Re: [openhealth] CCHIT biased towards proprietary software??

2006-03-28 Thread Richard Schilling
I understand Rod's point, and I believe that if you choose to restrict your activities to a purely altruistic ideal, then what Rod talks about and what Eric Rayomond talks about is just fine. But, I argue that at any point you invest time into open source (as a user,developer, etc.) it is

Re: [openhealth] Important announcement and oshca update

2006-03-28 Thread Richard Schilling
Nice to see you make progress on this. I remember a few years ago when this was a hot topic on the openhealth list If I were involved in the incorporation (which I can do, by the way in a day) I would object to doing it in Malaysia. I would do it in the U.S. first. The protections

Re: [openhealth] Important announcement and oshca update

2006-03-28 Thread Tim.Churches
Richard Schilling wrote: If I were involved in the incorporation (which I can do, by the way in a day) I would object to doing it in Malaysia. I would do it in the U.S. first. The protections offered a U.S. corporation might be much greater than in Malaysia. Glad that you have compared US

Re: [openhealth] Important announcement and oshca update

2006-03-28 Thread Molly Cheah
Hmmm It hadn't crossed my mind at all that discussions on the suitability of the country for incorporation will be approached from those perspectives mentioned. I thought we were approaching this issue (developing vs developed countries) from the funding perspectives (not mentioning

Re: [openhealth] CCHIT biased towards proprietary software??

2006-03-28 Thread Maury Pepper
It worries me when a single organization is in a position to set the criterion for certification and set the price. If being certified is required as entry to some markets, then the organization is in a position similar to a government regulator. To break up this monopoly, I would suggest

Re: [openhealth] CCHIT biased towards proprietary software??

2006-03-28 Thread Nandalal Gunaratne
Will Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I too agree. Certification is a matter of standards and quality. ther should be no compromise. The FOSS once equally certified maybe able to make stroner claims. However because of the collaborative/community type of development, there could be a waver of

Re: [openhealth] CCHIT biased towards proprietary software??

2006-03-28 Thread Nandalal Gunaratne
Business Readiness Rating™ - Home Could HIS be included here as well? NandA Thomas Beale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Tim.Churches wrote: Will Ross wrote: Fred, I oppose the creation of a separate open source certification process. I think it compromises the opportunity for

Re: [openhealth] Important announcement and oshca update

2006-03-28 Thread Joseph Dal Molin
Legal protection in the context of an organization like OSHCA is IMHO not a major concern. What is more important is how the countries laws influence governance. David Forslund wrote: I don't understand why this is good or even relevant. What should matter is the legal protection provided

Re: [openhealth] Important announcement and oshca update

2006-03-28 Thread David Forslund
There may be legal protection, etc in Malaysia. We are more familiar with the situation in the US. It is more of a question of comparing what is required and what you can do with a corporation in Malaysia than in the US. The decision shouldn't be made on political grounds but on technical

Re: [openhealth] Important announcement and oshca update

2006-03-28 Thread Tim.Churches
David Forslund wrote: There may be legal protection, etc in Malaysia. Not may be, there definitely is. As Molly said, Malaysian law was originally based on British law - it is now distinct from it, but rest assured that there is rule of civil law in Malaysia. There is also corruption and

Re: [openhealth] Important announcement and oshca update

2006-03-28 Thread Richard Schilling
Molly, I think you should incorporate in Malaysia eventually. As a Malaysian you'll have a very easy time doing it and know what it means. The members of the protem committee have been discussing OSCHA incorporation since 2002 or perhaps earlier if memory serves. Why it didn't happen in

Re: [openhealth] Openhealth mailing list

2006-03-28 Thread Brian Bray
Thanks for the welcome, Bhaskar, and also the warm welcome (in every sense of the word) I've received from many others. Also, thank you for creating this list. The list software at minoru-development.com was and is broken- you took the right step to keep this incredible community conversation

Re: [openhealth] Important announcement and oshca update

2006-03-28 Thread Fred Trotter
I think at a certain point this becomes an issue of doers vs. talkers. Talking is fine, but from previous discussions I understood that while many people are interested there are few that can commit serious money or time to this process. I know that I certainly cannot afford any time to help right

Re: [openhealth] Important announcement and oshca update

2006-03-28 Thread Dr Molly Cheah
My apologies, I mean qualify the governance of OSHCA's assets Molly Dr Molly Cheah wrote: I've copy and paste the email from Networksolutions on the completion of the transfer of oshca.org from Minoru Corporation to OSHCA which is self explanatory on your question who owns the domain name.

Re: [openhealth] Openhealth mailing list

2006-03-28 Thread Bhaskar, KS
Thank you, Brian. I look forward to your ongoing active contribution to and participation in this list and the Free / Open Source Softwar healthcare community. Regards -- Bhaskar On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 19:45 -0600, Brian Bray wrote: Thanks for the welcome, Bhaskar, and also the warm welcome (in

Re: [openhealth] Important announcement and oshca update

2006-03-28 Thread Richard Schilling
Thank you Dr. Molly. What you wrote is very helpful and answers my concerns about intellectual property protections afforded to Malaysian incorporation. But, I'm still not convinced I know enough to say it's a great idea to start there. You're right - I need to spend some time there, and

[openhealth] What is OSHCA going to be

2006-03-28 Thread Dr Molly Cheah
Based on recent postings perhaps I am wrong in using the term incorporation for ressurrecting OSHCA and making it a legal entity. I can understand the fear of business-minded individuals. I would from now on use the word registration. I would like to re-post the Vision, Mission, Principles and

Re: next steps. (was Re: [openhealth] Important announcement and oshca update)

2006-03-28 Thread Tim Cook
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks for your offer Richard. Molly and others have spent a great deal of time in developing this organization. While it is not a particularly inviting subject, the ideology of 'where to incorporate' first is an issue. One that has been discussed

Re: next steps. (was Re: [openhealth] Important announcement and oshca update)

2006-03-28 Thread Richard Schilling
Molly certainly has my support. I don't mean to suggest she doesn't. And I do appreciate her assertiveness as well. Ultimately I can work with any locale of registration to some degree. Tim, I offered to help four years ago too when this subject was being kicked around. I'm certain that

Re: next steps. (was Re: [openhealth] Important announcement and oshca update)

2006-03-28 Thread Bhaskar, KS
Agreed, Tim. Molly is a long-standing member of the FOSS healthcare community and deserves kudos for running with OSHCA. As an American, I am certainly more comfortable with the US legal system than I am with the Malaysian system but (a) I understand that no legal system is perfect, (b) I trust

Re: [openhealth] Important announcement and oshca update

2006-03-28 Thread Nandalal Gunaratne
Richard Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Wow after all that feedback I'm honestly trying to pick where to start on this one. I'm seeing some confusion here between legal aspects and the socio-political. Perhaps this is because socio-political is far more important in asia

Re: [openhealth] Important announcement and oshca update

2006-03-28 Thread Nandalal Gunaratne
Richard Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The next GKP annual meeting is here in Sri Lanka. Anyone coming? :-) NandA Molly, I think you should incorporate in Malaysia eventually. As a Malaysian you'll have a very easy time doing it and know what it means. The members of the

Re: next steps. (was Re: [openhealth] Important announcement and oshca update)

2006-03-28 Thread Tim Cook
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard Schilling wrote: Molly deserves extra credit for hanging in there. I'm anxious to see things progress. It doesn't sound like, though, you or anyone is interested in seeing a U.S. component. Is that true? Richard Hi Richard, Let

Re: next steps. (was Re: [openhealth] Important announcement and oshca update)

2006-03-28 Thread Richard Schilling
I know Tim - a lot of people feel the way you do. I try to be as politically agnostic as I can in the FOSS realm, and sometimes that confuses people. Someone mentioned the bad U.S. press too. I don't watch U.S. news, BTW :-) I'm simply saying I'll do the work and give OSCHA a physical

Re: next steps. (was Re: [openhealth] Important announcement and oshca update)

2006-03-28 Thread Nandalal Gunaratne
Tim Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a great admierer of the US and it's people, the films, the sports, the comics on which I was introduced to reading :-) I still think it is one of the best countires and even the President is not all bad flamebait Most of the FOSS software come

[openhealth] sumultaneous registrations and registration form

2006-03-28 Thread Richard Schilling
Since OSCHA is an internationl body we can register siultaneously, and choose the base to be anywhere. Is the incorporation in Malaysia going to be doing business or just representing FOSS industry interests? Depending on the answer to that here are our choices here in the U.S. that I can