Re: [discuss] remove of binfilter module

2011-06-15 Thread Martin Hollmichel
On 06/15/2011 12:45 AM, Raphael Bircher wrote: Am 15.06.11 00:15, schrieb Ivo Hinkelmann: Hi Christian, good idea to remove it, preferred the whole module. It saves us a lot of build time! Build time no matters in this case. No user will understand this argument. And the question is for

Re: [discuss] remove of binfilter module

2011-06-15 Thread Martin Hollmichel
On 06/15/2011 07:59 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Martin Hollmichel martin.hollmic...@googlemail.com wrote: On 06/15/2011 12:45 AM, Raphael Bircher wrote: Am 15.06.11 00:15, schrieb Ivo Hinkelmann: Hi Christian, good idea to remove it, preferred the whole module

Re: [discuss] remove of binfilter module

2011-06-15 Thread Martin Hollmichel
also opening up the possibility of multiple options in terms of packaging up the product to suite different audiences. A. On 6/15/2011 11:50 AM, Martin Hollmichel wrote: On 06/15/2011 07:59 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Martin Hollmichel martin.hollmic

OpenOffice.org Product Roadmap: made by whom ? was: Re: [discuss] remove of binfilter module

2011-06-16 Thread Martin Hollmichel
Hi Sam, Do you have a concrete proposal? yes, I have. First, I do not have any problems with the Apache style of decision making, lazy consensus sounds perfectly reasonable to me. I like that style. This fits perfectly to the meritocracy principle. My understanding is, that this principle is

Re: OOo source licenses (was: Subversion history)

2011-06-20 Thread Martin Hollmichel
On 06/20/2011 11:05 AM, Mathias Bauer wrote: Hi, I moved this and some other lists to the OpenOffice.org wiki: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ApacheMigration From this page two links point to lists with files that seem to be compatible with ASL and with files than seem to be

Re: Some more strange files in the OOo code

2011-06-22 Thread Martin Hollmichel
On 06/22/2011 01:38 PM, Yuri Dario wrote: Hi Mathias, That would be fine. It is not very urgent, as we won't build OOo on OS/2 soon. We can just leave that single file out. If you want to continue development of the port, you can add the missing file. the file is not missing from tree, it

Re: Donated hardware

2011-08-04 Thread Martin Hollmichel
Hi, some of the old fellows of the OpenOffice.org project may remember the CC and TeamOpenOffice.org e.V. sponsoring the project. Team OOo is still committed to contribute to the OpenOffice code base is and is looking forward to help with the old resources like the Mac Buildbot or the pootle

Re: Planet OpenOffice?

2011-09-07 Thread Martin Hollmichel
Hi, seems that we lost the box running planet.services.openoffice.org (was in the Hamburg Oracle building), I also have no more access to backup data, so it's difficult for me to help migrating, Martin Am 07.09.2011 17:54, schrieb eric b: Hi, Le 7 sept. 11 à 16:10, Rob Weir a écrit : I

Re: QUASTE working?

2011-09-08 Thread Martin Hollmichel
Am 08.09.2011 01:09, schrieb Raphael Bircher: Hi Dave This is not a buildbot or samething like that. This is the VCL Testtool. It's a Tool witch is designed to run Testcase fully automaticly. It's similar to a User interact with OOo. So it's a Gui function test. also login to EIS seems

Re: Introduction and start working

2011-09-21 Thread Martin Hollmichel
Hi, Am 20.09.2011 12:26, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: Hi, [...] I will start working on a consolidation of the Windows Build software requirements as given on http://ooo-wiki.apache.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide/Building_on_Windows: - get rid of dependence on unicows.dll This

Re: Introduction and start working

2011-09-21 Thread Martin Hollmichel
Hi, - get rid of dependence on instmsiw.exe and instmsia.exe also this will iirc have some dependencies wrt system requirements, what do you consider as minimum Windows baseline ? I would be fine with a XP System SP2, I would alse be fine with Windows XP SP2 as the minimum Windows operating

Re: consolidation of Windows Build software requirements [was: Re: Introduction and start working]

2011-09-21 Thread Martin Hollmichel
Hi, Yes, once I have a corresponding patch ready we have to check it on the different Windows platforms. Does the current version of Apache OpenOffice allow the creation of patches and service packs? I don't think so and maybe we should avoid that kind of complexity at this stage, so

Re: ooocon.org seems to be down

2011-10-11 Thread Martin Hollmichel
Hi, same applies for wiki.services.openoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Wiki has a problem *Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.* Try waiting a few minutes and reloading. (Can't contact the database server: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket

Re: Fixing security lists

2011-10-11 Thread Martin Hollmichel
Hi Shane, yes, it looks like that I'm able to edit the list of subscribers, Martin Am 10.10.2011 18:54, schrieb Shane Curcuru: On 10/10/2011 12:33 PM, Malte Timmermann wrote: ...snip... - Which leaves us with 1 common list where we don't have such restrictive rules, and can continue with our

Re: Fixing security lists

2011-10-11 Thread Martin Hollmichel
@ for awareness On 10/11/2011 6:08 AM, Martin Hollmichel wrote: Hi Shane, yes, it looks like that I'm able to edit the list of subscribers, Martin Am 10.10.2011 18:54, schrieb Shane Curcuru: On 10/10/2011 12:33 PM, Malte Timmermann wrote: ...snip... - Which leaves us with 1 common list where we

Re: Is there an org chart of the previous OOo governance(s)?

2011-10-13 Thread Martin Hollmichel
Am 13.10.2011 11:18, schrieb Ross Gardler: a discussion from a position of we don't care will not help +1, well said, Martin

Re: Fixing security lists

2011-10-13 Thread Martin Hollmichel
Am 13.10.2011 13:39, schrieb Rob Weir: On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Martin Hollmichel martin.hollmic...@googlemail.com wrote: Shane, done, and sent out a welcome mail, please confirm if this got through to your list, Martin Martin, I did see two notes come through to the ooo-security list

Re: Fixing security lists

2011-10-13 Thread Martin Hollmichel
Am 13.10.2011 14:28, schrieb Rob Weir: My OOo ID is: robweir. That is associated with email address: robw...@apache.org ok, should work now, Martin

Re: Foundation blog posting on Apache OOo

2011-10-17 Thread Martin Hollmichel
Am 14.10.2011 18:22, schrieb Jim Jagielski: Whereas it is in the self-interest of those entities Hmm, I think it's not that easy. We see Team OpenOffice.org (as the legal entity behind the old Community Council) still in the repsonsibilty of an uncredible amount of users which gave their

Re: Foundation blog posting on Apache OOo

2011-10-17 Thread Martin Hollmichel
Am 17.10.2011 20:52, schrieb Shane Curcuru: If it didn't happen on the mailing list, it didn't happen. I understand your point, but: Do you think you have all relevant stakeholders here on the list ? Do we have a common understanding who these stakeholders are ? Martin

Re: Making donations to the project

2011-10-19 Thread Martin Hollmichel
Hi Ross, the 2011 budget is based on the numbers of the 2010 budget, so the increase of the developer budget was caused by the internship program we executed last year, Juergen Schmidt may elaborate about that details. In fact, the 2011 budget should change after the changed ownership, but

Re: Making donations to the project

2011-10-19 Thread Martin Hollmichel
Hi, I think the question we should be asking, in addition, is: what makes us think that the model that OOo used historically might not work even better? +1 I think what matters is not just oh it works fine but how do we maximise benefits. Indeed, invest into mechanism to boost up the

Re: Making donations to the project

2011-10-19 Thread Martin Hollmichel
Am 19.10.2011 17:24, schrieb Ross Gardler: On 19 October 2011 16:10, Martin Hollmichel martin.hollmic...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I think the question we should be asking, in addition, is: what makes us think that the model that OOo used historically might not work even better? +1 I think

Re: Apache Disavows Team OpenOffice.org e.V.

2011-10-19 Thread Martin Hollmichel
Am 19.10.2011 17:46, schrieb Shane Curcuru: So - what does your organization do, and how do you want to work with the AOOo podling? please understand that I want to reply to this in a thread with another title ;-) Martin

Re: Apache Disavows Team OpenOffice.org e.V.

2011-10-20 Thread Martin Hollmichel
Am 20.10.2011 09:41, schrieb Jörg Schmidt: I wrote an email (on 13.10.2011) tovorst...@teamopenoffice.de (your emai...@openoffice.org in CC) and got no answer. Why? No interest in communication? sorry, for not answering yet, our bandwidth is bit overloaded in the moment, we come back to

working on a OpenOffice roadmap

2011-10-20 Thread Martin Hollmichel
Hi, Wether to stay with OpenOffice or LibreOffice or to migrate to LibreOffice or to OpenOffce is a question in the recent past often occurred, by users, by people doing business with OpenOffice, by the press. The answer I would like to give is that this question is not really that relevant

Re: working on a OpenOffice roadmap

2011-10-20 Thread Martin Hollmichel
Am 20.10.2011 11:02, schrieb Martin Hollmichel: A call to LibreOffice contributors also to contribute their changes to Apache as the ASF is the long desired independent foundation for OpenOffice.org. of course this should read as a call for all people providing patches, to do a dual licensing

Re: working on a OpenOffice roadmap

2011-10-20 Thread Martin Hollmichel
Am 20.10.2011 14:35, schrieb Shane Curcuru: This is an interesting idea. The three key questions are: -- Are there sufficient volunteers in the Apache OpenOffice podling to actually complete this work in a reasonable time, without impacting (what I think is) the progress to a new Apache

Re: Neutral / shared security list ...

2011-10-25 Thread Martin Hollmichel
Am 23.10.2011 04:37, schrieb Rob Weir: For example, AOOo currently does not have a Pootle server. Is that an area where TDF this time can help AOOo? for the records, the old pootle server is lying under my desk, I would be glad to see that server online again, Martin

Re: Neutral / shared security list ...

2011-10-25 Thread Martin Hollmichel
Hi all, If both parties (ASF, TDF) agree, I could imagine that team openoffice is willing to provide funds for an independent location, but at the same time I'm wondering whether such neutral zone is wanted and makes sense ? What I really don't like to see is a third location for

Re: Manual TCS from the former Quaste

2011-11-15 Thread Martin Hollmichel
Hi, we should ask Andrew directly if a backup of those data is available, Martin On 11/15/11 4:09 AM, Xia Zhao wrote: Wolfram, I am looking for the same asset. If no one knows, I think the migration work can be done by our QA volunteers. The problem is we need find the archive asset. Best

Re: Time for the ASF to send an Open Letter?

2011-11-16 Thread Martin Hollmichel
On 11/16/11 1:15 PM, Donald Harbison wrote: On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:31 AM, Martin Hollmichel martin.hollmic...@googlemail.com wrote: On 11/15/11 6:46 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: I have been mulling this over for a long time... Up to now, we have been reactionary. We have allowed others

Re: Time for the ASF to send an Open Letter?

2011-11-18 Thread Martin Hollmichel
wrote: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 2:51 AM, Dave Fisherdave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Nov 16, 2011, at 12:39 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote: On 2011-11-16 3:26 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hi Martin; --- On Wed, 11/16/11, Martin Hollmichel wrote: ... On 11/16/11 6:33 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: On 16 November

Re: Source Code Sponsor of OOo

2011-11-21 Thread Martin Hollmichel
Shane, the reference to the Apache Project is required here, agreed. We are reworking the content of the pages to make the message more clear, your guidance on how to point to Apache OpenOffice project is appreciated here, Martin On 11/21/11 2:19 AM, Shane Curcuru wrote: Note that the

Re: [DISCUSS]: content of the about dialog box

2011-11-21 Thread Martin Hollmichel
On 11/21/11 4:00 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Nov 21, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Martin Hollmichelmartin.hollmic...@googlemail.com wrote: On 11/18/11 2:14 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: just stumbled over the about dialog box. Besides the logo on top + the name, version and build info

Re: [DISCUSS]: content of the about dialog box

2011-11-21 Thread Martin Hollmichel
On 11/21/11 4:12 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Nov 21, 2011, at 9:00 AM, Martin Hollmichelmartin.hollmic...@googlemail.com wrote: On 11/21/11 4:00 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Nov 21, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Martin Hollmichelmartin.hollmic...@googlemail.com

Re: Source Code Sponsor of OOo

2011-11-21 Thread Martin Hollmichel
...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Martin Hollmichel martin.hollmic...@googlemail.com wrote: Shane, the reference to the Apache Project is required here, agreed. We are reworking the content of the pages to make the message more clear, your guidance on how to point to Apache OpenOffice

Re: Non-Apache maintenance release for OOo 3.3?

2011-11-25 Thread Martin Hollmichel
Allen, in the past the OpenOffice.org release process for micro releases looked like this: * propose a tentative release data 3 months behind the release of the minor version * propose issues and must haves for the micro release, new features and new strings (which would cause a new

Re: Unaccounted copyleft libraries in THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME.html

2011-11-25 Thread Martin Hollmichel
On 11/26/11 12:44 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: libmspack I think this becomes obsolete with OpenOffice.org 3.0 release, was used for downloading some public available, but non OpenSource Fonts, NSIS NSIS was a prereqiste for doing packaging download sets for Windows, so it is not included as

Re: Lost localisation files?

2011-12-21 Thread Martin Hollmichel
Hi, sorry for not answering earlier, was on vacation last week, I will try to put the old pootle server online again within the next days, so at least the data shouldn't be lost, I keep you updated with the progress, Martin On 12/20/11 10:51 PM, André Schnabel wrote: Hi, Am 13.12.2011