Re: [Nuke-users] Setting the color of a brush stroke in the RotoPaint toolbar

2016-12-19 Thread jean-luc
lol.. thanks Ned! First anyone ever called me a gentleman :) > On 20/12/2016, at 14:13, Ned Wilson <nedwil...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Jean-Luc, > > You’re a gentleman and a scholar. Worked like a charm, thanks! > > -n > >> On Dec 19, 2016, at 4:51 PM

Re: [Nuke-users] Setting the color of a brush stroke in the RotoPaint toolbar

2016-12-19 Thread jean-luc
Hi Ned. I’ve done something for the roto node but it works for the rotopaint node too. give that a go for i in nuke.selectedNodes(): tc = i['toolbar_paint_color'].getValue() if tc == [1.0, 1.0, 1.0, 1.0]: i['toolbar_paint_color'].setValue([0.0, 0.0, 0.0,0.0]) else:

Re: [Nuke-users] Reconnecting media Nuke studio

2016-12-02 Thread jean-luc
My pleasure! Glad I could help. The same thing happened to me. It's not so obvious! On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 at 17:55, Phillip Lange <phillipjla...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Jean-Luc > > I foolishly assumed that if I pointed it at the dir that contained both > the scripts and th

Re: [Nuke-users] Reconnecting media Nuke studio

2016-12-02 Thread jean-luc
Hi Phillip Are you reconnecting the rendered clip with the actual nuke script? If you are pointing to the images sequence, then it’s showing you the correct thing. If you want to connect the timeline clip to the script, you need to select the nuke script when you reconnect. then it would show

Re: [Nuke-users] FurnaceCore - Mostly Removed from 10.0v5?

2016-11-17 Thread jean-luc
This is what happens when the ofxplugincahce folder gets corrupted I have completely stopped using furnace because of that problem. furnace nodes disappear without warning. here is the reply from the foundry on how to get them back. It is not a permanent fix, if it happens again, you’ll need

Re: [Nuke-users] NeatVideo GUI problem in Nuke 10.0v4

2016-11-17 Thread jean-luc
Hi guys Thanks for following up. I do have Deadline on my machine so it’s likely to be the cause. > On 17/11/2016, at 23:58, Ben Woodhall <woodh...@thefoundry.co.uk> wrote: > > Thanks Abraham. Yes, that bug is still open. It could be the cause of the > problem Jean-Luc

Re: [Nuke-users] NeatVideo GUI problem in Nuke 10.0v4

2016-11-11 Thread jean-luc
a similar > issue with all 3rd party plugins, but only when launched from the terminal. > > Do you get an error message? > > Skickat från min iPhone > > 11 nov. 2016 kl. 19:10 skrev jean-luc <jlaz...@gmail.com > <mailto:jlaz...@gmail.com>>: > >> Th

Re: [Nuke-users] NeatVideo GUI problem in Nuke 10.0v4

2016-11-11 Thread jean-luc
Thanks for the suggestion. It doesn’t fix it, the name is still missing > On 12/11/2016, at 01:55, severin mathiesen <seve...@gimpville.no> wrote: > > What font is that? Doesn't look like that in my Nuke. Maybe change font in > Nuke? > > 2016-11-10 21:49 GMT+01:00 jea

[Nuke-users] NeatVideo GUI problem in Nuke 10.0v4

2016-11-10 Thread jean-luc
Hi There Just wanted to ask if anyone has seen this before I call on support to help me out. The NeatVideo plugin is losing it’s name in Nuke10.0v4 but works fine in earlier versions of Nuke… strange I know! Here are a couple of screen to illustrate: in nuke10.0v3 I see this: in

Re: [Nuke-users] Python Script Knob - follow up question

2016-11-01 Thread jean-luc
I might be missing something obvious but I don’t understand why you don’t use the ‘python script button’ in the ‘Manage user knobs’ It does all the hard work for you. You just paste you python script in the script box and give a name to your button and voila! > On 2/11/2016, at 07:37,

Re: [Nuke-users] rotopaint blur settings

2016-09-12 Thread jean-luc
oops, typo! It’s not Wooter’s hotbox, it’s Wouter :) http://www.nukepedia.com/python/ui/w_hotbox <http://www.nukepedia.com/python/ui/w_hotbox> > On 13/09/2016, at 07:18, jean-luc <jlaz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi J > > That’s great, thanks! > I did find the

Re: [Nuke-users] rotopaint blur settings

2016-09-12 Thread jean-luc
a different blur size for any reason (I find the default size of 15 to be too much 99% of the time) An other thing I was trying to figure out is how to activate the color picker in the paint toolbar with python. Any idea? Cheers! Jean-Luc > On 12/09/2016, at 19:21, J Bills <j

[Nuke-users] rotopaint blur settings

2016-09-11 Thread jean-luc
settings and it doesn’t explain why this doesn’t work, and I haven’t found any method that actually works. Jean-Luc ___ Nuke-users mailing list Nuke-users@support.thefoundry.co.uk, http://forums.thefoundry.co.uk/ http://support.thefoundry.co.uk/cgi-bin

Re: [Nuke-users] calling toolsets with python

2016-09-01 Thread jean-luc
r me. What sort of button?​ > > On 31 August 2016 at 22:21, jean-luc <jlaz...@gmail.com > <mailto:jlaz...@gmail.com>> wrote: > One more question > > > I want to make a button for the menu item Cache-> Clear all > > I found this in the documentation. If I

Re: [Nuke-users] calling toolsets with python

2016-08-31 Thread jean-luc
12:52, jean-luc <jlaz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > cool > thanks for that! > >> On 1/09/2016, at 12:28, Daniel Stein <daniel.st...@thefoundry.co.uk >> <mailto:daniel.st...@thefoundry.co.uk>> wrote: >> >> There is also a specific nuke.loadToolset

Re: [Nuke-users] Re: calling toolsets with python

2016-08-31 Thread jean-luc
cool thanks for that! > On 1/09/2016, at 12:28, Daniel Stein <daniel.st...@thefoundry.co.uk> wrote: > > There is also a specific nuke.loadToolset() method. > > On 31 August 2016 at 19:08, jean-luc <jlaz...@gmail.com > <mailto:jlaz...@gmail.com>> wrote

[Nuke-users] Re: calling toolsets with python

2016-08-31 Thread jean-luc
I found the answer (Thanks Frank..) You should be able to just use this CODE nuke.nodePaste() That's what the "File/Import Script..." option does through the nukescripts.import_script.py > On 1/09/2016, at 12:02, jean-luc <jlaz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi The

[Nuke-users] calling toolsets with python

2016-08-31 Thread jean-luc
Hi There I’m trying to add a node from the toolsets in Hotbox but the normal nuke.createNode(‘MyToolsetNode’) does nothing. Is there another python command for this? I was wondering if I should use the “insert comp nodes” functionsince the toolsets are nuke scripts. cheers Jean-Luc

Re: [Nuke-users] NukEStudio > "use comp" instead of "build comp"?

2016-05-30 Thread jean-luc
I just drag them in the timeline when I use existing comps. First I import them to a bin in the project window, then just drag them to the timeline on a track > On 31/05/2016, at 12:21, Frank Rueter|OHUfx wrote: > > Ah, so build track works with nuke scripts too cool,

Re: [Nuke-users] Rendering precomps in Nuke Studio

2016-05-26 Thread jean-luc
My pleasure! > On 27/05/2016, at 12:35, Phillip Lange <phillipjla...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks Jean-Luc, > > Thanks works a treat and will save me a lot of time. > > I'll have a look at deadline too, > > thanks again > > Phillip > > &g

Re: [Nuke-users] Rendering precomps in Nuke Studio

2016-05-26 Thread jean-luc
I haven’t tried it myself but I have thought of a way to do that. In the project settings you’ll find a ’Studio” tab. There you can change which write node will render to the timeline. So you could potentially change it to the pre comp write node and then change it back to the comp node once

Re: [Nuke-users] localised clips still not refreshing?

2016-05-22 Thread jean-luc
I reckon it’s just not working. I have tried changing the time setting to 1 min for the ‘check for updated files’ in preferences but it makes no difference. > On 23/05/2016, at 11:09, Frank Rueter|OHUfx <fr...@ohufx.com> wrote: > > Thanks Jean-Luc, > > but in the time

[Nuke-users] Re: create read node from write node

2016-05-11 Thread jean-luc
found it! I was looking for the wrong name it’s there: readfromwrite on Nukepedia http://www.nukepedia.com/python/misc/readfromwrite <http://www.nukepedia.com/python/misc/readfromwrite> > On 12/05/2016, at 13:04, jean-luc <jlaz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi all >

[Nuke-users] create read node from write node

2016-05-11 Thread jean-luc
Hi all I’m sure it’s an old thread and it’s probably on nukepedia somewhere, but I can’t find it. I thought there was a way to make a read node from a selected write node when you press R. Any pointers appreciated :) cheers! Jean-Luc ___ Nuke

[Nuke-users] Nuke Studio Timeline burn-in

2016-04-25 Thread jean-luc
Hi all I am trying to get the resolution of a clip printed in the timeline with the burn-in node. But no luck I have opened the metadata view and I can see a Media.Resolution key but I can’t figure out how to make it show in the burn-in. I have typing it in but it just stays blank Any idea?

Re: [Nuke-users] baked meshed and textures

2016-04-19 Thread jean-luc
:24, Randy Little <randyslit...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Normals maybe? Use normals node to make sure they are uniform? > > On Apr 19, 2016 6:07 PM, "jean-luc" <jlaz...@gmail.com > <mailto:jlaz...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Thanks Marten > > I tried usin

Re: [Nuke-users] baked meshed and textures

2016-04-19 Thread jean-luc
gt; wrote: > > You're correct - that mesh will need UVs. There is a UVProject node, but > getting exactly what you want may end up crashing Nuke as the 3d system is > not so robust. Probably better to apply UVs in Blender, Maya, Houdini etc > then use that. > > On 20 April 2016 at 08:1

[Nuke-users] baked meshed and textures

2016-04-19 Thread jean-luc
be hugely appreciated :) Cheers Jean-Luc ParticleEmitTest_v001.nk Description: Binary data ___ Nuke-users mailing list Nuke-users@support.thefoundry.co.uk, http://forums.thefoundry.co.uk/ http://support.thefoundry.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nuke-users

Re: [Nuke-users] render to timeline, frame range

2016-04-17 Thread jean-luc
Ok, not an overwhelming response but I have just logged a feature request on the support portal anyway. I’ll forward the ticket number once I hear back and you can add your voices to it. Cheers! Jean-Luc > On 15/04/2016, at 14:21, Mat McCosker <mat.mccos...@gmail.com> wrote: >

Re: [Nuke-users] stupid roto question

2016-03-31 Thread jean-luc
did you turn off auto key before creating the shape? if you have keyframes on your shape, right click on the shape and select No animation -> curve (all). that should take out all the keyframes. Then check that auto-key is off and it shouldn’t add any new keyframes when you edit the shape >

Re: [Nuke-users] python question for adding the local cache path in the proxy path

2016-03-22 Thread jean-luc
Randy S. Little > http://www.rslittle.com/ <http://www.rslittle.com/> > http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2325729/ <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2325729/> > > > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 6:30 PM, jean-luc <jlaz...@gmail.com > <mailto:jlaz...@gmail.com>> wrote: > I

Re: [Nuke-users] python question for adding the local cache path in the proxy path

2016-03-22 Thread jean-luc
Great! that’s working nicely. Thanks Tzuen All sorted :) thanks for the help to Hugo as well! > On 23/03/2016, at 11:39, Tzuen Wu <m...@tzuenwu.com> wrote: > > Try: > [string map {/Volumes /_Volumes} [knob file]] > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 22/03/

Re: [Nuke-users] python question for adding the local cache path in the proxy path

2016-03-22 Thread jean-luc
ong network. > > Randy S. Little > http://www.rslittle.com/ <http://www.rslittle.com/> > http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2325729/ <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2325729/> > > > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 6:06 PM, jean-luc <jlaz...@gmail.com > <mailto:jlaz...@g

[Nuke-users] python question for adding the local cache path in the proxy path

2016-03-22 Thread jean-luc
this in the proxy path: /localcacheFolder[knob file] it almost works except for that underscore thing. Is there a way to skip the first folder of the [knob file]? cheers Jean-Luc ___ Nuke-users mailing list Nuke-users@support.thefoundry.co.uk, http

[Nuke-users] using disparity map from third party

2016-01-11 Thread jean-luc
Hi all Has anybody used the stereo tools from black magic’s Fusion Studio? I was wondering if the disparity map is the same format as Ocula. As much as I’d like to buy Ocula for myself, I can’t afford the price tag. Fusion would be a great substitute. Is it any good? Cheers Jean-Luc

[Nuke-users] freezing the values of an expression based on the node input

2015-07-24 Thread jean-luc
made a user knob in the card3d where I can type in a frame number but I can’t find a way to include it in the expressions. Any clue appreciated! Cheers Jean-Luc set cut_paste_input [stack 0] version 9.0 v6 push $cut_paste_input Camera2 { translate {{curve x1 -46.86717224 -46.78176117

Re: [Nuke-users] freezing the values of an expression based on the node input

2015-07-24 Thread jean-luc
|OHUfx fr...@ohufx.com wrote: You are using tcl code rather than expression language which is not necessary. Just use something like Camera1.translate(refFrame) where refFrame is the name of your user knob that dictates the freeze frame. On 25/07/15 12:13, jean-luc wrote: Hi all. I’m

[Nuke-users] track roto with camera+card3D

2015-07-21 Thread jean-luc
I am doing a roto for a shot that has a camera. I used to be able to see at the roto shape and edit it directly in the viewer downstream from the card3D but its not working at the moment. I have attached a script to show what I’m doing. In the past, if I was viewing the output of the card3D

[Nuke-users] Re: viewer defaults

2015-07-05 Thread jean-luc
Oh and I forgot to ask, I also would like to get the list view by default in the project bins content list (instead of thumbnails) On 6/07/2015, at 10:03, jean-luc jlaz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there Is there a way to make the viewers default to TF (timeline frames) and in/out when you

[Nuke-users] viewer defaults

2015-07-05 Thread jean-luc
Hi there Is there a way to make the viewers default to TF (timeline frames) and in/out when you play a clip from a bin or open a project? I can’t find it in the preferences ___ Nuke-users mailing list Nuke-users@support.thefoundry.co.uk,

[Nuke-users] setting the motion blur node to default on center

2015-06-11 Thread jean-luc
I'm sure it's an easy one line of python but i can't figure it out. I want Nuke to use the center mode in all nodes that have a motion blur knob. I can figure it out for a specific node but i'd like it to be the default nuke wide Any help appreciated! Cheers Jean-luc

Re: [Nuke-users] setting the motion blur node to default on center

2015-06-11 Thread jean-luc
('ScanlineRender.shutteroffset', 'centred') -- Bruno-Pierre Jobin 514.445.4539 On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 7:06 PM, jean-luc wrote: I'm sure it's an easy one line of python but i can't figure it out. I want Nuke to use the center mode in all nodes that have a motion blur knob. I can figure it out

Re: [Nuke-users] H264 timing changes

2015-05-14 Thread Jean-luc
Yes. It looks different with mov32 or mov64. I noticed on short quick times too and even when they are generated in nuke On 15/05/2015, at 06:23, John Stewart li...@stewartvfx.com wrote: I am noticing on longer H.264 quicktimes read in nuke (not generated by nuke), that the timing of the

Re: [Nuke-users] NukeStudio and Yosemite

2015-03-16 Thread jean-luc
cool thanks On 17/03/2015, at 11:49 am, Marten Blumen mar...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure for Nuke Studio, but NukeX9.04 now runs fine. Gtx980/OsX 10.10.2 On 17 March 2015 at 08:39, jean-luc jlaz...@gmail.com wrote: Is anyone running NukeStudio on Yosemite? It’s still unsupported

[Nuke-users] NukeStudio and Yosemite

2015-03-16 Thread jean-luc
Is anyone running NukeStudio on Yosemite? It’s still unsupported on the Foundry website but I assume you would have to run it on Yosemite when you buy a new Mac. You’d have no choice. What are the issues if any? cheers Jean-Luc ___ Nuke-users

Re: [Nuke-users] question for Applescripts savvy people

2015-03-12 Thread jean-luc
That sound great. How about making it an option in the Nuke preferences? On 11/03/2015, at 8:58 am, Deke Kincaid d...@thefoundry.co.uk wrote: The autosave is just python. I know many people that modified the autosave to do 100 versions of it like Shake used to. -- Deke Kincaid Media

Re: [Nuke-users] question for Applescripts savvy people

2015-03-10 Thread jean-luc
9765 [Israel] url: http://ronganbar.wordpress.com/ On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 9:21 PM, jean-luc jlaz...@gmail.com wrote: Sure, That would work too. But I have no idea how to write python (or any other language, applescript seemed like a easy way to do it) On 11/03/2015, at 8:18 am, Ron

Re: [Nuke-users] question for Applescripts savvy people

2015-03-10 Thread jean-luc
thanks! On 11/03/2015, at 8:46 am, Quico Noizeux kee...@gmail.com wrote: Try with launchd, there is an app to edit tasks called lingon iirc. Cheers El 10/03/2015, a las 19:56, jean-luc jlaz...@gmail.com escribió: Hi All I am trying to have a small backup job run in the background

[Nuke-users] question for Applescripts savvy people

2015-03-10 Thread jean-luc
!) # if application NukeStudio9.0v4 is running then launch application Sync Folders else quit application Sync Folders end if ## Cheers Jean-Luc ___ Nuke-users mailing list Nuke-users

Re: [Nuke-users] question for Applescripts savvy people

2015-03-10 Thread jean-luc
that application as well? Ron Ganbar email: ron...@gmail.com tel: +44 (0)7968 007 309 [UK] +972 (0)54 255 9765 [Israel] url: http://ronganbar.wordpress.com/ On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 9:14 PM, jean-luc jlaz...@gmail.com wrote: yes that would work but you can only set a calendar alarm

Re: [Nuke-users] question for Applescripts savvy people

2015-03-10 Thread jean-luc
cool, that looks like a good solution. I’ll have a look. Thanks! On 11/03/2015, at 8:38 am, Ant Nasce a...@thefoundry.co.uk wrote: Hey Jean-Luc, Have you looked into a running a crontab job or using launchd? https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual

Re: [Nuke-users] question for Applescripts savvy people

2015-03-10 Thread jean-luc
can trigger it with a calendar alarm or a workflow in Automator. On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:56 PM, jean-luc jlaz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All I am trying to have a small backup job run in the background to keep incremental copies of the NukeStudio autosave files (I had a scare the other day

Re: [Nuke-users] question for Applescripts savvy people

2015-03-10 Thread jean-luc
nice! I think that’s going to b the one. Thanks Pete! On 11/03/2015, at 10:45 am, Pete O'Connell pedrooconn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jean-Luc. To run scheduled jobs on a mac launchd is pretty clean: http://alvinalexander.com/mac-os-x/launchd-plist-examples-startinterval-startcalendarinterval

Re: [Nuke-users] lock timeline??

2015-03-04 Thread jean-luc
if you have in/out points in the timeline, you could press f to zoom the timeline to your in and out. On 5/03/2015, at 11:33 am, Michael Clarke mclark...@gmail.com wrote: Hey All, new feature in Nuke driving me crazy. When scrubbing the time line I keep going past my in/out points; he

Re: [Nuke-users] Nuke 9- dag color prefs

2014-11-25 Thread jean-luc
I asked support about this and The foundry is aware of the omission and they have lodged it as a bug Go ahead and send an email to supp...@thefoundry.co.uk about it. If more people ask for it, it will get bumped up higher on the priority list! We are currently aware of this issue and have a

Re: [Nuke-users] Trouble with Projection Mapping

2014-08-01 Thread jean-luc
Have you tried increasing the the near clipping plane value in the render cam (and the projection cam) That does cause the geo to flicker sometimes On 2/08/2014, at 9:03 am, Patrick Heinen mailingli...@patrickheinen.com wrote: Digging this old thread out again, as I'm running into the exact

[Nuke-users] where is the untitled autosave file??

2014-03-02 Thread jean-luc
Hi there.It’s not a huge problem but every time open Nuke I get this message:I have no idea where the file is saved so I can’t get rid of it.I have the autosave path set to be in the same folder as the saved script. When I start nuke and play around without saving the script, it complains that it

Re: [Nuke-users] where is the untitled autosave file??

2014-03-02 Thread jean-luc
in the .nuke folder, named .autosave) On 03/03/14 11:47, jean-luc wrote: Hi there. It’s not a huge problem but every time open Nuke I get this message: I have no idea where the file is saved so I can’t get rid of it. I have the autosave path set to be in the same folder as the saved script. When

Re: [Nuke-users] Viewer Stereo mode shortcut

2012-02-02 Thread jean-luc
Hi J I meant the Stereo views (anaglyph or interlaced). It was already logged as a feature request, so hopefully soon.. Thanks! On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 5:48 AM, J Bills jbillsn...@flickfx.com wrote: hey jean-luc - I think it's ; and ' to switch between views (unless you mean something else

Re: [Nuke-users] projection solver and camera track

2012-02-02 Thread jean-luc
Thanks for the tip. It is a shame that we can't constraint the camera tracker to a geo, especially when we have a separate tool that does exactly that! Feature requested! Cheers jean-luc On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 5:57 AM, J Bills jbillsn...@flickfx.com wrote: I don't think Nuke has much

[Nuke-users] projection solver and camera track

2012-01-31 Thread jean-luc
? Or maybe use the camera from the projection solver for a given frame as a reference for the Camera tracker? Cheers jean-luc ___ Nuke-users mailing list Nuke-users@support.thefoundry.co.uk, http://forums.thefoundry.co.uk/ http://support.thefoundry.co.uk/cgi-bin

[Nuke-users] Viewer Stereo mode shortcut

2012-01-31 Thread jean-luc
Hi There Has anyone managed to create a shortcut for the viewer stereo mode? ___ Nuke-users mailing list Nuke-users@support.thefoundry.co.uk, http://forums.thefoundry.co.uk/ http://support.thefoundry.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nuke-users

Re: [Nuke-users] caching and localising preferences

2011-10-26 Thread jean-luc
if it gets mixed up. Another thing that would be great would be a button on the node (and a shortcut) to update the local copy. It looks like even when the localize is set to always or auto, it doesn't update the local copy until you manually do it. Is that normal behavior? Cheers jean-luc On Wed, Oct 26

Re: [Nuke-users] caching and localising preferences

2011-10-25 Thread jean-luc
, Peter. On 25/10/2011 03:25, Frank Rueter wrote: yes, I guess it's a good idea to manually remove the cache files when done. Don't think there is a mechanism built in for that (which would be a nice option though to keep your disk tidy) On Oct 25, 2011, at 12:45 PM, jean-luc wrote: Ok

Re: [Nuke-users] caching and localising preferences

2011-10-24 Thread jean-luc
wonder if it's going to slowly fill up my local disk until it chokes! Cheers jean-luc On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Frank Rueter fr...@beingfrank.infowrote: Hi Jean-Luc, you either have to set the Read nodes you want to localise to cache locally = always or set the local file auto-cache

[Nuke-users] Matching cameras in the Camera tracker

2011-03-20 Thread jean-luc
the A camera scene as a starting point and track the B plate from there? To be able to stabilise/track both takes with that setup, I need them to be in the same world space. I hope this makes sense. Any suggestion appreciated! Thanks jean-luc ___ Nuke-users mailing

Re: [Nuke-users] Matching cameras in the Camera tracker

2011-03-20 Thread jean-luc
that wrap this process up. (Tracker3d to 2d and to corner-pin.) Frank has a camera stabilise method which is very good, but the above done right will concatenate transforms so try either. Howard On 20 Mar 2011, at 22:06, jean-luc jlaz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi There Is there a way to tell