RE: [DISCUSS] Creation of ooo-security List

Behalf Of Rob Weir Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 16:10 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Creation of ooo-security List On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Well, vulnerabilities are vulnerabilities and if there is a

RE: [DISCUSS] Creation of ooo-security List

security@project lists? - Dennis -Original Message- From: Daniel Shahaf [mailto:d...@daniel.shahaf.name] Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 15:54 To: OOo-dev Apache Incubator Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Creation of ooo-security List Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 12:02:31 -07

RE: Regarding the PPMC's Private List

-1 on that part. Please God, treat us like adults here. -Original Message- From: rabas...@gmail.com [mailto:rabas...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Rob Weir Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 08:45 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Regarding the PPMC's Private List [ ... ] 2) I wonder wheth

RE: Future of OOo

+1 What matters now is the task before us and how we sustain a community of interests. We must find where are common purposes bind us together, not more reasons for alienation. There are concrete differences between the two efforts, those are not likely to change, and we must find alignments

RE: Future of OOo

Ross, You might find some crisp talking points in the status report as well, since that text is being reviewed and will presumably be signed-off by a mentor before you embark for Berlin. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Ross Gardler [mailto:rgard...@opendirective.com] Sent: Thursda

RE: [DISCUSS] Creation of ooo-security list (was Re: OpenOffice Security Vulnerability Reporting)

So perhaps the prudent thing to do is create the list and find out we don't need it, rather than not have it and have occasion to regret it. +1 -Original Message- From: Mark Thomas [mailto:ma...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 07:00 To: Rob Weir Cc: securityt...@openoffice.org

RE: Board report

I left the Community section empty on my last clean-up, but I promised to add something today. When I do may last "stats" for how we are doing in a little while, I will indicate a brief summary on what we have accomplished in having folks on-board. Although it is tempting to talk about what mo

RE: ooo-dev list subscriber stats?

For balance, I recommend lurking on [libreoffice-users] and [libreoffice-documentation]. The developers list (counterpart of ooo-dev, right down to patch pushing), [libreoffice] is part of a separate system. This list is useful, especially for the tech steering committee minutes, and it may p

RE: ooo-dev list subscriber stats?

+1: "- introduce an AOOo blog so that the Community can follow our progress." -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 09:44 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: ooo-dev list subscriber stats? Hi Manfred, > did you check a

RE: ooo blog (was: RE: ooo-dev list subscriber stats?)

at 2:16 PM, Gavin McDonald wrote: > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] >> Sent: Saturday, 9 July 2011 6:06 AM >> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org >> Subject: RE: ooo-dev list subscriber stats? >>

RE: ooo blog [invitations, existing blogs]

ave > > Gav... > >> >> Marcus >> >> >> >>> On 08/07/11 22:36, Marcus (OOo) wrote: >>>> AFAIK we have not yet decided if we want to remove the ".org" >>>> extension or keep like it was in the old project. >>&

2011-07-08 PPMC Status: Bringing Initial Committers On-Board

total = Pending PPMC? + complete below PENDING ACTIONS 0 invite 0 accepted? 24 iCLA? 0 choose ID 5 ID chosen? 1 ID pending 15 PPMC? 55 complete 102 total -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 19:37 To: oo

RE: Blog Created

And I can confirm that it is working, the full-post Atom feed is working, and I can author from Windows Live Writer 2011. (For that last, praise be!) It looks like the CSS needs some tweaking: the right side bar drops down depending on t

RE: Blog Created

Dang! Well, I just jumped right in. So, we want the blog to be the official voice of the project in some way? Is that a requirement? Is that what we want? I thought that is what web sites are for. Blogs have a different kind of voice in my experience. I have lots of outlets for blogging,

RE: Blog Created

> -Original Message----- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] > Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2011 9:00 AM > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; ga...@16degrees.com.au > Subject: RE: Blog Created > > And I can confirm that it is working, the full-post Atom fe

RE: Blog Created

y 2011 12:18 PM > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: Blog Created > > Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > > Dang! > > > > Well, I just jumped right in. > > > > So, we want the blog to be the official voice of the project in some way? > > > > Is that a requ

RE: Blog Created - Statistics

some pent-up interest or else the stats are just wacky. I don't know what to make of this. Interesting though. The numbers are going up across the board for the top 5. Europe is awake? - Dennis -Original Message----- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.

RE: Blog Created - Institutional byline?

11 05:43 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Blog Created On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Dang! > > Well, I just jumped right in. > > So, we want the blog to be the official voice of the project in some way? > I think it will be seen that wa

RE: Local Website Development w/ Apache CMS

I can affirm that a Check-Out using the https works whether or not one is a committer. On my system, I did not need to provide credentials until I did my first check-in. (Note that this is not true for private/restricted SVNs where one must offer credentials to access them whether via check-

OpenOffice.org "Summit" - OSCON 07/25

I just booked to arrive in Portland the afternoon of Sunday, July 24, returning to Seattle in the afternoon of Tuesday, July 26. I'm looking forward to meeting all who will be at OSCON for the first tutorial day, Monday, July 25. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Danese Cooper [mailto

RE: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

+1 That works for me, conceptually. I don't have any history with OpenOffice.org, the project, however, so I intend to stay neutral on how this gets thrashed out. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Carl Marcum [mailto:cmar...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 16:54 To: ooo-dev@

RE: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog) - Take care of the users!

Original Message----- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 17:57 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog) +1 That works for me, conceptually. I don't have any history with OpenOffice.org, the project

[DISCUSS] Project + PPMC Growing Pains

We are just one month into being the Apache OpenOffice.org Podling. It is useful to interesting to take stock of all that is happening and where we are. The main activity that we are all holding our breath over is the reconstitution of the code base under Apache. There is also concern for the

RE: [DISCUSS] Project + PPMC Growing Pains

uesday, July 12, 2011 14:34 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Project + PPMC Growing Pains Is this intended as a blog post? It reads like one. In particular I don't see any proposals to discuss. -Rob On Jul 12, 2011, at 4:30 PM, "Dennis E. Hamilton" wrote: &g

Initial Committers vs. Established Committers

All individuals who listed themselves as Initial Committers on the approved proposal for the Apache OpenOffice.org incubator project are automatically eligible to become podling committers and PPMC members. Initial Committers do not require a vote at the PPMC to be invited. It is the invitatio

Committers and Contributors and PPMC

It is important to distinguish between contributors generally and the subset of contributors who happen to be committers. There are technical prerequisites and prerogatives to being a committer. Many people have been contributors to OpenOffice.org when it was under the stewardship of Sun and

RE: Commiters list and the students

I'm delighted to see that you are submitting your iCLA. Before we get too far ahead of ourselves, I want to point out that registration of an iCLA is a prerequisite for becoming a committer, but it is not sufficient. There must also be an invitation (which only Initial Committers have automati

RE: Committers and Contributors and PPMC

[mailto:acolor...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Alexandro Colorado Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 12:20 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Dennis E. Hamilton Subject: Re: Committers and Contributors and PPMC On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Thu, Jul 14, 2011

RE: *Solaris support - WAS What is the advantage of the Apache OpenOffice.org Fork?

Rob's traveling, so I'll try my hand at this. (We're all new here, some are just newer than others, but someone will have had experience with the OpenOffice.org Oracle/Sun projects and may have some insight into what it takes to support Solaris distributions.) First, you're in the right place

2011-07-15 PPMC Status: Bringing Initial Committers On-Board

3 ID pending? 10 PPMC? 60 complete 1 other 103 Total -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 17:23 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: 2011-07-08 PPMC Status: Bringing Initial Committers On-Board CURRENT

PPMC Membership and Responsibilities

PPMC Membership is by invitation. Becoming a committer is by invitation. Generally, PPMC members are committers first. For the Initial Committers and only the Initial Committers, there is an automatic invitation to become a committer and to become a PPMC member. Once the Initial Committer is

RE: PPMC Membership and Responsibilities

011, at 7:15 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > The Initial Committers are listed on this page: > <http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenOfficeProposal?action=recall&rev=207>. > The list was closed on 2011-06-10 when voting on the incubator proposal > commenced. then I misse

RE: [DISCUSS] Project + PPMC Growing Pains

Hi Kay, I think there is a conflict of expectations and it is something that we need to address. The PPMC is not only former/current OpenOffice.org contributors and we don't all know each other. And some of us are acquainted in contexts that have nothing to do with OpenOffice.org. (I'm at a

RE: [DISCUSS] Project + PPMC Growing Pains

Yes, and we have a way to report and track bugs and other issues here [;<). - Dennis -Original Message- From: sa3r...@gmail.com [mailto:sa3r...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Sam Ruby Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 14:58 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Project + PPMC Growin

RE: [DISCUSS] Project + PPMC Growing Pains

Just to be clear: The time in proposal was 10 days, from June 1 to June 10. "Weeks" is a stretch. I don't think this matters. I don't think the duration before the proposal was voted on was determined by any notion of some community having time to notice and the participants time to arrive an

RE: SVN tutorial

Kay, Is the description that you might be thinking of. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.sch...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 14:02 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: SVN tutorial On 07/12/

RE: single repository status

I think that the desire to have a full history is a serious one. I fancy Michael's option 3 (that which shall not be numbered [;<). It sounds like the least that could possibly work, so it strikes me as an important approach to consider, especially if it sheds critical path for getting the code

RE: Suggestion for OOo branding...

+1 Evidently, the renderings that have been done are not attached to the post by the list server. Is there some place where we can look at them? - Dennis -Original Message- From: Wolf Halton [mailto:wolf.hal...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 14:53 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apac

RE: Suggestion for OOo branding...

Yes, the LibreOffice icons are different. The overall theme is green, not blue. The general symbol is a page with a large corner cut and a dark corner exposed beneath. The lines and the dark corner are different colors for the different applications within LibreOffice. For larger versions of

RE: Suggestion for OOo branding...

nding... Dennis, Use the url below to see them... https://skydrive.live.com/#!/?cid=69f0fbe8e03b2c13&sc=documents&nl=1&uc=1&id=69F0FBE8E03B2C13%211171!cid=69F0FBE8E03B2C13&id=69F0FBE8E03B2C13%211172&sc=documents Michael ____________ From: De

[DISCUSS] : Apache OpenOffice.org Initial Committer Status

There are 20 Initial Committers on the OpenOffice.org incubator proposal who have not yet submitted iCLAs or informed us of their intention not to do so. Today I used the following format for a message to one of those Initial Committers. Before 19 more of these are sent out I wanted to check ho

RE: Suggestion for OOo branding...

Having thought about it some more, I think it is undesirable to use ODF as an identifier in the icons that are established by specific products. We are confusing application association and format. Furthermore, if there is to be an agreement on such icons as generic to the format, it should

RE: Oracle Connector for SharePoint

I'm not up for working on CMIS at this time, personally, but I think there is an open-source toolkit from Alfresco that might help if it is not already being used. John Newton was very keen on encouraging CMIS adoption, of course. I also agree that using the open-standards route for an adapter

RE: [DISCUSS] : Apache OpenOffice.org Initial Committer Status

Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] : Apache OpenOffice.org Initial Committer Status El 22/07/2011 5:10, Dennis E. Hamilton escribió: > There are 20 Initial Committers on the OpenOffice.org incubator proposal who > have not yet submitted iCLAs or informed us of their intention not to do so. > > Toda

RE: RE: [DISCUSS] : Apache OpenOffice.org Initial Committer Status

us What is the technical or social stressor causing this issue to be framed in this time-sensitive language? Wolf On Jul 22, 2011 4:40 PM, "Dennis E. Hamilton" wrote: > I did not include a time limit, because we had not agreed on one. Instead, I made the request to indicate whether the

RE: [DISCUSS] : Apache OpenOffice.org Initial Committer Status

Here is what I propose based on the discussion so far: 1. Make the modifications to the message already proposed, but without addition of any kind of deadline. Simply request their intentions to file an iCLA (and by when) or not. I do want to be gracious and accept that there may be many di

RE: When does one become a committer?

My sense is that no one is a committer for the Apache OpenOffice.org podling who has not shown up on this list: . That does not happen until after the Apache user name/ID has been issued by root@. Likewise, one is not on the PPMC until ha

RE: [DISCUSS] : Apache OpenOffice.org Initial Committer Status

OpenOffice.org Initial Committer Status On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > There are 20 Initial Committers on the OpenOffice.org incubator proposal who > have not yet submitted iCLAs or informed us of their intention not to do so. > > Today I used the foll

RE: [DISCUSS] : Apache OpenOffice.org Initial Committer Status

Ingrid, You can help me. I am having difficulty finding a concrete case for completely open-ended invitation of Initial Committers. Suppose you were on the Initial Committer list. You had not sent an iCLA. You had not responded to a request to take that step as part of being established as a

RE: When does one become a committer?

I think election is an incorrect threshhold. I think the comparable state would be taking office, and that means having the Apache user name/ID and being in authz for the particular project. You can't actually perform as a committer until that has been accomplished. - Dennis Of course, my e

RE: When does one become a committer?

July 23, 2011 13:43 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: When does one become a committer? On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > I think election is an incorrect threshhold. I think the comparable state > would be taking office, and that means having t

RE: [DISCUSS] : Apache OpenOffice.org Initial Committer Status

ssage- From: IngridvdM [mailto:ingrid...@gmx-topmail.de] Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 14:09 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] : Apache OpenOffice.org Initial Committer Status Hi Dennis, Am 23.07.2011 21:35, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: > Ingrid, > > You can hel

RE: Suggestion for OOo branding...

What ODF Oligarchy? OASIS certainly had nothing to do with branding of OpenOffice.org and its choice of icons. The ODF TC has never been consulted on such matters. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Larry Gusaas [mailto:larry.gus...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 13:24 To: o

RE: [DISCUSS] : Apache OpenOffice.org Initial Committer Status

Your rewording is fine with me. Thanks. And thank you for the discussion. It is important to explore all of the concerns that arise around the Initial Committer situation that we have. - Dennis -Original Message- From: IngridvdM [mailto:ingrid...@gmx-topmail.de] Sent: Sunday, July 2

RE: OOO340 to svn

TBD = To Be Determined/Defined There was extensive discussion with Greg Stein and Marcus (and others) in previous weeks on this list. Greg's last post was July 9, as previously noted. There has been further work/discussion by Mathias Bauer, Michael Stahl, Marcus Lange, Eike Rathke, and others

RE: No diff from wiki ?

Did you try "Watch" on the Tools button for the page you want to receive update notices about? - Dennis PS: Since this is an open, public wiki, I suspect there is no diffs feed. -Original Message- From: florent andré [mailto:florent.andre-...@4sengines.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2

Population of ooo-security

Now that we've confirmed that the ooo-security list exists and the three moderators appear to be subscribers, I believe the next action is to subscribe the existing OO.o/LibreOffice security folk, per

FW: OOO340 to svn

Ahem. -Original Message- From: Greg Stein [mailto:gst...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 04:56 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: OOO340 to svn [ ... ] I have created "ooo" on apache-extras, but would like to give a full 72 hour discussion to see what support looks l

Ooo Hg to Apache Extras (was Re:OOO340 to svn)

I am assuming that the Mercurial repository(ies) [my mind can't grasp all of those Child Work Spaces) will be as-is and therefore covered by whatever licenses and notices that are already affixed. [I am assuming this is analogous with LibreOffice acquiring the LGPL-licensed OO.o code base for i

Q: Notices in Code

Greg, Simple version of the question: Is your putting notices on everything your personal practice or is it a requirement that this be done with all textual artifacts where notices are possible? - Dennis LONGER VERSION I looked over the ooo/trunk/tools/dev/ repository and noticed that you pu

RE: Population of ooo-security

Rob Weir [mailto:apa...@robweir.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 19:09 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Population of ooo-security On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Now that we've confirmed that the ooo-security list exists and the thre

RE: Q: Notices in Code

rom: Greg Stein [mailto:gst...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 13:06 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: dennis.hamil...@acm.org Subject: Re: Q: Notices in Code On Jul 28, 2011 12:44 PM, "Rob Weir" wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton > wrote

RE: Population of ooo-security

ur previous remarks concerning this being an important area where we can benefit from mutual cooperation. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Florian Effenberger [mailto:flo...@documentfoundation.org] Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 14:42 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Populatio

RE: Q: Notices in Code - Answered and Thanks Y'All

There's a story, perhaps apocryphal (i.e., like the bicycle shed story), about Tom Watson approaching a Sr.VP for Human Resources in a hallway and asking how college students get summer jobs at IBM. The Sr.VP said he'd get back to him. I will say no more. You might imagine how this went South

RE: Q: Notices in Code - Answered and Thanks Y'All

Jul 28, 2011 7:44 PM, "Dennis E. Hamilton" wrote: > There's a story, perhaps apocryphal (i.e., like the bicycle shed story), about Tom Watson approaching a Sr.VP for Human Resources in a hallway and asking how college students get summer jobs at IBM. The Sr.VP said he'd g

Operating ooo-security (was RE: Population of ooo-security)

We are in a very fledgling situation here. Let's see if we can clear up a few things. Here is my understanding of the situation as it exists at the moment. - Dennis 1. The ooo-security@i.a.o list is private and moderated. Anyone can send a message to the list. The three current moderators

RE: Operating ooo-security (was RE: Population of ooo-security)

1 13:42 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Operating ooo-security (was RE: Population of ooo-security) Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 13:28:01 -0700: > We are in a very fledgling situation here. Let's see if we can clear up a > few things. > > Here

RE: Operating ooo-security (was RE: Population of ooo-security)

@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Operating ooo-security (was RE: Population of ooo-security) I just sent in a test email from my work email. Please do not divulge my employer. (Ah these corporate rules ;-) Regards, Dave On Jul 29, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > You're probab

Requesting ooo-security Subscriptions: No Luck

Since the ooo-security list became operational, there have been a few requests to subscribe to the list. After the e-mail confirmation ceremony, applicants will be told, by the mail-list robot, that the initiation of their subscription awaits approval by a moderator. PLEASE NOTE: UNINVITED SUB

RE: Q: Notices in Code - Answered and Thanks Y'All

-Original Message- From: Greg Stein [mailto:gst...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 21:56 To: dennis.hamil...@acm.org Cc: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: Q: Notices in Code - Answered and Thanks Y'All Geezus. You are continuing to be obtuse. I have *no* idea what

Refactoring the brand: Apache ooo + OpenOffice.org? (was re:OpenOffice.org branding)

On another list, I saw a comment from Roy Fielding that resonated with me. Others have mentioned it, but not here on ooo-dev. My interpretation is that we could have Apache ooo as the identifier of the core Apache project built on what we factor out of the Oracle grant, leaving OpenOffice.org

RE: Population of ooo-security

+1 I think we'd need to consult with the security@ folks and rely on their advice with regard to non-project members of ooo-security, something that has also been mentioned in the discussions here. But I think we should do that, rather than conclude it is not all right. My sense of suggestion

RE: An introduction and a discussion about the OpenOffice User Forums

ooo-dev is moderated and has moderators? Who are the moderators, pray tell? - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:apa...@robweir.com] Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 12:05 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: An introduction and a discussion about the OpenOffice Use

OpenOffice User Forums (was RE: An introduction and a discussion about ...)

Thanks for the great introductory note and discussion, Terry. I'd like to focus on this a little differently. Namely, sustaining OpenOffice.org as it is, at least in terms of user-facing and use-authored sections. Core development and bug reporting might be factored out of that structure to in

Questions: LAMP and PHPBB for OpenOffice.org

On ooo-dev, we continue to ponder how we can support the existing OpenOffice.org web site and the subdomains thereof with minimal friction and maximum preservation of the accumulated material. Here is a thumbnail of what the objectives are:

ooo-dev Moderators (was RE: An introduction and a discussion about the OpenOffice User Forums)

about the OpenOffice User Forums On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > ooo-dev is moderated and has moderators? > > Who are the moderators, pray tell? > I am one, for example. If an email is posted from an address that is not subscribed the list, and is not a

Preserving OpenOffice.org (was RE: An introduction and a discussion about the OpenOffice User Forums)

Terry, Nice work! Your account for maintenance to the PHPBB install is admirable. No matter how OpenOffice.org becomes hosted under Apache, it looks like the key questions are support for PHP, MediaWiki, and PHPBB. I am assuming that the developer-centric aspects can move to apache.org serv

RE: An introduction and a discussion about the OpenOffice User Forums

e OpenOffice User Forums > -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] > Sent: Monday, 1 August 2011 5:52 AM > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Cc: 'Rob Weir' > Subject: RE: An introduction and a discussion about the OpenOffi

RE: Refactoring the brand: Apache ooo + OpenOffice.org? (was re:OpenOffice.org branding)

Weir wrote: > On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: >> >> >> On 07/30/2011 11:37 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: >>> >>> On another list, I saw a comment from Roy Fielding that resonated >>> with me. Others have mentioned it, but not

RE: [DISCUSS] (was Re: When does one become a committer?)

There is going to be a new reminder. Thanks for reminding me about that. That won't be the final reminder. The final reminder will be to those who don't respond to the new reminder. We are still looking at a mid-(say 3rd week) August date for that reminder, with a curfew in mid-September. Th

RE: Population of ooo-security

+1, and what Eike said too. -Original Message- From: Simon Phipps [mailto:si...@webmink.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 11:59 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Population of ooo-security One observation about this discussion: Until there is actually a way to make a binary

RE: Refactoring the brand: Apache ooo + OpenOffice.org? (was re:OpenOffice.org branding)

+1 to Terry's assessment. I favor the plan for setting up a VM and bringing over everything possible that we are allowed to preserve and make that the new location for openoffice.org. We can lock down some things that need to be continued on apache.org addresses, but the idea is to achieve cont

RE: Population of ooo-security

I'm assuming that, out of the mutual concerns we all share for the community of ODF supporters, that it might be appropriate to suggest to a reporter that they take their report to a different security@ address that might be more appropriate for immediate attention and action. - Dennis -O

RE: Refactoring the brand: Apache ooo + OpenOffice.org? (was re:OpenOffice.org branding)

I thought Terry had some numbers, and also wants to be able to bring up replicas on machines he has so he can confirm, verify staging, etc. -Original Message- From: Gavin McDonald [mailto:ga...@16degrees.com.au] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 18:24 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject

RE: Refactoring the brand: Apache ooo + OpenOffice.org? (was re:OpenOffice.org branding)

+1 just re-host it, do whatever verification/adjustment is needed before the DNS switcheroo happens, then continue with clean up and any further migration afterwards. I see no reason to have all of it on Apache SVN or convert the PHPBB or MediaWiki to anything else in the short term. - Denn

RE: [DISCUSS] : Apache OpenOffice.org Initial Committer Status

itter Status On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > There are 20 Initial Committers on the OpenOffice.org incubator proposal who > have not yet submitted iCLAs or informed us of their intention not to do so. > > Today I used the following format for a messag

RE: [DISCUSS] : Revised Message

- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 20:10 To: OOo-dev Apache Incubator Subject: [DISCUSS] : Apache OpenOffice.org Initial Committer Status There are 20 Initial Committers on the OpenOffice.org incubator proposal who have not yet submitted iC

2011-08-01 PPMC Status: Bringing Initial Committers On-Board

nding PPMC? + complete, below PENDING ACTIONS 0 invite 0 accepted? 20 iCLA? 0 choose ID 4 ID chosen? 8 ID pending 5 PPMC? 65 complete 1 other 103 total -Original Message----- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 17:18 T

RE: Refactoring the brand: Apache ooo + OpenOffice.org? (was re:OpenOffice.org branding)

-1 I don't understand why there is continued pressing that things not in a release have to be treated as if it requires the same treatment as the content of a release. I thought we had worked a high-level sketch of the user documentation case with Jean Hollis Weber some time ago on this list.

RE: Refactoring the brand: Apache ooo + OpenOffice.org? (was re:OpenOffice.org branding)

August 02, 2011 07:53 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Refactoring the brand: Apache ooo + OpenOffice.org? (was re:OpenOffice.org branding) On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > -1 > > I don't understand why there is continued pressing that things

RE: Refactoring the brand: Apache ooo + OpenOffice.org? (was re:OpenOffice.org branding)

+1 All wikis that accept public contributions (which is essentially all interesting wikis) must be curated. Ward Cunningham has provided the definitive exposition about that. I am sure we can find responsible contributors who will be eager to do that. Maybe some will need administrative acce

RE: Refactoring the brand: Apache ooo + OpenOffice.org? (was re:OpenOffice.org branding)

I'm not sure we are all talking about the same documentation. I suppose the OOODEV wiki is the appropriate place to be doing that documentation, whatever it is, that is intended in the guidelines. When we see the equivalent on OpenOffice.org, we should, on a per-case basis, redirect it to OOOD

binfilter (was RE: OOO340 to svn)

I believe LibreOffice is already taking action on binfilter, and it would be useful to see if we can match their approach. Also, I think there was (again on LibreOffice) a technical discussion on simplifying the dependencies. This was initially by having redundancy, with the idea that a better

RE: Temporary issue tracking

1. Is the current OpenOffice.org bugzilla not operating? 2. If the issues are about the migration, maybe we should activate a piece of the Apache JIRA so we can be more systematic, figuring out how to retire/merge it when the OpenOffice.org bugzilla comes over in whatever form we need it in.

RE: Refactoring the brand: Apache ooo + OpenOffice.org? (was re:OpenOffice.org branding)

I suppose it is rather obvious that we have moved far afield from the subject line here. At this point, I have no idea what problem there being a master announce list solves: 1. What is it proposed to be used for? 2. Who will be doing that and speaking for whom? - Dennis -Original M

RE: Refactoring the brand: Apache ooo + OpenOffice.org? (was re:OpenOffice.org branding)

What message is that? Can we get more concrete here, please. -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:apa...@robweir.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 08:59 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Refactoring the brand: Apache ooo + OpenOffice.org? (was re:OpenOffice.org bran

RE: Refactoring the brand: Apache ooo + OpenOffice.org? (was re:OpenOffice.org branding)

Let's slow down here. I don't recognize any alignment on what it is we think we are asking for (or attempting to do). This is going way over the edge past JFDI and/or lazy consensus. -Original Message- From: Andy Brown [mailto:a...@the-martin-byrd.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011

RE: Refactoring the brand: Apache ooo + OpenOffice.org? (was re:OpenOffice.org branding)

o see if we can get those users involved to see what path we need to take. HTH Andy Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Let's slow down here. I don't recognize any alignment on what it is we think > we are asking for (or attempting to do). This is going way over the edge &g

RE: Refactoring the brand: Apache ooo + OpenOffice.org? (was re:OpenOffice.org branding)

nding) On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > 1. Well, if we *have* to require an iCLA because we choose (or are limited > to) an approach that makes iCLA mandatory, there is nothing to be gained by > conducting a survey on the matter. > > 2. If we come

RE: status of OpenOffice logo?

Sounds good. I think there are some rules about how the Apache symbols are used for in-incubator podlings. (There is a revealing topic on T-shirts somewhere, either legal-discuss or general-incubator, I think.) - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.n

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