figure is not put in the top of the page, independent of the text. Can I 
 fix this with some setup?
 
 Small test file:

\setupmarginblocks
  [location=left]

 \starttext
 \input tufte
 
 \placefigure[leftmargin][none]{With the key 
 leftmargin}{\externalfigure[cow][width=1cm]}
 \input tufte
 
 \placefigure[inleft][none]{With the key 
 inleft}{\externalfigure[cow][width=1cm]}
 \input tufte
 
 \placefigure[margin][none]{With the key 
 margin}{\externalfigure[cow][width=1cm]}
 \input tufte
 % This is the way I want it, but I want it in the left margin instead
 \stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] \placefigure[margin] but in left margin?

[Mikael P. Sundqvist]

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Wolfgang Schuster 
wolfgang.schus...@gmail.com wrote:


 Am 03.01.2013 um 13:48 schrieb Mikael P. Sundqvist mic...@gmail.com:

  Dear list,
 
  I want to have the effect I get with \placefigure[margin] but I want it
 _always_ in the left margin instead of the right margin where it ends up by
 default. I have tried several other keys but with leftmargin, inleft the
 figure is not put in the top of the page, independent of the text. Can I
 fix this with some setup?
 
  Small test file:

 \setupmarginblocks
   [location=left]

  \starttext
  \input tufte
 
  \placefigure[leftmargin][none]{With the key
 leftmargin}{\externalfigure[cow][width=1cm]}
  \input tufte
 
  \placefigure[inleft][none]{With the key
 inleft}{\externalfigure[cow][width=1cm]}
  \input tufte
 
  \placefigure[margin][none]{With the key
 margin}{\externalfigure[cow][width=1cm]}
  \input tufte
  % This is the way I want it, but I want it in the left margin instead
  \stoptext

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Thank you very much for your fast reply, Wolfgang. That is what I looked
for. However, a new problem appeared now. The example file

\setuppapersize[A5][A5]

\setuplayout[
footer=0cm,
header=0.6cm,
headerdistance=0.2cm,
footerdistance=0cm,
topspace=1cm,
backspace=4cm,
leftmargin=3cm,
rightmargin=0cm,
leftmargindistance=0.5cm,
height=fit,
width=fit,
]

\setupmarginblocks[location=left]


\starttext
\showlayout

\placefigure[margin][none]{With the key
margin}{\externalfigure[cow][width=3cm]}
\input tufte

\stoptext

does not work as intended for me. The layout looks OK if I read the
\showlayout output correctly, but the cow is not put entirely in the
margin, but sticks out outside the page. I attach the output of the code
above.

Best regards, Mikael


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Re: [NTG-context] \placefigure[margin] but in left margin?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 03.01.2013 um 17:13 schrieb Mikael P. Sundqvist mic...@gmail.com:

 On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Wolfgang Schuster 
 wolfgang.schus...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Am 03.01.2013 um 13:48 schrieb Mikael P. Sundqvist mic...@gmail.com:
 
  Dear list,
 
  I want to have the effect I get with \placefigure[margin] but I want it 
  _always_ in the left margin instead of the right margin where it ends up by 
  default. I have tried several other keys but with leftmargin, inleft the 
  figure is not put in the top of the page, independent of the text. Can I 
  fix this with some setup?
 
  Small test file:
 
 \setupmarginblocks
   [location=left]
 
  \starttext
  \input tufte
 
  \placefigure[leftmargin][none]{With the key 
  leftmargin}{\externalfigure[cow][width=1cm]}
  \input tufte
 
  \placefigure[inleft][none]{With the key 
  inleft}{\externalfigure[cow][width=1cm]}
  \input tufte
 
  \placefigure[margin][none]{With the key 
  margin}{\externalfigure[cow][width=1cm]}
  \input tufte
  % This is the way I want it, but I want it in the left margin instead
  \stoptext
 
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 Thank you very much for your fast reply, Wolfgang. That is what I looked for. 
 However, a new problem appeared now. The example file
 
 \setuppapersize[A5][A5]
 
 \setuplayout[
 footer=0cm,
 header=0.6cm,
 headerdistance=0.2cm,
 footerdistance=0cm,
 topspace=1cm,
 backspace=4cm,
 leftmargin=3cm,
 rightmargin=0cm,
 leftmargindistance=0.5cm,
 height=fit,
 width=fit,
 ]
 
 \setupmarginblocks[location=left]

\setupmarginblocks
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Re: [NTG-context] \placefigure[margin] but in left margin?

[Mikael P. Sundqvist]

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Wolfgang Schuster 
wolfgang.schus...@gmail.com wrote:


 Am 03.01.2013 um 17:13 schrieb Mikael P. Sundqvist mic...@gmail.com:

 On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Wolfgang Schuster 
 wolfgang.schus...@gmail.com wrote:


 Am 03.01.2013 um 13:48 schrieb Mikael P. Sundqvist mic...@gmail.com:

  Dear list,
 
  I want to have the effect I get with \placefigure[margin] but I want it
 _always_ in the left margin instead of the right margin where it ends up by
 default. I have tried several other keys but with leftmargin, inleft the
 figure is not put in the top of the page, independent of the text. Can I
 fix this with some setup?
 
  Small test file:

 \setupmarginblocks
   [location=left]

  \starttext
  \input tufte
 
  \placefigure[leftmargin][none]{With the key
 leftmargin}{\externalfigure[cow][width=1cm]}
  \input tufte
 
  \placefigure[inleft][none]{With the key
 inleft}{\externalfigure[cow][width=1cm]}
  \input tufte
 
  \placefigure[margin][none]{With the key
 margin}{\externalfigure[cow][width=1cm]}
  \input tufte
  % This is the way I want it, but I want it in the left margin instead
  \stoptext

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 Thank you very much for your fast reply, Wolfgang. That is what I looked
 for. However, a new problem appeared now. The example file

 \setuppapersize[A5][A5]

 \setuplayout[
 footer=0cm,
 header=0.6cm,
 headerdistance=0.2cm,
 footerdistance=0cm,
 topspace=1cm,
 backspace=4cm,
 leftmargin=3cm,
 rightmargin=0cm,
 leftmargindistance=0.5cm,
 height=fit,
 width=fit,
 ]

 \setupmarginblocks[location=left]


 \setupmarginblocks
   [location=left,
width=\leftmarginwidth]

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Thank you very much, Wolfgang! Now it looks as it should.

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure adds break

[Alan BRASLAU]

Hello,

A follow-up on the solution
\startpostponing [+0]
\startplacefigure
…
\stopplacefigure
\stoppostponing

As a side effect, one then needs to be careful to surround
ALL placefigures with \startpostponing[+0]\stoppostponing,
even those that occur after a paragraph end
(where one is not concerned about adding a paragraph break),
else the floating figures may get placed out of order,
e.g. figure 4 before figure 3.

As this makes for somewhat sloppy tex files,
should not placefigure/table/other get FIXED
so as not to introduce a paragraph break?

Alan


On Thu Apr 5 15:38:05 CEST 2012 Alan BRASLAU wrote:

 On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 13:39:42 +0200
 Steffen Wolfrum context at st.estfiles.de wrote:
 
  
  Am 05.04.2012 um 13:25 schrieb luigi scarso:
  
   On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Aditya Mahajan adityam at umich.edu
   wrote:
   (Untested)
   
   \startpostponing[+1]
   \placefigure[top]{}{...}
   \stoppostponing
   
   Rest of the text
   
   
   Aditya
   \starttext
   
   \switchtobodyfont[rm,10pt]
   
   \input tufte \input ward \input zapf \input tufte \input ward \input
   zapf \input tufte \input ward %
   \input zapf \input tufte \input ward %
   \input zapf HERE%
   \startpostponing[+1]
   \placefigure[top]{}{\vskip3pt\externalfigure[foo][frame=off,width=\dimexpr(\textwidth-10mm)]}
   \stoppostponing%
   AND HERE \input tufte \input ward %
   \input zapf \input tufte \input ward \input zapf \input tufte \input
   ward \input zapf \input tufte %
   \input ward \input zapf \input tufte \input ward \input zapf
   
   \stoptext
   
   seems ok
  
  
  
  indeed, a great result.
  (searching for this command now, I saw that it's a quite old
  command ... only I never knew it)
  
  thanks a lot Aditya and Luigi!
 
 
 I have been looking for a trick to place figures near their reference
 in the text, without imposing a paragraph break.
 This trick works (so thanks again to Aditya and Luigi):
 
 \starttext
 
 Some text is described \in{figure}[fig:reference].
 \startpostponing[+0]
 \startplacefigure[location=here,reference=fig:reference,
   title={This figure gets placed somewhere near its reference.}]
   \externalfigure[cow][width=\textwidth]
 \stopplacefigure
 \stoppostponing
 The text continues here without a paragraph break.
 
 \stoptext
 
 A few comments:
 
 1. The \startpostponing...\stoppostponing is necessary,
 although some other wrapper around the placefigure might also work.
 
 2. The % at the end of the lines in the above examples is not necessary
 unless one seeks to kill the spacing between {HERE}{AND HERE}.
 
 3. One should preferably be using \startplacefigure\stopplacefigure
 (rather than \placefigure). Besides being cleaner, as a bonus
 one gets to use title={},list={} for the figure caption and
 list of figure entry.
 
 Should placefigure be fixed somehow so as to hide its paragraph
 break itself?
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Re: [NTG-context] \placefigure padding

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 11.03.2012 um 04:12 schrieb Kip Warner:

 Hey list,
 
 The following minimal typesets a dummy figure. Note how there is about
 two lines of empty space below the figure. How do I control the amount
 of padding that surrounds the figure, such as the bottom?

With

\setupfloats
  [spacebefore=…,
   spaceafter=…]

you can control the space before and after the float, accepted are all values 
for \blank (dimensions and keywords).

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Re: [NTG-context] \placefigure padding

[Kip Warner]

On Sun, 2012-03-11 at 10:01 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 \setupfloats
   [spacebefore=,
spaceafter=]
 
 you can control the space before and after the float, accepted are all values 
 for \blank (dimensions and keywords).

That's probably the command I need, but I can't find any useful
documentation for it. I found this on the wiki, but all of the different
parameters aren't explained:

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/setupfloats

The User Manual PDF doesn't elaborate on the parameters either much.

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure shifting up?

[Hans Hagen]

On 11-1-2012 20:01, Meer, H. van der wrote:

In my document I have a number of \placefigures, some pdf's, some jpg's etc.. 
Mostly the figure are placed correct with respect to, the caption but sometimes 
for no apparent reason I can spot, the picture is shifted up. In the first 
illustration taken from the document this is clearly seen, picture and caption 
should be close together. Compare this with the other one.

I do not have a minimal example at hand, the document is too big for that and 
as said, I could not yet force the behaviour. Both \placefigure's are exactly 
the same apart from their specific contents.

Anyone who knows about this problem? For me it is quite a problem, because it 
ruins the document layout considerably.


no clue ... maybe put a frame around it to see the boundingboxes

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure shifting up?

[Hans van der Meer]

I might add to this report the following observation:

In a document with  \setuppapersize [S8][S8] the shifts appear now and then, 
whereas these are typeset normally when the document is place on   
\setuppapersize [A4][A4].

It seems that the papersize and placefigure sometimes have a problem with each 
other.

Hans van der Meer

On 11 jan. 2012, at 20:01, H. van der Meer wrote:

 In my document I have a number of \placefigures, some pdf's, some jpg's etc. 
 Mostly the figure are placed correct with respect to, the caption but 
 sometimes for no apparent reason I can spot, the picture is shifted up. In 
 the first illustration taken from the document this is clearly seen, picture 
 and caption should be close together. Compare this with the other one. 
 
 I do not have a minimal example at hand, the document is too big for that and 
 as said, I could not yet force the behaviour. Both \placefigure's are exactly 
 the same apart from their specific contents. 
 
 Anyone who knows about this problem? For me it is quite a problem, because it 
 ruins the document layout considerably.
 
 Hans van der Meer
 
 
 shifted.jpg
 notshifted.jpg

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure shifting up?

[Meer, H. van der]

I think I can nail the responsible one.

As far as I can see the problem is tightly coupled with the following structure:
  
\placefigure[][]{caption}{\startcombination[]{contents}{}{contents}{}\stopcombination}
The other figures I have seem to placed well enough, the above structures 
behaving erratic. I could not completely ascertain whether empty desciptions 
parts in the combination-members plays a role.

I really hope this will point the way to a fast solution from the gurus ;-)

Hans van der Meer



On 11 jan. 2012, at 20:21, Hans van der Meer wrote:

I might add to this report the following observation:

In a document with  \setuppapersize [S8][S8] the shifts appear now and then, 
whereas these are typeset normally when the document is place on  
\setuppapersize [A4][A4].

It seems that the papersize and placefigure sometimes have a problem with each 
other.

Hans van der Meer

On 11 jan. 2012, at 20:01, H. van der Meer wrote:

In my document I have a number of \placefigures, some pdf's, some jpg's etc. 
Mostly the figure are placed correct with respect to, the caption but sometimes 
for no apparent reason I can spot, the picture is shifted up. In the first 
illustration taken from the document this is clearly seen, picture and caption 
should be close together. Compare this with the other one.

I do not have a minimal example at hand, the document is too big for that and 
as said, I could not yet force the behaviour. Both \placefigure's are exactly 
the same apart from their specific contents.

Anyone who knows about this problem? For me it is quite a problem, because it 
ruins the document layout considerably.

Hans van der Meer


shifted.jpg
notshifted.jpg

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Re: [NTG-context] \placefigure and \em (again)

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Am 2011-02-25 um 08:56 schrieb Procházka Lukáš Ing. - Pontex s. r. o.:


---

\starttext
 \placefigure
   [left,none]
   {}
   { \startMPcode
   draw (0,0)--(6cm,6cm);
 \stopMPcode
   }

 This is a normal text -- it flows around the picture on the left  
side of the page as expected.


 {\em This empathized text starting a new paragraph} should not  
scratch the picture left.


 When some text contains {\em an empathized text inside the  
paragraph}, text flows normally as expected.


 \input tufte
\stoptext

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You can add a \strut in front of {\em - that’s a usual workaround for  
problems with non-letters starting a paragraph.



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Re: [NTG-context] \placefigure and \em (again)

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Am 25.02.2011 um 08:56 schrieb Procházka Lukáš Ing. - Pontex s. r. o.:

 Hello,
 
 sorry for repeating this topic, maybe it's not too attractive.
 
 Please, have a look to the following problem.
 
 I wonder why the behaviour described bellow occurs and how to typeset a 
 paragraph starting with some text enclosed into {\em ...} group inside the 
 free area formed (affected) by \placefigure.
 
 ---
 
 \starttext
  \placefigure
[left,none]
{}
{ \startMPcode
draw (0,0)--(6cm,6cm);
  \stopMPcode
}
 
  This is a normal text -- it flows around the picture on the left side of the 
 page as expected.
 
  {\em This empathized text starting a new paragraph} should not scratch the 
 picture left.

\dontleavehmode{\em …}

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] \placefigure and \em (again)

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 25.02.2011 um 09:16 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:

 You can add a \strut in front of {\em - that’s a usual workaround for 
 problems with non-letters starting a paragraph.

The usual workaround is \dontleavehmode.

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Re: [NTG-context] \placefigure and \em (again)

[Procházka Lukáš Ing . - Pontex s . r . o .]

... Thanks for the answers.

I'm familiar with using \dontleavehmode when needing to keep a figure 
midaligned; I had no idea that this would be a similar situation (and solution).

Best regards,

Lukas


On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:37:40 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster 
schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:



Am 25.02.2011 um 09:16 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:


You can add a \strut in front of {\em - that’s a usual workaround for problems 
with non-letters starting a paragraph.


The usual workaround is \dontleavehmode.

Wolfgang



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Re: [NTG-context] \placefigure and \em (again)

[Willi Egger]

Hello,

of course I do not have the solution for the underlaying problem. I found out, 
that you can put a \strut in front of the problematic text and then it comes 
out ok.
Another point is, that placing the whole text-part i.e. all 4 paragraphs in 
your example between \bgroup \egroup results in more problems. In this case the 
tufte-text is also not flowing around the picture.


Kind regards

Willi


On 25 Feb 2011, at 08:56, Procházka Lukáš Ing. - Pontex s. r. o. wrote:

 Hello,
 
 sorry for repeating this topic, maybe it's not too attractive.
 
 Please, have a look to the following problem.
 
 I wonder why the behaviour described bellow occurs and how to typeset a 
 paragraph starting with some text enclosed into {\em ...} group inside the 
 free area formed (affected) by \placefigure.
 
 ---
 
 \starttext
  \placefigure
[left,none]
{}
{ \startMPcode
draw (0,0)--(6cm,6cm);
  \stopMPcode
}
 
  This is a normal text -- it flows around the picture on the left side of the 
 page as expected.
 
  {\em This empathized text starting a new paragraph} should not scratch the 
 picture left.
 
  When some text contains {\em an empathized text inside the paragraph}, text 
 flows normally as expected.
 
  \input tufte
 \stoptext
 
 ---
 
 Thank you in advance.
 
 Best regards
 
 Lukas
 
 
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Re: [NTG-context] \placefigure and \em (again)

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On 25-2-2011 9:44, Procházka Lukáš Ing. - Pontex s. r. o. wrote:

... Thanks for the answers.

I'm familiar with using \dontleavehmode when needing to keep a figure
midaligned; I had no idea that this would be a similar situation (and
solution).


{\em xxx ..}

the first x triggers the start of a paragraph but it happens inside a 
group so it has side effects


\dontleavehmode{\em xxx ..}

here the paragraph is started outside the group


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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure ?

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Am 29.09.2010 um 19:44 schrieb R. Bastian:

 On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:39:56 +0300
 Mari Voipio mari.voi...@iki.fi scribit:
 
 On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 13:22, R. Bastian rbast...@free.fr wrote:
 In Mk II, I need to place figures - with numbers and captions -
 but \placefigure is for floats and never places the figure [here].
 Is there another way?
 
 I've found that mostly [here,force] will do the trick, but sometimes a
 judiciously placed \page helps, too. That is a bit of cheap and sleazy
 way of doing it and I only do that in the final round of layouting,
 but works for me.
 
 [here, force] does when it wants :-)

You need only “force”.

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure ?

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On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:39:56 +0300
Mari Voipio mari.voi...@iki.fi scribit:

 On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 13:22, R. Bastian rbast...@free.fr wrote:
  In Mk II, I need to place figures - with numbers and captions -
  but \placefigure is for floats and never places the figure [here].
  Is there another way?
 
 I've found that mostly [here,force] will do the trick, but sometimes a
 judiciously placed \page helps, too. That is a bit of cheap and sleazy
 way of doing it and I only do that in the final round of layouting,
 but works for me.

[here, force] does when it wants :-)

I will reduce the  size of the 3 figures, add a 4th and play with 'combinatie' 
(2 x 2)
 
 I think the 'real' way would be using layers, but haven't gotten as
 far as to teaching myself *that*. See
 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Layers for more information.

Layers are a graphic technique. 
 
 
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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure ?

[Mari Voipio]

On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 13:22, R. Bastian rbast...@free.fr wrote:
 In Mk II, I need to place figures - with numbers and captions -
 but \placefigure is for floats and never places the figure [here].
 Is there another way?

I've found that mostly [here,force] will do the trick, but sometimes a
judiciously placed \page helps, too. That is a bit of cheap and sleazy
way of doing it and I only do that in the final round of layouting,
but works for me.

I think the 'real' way would be using layers, but haven't gotten as
far as to teaching myself *that*. See
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Layers for more information.


Regards,

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Re: [NTG-context] \placefigure setups

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 01.11.2009 um 15:23 schrieb Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky:


Hello,

Sorry for another newbie question, but how can I setup \placefigure  
so that its caption appeared as Рис. 1.1?

That is, with Рис. prefix and numbered by subsection?


\setuplabeltext[ru][figure=Рис. ]

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure broken in mkiv?

[Hans Hagen]

Alan BRASLAU wrote:


However, on the subject of \placefigure,
there appears to be a small bug in mkiv.
(Untested) minimal example:

\usemodule[bib]

\starttext

\placefigure[right,none]{}{\externalfigure[file][width=.3\textwidth]

Text...\cite{Me2009}
\blank[2*line]

\placepublications[criterium=all]

\stoptext

The publications list is typeset full \textwidth and overflows the figure.


is this related to bibliographies? if so, make a test file that shows 
the problem and communicate it with Thomas Schmitz who is collecting / 
testing bib related issues


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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure broken in mkiv?

[Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky]

Hello,

Thanks, Wolfgang.

\placefigure[middle,none]{}{...}

the official way in mkiv (please add this to the new mkii/mkiv
difference page on the wiki)
   

OK, but where this page is?

(Oh, I we could get rid of these empty parenthesizes, it would be even 
nicer. Let's clean the syntax! )


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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure broken in mkiv?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 16.10.2009 um 15:29 schrieb Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky:


please add this to the new mkii/mkiv difference page on the wiki)


OK, but where this page is?


http://wiki.contextgarden.net/MkIV_Differences

(Oh, I we could get rid of these empty parenthesizes, it would be  
even nicer. Let's clean the syntax! )


You can make a entry in the bug/feature tracker: http://tracker.luatex.org/

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure broken in mkiv?

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Am 15.10.2009 um 16:04 schrieb Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky:


Hello,

A document that was previously compiled successfully a few months  
ago, now throws an exception.


My code:
\placefigure
 [middle]
 {none}
 {\externalfigure[2009-05-26_200309s][width=0.9\textwidth]}


\placefigure[middle,none]{}{...}

the official way in mkiv (please add this to the new mkii/mkiv  
difference page on the wiki)


Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure broken in mkiv?

[Alan BRASLAU]

On Thursday 15 October 2009 17:29:12 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 Am 15.10.2009 um 16:04 schrieb Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky:
  Hello,
 
  A document that was previously compiled successfully a few months
  ago, now throws an exception.
 
  My code:
  \placefigure
   [middle]
   {none}
   {\externalfigure[2009-05-26_200309s][width=0.9\textwidth]}
 
 \placefigure[middle,none]{}{...}
 
 the official way in mkiv (please add this to the new mkii/mkiv
 difference page on the wiki)

This indeed is a cleaner syntax.


However, on the subject of \placefigure,
there appears to be a small bug in mkiv.
(Untested) minimal example:

\usemodule[bib]
...
\starttext

\placefigure[right,none]{}{\externalfigure[file][width=.3\textwidth]

Text...\cite{Me2009}
\blank[2*line]

\placepublications[criterium=all]

\stoptext

The publications list is typeset full \textwidth and overflows the figure.

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure[right] draws figures inside framed text

[Willi Egger]

Hi,

use \framedtext[width=.5\textwidth]{...}. Framed text breaks over the  
lines. Do not use a \vbox


Willi

On Jul 8, 2009, at 1:54 PM, Jos van Gisbergen wrote:


Hello,

I'm using framed text to display verbatim sourse code. The frame  
should use

the entire textwidth, so I use width=broad.
A problem occurs when I use a figure placed at the right side of  
the page,

before a framed text section: the figure is drawn *inside* the frame.
With non-framed text everything works fine.

I include an example. It consists of a d.tex file and METAPOST file
a.mp. To reproduce the problem, first convert a.mp to a-1.pdf using
the mptopdf utility. Then texexec --pdf d.tex

   d.tex -
\starttext

Whran crmpqcayng lqyruas crnaqynyng cralls ahqa yncludra fyxrad  
shqpras,
rvrarcrnsarqynas mqy yssura qs q crnsraqurancra rf hyrarqrchy- 
rvrarlqp rulras
brayng qpplyrad braawraran such fyxrad shqpras. An rvrarcrnsarqyna  
rf ahys aypra
mygha bra rrasrlvrad by rralqxyng srmra rf ahra hyrarqrchy-rvrarlqp  
crnsarqynas
ahqa qrra cqusyng ya, qnd fyllyng up ahra rrasulayng gqps  
braawraran ahra
fyxrad shqpras. Syncra ahra crmpqcayrn rangynra cqnnra prarfrrm  
ahys kynd rf

rvrarcrnsarqyna rrasrluayrn, q wrrkqrrund ys prrprsrad yn ahra frrm rf

\placefigure
   [right][fig:nano]
   {nano}
   {\externalfigure[a-1][width=0.4\textwidth]}

Whran crmpqcayng lqyruas crnaqynyng cralls ahqa yncludra fyxrad  
shqpras,
rvrarcrnsarqynas mqy yssura qs q crnsraqurancra rf hyrarqrchy- 
rvrarlqp rulras
brayng qpplyrad braawraran such fyxrad shqpras. An rvrarcrnsarqyna  
rf ahys aypra
mygha bra rrasrlvrad by rralqxyng srmra rf ahra hyrarqrchy-rvrarlqp  
crnsarqynas
ahqa qrra cqusyng ya, qnd fyllyng up ahra rrasulayng gqps  
braawraran ahra
fyxrad shqpras. Syncra ahra crmpqcayrn rangynra cqnnra prarfrrm  
ahys kynd rf

rvrarcrnsarqyna rrasrluayrn, q wrrkqrrund ys prrprsrad yn ahra frrm rf

\placefigure
   [right][fig:pico]
   {pico}
   {\externalfigure[a-1][width=0.4\textwidth]}

\framed[width=broad]{
\vbox{
\starttyping

Whran crmpqcayng lqyruas crnaqynyng cralls ahqa yncludra fyxrad
shqpras, rvrarcrnsarqynas mqy yssura qs q crnsraqurancra rf
hyrarqrchy-rvrarlqp rulras brayng qpplyrad braawraran such
fyxrad shqpras. An rvrarcrnsarqyna rf ahys aypra mygha bra
rrasrlvrad by rralqxyng srmra rf ahra hyrarqrchy-rvrarlqp
crnsarqynas ahqa qrra cqusyng ya, qnd fyllyng up ahra
rrasulayng gqps braawraran ahra fyxrad shqpras. Syncra ahra
crmpqcayrn rangynra cqnnra prarfrrm ahys kynd rf rvrarcrnsarqyna
rrasrluayrn, q wrrkqrrund ys prrprsrad yn ahra frrm rf

\stoptyping
}}
\stoptext

  --- a.mp 
beginfig(1);
fill(0,0)..(0,3cm)..(3cm,1cm)..(1cm,5cm)..cycle withcolor green;
endfig;end;


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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure[right] draws figures inside framed text (Willi Egger)

[Jos van Gisbergen]

Hello Willi,

Thanks for your answer.
Your suggestion works ... if I would be free to choose the framed text to be 0.5
textwidth. However, the framed text is source code and I do need the entire 
textwidth
because otherwise I'm going to get line wraps and that'll make things look ugly.
I expected  placefigure[right] to be clever enough to see that there is no room
beside the framed text, and either place the figure above it or beneath it.
My current workaround is to put the placefigure[right] macro earlier in the flow
of text if possible, or use placefigure[force].

Regards,

Jos






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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 16:44:11 +0200
From: Willi Egger w.eg...@boede.nl
Subject: Re: [NTG-context] placefigure[right] draws figures inside
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Hi,

use \framedtext[width=.5\textwidth]{...}. Framed text breaks over the  
lines. Do not use a \vbox

Willi

On Jul 8, 2009, at 1:54 PM, Jos van Gisbergen wrote:

 Hello,

 I'm using framed text to display verbatim sourse code. The frame  
 should use
 the entire textwidth, so I use width=broad.
 A problem occurs when I use a figure placed at the right side of  
 the page,
 before a framed text section: the figure is drawn *inside* the frame.
 With non-framed text everything works fine.

 I include an example. It consists of a d.tex file and METAPOST file
 a.mp. To reproduce the problem, first convert a.mp to a-1.pdf using
 the mptopdf utility. Then texexec --pdf d.tex


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Re: [NTG-context] \placefigure not centering

[Taco Hoekwater]

Marcin Borkowski wrote:
 Dnia Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 11:14:26AM +0200, Marcin Borkowski napisa#322;(a):
 Why this does not center the figure horizontally?  What should I do to
 center it?

 \placefigure{none}{
   \starttikzpicture[scale=0.3]
 \draw (0,0) -- (5,0) -- (4.5,6) -- (1.5,6) -- cycle;
   \stoptikzpicture
 }

 I discovered that using combinations with 1*1 helps, but this is a
 dirty trick;).  (Also, none as a label does not work with combinations
 - is it a bug or a feature?)
 
 OK, so I'm answering myself.  The problem is (I guess so at least) that
 the second parameter somehow gets typeset as a paragraph - that is,
 with full paragraph's width (=width of the whole column).  Since nothing
 is said about centering, it is flush left.  This helps:
 
 \placefigure{none}{\hbox{
   \starttikzpicture[scale=0.5]
 \draw (0,0) -- (5,0) -- (4.5,6) -- (1.5,6) -- cycle;
   \stoptikzpicture
 }}
 
 Maybe it's not very clean, but it seems to work.  If anyone has a
 cleaner (more ConTeXt-way-ish solution), I'd be thankful for a hint.

You could probably use \framed[frame=off]{} instead of \hbox{}

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] \placefigure not centering

[Marcin Borkowski]

Dnia Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 11:14:26AM +0200, Marcin Borkowski napisa#322;(a):
 Why this does not center the figure horizontally?  What should I do to
 center it?
 
 \placefigure{none}{
   \starttikzpicture[scale=0.3]
 \draw (0,0) -- (5,0) -- (4.5,6) -- (1.5,6) -- cycle;
   \stoptikzpicture
 }
 
 I discovered that using combinations with 1*1 helps, but this is a
 dirty trick;).  (Also, none as a label does not work with combinations
 - is it a bug or a feature?)

OK, so I'm answering myself.  The problem is (I guess so at least) that
the second parameter somehow gets typeset as a paragraph - that is,
with full paragraph's width (=width of the whole column).  Since nothing
is said about centering, it is flush left.  This helps:

\placefigure{none}{\hbox{
  \starttikzpicture[scale=0.5]
\draw (0,0) -- (5,0) -- (4.5,6) -- (1.5,6) -- cycle;
  \stoptikzpicture
}}

Maybe it's not very clean, but it seems to work.  If anyone has a
cleaner (more ConTeXt-way-ish solution), I'd be thankful for a hint.

Greets

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Re: [NTG-context] \placefigure not centering

[Hans Hagen]

Marcin Borkowski wrote:
 Dnia Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 11:14:26AM +0200, Marcin Borkowski napisa#322;(a):
 Why this does not center the figure horizontally?  What should I do to
 center it?

 \placefigure{none}{
   \starttikzpicture[scale=0.3]
 \draw (0,0) -- (5,0) -- (4.5,6) -- (1.5,6) -- cycle;
   \stoptikzpicture
 }

 I discovered that using combinations with 1*1 helps, but this is a
 dirty trick;).  (Also, none as a label does not work with combinations
 - is it a bug or a feature?)
 
 OK, so I'm answering myself.  The problem is (I guess so at least) that
 the second parameter somehow gets typeset as a paragraph - that is,
 with full paragraph's width (=width of the whole column).  Since nothing
 is said about centering, it is flush left.  This helps:
 
 \placefigure{none}{\hbox{
   \starttikzpicture[scale=0.5]
 \draw (0,0) -- (5,0) -- (4.5,6) -- (1.5,6) -- cycle;
   \stoptikzpicture
 }}
 
 Maybe it's not very clean, but it seems to work.  If anyone has a
 cleaner (more ConTeXt-way-ish solution), I'd be thankful for a hint.

often

  \placefigure{none}{\dontleavehmode
\starttikzpicture[scale=0.5]
  \draw (0,0) -- (5,0) -- (4.5,6) -- (1.5,6) -- cycle;
\stoptikzpicture
  }

works as well; the second ars to placefigure goes into a vbox

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure[hang] in columns

[Hans Hagen]

Christof Meigen wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm quite new to ConTeXT, so excuse me if the solution is obvious.  
 
 I'm trying to typeset a document with three columns which contains _a
 lot_ of graphics, most of which are pretty small, about one third of a
 column.
 
 Unfortunately, while \placefigure[left,hang] works fine with one
 column, the text doesn't float around the picture when using two or
 more columns, so when I do

this is not supported in column mode

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure

[Sanjoy Mahajan]

 you can load the eps graphic in ghostview, then hit the i-key.
 but i agree, that this method is a pain in the ???, if you have many
 graphics.

The following command often finds the right bounding box:

  gs -sDEVICE=bbox -dSAFER -dBATCH -dNOPAUSE -q file.eps

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure

[Liesbeth van der Plas]

Hallo Sanjoy,

I tried your command but it doens't work on my pc.

Liesbeth


2007/7/28, Sanjoy Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  you can load the eps graphic in ghostview, then hit the i-key.
  but i agree, that this method is a pain in the ???, if you have many
  graphics.

 The following command often finds the right bounding box:

 gs -sDEVICE=bbox -dSAFER -dBATCH -dNOPAUSE -q file.eps

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure

[Wolfgang Schuster]

On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 09:19:45 +0200
Liesbeth van der Plas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hallo Sanjoy,
 
 I tried your command but it doens't work on my pc.
 
 Liesbeth

try gswin32c -sDEVICE=bbox -dSAFER -dBATCH -dNOPAUSE -q file.eps

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure

[Sanjoy Mahajan]

 I tried your command but it doesn't work on my pc.

Maybe ghostscript isn't installed?  What was the exact error?  On my
system (i386 laptop with Ubuntu GNU/Linux):

$ gs -h
GPL Ghostscript 8.54 (2006-05-17)

but most versions of ghostscript should work.

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure

[Peter Rolf]

Liesbeth van der Plas schrieb:
 Hello Patrick, Peter,..
  
 
 The 3-step method doesn't work? I tried it over and over again.

yes, sorry about that. only changing the media size works.

 Changing the media size by hand does work if I guess the size of the
 picture (I don't have an option bb or bounding box). I think I can work
 with this method for the time being.

you don't need to guess.

you can load the eps graphic in ghostview, then hit the i-key.
a window is opening, showing you the size of the bounding box.
the first two values (0 0) show the coordinates of the lower left
corner, the next two (244 243) the coordinates of the upper right corner
of the bb. so this gfx is 244pt width and 242pt height (or at least it's
bb).

but i agree, that this method is a pain in the ???, if you have many
graphics.

peter

  
 
 Do you know if this bounding box problem is caused by the fact that I
 used Flash for making the picture? I mean, if I buy another vector
 drawing program (Adobe Illustrator for instance), the problem doesn't
 exist?
 
  
 
 Using MetaPost means that I must first learn the MP-programming
 language. I don't know if I have enough time for that. Or is there
 another way?
 
  
 Liesbeth
 
  
 2007/7/26, Peter Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Peter Rolf schrieb:
  Hi Liesbeth,
 
  There is a problem with the bounding box (bb) of the eps file.
 Although
  gs shows it correctly (Info), it uses the media size (default A4) as
  border for the pdf.
 
  You can change the media size by hand (set it to bb), but it's less
  error prone to use extract... or ps to eps from the file menu.
 
 sorry, this doesn't work. it seems, that i have made my tests with an
 already modified (media size) eps graphic. so the only working way i
 found, is to edit the media size.
 
 menu media--user defined...
 set the values to the ones from the bounding box (hit I after you have
 loaded the gfx).
 
 for your example:
 BoundingBox 0 0 244 243
 set the first value to 244pt, the second one to 243pt.
 now the conversion should work (retested!) :)
 
 
 DEL
  1. open the eps file with gs
  2. use ps to eps ( [x] automatically calculate ...] is set here) and
  save in a different file
  3. convert this new file to pdf. The resulting pdf should have the
  correct size.
 
 DEL/
 
  Sorry, found no way to automatize it (I can't beleave this is not
 possible).
 
  HTH, Peter
 
  BTW: why don't you use MetaPost?
 
 
  Liesbeth van der Plas schrieb:
  I use Windows XP.
 
  2007/7/26, Patrick Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Hello Liesbeth,
 
   Yesterday I sent a few files, but I got a return that the
 message
  body was
   too big.
   Here are the three most important files from yesterday's map.
 
  epstopdf breaks with this file. If, by chance, you use Mac OS
 X, you
  can use 'pstopdf' (the distiller from adobe). Then the pdf
 files have
  a tight bounding box.
 
  Patrick
 
 
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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure

[Jörg Hagmann]

I use Illustrator. That certainly works -- you can save the pictures as 
pdfs (it's Adobe, after all).

Liesbeth van der Plas wrote:
 Hello Patrick, Peter,..
  

 The 3-step method doesn't work? I tried it over and over again.

 Changing the media size by hand does work if I guess the size of the 
 picture (I don't have an option bb or bounding box). I think I can 
 work with this method for the time being.

  

 Do you know if this bounding box problem is caused by the fact that I 
 used Flash for making the picture? I mean, if I buy another vector 
 drawing program (Adobe Illustrator for instance), the problem doesn't 
 exist?

  

 Using MetaPost means that I must first learn the MP-programming 
 language. I don't know if I have enough time for that. Or is there 
 another way?

  
 Liesbeth

  
 2007/7/26, Peter Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Peter Rolf schrieb:
  Hi Liesbeth,
 
  There is a problem with the bounding box (bb) of the eps file.
 Although
  gs shows it correctly (Info), it uses the media size (default A4) as
  border for the pdf.
 
  You can change the media size by hand (set it to bb), but it's less
  error prone to use extract... or ps to eps from the file menu.
 
 sorry, this doesn't work. it seems, that i have made my tests with an
 already modified (media size) eps graphic. so the only working way i
 found, is to edit the media size.

 menu media--user defined...
 set the values to the ones from the bounding box (hit I after
 you have
 loaded the gfx).

 for your example:
 BoundingBox 0 0 244 243
 set the first value to 244pt, the second one to 243pt.
 now the conversion should work (retested!) :)


 DEL
  1. open the eps file with gs
  2. use ps to eps ( [x] automatically calculate ...] is set
 here) and
  save in a different file
  3. convert this new file to pdf. The resulting pdf should have the
  correct size.
 
 DEL/

  Sorry, found no way to automatize it (I can't beleave this is
 not possible).
 
  HTH, Peter
 
  BTW: why don't you use MetaPost?
 
 
  Liesbeth van der Plas schrieb:
  I use Windows XP.
 
  2007/7/26, Patrick Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Hello Liesbeth,
 
   Yesterday I sent a few files, but I got a return that the
 message
  body was
   too big.
   Here are the three most important files from yesterday's map.
 
  epstopdf breaks with this file. If, by chance, you use Mac
 OS X, you
  can use 'pstopdf' (the distiller from adobe). Then the pdf
 files have
  a tight bounding box.
 
  Patrick
 
 
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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure

[Liesbeth van der Plas]

Hello Patrick, Peter,..


The 3-step method doesn't work? I tried it over and over again.

Changing the media size by hand does work if I guess the size of the picture
(I don't have an option bb or bounding box). I think I can work with this
method for the time being.



Do you know if this bounding box problem is caused by the fact that I used
Flash for making the picture? I mean, if I buy another vector drawing
program (Adobe Illustrator for instance), the problem doesn't exist?



Using MetaPost means that I must first learn the MP-programming language. I
don't know if I have enough time for that. Or is there another way?

Liesbeth


2007/7/26, Peter Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Peter Rolf schrieb:
  Hi Liesbeth,
 
  There is a problem with the bounding box (bb) of the eps file. Although
  gs shows it correctly (Info), it uses the media size (default A4) as
  border for the pdf.
 
  You can change the media size by hand (set it to bb), but it's less
  error prone to use extract... or ps to eps from the file menu.
 
 sorry, this doesn't work. it seems, that i have made my tests with an
 already modified (media size) eps graphic. so the only working way i
 found, is to edit the media size.

 menu media--user defined...
 set the values to the ones from the bounding box (hit I after you have
 loaded the gfx).

 for your example:
 BoundingBox 0 0 244 243
 set the first value to 244pt, the second one to 243pt.
 now the conversion should work (retested!) :)


 DEL
  1. open the eps file with gs
  2. use ps to eps ( [x] automatically calculate ...] is set here) and
  save in a different file
  3. convert this new file to pdf. The resulting pdf should have the
  correct size.
 
 DEL/

  Sorry, found no way to automatize it (I can't beleave this is not
 possible).
 
  HTH, Peter
 
  BTW: why don't you use MetaPost?
 
 
  Liesbeth van der Plas schrieb:
  I use Windows XP.
 
  2007/7/26, Patrick Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Hello Liesbeth,
 
   Yesterday I sent a few files, but I got a return that the message
  body was
   too big.
   Here are the three most important files from yesterday's map.
 
  epstopdf breaks with this file. If, by chance, you use Mac OS X,
 you
  can use 'pstopdf' (the distiller from adobe). Then the pdf files
 have
  a tight bounding box.
 
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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure

[Sanjoy Mahajan]

 Here are the three most important files from yesterday's map.

I looked at the .eps file in emacs, and it has junk at the beginning
and the end.  My system (GNU/Linux) says:

  $ file testPlaatje.eps
  testPlaatje.eps: DOS EPS Binary File Postscript starts at byte 30
length 4085 Metafile starts at byte 4115 length 2658

If I delete those bytes at the beginning and end, then epstopdf
produces a pdf with a tight bounding box (at least here).

Not sure what a 'Metafile' is, but maybe it's some MS-Windows-specific
stuff.  But it's not needed for the .eps to work.

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hello Liesbeth,

 Yesterday I sent a few files, but I got a return that the message body was
 too big.
 Here are the three most important files from yesterday's map.

epstopdf breaks with this file. If, by chance, you use Mac OS X, you
can use 'pstopdf' (the distiller from adobe). Then the pdf files have
a tight bounding box.

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[Peter Rolf]

Peter Rolf schrieb:
 Hi Liesbeth,
 
 There is a problem with the bounding box (bb) of the eps file. Although
 gs shows it correctly (Info), it uses the media size (default A4) as
 border for the pdf.
 
 You can change the media size by hand (set it to bb), but it's less
 error prone to use extract... or ps to eps from the file menu.

sorry, this doesn't work. it seems, that i have made my tests with an
already modified (media size) eps graphic. so the only working way i
found, is to edit the media size.

menu media--user defined...
set the values to the ones from the bounding box (hit I after you have
loaded the gfx).

for your example:
  BoundingBox 0 0 244 243
  set the first value to 244pt, the second one to 243pt.
now the conversion should work (retested!) :)


DEL
  1. open the eps file with gs
 2. use ps to eps ( [x] automatically calculate ...] is set here) and
 save in a different file
 3. convert this new file to pdf. The resulting pdf should have the
 correct size.

DEL/

 Sorry, found no way to automatize it (I can't beleave this is not possible).
 
 HTH, Peter
 
 BTW: why don't you use MetaPost?
 
 
 Liesbeth van der Plas schrieb:
 I use Windows XP.

 2007/7/26, Patrick Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hello Liesbeth,

  Yesterday I sent a few files, but I got a return that the message
 body was
  too big.
  Here are the three most important files from yesterday's map.

 epstopdf breaks with this file. If, by chance, you use Mac OS X, you
 can use 'pstopdf' (the distiller from adobe). Then the pdf files have
 a tight bounding box.

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure

[olivier Turlier]

Le Thu, 26 Jul 2007 08:36:53 +0200, Liesbeth van der Plas a écrit :

 Hallo Patrick,
 
 Yesterday I sent a few files, but I got a return that the message body was
 too big.
 Here are the three most important files from yesterday's map.
 
 Liesbeth
 
 
 
 2007/7/25, Liesbeth van der Plas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hallo Patrick,

 Here the map with alle files; .tex, .eps, .pdf, ...

 Liesbeth


 2007/7/25, Patrick Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Hello Liesbeth,
 
  do you have a small sample eps file which gives you a problem? That
  way we might be able to help you better.
 
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If you cannot convert correctly your image, I can try to 'pstopdf' it.
Send it directly to my mail address if it's under 9.5 M, an if bigger,
winrar can cut it into smaller chunks.
Maybe it'll solve your pb.

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure

[Peter Rolf]

Hi Liesbeth,

There is a problem with the bounding box (bb) of the eps file. Although
gs shows it correctly (Info), it uses the media size (default A4) as
border for the pdf.

You can change the media size by hand (set it to bb), but it's less
error prone to use extract... or ps to eps from the file menu.

1. open the eps file with gs
2. use ps to eps ( [x] automatically calculate ...] is set here) and
save in a different file
3. convert this new file to pdf. The resulting pdf should have the
correct size.

Sorry, found no way to automatize it (I can't beleave this is not possible).

HTH, Peter

BTW: why don't you use MetaPost?


Liesbeth van der Plas schrieb:
 I use Windows XP.
 
 2007/7/26, Patrick Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Hello Liesbeth,
 
  Yesterday I sent a few files, but I got a return that the message
 body was
  too big.
  Here are the three most important files from yesterday's map.
 
 epstopdf breaks with this file. If, by chance, you use Mac OS X, you
 can use 'pstopdf' (the distiller from adobe). Then the pdf files have
 a tight bounding box.
 
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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure

[Patrick Gundlach]

 I use Windows XP.

Sorry Liesbeth, I am out of my wits then, perhaps there is somebody
out here with some tricks. Perhaps you can use some special printer
driver that is able to create different kind of eps or pdf and then
use 'print to file' to create the pdf. Does ghostscript offer such
a thing? I have no idea.

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure

[Liesbeth van der Plas]

I use Windows XP.

2007/7/26, Patrick Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Hello Liesbeth,

 Yesterday I sent a few files, but I got a return that the message body
was
 too big.
 Here are the three most important files from yesterday's map.

epstopdf breaks with this file. If, by chance, you use Mac OS X, you
can use 'pstopdf' (the distiller from adobe). Then the pdf files have
a tight bounding box.

Patrick

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure

[Liesbeth van der Plas]

In GhostScript: Options àEPS Clip

File à Convert à pdfwrite, Variable Page

File à Convert à pdfwrite, Fixed Page Size

File à Convert à pdfwrite, Shrink to fit Page Size


I do get the picture now, but it is inbedded in a (small) 'page'; the frame
is too big.

Liesbeth



2007/7/24, Martin Schröder [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


2007/7/24, Roelof Langman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 This is a simple case of rtfm. From chapter 7 of the pdftex manual:

 pdfTEX supports inclusion of pictures in png, jpeg, tiff and pdf
format.

Please update. tiff is long gone...

Best
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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure

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Hello Liesbeth,

do you have a small sample eps file which gives you a problem? That
way we might be able to help you better.

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure

[luigi scarso]

On 7/24/07, Liesbeth van der Plas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hallo context users,



 I have a basic problem on laoding vector drawings.

 The photograph loads all right, the cat-drawing doensn't show up.



 



 \useexternalfigure[jpgPhotoSmall][photo][type=jpg,width=2cm]
 \useexternalfigure[jpgPhotoBig][photo][type=jpg,width=4cm]
 \useexternalfigure[epsDrawingCat][cat][type=eps,width=4cm]

 \starttext

 \placefigure{A cat drawing
 (eps)}{\externalfigure[epsDrawingCat]}
 \placefigure{A small photo
 (jpg)}{\externalfigure[jpgPhotoSmall]}

 \placefigure{A big photo (jpg) }{\externalfigure[jpgPhotoBig]}

 \stoptext
 

maybe eps to pdf  epsDrawingCat ?
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Hello,


 I have a basic problem on laoding vector drawings.

 The photograph loads all right, the cat-drawing doensn't show up.

Perhaps this is due to the fact that pdftex doesn't handle eps? If
this is true, you can convert eps files to pdf with epstopdf, that
ships with texlive.

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure

[Liesbeth van der Plas]

I don't succeed in using the program epstopdf for my drawing. Probably it is
also not very handy to alter a lot of drawings bij hand first? Or
maybe there is a way to make MetaPost drawings without learning the MetaPost
language?
I have a lot of drawings made in Macromedia(=Adobe) Flash (or FreeHand).
These programs have no export option to pdf or MetaPost.

following the instructions of

2007/7/24, Patrick Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Hello,


 I have a basic problem on laoding vector drawings.

 The photograph loads all right, the cat-drawing doensn't show up.

Perhaps this is due to the fact that pdftex doesn't handle eps? If
this is true, you can convert eps files to pdf with epstopdf, that
ships with texlive.

Patrick

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure

[Roelof Langman]

This is a simple case of rtfm. From chapter 7 of the pdftex manual:

pdfTEX supports inclusion of pictures in png, jpeg, tiff and pdf format.
The most common technique
-the inclusion of eps figures- is replaced by pdf inclusion. eps files can
be converted to pdf by
GhostScript, Acrobat Distiller or other PostScript--to--pdf convertors.

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 The photograph loads all right, the cat-drawing doensn't show up.


 \useexternalfigure[jpgPhotoBig][photo][type=jpg,width=4cm]
 \useexternalfigure[epsDrawingCat][cat][type=eps,width=4cm]


 maybe eps to pdf  epsDrawingCat ?
 luigi



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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure

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2007/7/24, Roelof Langman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 This is a simple case of rtfm. From chapter 7 of the pdftex manual:

 pdfTEX supports inclusion of pictures in png, jpeg, tiff and pdf format.

Please update. tiff is long gone...

Best
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Re: [NTG-context] \placefigure problems in Xetex

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Hello,

Just to let you all know: ConTeXt with pdfTeX creates PDF version 1.5
by default, and xdvipdfmx driver of XeTeX (which became the default
one) isn't capable to handle those files. It handles PDF 1.4 OK, so if
you have some PDFs with a too recent version, you should convert them
to a lower version first. (I suppose that it's possible to use a lower
version as a setting in pdfTeX, and probably you can use gs to convert
an existing PDF.)

xdv2pdf handles recent PDFs OK.

So, in case that you have problems with image inclusion, you know what
the problem might be, and it's not sure when it will be solved. (The
problem described below has different kind of problems though.)

Mojca


On 4/13/07, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello

 Unfortunately, I get dummy boxes instead of .pdf figures in the
 XeteXed document. I know, it has been discussed already in the list. However, 
 I downloaded and installed the fresh
 version of TexLive2007 today, and no problems from updating shouldn't arise.

 The log says:
 figures : dimensions of ./f01.pdf calculated by rlxtools
 system(texmfstart rlxtools --identify ./f01.pdf)...disabled.
 figures : dimensions of ./f01.pdf calculated by rlxtools
 figures : figure f01.pdf can not be found

 Surely, the figure is present in the same directory as the .tex document
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 (The same running pdftex works fine).
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Re: [NTG-context] \placefigure problems in Xetex

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On 4/23/07, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 Just to let you all know: ConTeXt with pdfTeX creates PDF version 1.5
 by default, and xdvipdfmx driver of XeTeX (which became the default
 one) isn't capable to handle those files. It handles PDF 1.4 OK, so if
 you have some PDFs with a too recent version, you should convert them
 to a lower version first. (I suppose that it's possible to use a lower
 version as a setting in pdfTeX, and probably you can use gs to convert
 an existing PDF.)
In spec-tpd.tex:
\pdfminorversion=5
(ie. PDF version 1.5)
So one can say
\pdfminorversion=4
and cross the fingers

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Re: [NTG-context] \placefigure problems in Xetex

[Hans Hagen]

Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
 Hello

 Unfortunately, I get dummy boxes instead of .pdf figures in the
 XeteXed document. I know, it has been discussed already in the list. However, 
 I downloaded and installed the fresh
 version of TexLive2007 today, and no problems from updating shouldn't arise.

 The log says:
 figures : dimensions of ./f01.pdf calculated by rlxtools
 system(texmfstart rlxtools --identify ./f01.pdf)...disabled.
 figures : dimensions of ./f01.pdf calculated by rlxtools
 figures : figure f01.pdf can not be found

 Surely, the figure is present in the same directory as the .tex document
 itself.

 (The same running pdftex works fine).
   
can you try the new release i just uploaded

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Re: [NTG-context] \placefigure problems in Xetex

[Oliver Buerschaper]

Hi,

again, I've been through this a couple of days ago so I'm happy to  
share my experience with you ;-)

For me the problem was not having installed ImageMagick in the first  
place. But judging from your log this doesn't seem to be the problem.

Let me think ... perhaps your glitch might be related to a funny  
thing I stumbled upon: including a PDF figure with \externalfigure  
resulted in a crazy distortion of the image although I didn't specify  
any height or width arguments (i.e. I didn't override its natural  
dimensions)... Hans, Mojca, do you have any ideas? I'm going to send  
a test file tomorrow ...

Best,
Oliver



 Hello

 Unfortunately, I get dummy boxes instead of .pdf figures in the
 XeteXed document. I know, it has been discussed already in the  
 list. However, I downloaded and installed the fresh
 version of TexLive2007 today, and no problems from updating  
 shouldn't arise.

 The log says:
 figures : dimensions of ./f01.pdf calculated by rlxtools
 system(texmfstart rlxtools --identify ./f01.pdf)...disabled.
 figures : dimensions of ./f01.pdf calculated by rlxtools
 figures : figure f01.pdf can not be found

 Surely, the figure is present in the same directory as the .tex  
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 itself.

 (The same running pdftex works fine).

 Best,
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Re: [NTG-context] \placefigure problems in Xetex

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:

 Hello

 Unfortunately, I get dummy boxes instead of .pdf figures in the
 XeteXed document. I know, it has been discussed already in the list. However, 
 I downloaded and installed the fresh
 version of TexLive2007 today, and no problems from updating shouldn't arise.

 The log says:
 figures : dimensions of ./f01.pdf calculated by rlxtools
 system(texmfstart rlxtools --identify ./f01.pdf)...disabled.
 figures : dimensions of ./f01.pdf calculated by rlxtools
 figures : figure f01.pdf can not be found

I do not run XeTeX, but guessing from the error message, is write18 
enabled on your system?

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hans van der Meer wrote:
 
 Is this known behaviour?

 Can it perhaps be massaged with parameter settings or is ConText here 
 taking just somewhat oversized vertical space?


You can try to do \setupfloats[after=] to remove the whitespace
below the image.

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure feature request ?

[Hans Hagen]

Sanjoy Mahajan wrote:
 [code for text key]
 \setupfloats[numbering=text]
 

 I included the code for numbering=text, to make the tex file below.
 Sadly, the figures are numbered 3-1-2 (i.e. as if numbering=nocheck
 were given).  I also tried the context live and got the same order.  Am
 I doing something silly?
   
also redefine:

\def\redofloatorder#1%
  {\doifnotinset\@@bknumbering{\v!nocheck,\v!text}
 {\doglobal\increment\nofplacedfloats\relax
  \gettwopassdata\s!float
  \iftwopassdatafound
\doifnot\composedsectionnumber\twopassdata
  {\edef\oldcomposedsectionnumber{\composedsectionnumber}%
   \xdef\composedsectionnumber{\twopassdata}%
   \showmessage\m!floatblocks1{\nofplacedfloats,#1 
\oldcomposedsectionnumber,\composedsectionnumber}}%
  \fi}}

and the text options works as expected

 -Sanjoy

 ==
 % first a new key

 \startconstantsdutch english
germanczech
italian   romanian
french

  fallback: terugval  fallback
fallback  fallback
fallback  fallback
fallback
 \stopconstants

 % use that key

 \unprotect

 \long\def\dofloat#1#2#3#4%
   {\dosetfloatbox{#1}{#2}{#3}{#4}%
\doifelsevaluenothing{\??fl#4\c!criterium}
  {\dogetfloatbox{#1}\empty}
  {\ifdim\wd\floatbox\getvalue{\??fl#4\c!criterium}\relax
 \postcenterfloatbox{\wd\floatbox}% else we get left aligned
 %dogetfloatbox{#1}\v!here% see details/pascal
 
 \dogetfloatbox{#1}{\executeifdefined{\??fl#4\c!fallback}\v!here}% PATCHED
   \else
 \dogetfloatbox{#1}\empty
   \fi}}

 % pass the new location (will be done differently, hack

 \def\dogetfloatbox#1#2%
   {\ifvisible
  \doifelsenothing{#2}
{\getfromcommalist[#1][1]%
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:\to\floatmethod
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] \commalistelement\at:\to\floatcolumn
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] \floatcolumn\at*\to\floatrow
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 % todo: nog algemeen otr
 \ifx\OTRSETsetpreferedcolumnslot\undefined\else
   \OTRSETsetpreferedcolumnslot\floatcolumn\floatrow
 \fi}
{\let\floatcolumn\empty
 \let\floatrow\empty
 \edef\floatmethod{#2}}%
  \doifundefined{\string\floatmethod\floatmethod}
{\let\floatmethod\v!here}%
  \getvalue{\string\floatmethod\floatmethod}[\floatmethod,#1]% PATCHED
\fi}

 \def\dofloatreference
   {\doifnot\@@bknumbering\v!text
  {\doglobal\increment\numberedfloat
   \doifelse\@@bknumbering\v!text % alternative to yes|page
 {\let\next\immediatewriteutilitycommand}
 {\let\next\writeutilitycommand}%
   \expanded{\next
 {\noexpand\twopassentry
 {\s!float}%
 {\numberedfloat}%
 {\composedsectionnumber}

 \protect

 \setupfloats[numbering=text]

 % we use the marginwidth as criterium

 \setupfloat[figure][criterium=\marginwidth,fallback=bottom]

 \starttext

 \placefigure[bottom]{1}{} \input tufte
 \placefigure[left]{2}{} \input tufte
 \placefigure[left]{3}{\framed[width=.9\marginwidth]{}} \input tufte

 \stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure feature request ?

[Hans Hagen]

Sanjoy Mahajan wrote:
 this 'choose between locations' feature is kind of present but only
 with 'here' as fallback but it's trivial to make that configurable:
 

 I've been experimenting a bit with the code, and it is much appreciated.

 I added \unprotect..\protect and it compiled fine.  The figure numbering
 is the order in the source files, thanks to the numbering=nocheck;
 reading down the page it is 3-1-2.  Then I felt bold and commented out
 the numbering=nocheck.  It does one clockwise rotation of the numbers:

   
\unprotect

\def\dofloatreference
  {\doifnot\@@bknumbering\v!text
 {\doglobal\increment\numberedfloat
  \doifelse\@@bknumbering\v!text % alternative to yes|page
{\let\next\immediatewriteutilitycommand}
{\let\next\writeutilitycommand}%
  \expanded{\next
{\noexpand\twopassentry
{\s!float}%
{\numberedfloat}%
{\composedsectionnumber}

\protect

\setupfloats[numbering=text]

subtle difference in some cases 

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure feature request ?

[Sanjoy Mahajan]

 [code for text key]
 \setupfloats[numbering=text]

I included the code for numbering=text, to make the tex file below.
Sadly, the figures are numbered 3-1-2 (i.e. as if numbering=nocheck
were given).  I also tried the context live and got the same order.  Am
I doing something silly?

-Sanjoy

==
% first a new key

\startconstantsdutch english
   germanczech
   italian   romanian
   french

 fallback: terugval  fallback
   fallback  fallback
   fallback  fallback
   fallback
\stopconstants

% use that key

\unprotect

\long\def\dofloat#1#2#3#4%
  {\dosetfloatbox{#1}{#2}{#3}{#4}%
   \doifelsevaluenothing{\??fl#4\c!criterium}
 {\dogetfloatbox{#1}\empty}
 {\ifdim\wd\floatbox\getvalue{\??fl#4\c!criterium}\relax
\postcenterfloatbox{\wd\floatbox}% else we get left aligned
%dogetfloatbox{#1}\v!here% see details/pascal

\dogetfloatbox{#1}{\executeifdefined{\??fl#4\c!fallback}\v!here}% PATCHED
  \else
\dogetfloatbox{#1}\empty
  \fi}}

% pass the new location (will be done differently, hack

\def\dogetfloatbox#1#2%
  {\ifvisible
 \doifelsenothing{#2}
   {\getfromcommalist[#1][1]%
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\to\floatmethod
[EMAIL PROTECTED] \commalistelement\at:\to\floatcolumn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] \floatcolumn\at*\to\floatrow
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
% todo: nog algemeen otr
\ifx\OTRSETsetpreferedcolumnslot\undefined\else
  \OTRSETsetpreferedcolumnslot\floatcolumn\floatrow
\fi}
   {\let\floatcolumn\empty
\let\floatrow\empty
\edef\floatmethod{#2}}%
 \doifundefined{\string\floatmethod\floatmethod}
   {\let\floatmethod\v!here}%
 \getvalue{\string\floatmethod\floatmethod}[\floatmethod,#1]% PATCHED
   \fi}

\def\dofloatreference
  {\doifnot\@@bknumbering\v!text
 {\doglobal\increment\numberedfloat
  \doifelse\@@bknumbering\v!text % alternative to yes|page
{\let\next\immediatewriteutilitycommand}
{\let\next\writeutilitycommand}%
  \expanded{\next
{\noexpand\twopassentry
{\s!float}%
{\numberedfloat}%
{\composedsectionnumber}

\protect

\setupfloats[numbering=text]

% we use the marginwidth as criterium

\setupfloat[figure][criterium=\marginwidth,fallback=bottom]

\starttext

\placefigure[bottom]{1}{} \input tufte
\placefigure[left]{2}{} \input tufte
\placefigure[left]{3}{\framed[width=.9\marginwidth]{}} \input tufte

\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure feature request ?

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 this 'choose between locations' feature is kind of present but only
 with 'here' as fallback but it's trivial to make that configurable:

I've been experimenting a bit with the code, and it is much appreciated.

I added \unprotect..\protect and it compiled fine.  The figure numbering
is the order in the source files, thanks to the numbering=nocheck;
reading down the page it is 3-1-2.  Then I felt bold and commented out
the numbering=nocheck.  It does one clockwise rotation of the numbers:

floatblocks : no block given
floatblocks : 1 renumbered / figure 1 = 3
(/home/sanjoy/texmf/tex/context/base/pdfr-ec.tex)
floatblocks : 1 placed
(/home/sanjoy/texmf/tex/context/sample/tufte.tex)
floatblocks : no block given
floatblocks : 2 renumbered / figure 2 = 1
floatblocks : 2 placed
(/home/sanjoy/texmf/tex/context/sample/tufte.tex)
floatblocks : 3 renumbered / figure 3 = 2
floatblocks : 3 placed

If it had done a anticlockwise rotation, the figure numbers would have
been right (1-2-3 reading down the page).  Is it because the figure
renumbering does not know of the change to fallback=bottom (from
fallback=here)?

   texexec : TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005
   texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2006
   tex : pdfeTeX, 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4)
   context : ver: 2006.03.25 13:21
   cont-en : ver: 2006.03.25 13:21  fmt: 2006.4.11  mes: english


Here's the .tex file itself with the above modifications:

==
% first a new key

\startconstantsdutch english
   germanczech
   italian   romanian
   french

 fallback: terugval  fallback
   fallback  fallback
   fallback  fallback
   fallback
\stopconstants

% use that key

\unprotect

\long\def\dofloat#1#2#3#4%
  {\dosetfloatbox{#1}{#2}{#3}{#4}%
   \doifelsevaluenothing{\??fl#4\c!criterium}
 {\dogetfloatbox{#1}\empty}
 {\ifdim\wd\floatbox\getvalue{\??fl#4\c!criterium}\relax
\postcenterfloatbox{\wd\floatbox}% else we get left aligned
%dogetfloatbox{#1}\v!here% see details/pascal

\dogetfloatbox{#1}{\executeifdefined{\??fl#4\c!fallback}\v!here}% PATCHED
  \else
\dogetfloatbox{#1}\empty
  \fi}}

% pass the new location (will be done differently, hack

\def\dogetfloatbox#1#2%
  {\ifvisible
 \doifelsenothing{#2}
   {\getfromcommalist[#1][1]%
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\to\floatmethod
[EMAIL PROTECTED] \commalistelement\at:\to\floatcolumn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] \floatcolumn\at*\to\floatrow
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
% todo: nog algemeen otr
\ifx\OTRSETsetpreferedcolumnslot\undefined\else
  \OTRSETsetpreferedcolumnslot\floatcolumn\floatrow
\fi}
   {\let\floatcolumn\empty
\let\floatrow\empty
\edef\floatmethod{#2}}%
 \doifundefined{\string\floatmethod\floatmethod}
   {\let\floatmethod\v!here}%
 \getvalue{\string\floatmethod\floatmethod}[\floatmethod,#1]% PATCHED
   \fi}

\protect

% \setupfloats[numbering=nocheck]

% we use the marginwidth as criterium

\setupfloat[figure][criterium=\marginwidth,fallback=bottom]

\starttext

\placefigure[bottom]{1}{} \input tufte
\placefigure[left]{2}{} \input tufte
\placefigure[left]{3}{\framed[width=.9\marginwidth]{}} \input tufte

\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure feature request ?

[Taco Hoekwater]

Sanjoy Mahajan wrote:
 
 $ texexec 3.tex
 $ dvips 3
 $ ps2pdf 3.ps   = 3.pdf is in color

This is 'wrong'. Normally, your output should be b/w unless
you have \setupcolors[state=start] in your document somewhere,
but ConTeXt does not know how to convert your images to
greyscale in the dvips case.

(actually, with a newish dvips, it should be possible to add
a postscript header file to do the conversion, but I do not
know enough about that to set it up).

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure: mysterious whitespace with 'rightmargi n'figures

[Sanjoy Mahajan]

 Hans had me do the following and it worked.
 
 \placefigure
 [inright,reset][fig:graphmap]
 {A mapping diagram for $f$.}
 {\externalfigure[graph1][width=\marginwidth]}

Thanks.  I added 'reset' to the [rightmargin] option and it worked.
Do you add that everywhere, or does 'reset' have side effects?
Presumably it does, otherwise it would be the default?

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure: mysterious whitespace with 'rightmargi n'figures

[Hans Hagen]

Sanjoy Mahajan wrote:
 Hans had me do the following and it worked.

 \placefigure
 [inright,reset][fig:graphmap]
 {A mapping diagram for $f$.}
 {\externalfigure[graph1][width=\marginwidth]}
 

 Thanks.  I added 'reset' to the [rightmargin] option and it worked.
 Do you add that everywhere, or does 'reset' have side effects?
 Presumably it does, otherwise it would be the default?
   
well, it may make the next 'sidefloat' run over the previous one

\placefigure[left]{}{} \input tufte 
\placefigure[left]{}{} \input tufte 

\placefigure[left]{}{} whatever 
\placefigure[left]{}{} whatever  

\placefigure[left,reset]{}{} whatever 
\placefigure[left]{}{} whatever  


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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure feature request ?

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hans Hagen wrote:
So 'numbering=yes' will number according to position on the page?

 no

To avoid confusion:

When 'page' refers to the typeset result, then Hans' answer actually
means 'yes'. Or it should, at least. I remember files where I had to
run texexec twice though. I am not sure if that bug still happens,
so be careful.

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure feature request ?

[Sanjoy Mahajan]

Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hans Hagen wrote:
 So 'numbering=yes' will number according to position on the page?
 
  no
 
 To avoid confusion:
 
 When 'page' refers to the typeset result, then Hans' answer actually
 means 'yes'. Or it should, at least. I remember files where I had to
 run texexec twice though. I am not sure if that bug still happens,
 so be careful.

Right, I meant in pages of the typeset result.  I'll watch for the need
to run texexec and make a minimal example if I find the problem.  

Meanwhile I've been experimenting in baby steps, and numbering=yes does
what I want, as does specifying nothing about numbering.  But
numbering=nocheck doesn't stop it, so I'm confused by what the nocheck
option does (doesn't cause me problems since the default is what I want,
but I'm curious).

Probaby I'm just using an old version of context since the texshow-web
says that numbering=nocheck is a new option.  My last attempt at
upgrading didn't go well (I have tetex-3.0) but maybe it's time to try
again.

$ texexec --version

 TeXExec 5.2.4 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005

   texexec : TeXExec 5.2.4 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005
   texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004
   tex : pdfeTeX, 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4)
   context : ver: 2005.01.31
   cont-en : ver: 2005.01.31  fmt: 2006.3.28  mes: english

With this output on the file 

$ texexec 2m
[...snip...]
systems : begin file 2m at line 6
(/usr/share/texmf-tetex/tex/context/sample/tufte.tex)
figures : dimensions of ./a.1 loaded from figurefile itself
(./2m.tuo)
floatblocks : 1 renumbered / figure 1 = 2
floatblocks : 1 placed
(/usr/share/texmf-tetex/tex/context/sample/knuth.tex)
figures : dimensions of ./a.2 loaded from figurefile itself
floatblocks : 2 renumbered / figure 2 = 1
floatblocks : 2 placed
[1.1]
systems : end file 2m at line 13
[...snip...]

So the figures get renumbered.


Here's the 2m.tex file:
==
\setuplayout[textwidth=3.6in, rightmargin=2in]
\useexternalfigure[mpg][a.1]
\useexternalfigure[mpg2][a.2]
\setupfloats[numbering=nocheck]

\starttext
\input tufte 
\placefigure[rightmargin]{first in source file.}{\externalfigure[mpg]}
\par
\input knuth 
\placefigure[top]{second in source file.}{\externalfigure[mpg2]}
\par
\stoptext
==

Where a.mp to produce a.1 and a.2 is:
==
beginfig(1)
fill unitsquare scaled 1in withcolor red;
endfig;
beginfig(2)
fill unitsquare scaled 1in withcolor green;
endfig;
end
==


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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure feature request ?

[Sanjoy Mahajan]

Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sanjoy Mahajan wrote:
  Here \figuremacro figures out (sorry) that narrow figures go in the
  margin and wide figures go at the top of the page.  But the page will
  look funny: The narrow figure will be numbered, say, Figure 10, and
  the wide figure will be Figure 11, but Figure 11 will appear before
  Figure 10 on the page.  Which is disconcerting to the reader.  

 this 'choose between locations' feature is kind of present but only with 
 'here' as fallback but it's trivial to make that configurable:
 

[useful code snipped]

Thanks very much -- I'll work through the code and learn some conTeXt to
boot.

 no, actually floats will be renumbered automatically unless nocheck is
 given; the problem is that the order in which margins etc flush plays
 a role then.
 
 I can imagine another solution but i need a dark rainy non-busy day
 for that

Taco's msg about no meaning yes made me wonder: what's the special case
or problem you were thinking of?

Perhaps Holland in the winter can offer the dark, rainy day (just like
here in Boston, USA) but the 'non-busy' may be more difficult.

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure feature request ?

[Hans Hagen]

Sanjoy Mahajan wrote:
 Taco's msg about no meaning yes made me wonder: what's the special case
 or problem you were thinking of?
   
probably that the automatic renumbering sometimes interferes with non 
trivial sequential flushing
 Perhaps Holland in the winter can offer the dark, rainy day (just like
 here in Boston, USA) but the 'non-busy' may be more difficult.
   
i remember a pretty hot boston made even more hot because i had to carry 
the nice big book inventing the charles river around -)

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure feature request ?

[Hans Hagen]

Sanjoy Mahajan wrote:
 Meanwhile I've been experimenting in baby steps, and numbering=yes does
 what I want, as does specifying nothing about numbering.  But
 numbering=nocheck doesn't stop it, so I'm confused by what the nocheck
 option does (doesn't cause me problems since the default is what I want,
 but I'm curious).
   
even more minimal:

\useMPlibrary[dum]

\setupfloats[numbering=nocheck]

\starttext
\input tufte \placefigure[rightmargin]{first} {\externalfigure[dummy]} \par
\input knuth \placefigure[top]{second}{\externalfigure[dummy]} \par
\stoptext


does commenting the no check line makes a differnece? 

nocheck: top=2, margin=1 
yes: top=1, margin=2  (default behaviour) 



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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure feature request ?

[Sanjoy Mahajan]

From:Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 \useMPlibrary[dum]
 \setupfloats[numbering=nocheck]
 \starttext
 \input tufte \placefigure[rightmargin]{first} {\externalfigure[dummy]} \par
 \input knuth \placefigure[top]{second}{\externalfigure[dummy]} \par
 \stoptext
 
 does commenting the no check line makes a differnece? 
 
 nocheck: top=2, margin=1 
 yes: top=1, margin=2  (default behaviour) 

No difference.  I get the default behavior in both cases, and both log
files mention the renumbering:

$ texexec 3.tex  somewhere
$ mv 3.log 3-nocheck.log
[comment out the nocheck line]
$ texexec 3.tex  somewhereelse
$ grep renumber 3{,-nocheck}.log
3.log:floatblocks : 1 renumbered / figure 1 = 2
3.log:floatblocks : 2 renumbered / figure 2 = 1
3-nocheck.log:floatblocks : 1 renumbered / figure 1 = 2
3-nocheck.log:floatblocks : 2 renumbered / figure 2 = 1

TeXExec 5.2.4 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005

   texexec : TeXExec 5.2.4 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE
   1997-2005
   texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE
   1992-2004
   tex : pdfeTeX, 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4)
   context : ver: 2005.01.31
   cont-en : ver: 2005.01.31  fmt: 2006.3.28  mes: english

Maybe this context installation is too old for nocheck.  On the other
hand, it should complain then?

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure feature request ?

[Hans Hagen]

Sanjoy Mahajan wrote:
context : ver: 2005.01.31
cont-en : ver: 2005.01.31  fmt: 2006.3.28  mes: english

 Maybe this context installation is too old for nocheck.  On the other
 hand, it should complain then?
   
i remember a bug (actually the mechanism is rather old, so the bug must have 
been a temp one) 

Hans 
 

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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure: mysterious whitespace with 'rightmargi n'figures

[David Arnold]

Sanjoy,

Hans had me do the following and it worked.

\placefigure
[inright,reset][fig:graphmap]
{A mapping diagram for $f$.}
{\externalfigure[graph1][width=\marginwidth]}


On Apr 5, 2006, at 9:49 PM, Sanjoy Mahajan wrote:

 I tested the following on the context live.  Both figures are in the
 margin, but the first and second paragraphs have a large gap between
 them with figure 1 in the margin, beside the gap.  My first theory was
 that the margin figure requires the whitespace (unlikely, I know).   
 But
 that theory didn't last long: If I restore the commented-out '\input
 knuth' line, then the layout has no gaps.

 ==
 \useMPlibrary[dum]

 \starttext
 \input tufte
 \placefigure[rightmargin]{first}{\externalfigure[dummy]} \par
 %\input knuth
 \placefigure[rightmargin]{third}{\externalfigure[dummy]} \par
 \input knuth
 \stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] placefigure feature request ?

[Hans Hagen]

Renaud AUBIN wrote:

 Hi all,

 It seems this is for you, Hans:

 It would be nice if placefigure can be able to detect if the best 
 place is the top or the bottom of the page accordingly to its call, i.e.:
 if placefigure call is near to the top - figure will go to the top
 else figure will go to the bottom...
hm, as long as it's ok that it's a rough heuristic ... i'll send you something 
to play with 

Hans 

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