Re: [OM Cooker] Project state, future and the inevitable doom

2015-07-24 Thread Maik Wagner
Dear Per Oyvind, I must admit that I do not have such technical skills as you have but I feel that we have a certain brand with OpenMandriva and I am not sure if this Retro-Mandrake is going to work. I doubt it. Furthermore could you elaborate on things outside of Cooker such as manuals,

Re: [OM Cooker] Project state, future and the inevitable doom

2015-07-23 Thread Alexander Khryukin
I still not understand what Proyvind want. 2015-07-23 12:59 GMT+03:00 Guilherme Moro guilherme.m...@gmail.com: Can we at least get a proper official response from the OMA foundation? I fully support Per in his claims, and is obvious that just trying to hide from the situation and postponing

Re: [OM Cooker] Project state, future and the inevitable doom

2015-07-23 Thread Guilherme Moro
Hi, Can someone clarify to me if the Association has the power to withhold information like that? We want an official statement on behalf of the Association, and private channels were of no use? I'm asking politely for the decisions of the council to be made public, including the reason why POK

Re: [OM Cooker] Project state, future and the inevitable doom

2015-07-23 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
On 22/07/2015 15:26, Marja van Waes wrote: If so, I'll be renaming moondrake to mandrake, while still keep signing with the authentic Mandrake key in my releases and repos,,, Well, I hope at least that I spark a discussion and brought up the severity of the situation for people to fully

Re: [OM Cooker] Project state, future and the inevitable doom

2015-07-22 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
On 20/07/2015 20:49, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: If so, I'll be renaming moondrake to mandrake, while still keep signing with the authentic Mandrake key in my releases and repos,,, Well, I hope at least that I spark a discussion and brought up the severity of the situation for people to fully

Re: [OM Cooker] Project state, future and the inevitable doom

2015-07-22 Thread Marja van Waes
Op 20-07-15 om 20:49 schreef Per Øyvind Karlsen: With the funds OMA has, this project will only be able to cover server expenses for veryvery short time now... So something needs to be done,,, I personally have a 64 core system which outperforms the whole cluster nodes, which I'll be

[OM Cooker] Project state, future and the inevitable doom

2015-07-20 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
Hi! This is something I've been meaning to write for a long while, and most contributors has really wanted me to bring up.. Namely how this project since I was blocked from the project that got hijacked and illegimately decided to denounce me as the project leader,, And the consensus of majority

Re: [OM Cooker] Project state, future and the inevitable doom

2015-07-20 Thread Robert Xu
I've tried formulating decent responses to this email, but this email has become more counter-productive than it has any ability to trigger meaningful discussion. One of the most important qualities that a project leader has is that they have the support of those that they work with, and actively

Re: [OM Cooker] Project state, future and the inevitable doom

2015-07-20 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
No, this isn't deceptive, former president of the association can vouche for these events, and these has been problematic for long time. None of what I've written has been manipulating or deceptive.. A lot has gone on behind the scenes, and I challenge anyone who feels that what I wrote isn't

Re: [OM Cooker] Project state, future and the inevitable doom

2015-07-20 Thread Crispin Boylan
I'm not really sure why signing with the mandrake cooker key is of any importance other than mildly symbolic. and how would oma become a sub-project? Where is 'upstream' which would become the true cooker? I think if what you say is true regarding the future then obviously there needs to

Re: [OM Cooker] Project state, future and the inevitable doom

2015-07-20 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
I'm not talking about mutiny :) but keep in mind that our history and brand is our most valuable asset, What I'm talking about is that *old* cooker, not om-cooker being the main repo, for which OMV will of course have full acess to, but the symbolism is quite important, as this is like the only