Re: [openhealth] Open Sourcing of Proteus Tools

2007-12-17 Thread Molly Cheah
Here's the abstract of a paper presented at OSHCA2007 in May in KL. Legal issues impacting the use of open source software in health care by GK Ganesan Software relating to healthcare: an introduction to some legal issues This paper examines legal issues relating to the use of open source

[openhealth] GKP - Beyond Tunis

2007-12-02 Thread Molly Cheah
For those who are interested to read the happenings before and beyond Tunis, here's the url: http://www.gkpcms.com/beyondtunis/index.cfm/pageid/38 The */Beyond Tunis/* publication series is a unique intellectual adventure launched by Global Knowledge Partnership http://www.globalknowledge.org

[openhealth] [Fwd: Re: [oshca_members] Why is open source fidelity is important to health care and what should OSHCA do?]

2007-12-01 Thread Molly Cheah
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Re: [openhealth] Re: [oshca_members] OSHCA's Aims and Objectives

2007-11-30 Thread Molly Cheah
in patient care. I will bring this issue to the attention of the PCDOM Committee at their next meeting for their action. Molly Tim Cook wrote: Thanks for the clarification that Primacare is not open source. Regards, Tim On Sat, 2007-12-01 at 12:57 +1100, Tim Churches wrote: Molly Cheah

Re: [openhealth] Re: [oshca_members] OSHCA's Aims and Objectives

2007-11-30 Thread Molly Cheah
Churches wrote: Molly Cheah wrote: Dear all, In view of the type of posts to these lists and that I do not wish to be drawn to the same type of exchanges that led to the demise of OSHCA from 2003-2006, I would like to make the following statement. Besides, I

[openhealth] Interoperability issues at HIMSS in Singapore a week after OSHCA 2007.

2007-05-18 Thread Molly Cheah
This is a challenge to OSHCA's interoperability efforts. Please subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to participate in the FOSS efforts co-ordinated by OSHCA. Go to http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/foss_health to subscribe. This is a follow-up to the OSHCA Conference 2007 with the

[openhealth] New mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-05-16 Thread Molly Cheah
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list had been set up, thanks to Soo Hoe. This list is started as a result of the need to continue the discussions and subsequent follow-up activities from the OSHCA Conference 2007 which was held in Kuala Lumpur 8-11 May 2007 with the theme: Moving the FOSS Agenda for

Re: [openhealth] Re: OSHCA conference 2007 follow-up discussion

2007-05-16 Thread Molly Cheah
Hi Mark, (see below) mspohr wrote: Dear Molly, It was very good to meet you in Cape Town. I'm sorry that I was not able to arrange to attend the OSHCA conference. Yes. We would have liked to see someone from the Health Matrix Network at the conference but there wasn't one. This

Re: [openhealth] OSHCA Hotel

2007-04-11 Thread Molly Cheah
Yes. There is negotiated rates (its in the conf registration form) Hotel Accommodation : *Superior Room *@ *RM180.00 nett per room per night * * Deluxe Room @ RM230.00 nett per room per night * * Deluxe Studio @ RM300.00 nett per room per night* * (rates inclusive of breakfast)* Current

Re: [openhealth] OSHCA Hotel

2007-04-11 Thread Molly Cheah
A Malaysian friend who arrived at Newark Airport was charged USD350 for a ride from the airport to his hotel. He thought that was the rate. Similarly, you may be asked to pay RM100 from KLIA to your hotel in Cititel in MidValley but by Mercedes that cost RM35+RM20 (KLIA express RM35 and taxi

Re: [openhealth] OSHCA Hotel

2007-04-11 Thread Molly Cheah
Dee Knapp wrote: I'll not be able to make the meeting but here is a definition of tout..Dee Thanx Dee. I was looking forward to see you in KL. Molly

Re: [openhealth] OSHCA Hotel

2007-04-11 Thread Molly Cheah
there are regular metered taxis at taxi stands in Kuala Lumpur, and those are the best bet to get around once we take the train from the airport to KL Sentral? Are there types of taxis to be avoided (like the green taxis in Mexico City)? -- Bhaskar Molly Cheah wrote, On 04/11/2007 06:39 PM

[openhealth] OSHCA Conference 2007 - May 8-11 2007

2007-04-04 Thread Molly Cheah
Dear all, Calling all those who wish to participate or plan to attend the OSHCA Conference 2007 from 8-11 May, please go to http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/participants to subscribe to the list in order to receive updates and further information on the conference. Please e-mail

Re: [openhealth] OSHCA Conference May 8-11 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia - Passport and Visa Planning

2007-03-29 Thread Molly Cheah
of Family Medicine McMaster University - Original Message From: Molly Cheah [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: openhealth@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 11:11:27 AM Subject: Re: [openhealth] OSHCA Conference May 8-11 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia - Passport and Visa Planning *Visa

Re: [openhealth] OSHCA Conference May 8-11 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia - Passport and Visa Planning

2007-03-28 Thread Molly Cheah
I have sent off an enquiry to the authorities regarding this requirement for a signed formal document to apply for visa. Molly Nandalal Gunaratne wrote: To get a visa we need a formal document to show that there is a conference with dates and signed by someone. Nandalal --- Molly Cheah [EMAIL

Re: [openhealth] oshca committee

2007-03-26 Thread Molly Cheah
Hi Thomas, I changed your subject matter because OSHCAdotorg is working. I understand your current situation. However, there is no necessity to resign as all committee positions lapse at the coming AGM on May 11 2007 when the AGM will vote in the new OSHCA Committee. The current one is still

Re: [openhealth] OSHCA Documents

2007-03-24 Thread Molly Cheah
Thanks Christian for uploading these forms. Perhaps I should explain that the travel expense estimates are to be completed by those who seek to get financial support to attend the OSHCA Conference 2007 from May 8-11 in Kuala Lumpur. Priority will be given to presenters/trainers who had or will

[openhealth] oshca dot org is down

2007-03-21 Thread Molly Cheah
Apologies that the OSHCA web-portal is down since yesterday because of the internet connection is down. We hope to get the connection up as soon as I have response from our ISP provider. It also means that we are unable to receive any e-mails to the mailing list at oshca.org. For crucial

Re: [openhealth] Experimental OSHCA catalogue of FOSS application for health and healthcare

2007-03-10 Thread Molly Cheah
Tim, When I click this Trial SIMILE link, it opens on same window and does not take me back to the previous page, http://www.oshca.org/healthdir/ Maybe its better to make it open on a separate window. Trial SIMILE Exhibit listing of free, open-source applications for health and health care

Re: [openhealth] Re: Hi folks..

2007-02-18 Thread Molly Cheah
You're right, Nandalal. I was given the contact to the OpenMRS to invite them to the OSHCA conference in May by the new director of ICT for IDRC as I understand that the project in Africa is quite exciting. As soon as I get a firm commitment on the funding for scholarships for those outside

Re: [openhealth] OSHCA Conference Topics

2007-02-05 Thread Molly Cheah
Hi Klaus, You mean as what you did in 2001? http://oshca.org/oshca/history/oldweb/meet2001 I would suggest that the technical committee members take note of Klaus's proposals. And thanks Klaus. Molly Klaus Veil wrote: Christian, I'd be happy to contribute something on HL7 and would also

Re: [openhealth] OSHCA Conference Topics

2007-02-05 Thread Molly Cheah
for the FOSS community. Klaus _ From: openhealth@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Molly Cheah Sent: Monday, 5 February 2007 20:10 To: openhealth@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [openhealth] OSHCA Conference Topics Hi Klaus, You mean as what you did in 2001? http://oshca

[openhealth] Re: [Fwd: [FOSS-PDI] OSHCA Conference - Preliminary Announcement]

2007-01-18 Thread Molly Cheah
standards in health are essential to facilitating interoperability and how we can encourage or lobby those standards to migrate toward the open plank. My 2cent worth. Stephen On 1/19/07, *Molly Cheah* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Stephen (from APAMI list), Let

[openhealth] OSHCA Conference - Preliminary Announcement

2007-01-14 Thread Molly Cheah
*Preliminary Announcement! * * OSHCA * /presents/ Moving the FOSS Agenda for Health: Setting the Framework for Interoperability *1-4 May 2007 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia * Call for Presentations OSHCA 2007 - Annual Open Source Health Care Alliance Meeting This four-day conference

[openhealth] Economic impact of open source software on innovation and the competitiveness of the ICT sector the EU

2007-01-11 Thread Molly Cheah
Forwarded Message From: Philippe Aigrain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: iprpublicdomain [EMAIL PROTECTED] The report of this study has just be put on line on the European Commission DG ENTR site at : http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/ict/studies/publications.htm

[openhealth] Radio goes the open source route

2007-01-11 Thread Molly Cheah
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6241923.stm Radio goes the open source route *A new generation of broadcasters are to join the world's airwaves after the launch of open-source software which allows people to run a radio station from a single computer for free.* Campcaster takes a regular

[openhealth] Call for Participants

2006-12-05 Thread Dr Molly Cheah
CALL FOR PARTICIPANTS Asian eHealth Research Network for Developing Countries Angeles University (Philippines) in collaboration with Asian partners at Aga Khan University (Pakistan), the Molave Development Foundation (Philippines), Primary Care Doctor's Organization (Malaysia) and the

Re: [openhealth] Re: GPs Revolt

2006-11-23 Thread Molly Cheah
just based on what we read in the Guardian, it appears to be on a knife-edge anyway. But there has been substantive spending - CFH has already spent many millions (I would think many times £100m) on message development and other work that blithely assumes the central message bank idea,

[openhealth] [fossap] Asia Source II: Call for Applications

2006-11-01 Thread Dr Molly Cheah
*** Your mail has been scanned by InterScan MSS. *** [fossap] Asia Source II: Call for Applications Dear Friends, This is a call for applications for Asia Source II: Free and Open Source Technologies for NGOs [Non Government Organisations] and SMEs

[openhealth] Announcement - OSHCA registration

2006-10-31 Thread Dr Molly Cheah
I am pleased to announce that OSHCA is now registered and will receive its registration certificate by next week. The OSHCA web-portal http://oshca.org had been up and operating since August 9th 2006. As it is hosted temporarily on the Malaysian Council for Tobacco Control (MCTC) Server, it is

[openhealth] IBM contribute technology to open source community

2006-08-10 Thread Molly Cheah
http://domino.research.ibm.com/comm/pr.nsf/pages/news.20060809_openhealthcare.html IBM brings electronic medical records one step closer through open technology / Contributes technology to open source community; Establishes Innovation Centers to work with major players, business

[openhealth] Public Domain Open Standards discussion at WIPO: What did Mexico, India, Chile and Australia say?

2006-08-02 Thread Dr Molly Cheah
http://fromgeneva.blogspot.com/2006/07/public-domain-open-standards.html 2 July 2006 Thiru Balasubramaniam The recently concluded WIPO Provisional Committee on Proposals related to a Development Agenda (PCDA) meeting (26-30 June 2006) saw a rich discussion on the public domain, competition

Re: [openhealth] New file uploaded to openhealth

2006-06-04 Thread Molly Cheah
See this http://www.themekit.com/t_odt12.htm Gregory Woodhouse wrote: On Jun 4, 2006, at 9:24 AM, K.S. Bhaskar wrote: Greg -- That's the new ISO Open Document Format standard. You can read it with OpenOfficce.org as well as several other applications (I think it is supported by AbiWord

Re: [openhealth] CAISIS

2006-05-15 Thread Molly Cheah
I'm looking at it actually to see if we could use it for the EVIPnet, a WHO project that will harness evidence from research and practice for policy decision making. I'm interested in the interface to capture data from clinical practice to build up the database for research, something like

Re: [openhealth] Standards -- more questions

2006-05-13 Thread Molly Cheah
Hi Alvin, Agreeing on common standards is much more complex than meets the eye. Have you seen this health IT standards directory by the National Alliance for Health Information Technology? http://www.nahit.org/hitsdir/ The Standards Directory is part of the Alliance's drive to accelerate

Re: [openhealth] Standards

2006-05-12 Thread Molly Cheah
There doesn't seem to be control of its use. Information (unofficial) of its copy rights by WONCA is here http://www.ulb.ac.be/esp/wicc/copyright-en.html You can download the electronic version of ICPC2 from here. http://www.ulb.ac.be/esp/wicc/ceo.html When we started using it 6 years ago,

[openhealth] Mobilizing NGOs advocating FOSS

2006-05-12 Thread Molly Cheah
the possibilities of different software models, notably for education, science and digital inclusion programmes. Dr Molly Cheah Protem President, Open Source Health Care Alliance (OSHCA) YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "openhealth" on the web. To unsubscribe from

[openhealth] Code Breakers on BBC World TV

2006-05-07 Thread Molly Cheah
http://www.apdip.net/news/fossdoc A two-part documentary, “Code Breakers” will be aired on BBC World TV starting on 10 May 2006. Code Breakers investigates how poor countries are using FOSS applications for development, and includes stories and interviews from around the world. Free/Open

Re: [openhealth] Re: voting results

2006-05-02 Thread Molly Cheah
Hi David, I had taken a break, with no internet connection after the exciting OSHCA Inaugural Meeting that was held on the 28th April. I believe Joseph had prepared the voting results to be posted here. He should be doing this any time now. The duly elected protem committee will set out to

Re: [openhealth] Re: voting results

2006-05-02 Thread Molly Cheah
Penang - Singapore. Molly Molly Cheah wrote: Hi David, I had taken a break, with no internet connection after the exciting OSHCA Inaugural Meeting that was held on the 28th April. I believe Joseph had prepared the voting results to be posted here. He should be doing this any time now. The duly

Re: [openhealth] OSHCA - Notion of founding members

2006-04-26 Thread Molly Cheah
and these categories apply after incorporation too. joseph, true, there are only two named categories of members in the constitution. there is also an informal category of membership known as a founding member. for example: - - - - Begin forwarded message - - - - From: Molly Cheah [EMAIL PROTECTED

[openhealth] OSHCA Inaugural Meeting - Welcoming note

2006-04-25 Thread Molly Cheah
Hi everyone, Further to my 7.02am note (just awoken then) and Joseph's subsequent instruction on the subject for today's discussion, I had copied and pasted that message below. The nice thing about this virtual extended meeting time frame is that I can add to my earlier note with some comments

[openhealth] OSHCA Inaugural Meeting - Closing remarks

2006-04-25 Thread Molly Cheah
Hi, It's time that the Inaugural Meeting has come to a close, the longest inaugural meeting that allows interested and supportive people across the globe to move for the registration of OSHCA. The protem committee will take note of all comments and submission and will deliberate and then

Re: [openhealth] New file uploaded to openhealth

2006-04-24 Thread Molly Cheah
Dear all, It gives me great pleasure to welcome all those who are interested to become the founding members of OSHCA, though I am aware that I am within the earshot of others on the openhealth list who may not be interested in OSHCA at all. However, as past discussions had been carried out

[openhealth] Re: OSHCA Inaugural Meeting: not-for-profit membership

2006-04-24 Thread Dr Molly Cheah
Hi Irving, In Malaysia we still refer to organisations such as the Free MED Foundation as Civil Society by nature of its not-for-profit status. Article 5.4.2.1 provides for registration of non-profits under . or its equivalent which refers to Incorporation limited by guarantee and which

[openhealth] Re: oshca inaugural meeting - constitution

2006-04-24 Thread Molly Cheah
Hi Will, What you have done is incorrect. As you disagree with the constitution, we will not be able to include your name in the list of founding members to the ROS simply because the ROS will not register OSHCA. Therefore there will be no OSHCA for you to be a member of. I am posting this

Re: [openhealth] OSHCA inaugural meeting - important announcement

2006-04-23 Thread Molly Cheah
getting OSHCA registered. Molly With best regards, [wr] - - - - - - - - On Apr 22, 2006, at 3:53 PM, Molly Cheah wrote: Hi Will, Your suggestions below pose a dilemma for me because of the time frame. As you're aware, in preparation for this inaugural meeting in 2 days' time

Re: [openhealth] OSHCA inaugural meeting - important announcement

2006-04-22 Thread Dr Molly Cheah
Thomas Beale wrote: A fund would then make sense to support these. But I would like to postpone this discussion to the day when need arises. doesn't the fact of paying the same number but in your own currency fix this? E.g. 50AUD, 50M$, 50Euro, 50rupiah, 50USD, 50yuan etc? But Tim seems

Re: [openhealth] OSHCA inaugural meeting - important announcement

2006-04-22 Thread Molly Cheah
meeting to compose and pass a constitutional amendment without prior circulation to the larger membership. Respectfully submitted, [wr] - - - - - - - - On Apr 21, 2006, at 10:07 AM, Molly Cheah wrote: Hi everyone, I would like to announce the following: 1) 25th April 2006 will be the OSHCA

Re: [openhealth] OSHCA inaugural meeting - important announcement

2006-04-21 Thread Molly Cheah
by the 24th April, everyone will support it and be a member. The membership fees will be paid only when OSHCA gets registered. Molly Dave Fred Trotter wrote: Sorry, I do not find a link... should we be looking at www.oscha.org?? That says the next meeting is in 2002 :) -FT On 4/21/06, Molly

Re: [openhealth] OSHCA inaugural meeting - important announcement

2006-04-21 Thread Dr Molly Cheah
I believe that OSHCA should be a not-for-profit but not a charitable organisation. Free sometimes attract the wrong type of people who may make up the numbers but do not show commitment to OSHCA's cause. Besides there is a cost in servicing these free riders and I don't think we want OSHCA

[openhealth] [FOSS-PDI] Open Source/Standards/Medicine -- UNU event in NYC

2006-04-12 Thread Molly Cheah
- Original Message - From: Philipp Schmidt To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If any of the readers are in the NYC area on Thursday 13 April, please stop by our open source/standards/medicine symposium. We have a range of great speakers and are hoping for a lively discussion. /p PS _ Apologies that

[openhealth] OSHCA registration update

2006-04-04 Thread Molly Cheah
Since the list has become unduly quiet, I'm taking this opportunity to provide a short update on the OSHCA registration. The registration document is at version1 draft 3, sent out to the Protem Committee yesterday. I think we are quite close to the final draft, which will be uploaded to the

Re: [openhealth] sumultaneous registrations and registration form

2006-03-29 Thread Molly Cheah
Richard, I would appreciate it if you allow the protem committee to make the decisions on OSHCA since the community has given us the mandate to resurrect OSHCA. Otherwise I feel that you're undermining our efforts. I don't understand why suddenly you're in such a hurry. Like many others, Tim

Re: [openhealth] sumultaneous registrations and registration form

2006-03-29 Thread Molly Cheah
titled Important annoucement and oshca update. The mandate to ressurrect OSHCA was given in January 2006. Molly Richard Schilling wrote: The protem committee taking four years to get this far is a pretty clear indication that they've undermined themselves. Richard Molly Cheah wrote

Re: [openhealth] Openhealth mailing list

2006-03-29 Thread Molly Cheah
Brian, In not underestimating the importance of the Minoru mail archives, can these be saved into a hard disk (40 or 80 G), since this is too big for the yahoo archive limit? I already have some pledges of financial support privately from some members and we can afford to purchase this

[openhealth] Geneva Forum - Towards Global Access to Health

2006-03-29 Thread Molly Cheah
*GENEVA** FORUM - TOWARDS GLOBAL ACCESS TO HEALTH - * *August 30- September 1st, 2006* *International Conference Centre of Geneva, Switzerland* Website: website: http://www.hcuge.ch/genevahealthforum THEMES: Access to health systems, Access to drugs, vaccines diagnosis,

Re: [openhealth] Important announcement and oshca update

2006-03-28 Thread Molly Cheah
corporate law. Personally I think it is great that OSHCA will finally be incorporated, and given the current Zeitgeist in many rich countries, that it will be incorporated under a flag bearing the crescent and star. Tim C Molly Cheah wrote: Dear all, I am happy to annouce that the transfer

Re: [openhealth] Important announcement and oshca update

2006-03-28 Thread Dr Molly Cheah
My apologies, I mean qualify the governance of OSHCA's assets Molly Dr Molly Cheah wrote: I've copy and paste the email from Networksolutions on the completion of the transfer of oshca.org from Minoru Corporation to OSHCA which is self explanatory on your question who owns the domain name

[openhealth] What is OSHCA going to be

2006-03-28 Thread Dr Molly Cheah
Based on recent postings perhaps I am wrong in using the term incorporation for ressurrecting OSHCA and making it a legal entity. I can understand the fear of business-minded individuals. I would from now on use the word registration. I would like to re-post the Vision, Mission, Principles and

[openhealth] Important announcement and oshca update

2006-03-27 Thread Molly Cheah
) are as follows: Joseph dal Molin (Canada/US) Adrian Midgley (UK/Europe) Thomas Beale (Australia/Pacific islands) Nandalal Gunaratne (Sri Lanka/Asia) Molly Cheah (Malaysia/Asia) I hope to keep the protem committee small for quick decision making but hope to add 2 more names, preferably from South America

[openhealth] Resurrecting OSHCA - further updates

2006-01-22 Thread Dr Molly Cheah
Hi all, We need to move to the next stage for resurrection. 1. Where to incorporate It has been pointed out that its critical that OSHCA has an international focus. I think there is an agreement that incorporation should be in a developing country, though I have received e-mails privately

Re: [openhealth] Resurrecting OSHCA - updates so far....

2006-01-20 Thread Dr Molly Cheah
to them However, we'll amend No: 3 to read 3. Make recommendations on Guidelines on Health Information Standards to support open data (?data interchange and data language) standards Molly Nandalal Gunaratne wrote: Dr Molly Cheah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Molly, I have made some changes

[openhealth] Resurrecting OSHCA - updates so far....

2006-01-18 Thread Dr Molly Cheah
Hi everyone, I've tried to put together views expresed so far, but runs into difficulty at some points. The Mission statements are a bit unruly. Needs help. Vision: Free and Open Source Health Care Software will provide a viable and sustainable alternative in mainstream ICT for positive impact

Re: [openhealth] Resurrecting OSHCA - a review

2006-01-15 Thread Dr Molly Cheah
wrote: Hi Molly, some weeks ago, about 22 of us mailing list members expressed their support for incorporating OSHCA. I take the liberty to list those: - Molly Cheah - Brian Bray - Adrian Midgley - Fred Trotter - Tim Cook - Christian Heller - Joseph Dal Molin - David Chan - Nandalal Gunaratne

Re: [openhealth] Resurrecting OSHCA - a review

2006-01-15 Thread Dr Molly Cheah
/06, Dr Molly Cheah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will, When we're discussing resurrecting OSHCA, we're going beyond organising conferences, which organisations like IMIA,AMIA or any organisations advocating open source can do from time to time. We've also gone beyond the debate on the need

[openhealth] Resurrecting OSHCA - a review

2006-01-12 Thread Molly Cheah
Hi everyone, I must apologise for the lapse in time following the flurry of discussion during the month of November 2005 just before the WSIS in Tunis on the ressurection of OSHCA. I was prompted by Joseph to see if I had recovered from the trip. There was so much to do as follow-up to such a

[openhealth] CBMS2006 - Special Track: The Use of OSS and ODF in Health and Medical Systems

2005-12-08 Thread Dr Molly Cheah
CALL FOR PAPERS The Use of OSS and ODF in Health and Medical Systems Jun 22-23, 2006, Salt Lake City, Utah Special Track at the 19th IEEE International Symposium on Computer-Based Medical Systems The support of Open Source Software (OSS) and Open

[openhealth] Meet-up in Tunis

2005-11-13 Thread Molly Cheah
Hi, Based on responses to my earlier e-mails, it appears that there are not many from the openhealth community who will be in Tunis next week. Nevertheless, I had suggested meeting up on the 16th Nov at the Sharing the Future pavilion 1307.1, Coffee Point. I'll keep the timing flexible and

[openhealth] WSIS Tunis

2005-11-08 Thread Molly Cheah
Hi! It's almost 2 years since we last annnouced on this list about meeting up of those who were attending WSIS Geneva Phase. I will be attending the WSIS Tunis Phase from 13th November till 20th November. I am wondering if anyone else from this list is going to be there so that we can meet?