Re: [NTSysADM] NAS SMB server (QNAP?)

2013-10-29 Thread Jean-Christian Chevalier
QNAP appliances can be integrated in AD and it works well. You basically add it to your domain as you would a Windows PC. Then you can set up permissions for the shares you define on the NAS using AD groups and/or users. I have one in use at a small business since 2 years (model TS-459U-SP+).

RE: [NTSysADM] NAS SMB server (QNAP?)

2013-10-29 Thread N Parr
:07 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] NAS SMB server (QNAP?) SHORT VERSION Anyone here used the QNAP appliances as an SMB file server (Windows File Sharing) in an Active Directory environment? How'd it go? (Not as an iSCSI target or other block-level protocol.) LONG

RE: [NTSysADM] NAS SMB server (QNAP?)

2013-10-29 Thread Sam Cayze
Can it also act as a DFS share? From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Christian Chevalier Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 1:05 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] NAS SMB server (QNAP?) QNAP appliances can

Re: [NTSysADM] NAS SMB server (QNAP?)

2013-10-29 Thread Jean-Christian Chevalier
] *On Behalf Of *Jean-Christian Chevalier *Sent:* Tuesday, October 29, 2013 1:05 AM *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] NAS SMB server (QNAP?) QNAP appliances can be integrated in AD and it works well. You basically add it to your domain as you would a Windows PC

[NTSysADM] NAS SMB server (QNAP?)

2013-10-28 Thread Ben Scott
SHORT VERSION Anyone here used the QNAP appliances as an SMB file server (Windows File Sharing) in an Active Directory environment? How'd it go? (Not as an iSCSI target or other block-level protocol.) LONG VERSION I'm looking for what will basically be a network-attached disk drive.

Re: [NTSysADM] NAS SMB server (QNAP?)

2013-10-28 Thread Don Kuhlman
bad experience with them overall... Don K On Mon, 10/28/13, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: [NTSysADM] NAS SMB server (QNAP?) To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Date: Monday, October 28, 2013, 1:06 PM SHORT VERSION   Anyone here

Re: [NTSysADM] NAS SMB server (QNAP?)

2013-10-28 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Don Kuhlman drkuhl...@yahoo.com wrote: Sorry, I know that's not helpful, but I can at least say I didn't have any bad experience with them overall... Hey, from what I've seen of the cheap NAS space, Didn't burst into flame is useful feedback... Thanks.

Re: [NTSysADM] NAS SMB server (QNAP?)

2013-10-28 Thread Don Kuhlman
Sure thing - If memory serves, I think we had about 300 users hitting it at different times. Plus we did use AD auth from all the clients... Don K On Mon, 10/28/13, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] NAS SMB server (QNAP

Re: [NTSysADM] NAS SMB server (QNAP?)

2013-10-28 Thread Richard Stovall
I have two QNAP devices at $Work. One is dedicated as a B2D target for BackupExec and is doing essentially what you're talking about. It leverages AD for share permissions, and hasn't so much as burped since I set it up a couple of years ago. Another nice feature is that it 'just works' with

Re: [NTSysADM] NAS SMB server (QNAP?)

2013-10-28 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: No experience with the QNAP, but here's what I'd do. Get a refurb Dell server and stuff it full of disks. Put FreeNAS on it. Done. Apparently you missed this part: But management here is concerned that good Linux

Re: [NTSysADM] NAS SMB server (QNAP?)

2013-10-28 Thread Kurt Buff
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: No experience with the QNAP, but here's what I'd do. Get a refurb Dell server and stuff it full of disks. Put FreeNAS on it. Done. Apparently

Re: [NTSysADM] NAS SMB server (QNAP?)

2013-10-28 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Heck, if you want, they'll even sell you a commercial appliance that does the same thing, and the pricing isn't unreasonable.. http://www.ixsystems.com/storage/ix/home-office-storage/freenas-mini.html Doesn't look like a

Re: [NTSysADM] NAS SMB server (QNAP?)

2013-10-28 Thread Sean Martin
Perhaps your minions don't have the necessary experience because they haven't been given the opportunity. Sounds like your initial gut decision to go with a home grown solution would provide more than one benefit. - Sean On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [NTSysADM] NAS SMB server (QNAP?)

2013-10-28 Thread Kurt Buff
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Heck, if you want, they'll even sell you a commercial appliance that does the same thing, and the pricing isn't unreasonable..

Re: [NTSysADM] NAS SMB server (QNAP?)

2013-10-28 Thread Kurt Buff
I wasn't going to go there, because I've been in the same boat. Management is often shy Open Source stuff. I don't know what it is, but I've seen it enough to know that opening up for Open Source is not something management does very often, or willingly. It's a shame, really, as it does several

Re: [NTSysADM] NAS SMB server (QNAP?)

2013-10-28 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps your minions ... On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't going to go there ... http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3318/3251058133_44de524524_z.jpg -- Ben

Re: [NTSysADM] NAS SMB server (QNAP?)

2013-10-28 Thread Kurt Buff
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps your minions ... On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't going to go there ...

Re: [NTSysADM] NAS SMB server (QNAP?)

2013-10-28 Thread Matthew W. Ross
that in mind. Open source software does not have this problem. - Original Message - From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Sent: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 15:14:32 -0800 Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] NAS SMB server (QNAP?) I wasn't going to go there, because I've been

RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server-Budget Update

2013-06-24 Thread J- P
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server-Budget Update Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 03:27:45 + There are almost an infinite combination of possible bits of hardware you could purchase. My suggestion is you get some requirements – here are some categories that might assist you in gathering

Re: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server-Budget Update

2013-06-23 Thread Kurt Buff
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 6:12 PM, J- P jnat...@hotmail.com wrote: So , somehow the client doubled the budget to 10k So I am looking at the synology 3412RPxs and I am debating weather to purchase a new host box- or upgrade the the curent r300 to a full 24gb of ram- this would allow me to

RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server-Budget Update

2013-06-23 Thread J- P
So are you saying to not utlize the R300 Vshpere - and just get a VRTX? And retire the R300 Vsphere? Jean-Paul Natola Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 18:46:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server-Budget Update From: kurt.b...@gmail.com To: ntsysadm

RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server-Budget Update

2013-06-23 Thread J- P
i just figured getting the r3412 there would be no need for the VRTX- but if you have alternate options- PLEASE share Jean-Paul Natola Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 18:46:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server-Budget Update From: kurt.b...@gmail.com

RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-20 Thread Kennedy, Jim
And that it supports AD for permissions. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of J- P Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 8:56 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server So it seems like more folks ar3 leaning to the NAS

RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-20 Thread Richard McClary
They may call it CIFS rather than NTSF -- richard From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Link Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 8:18 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server Do they have NTFS permissions

RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-20 Thread Guyer, Don
: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Richard McClary Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 9:30 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server They may call it CIFS rather than NTSF -- richard From: listsad

RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-20 Thread John Cook
...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of David Lum Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 9:53 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server Unless it's a Buffalo Terrastation :( (or at least the version I have which is ~4 yrs old). From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad

Re: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-20 Thread Jonathan Link
, Don *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2013 6:37 AM *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server ** ** CIFS is the share from the storage (NAS/SAN) perspective. Once the server is connected to the CIFS share, you then apply NTFS perms to it, just like you would

RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-20 Thread Christopher Bodnar
@lists.myitforum.com Date: 06/19/2013 11:24 PM Subject:RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server Sent by:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com I'm not following the single point of failure this is what the end result will be -except the file/nas issue 1 Esxi host running 2 guets a) guest one win2012 dc b

Re: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-20 Thread Don Kuhlman
Same here on the Buffalo... blah :(Don KFrom: Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com To: "ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com" ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server Ding, ding...On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 9:53 AM, David

RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-20 Thread J- P
mentioned above Jean-Paul Natola To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server From: christopher_bod...@glic.com Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 10:25:22 -0400 For something that's just doing file storage I'd probably lean towards a NAS device. If you

RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-20 Thread Webster
[jnat...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 9:09 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server So Clearly Buffalo is out of the running, And 1 vote for each Qnap and Synology Jean-Paul Natola From: john.c

RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-20 Thread J- P
@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:07:17 -0700 Are there any other requirements you have before everyone makes suggestions? For a NAS device I like the Qnap devices. Since you were debating between a NAS and a Windows Server, why not look at a Windows

RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-20 Thread Woody Blackman
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server Are there any other requirements you have before everyone makes suggestions? For a NAS device I like the Qnap devices. Since you were debating between a NAS and a Windows Server, why not look at a Windows Storage Server type device

RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-20 Thread Mike Hoffman
: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server I was thinking of suggesting this... I use Server 2012 as a file share and an iSCSI target for my Hyper-V hosts in my lab and it's awesome. Also, the dedup of my file share has reduced the size by 54%. Can't wait for 2012 R2 so that I can also dedup my VHDX files

Re: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-20 Thread Andrew S. Baker
@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server ** ** Unless it’s a Buffalo Terrastation…. L (or at least the version I have which is ~4 yrs old). ** ** *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Guyer, Don *Sent

Re: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-20 Thread Andrew S. Baker
...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Webster *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2013 7:57 AM *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server ** ** I tried a QNAP NAS in my lab and even after getting ASB involved, we never could get the thing working the way it was advertised

RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-20 Thread J- P
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 12:49:04 -0400 Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com I'm not following the single point of failure With a single host machine containing X guests, any failure of the host machine would render all X guests inoperable until fixed. Best

Re: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-20 Thread Jonathan Kadoo
Natola -- From: asbz...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 12:49:04 -0400 Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com *I'm not following the single point of failure * With a single host machine containing X guests, any failure

Re: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-20 Thread Kurt Buff
:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server From: jonathan.l...@gmail.com To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Perhaps I should more appropriately say, is I would buy two and replicate data to the other device as a hot spare of sorts. On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Jonathan Link

RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-19 Thread Jon Harris
From: jnat...@hotmail.com To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:43:30 -0400 Company background, 30 yrs old, started with 2 guys, went to to computers in the late 90's had about 20 users, 1 W2k server and a 120 gb SNAP- Fast forward

RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-19 Thread J- P
, and of course I dont need to populate all the drive bays right away, heck there used to a 7200k sata1 mirror- Jean-Paul Natola From: jk.har...@live.com To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:51:19 -0400 I

RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-19 Thread J- P
] NAS or Server Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:07:56 -0400 Are you migrating the file/print to another machine? I am hoping you don't have anything on the Exchange server but Exchange. Jon From: jnat...@hotmail.com To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server Date: Wed

RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-19 Thread Jon Harris
fast they are going to move in that direction. Jon From: jnat...@hotmail.com To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:18:30 -0400 print yes, file is the other question, if I go to NAS do I need windows file server? wouldn't the NAS take

RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-19 Thread J- P
productions) doesnt increase much on internal (computer users) - Just trying to find a strong reason to either go NAS or Server Thanks again ASB Jean-Paul Natola From: asbz...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 22:32:49 -0400 Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-19 Thread J- P
From: asbz...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 22:32:49 -0400 Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com What do you think will be the usage in 3-5 years? If that's what you're planning for, then you need to have some idea of what that is. Frankly, for that size

Re: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-19 Thread Andrew S. Baker
reason to either go NAS or Server Thanks again ASB Jean-Paul Natola -- From: asbz...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 22:32:49 -0400 Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com What do you think will be the usage in 3-5

RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-19 Thread Jon Harris
I ran 6 to 8 clients on a Dell 2950 I think the model was 2 Xeon quads with 36 GB RAM and 1 TB of storage for the clients and 64 GB for the host OS. I had about 50 users attaching. Jon From: jnat...@hotmail.com To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server Date: Wed

RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-19 Thread J- P
...@kj.net.au To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 03:06:39 + You have a pretty small scale environment. I don’t see any reason why you can’t run additional guests *assuming* that you have sufficient physical resources to service

RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-19 Thread J- P
?? :) I should still be ok making it a print, dns or dfsr member? So in retrospect, i should get a synology and not deal with a new windows server? Jean-Paul Natola From: asbz...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 23:09:19 -0400 Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-19 Thread J- P
running exchange 2013 3. Windows 2008 physical member server running sql 2005- physical hardware The DC's are all on separate physical hardware- Jean-Paul Natola From: k...@kj.net.au To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server Date

RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-19 Thread Ken Schaefer
: Thursday, 20 June 2013 1:44 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server these are not a single physical running all guests 1 Esxi host running 2 guets - Physical Hardware a) guest one win2012 dc b) guest 2 citrix tx 2.windows 2012 dc physical (former DC/File

Re: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-19 Thread Webster
NAS or Server Thanks again ASB Jean-Paul Natola From: asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 22:32:49 -0400 Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com What do

RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-19 Thread Jon Harris
I think that was a low shot but I am not sure. Jon From: webs...@carlwebster.com To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 04:20:46 + Are you saying that ASB is now old? webster Sent from my iPad so please excuse all

Re: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-19 Thread Daniel Chenault
: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 11:01 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server So, if the motherboard in your Exchange server failed, then your Exchange service would still be available to end users? If you put additional services on that physical host (say, your

RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-19 Thread J- P
file storage ( and also run hourly backups on that) and to clarify , not taking shots at anyone, I'm reiterating my appreciation to Amdrew Jean-Paul Natola From: dani...@hotmail.com To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server Date

RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

2013-06-19 Thread Ken Schaefer
gathering requirements, then do ask and we can try to help you out. Cheers Ken From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of J- P Sent: Thursday, 20 June 2013 2:47 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server just trying