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On 01.09.2011 23:01, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
Technically, this was to have been resolved before the code was put
up on SVN. We need to audit
: Michael Stahl [mailto:m...@openoffice.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 09:18
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Request dev help: Info for required crypto export declaration
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On 01.09.2011 23:01, Robert Burrell Donkin
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 4:11 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
Off-topic. Please drop this line of inquiry and
return to the Subject of this thread, which is
about determining required info for the crypto export
declaration.
Which is collecting a list of sources [1] :-)
OOo uses
-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Request dev help: Info for required crypto export declaration
Starting fresh. The more I look into this the more I'm starting to
think that the Apache export control instructions [1] are leading us
in the wrong direction.
From what I've been able to determine
-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Request dev help: Info for required crypto export declaration
Starting fresh. The more I look into this the more I'm starting to
think that the Apache export control instructions [1] are leading us
in the wrong direction.
From what I've been able
, September 02, 2011 08:01
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Request dev help: Info for required crypto export declaration
Starting fresh. The more I look into this the more I'm starting to
think that the Apache export control instructions [1] are leading us
in the wrong direction
for the list of places to identify in the code.
- Dennis
-Original Message-
From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 13:12
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: Request dev help: Info for required crypto export declaration
I'm
: Friday, September 02, 2011 08:26
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Request dev help: Info for required crypto export declaration
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
We're already behind the 8-ball on having not done this when
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
I'd rather not file false information with the government. Of course,
you are welcome to do so, if you think the need is urgent.
Can I cite that in my next indictment?
Don
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
I'd rather not file false information with the government. Of course,
you are welcome to do so, if you think the need is urgent.
Can I cite that in my
...@acm.org
Subject: RE: Request dev help: Info for required crypto export declaration
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Date: Thursday, September 1, 2011, 12:00 AM
It is simplified and it isn't.
But we are doing it out of order.
Here is the page that I couldn't remember the location of:
http
the java based
Bouncy Castle:
http://www.bouncycastle.org/
cheers,
Pedro.
--- On Thu, 9/1/11, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
From: Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org
Subject: RE: Request dev help: Info for required crypto export declaration
To: ooo-dev
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Rob Weir r...@robweir.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
snip
1) Was something similar every done for OpenOffice.org? Most software
companies are aware of this US export regulation and do
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Danese Cooper dan...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Rob Weir r...@robweir.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
snip
1) Was something similar every done for OpenOffice.org?
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
Please just do it this way:
http://www.apache.org/dev/crypto.html
ASF is very clear on what is required for *its* releases and this page
appears to be comprehensive.
The Apache rules break down into reporting
Subject: Re: Request dev help: Info for required crypto export declaration
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Danese Cooper dan...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Rob Weir r...@robweir.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
Please just do it this way:
http://www.apache.org/dev/crypto.html
ASF is very clear on what is required for *its*
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Rob Weir r...@robweir.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
Please just do it this way:
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Rob Weir r...@robweir.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote:
Following the instructions[3], step 1 is to work out whether OOo has
any unusual cryptography beyond ECCN 5D002, which is:
blockquote
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Rob Weir r...@robweir.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote:
Following the instructions[3], step 1 is to work out whether OOo
So in general OpenOffice supports encryption and digital signatures
and https/SSL. So we have support for standard algorithms, from
one-way hashes like SHA-1, to block encryption like Blowfish and
AES-256, to public key cryptography per the W3C's XML Digital
Signatures. We also support legacy
Subject: Re: Request dev help: Info for required crypto export declaration
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Rob Weir r...@robweir.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote:
EAR 740.13(e) should be on
that OpenOffice.org deals with SSL certifications, but I guess
I should be prepared for anything.
- Dennis
-Original Message-
From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 12:32
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Request dev help: Info for required
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
Let me see if I can help ground this.
Currently, digest algorithms are used for a variety of things. The common
case is SHA1. These are not themselves a concern, as I understand it, since
their function is
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Rob Weir r...@robweir.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
Let me see if I can help ground this.
Remember, the export could be of code, not just the binaries. So if
we have code that does asymmetrical
, September 01, 2011 12:14
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Request dev help: Info for required crypto export declaration
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Rob Weir r...@robweir.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote
: Re: Request dev help: Info for required crypto export declaration
So in general OpenOffice supports encryption and digital signatures
and https/SSL. So we have support for standard algorithms, from
one-way hashes like SHA-1, to block encryption like Blowfish and
AES-256, to public key
[mailto:robertburrelldon...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 13:13
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org
Subject: Re: Request dev help: Info for required crypto export declaration
[ ... ]
So far, looks like OOo most likely has strong crypto but it's all
fairly standard
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
Technically, this was to have been resolved before the code was put up on
SVN. We need to audit specifically for this rather quickly, and including
the places that Rob also identified (import-export filters and
appropriately.
-Original Message-
From: Robert Burrell Donkin [mailto:robertburrelldon...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 14:01
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Request dev help: Info for required crypto export declaration
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Dennis E
dev help: Info for required crypto export declaration
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
Technically, this was to have been resolved before the code was put up on
SVN. We need to audit specifically for this rather quickly, and including
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Rob Weir r...@robweir.com wrote:
Looks like LO discussed it briefly [4], but dismissed it under the
misapprehension that since they are not in the US, the regulation is
irrelevant.
I'm confused, how is that a 'misapprehension' exactly ?
Are you concerned
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Rob Weir r...@robweir.com wrote:
Looks like LO discussed it briefly [4], but dismissed it under the
misapprehension that since they are not in the US, the regulation is
irrelevant.
: Info for required crypto export declaration
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Rob Weir r...@robweir.com wrote:
Looks like LO discussed it briefly [4], but dismissed it under the
misapprehension that since they are not in the US, the regulation is
irrelevant.
I'm confused, how
...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 18:38
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Request dev help: Info for required crypto export declaration
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Rob Weir r...@robweir.com wrote:
Looks like LO discussed it briefly [4], but dismissed it under
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Rob Weir r...@robweir.com wrote:
Looks like LO discussed it briefly [4], but dismissed it under the
misapprehension
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Rob Weir r...@robweir.com wrote:
Looks
, 2011 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: Request dev help: Info for required crypto export declaration
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb
Moin,
please take my answers with a decent grain of salt, I'm not an expert
for that area, Matthias Hütsch and Malte Timmermann certainly could
answer that better, but I don't know if they are currently contributing
to this list. Hopefully my remarks can help to look at the right places.
Am
: Info for required crypto export declaration
Moin,
please take my answers with a decent grain of salt, I'm not an expert
for that area, Matthias Hütsch and Malte Timmermann certainly could
answer that better, but I don't know if they are currently contributing
to this list. Hopefully my remarks
.
-Rob
-Original Message-
From: Mathias Bauer [mailto:mathias_ba...@gmx.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 07:00
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Request dev help: Info for required crypto export declaration
Moin,
please take my answers with a decent grain of salt
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