[OpenIndiana-discuss] opensxce down?

2016-01-11 Thread Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss
It seems that the site http://opensxce.org is down. And I cannot find the test binaries for Intel KMS. BTW, when one my systems starts it shows a garbled screen and after a while the system reboots. Now, Solaris 11.3 shows exactly the same garbled screen but after a while the screen is

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] opensxce down?

2016-01-11 Thread Aurélien Larcher
> It seems that the site > > > http://opensxce.org > > is down. And I cannot find the test binaries for Intel KMS. It has been that way since the day of Martin's last email. I understood that he had to power down the machine for a while. We could have mirrored the testing binaries on the Wiki

[OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE is hereby renamed to: [OpenSXCE Ian Murdock Memorial Edition]

2016-01-06 Thread Мартин Бохниг
OpenSXCE is hereby renamed to:   [OpenSXCE Ian Murdock Memorial Edition] Update: It is impossible that he committed suicide. They must have “taken him out”! Don't believe this nonsense! I also doubt the authenticity of "his" "last" tweets. One of his last comments on twitter was, that he will

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE/SPARC: It was a mistake to keep the site online.

2014-09-24 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
Thanks Jonathan. You are absolutely right. Use your mailfilter! Can someone hating Martins posts please explain to me why they DO NOT USE THIS FILTER? It might be manhunting after all? 23 sep. 2014 schreef: I'm sorry to even be involved in this discussion ... My brother and his wife were

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE/SPARC: It was a mistake to keep the site online.

2014-09-24 Thread Nikola M.
On 09/22/14 09:59 PM, Laurent Blume wrote: I've yet to see anything about technology and not blatant politics or insults in that thread. What thread? You are inventing someting? This thread? As I understand this blatant thread started when you misinterpreted asking not to talk about world

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE/SPARC: It was a mistake to keep the site online.

2014-09-23 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
You do not need a list administrator tot stop this disvussion. All YOU have to do is shut up. Stop reacting. Don't try tot hide behind the back of someone else just tot kick somebody off this list. Because it is nog about stopping this conversation nut soms very narrow minded egos want to have

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE/SPARC: It was a mistake to keep the site online.

2014-09-23 Thread G B via openindiana-discuss
Wow! Obviously you don't know Martin, because he won't stop. Removing myself from the mailing lists for OI. On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 3:01 AM, Dick Hoogendijk d...@nagual.nl wrote: You do not need a list administrator tot stop this disvussion. All YOU have to do is shut up. Stop

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE/SPARC: It was a mistake to keep the site online.

2014-09-23 Thread Dave Koelmeyer
On 23/09/14 22:41, G B via openindiana-discuss wrote: Wow! Obviously you don't know Martin, because he won't stop. This is precisely the point, and backed up by the evidence thus far. It's also the reason why mailing lists and forums, generally, /have some form of moderation presence to

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE/SPARC: It was a mistake to keep the site online.

2014-09-23 Thread Laurent Blume
Obviously, you don't know Martin. I've refrained from intervening in those threads for what, more than one year now? Just because I also hoped it would stop. It hasn't. I don't want THIS discussion to be stopped. I would have liked it stated that none will happen again. But it is okay,

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE/SPARC: It was a mistake to keep the site online.

2014-09-23 Thread Nikola M.
On 09/23/14 01:56 PM, Laurent Blume wrote: Obviously, you don't know Martin. I've refrained from intervening in those threads for what, more than one year now? Just because I also hoped it would stop. It hasn't. I think everyone refrained from answering actually. So what. I don't want THIS

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE/SPARC: It was a mistake to keep the site online.

2014-09-23 Thread G B via openindiana-discuss
Too much for an operating system technical discussion. How sad OI has devolved into this. Theo was removed from his commit privileges to NetBSD for being rude to other developers and users, yet OI won't remove someone from a mailing list for irrational behavior? On Tuesday, September 23,

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE/SPARC: It was a mistake to keep the site online.

2014-09-23 Thread Jonathan Adams
I'm sorry to even be involved in this discussion ... My brother and his wife were removed from viewing and accessing the Church Facebook page in a nasty little spat. 2 people had a falling out, lets call them jack and jill, with jack saying something in the heat of the moment by email. jack was

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE/SPARC: It was a mistake to keep the site online.

2014-09-23 Thread Alan Coopersmith
On 09/23/14 08:05 AM, G B via openindiana-discuss wrote: yet OI won't remove someone from a mailing list for irrational behavior? Don't confuse neglect and lack of an active owner for someone consciously deciding to continue the status quo. Is there anyone around who still actively manages

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE/SPARC: It was a mistake to keep the site online.

2014-09-23 Thread Dave Koelmeyer
On 24/09/14 03:25, Alan Coopersmith wrote: On 09/23/14 08:05 AM, G B via openindiana-discuss wrote: yet OI won't remove someone from a mailing list for irrational behavior? Don't confuse neglect and lack of an active owner for someone consciously deciding to continue the status quo. Is

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE/SPARC: It was a mistake to keep the site online.

2014-09-22 Thread Laurent Blume
Le 2014/09/20 11:15 +0200, Nikola M. a écrit: On 09/15/14 11:20 AM, Krzysztof Grzempa wrote: Well, for me it is mistake to mix up technology with politics. I respects +1 only thing, we can't stop people doing that, we can only ask them to. The off-topic traffic can and should most definitely

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE/SPARC: It was a mistake to keep the site online.

2014-09-22 Thread Nikola M.
On 09/22/14 10:55 AM, Laurent Blume wrote: Le 2014/09/20 11:15 +0200, Nikola M. a écrit: On 09/15/14 11:20 AM, Krzysztof Grzempa wrote: Well, for me it is mistake to mix up technology with politics. I respects +1 only thing, we can't stop people doing that, we can only ask them to. The

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE/SPARC: It was a mistake to keep the site online.

2014-09-22 Thread Laurent Blume
Le 2014/09/22 19:38 +0200, Nikola M. a écrit: Yes. Only discriminating people for their political views (that they express, beside talking on topic subjects) would be also unacceptable. (Beside we generally don't want other politics then software ones). If someone discuss something about

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE/SPARC: It was a mistake to keep the site online.

2014-09-22 Thread G B via openindiana-discuss
That was perfectly stated! And I completely agree that whoever is administering the list needs to end it now. On Monday, September 22, 2014 2:59 PM, Laurent Blume laurent...@elanor.org wrote: Le 2014/09/22 19:38 +0200, Nikola M. a écrit: Yes. Only discriminating people for their

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE

2014-09-20 Thread Dave Koelmeyer
Hi Apostolos On 20/09/14 02:35, Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss wrote: I just wonder whether this is some sort of race or what? I you want to contribute, OK do it. Otherwise, do not it and just let it go. It is pointless to argue about nothing. A.S. He's not going to contribute,

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE

2014-09-20 Thread Nikola M.
On 09/18/14 09:54 AM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: On 18/09/14 07:04, Nikola M. wrote: So much of what he's posting is /so far wide/ of what's acceptable, relevant, or appropriate I can only reasonably conclude you haven't read any of it. Yes I did, and people have wide variety of way of

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE

2014-09-20 Thread Nikola M.
On 09/20/14 08:23 AM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: Hi Apostolos On 20/09/14 02:35, Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss wrote: I just wonder whether this is some sort of race or what? I you want to contribute, OK do it. Otherwise, do not it and just let it go. It is pointless to argue about

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE/SPARC: It was a mistake to keep the site online.

2014-09-20 Thread Nikola M.
On 09/15/14 11:20 AM, Krzysztof Grzempa wrote: Well, for me it is mistake to mix up technology with politics. I respects +1 only thing, we can't stop people doing that, we can only ask them to. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE

2014-09-20 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
He certainly is NOT arguing about nothing imho. It is a very well written piece of background information! Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss mailto:openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org vrijdag 19 september 2014 16:35 Hello, After reading this long message I just wonder whether

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE

2014-09-20 Thread Dave Koelmeyer
On 20/09/2014 8:36 p.m., Nikola M. wrote: I agree there could be more talking about OI and you are free to start topic, but I think OpenSXCE story is fully relevant to Openindiana in wider sense. Would this be the same story we've been hearing ad nauseum for months, by any chance? That is,

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE

2014-09-20 Thread Dormition Skete (Hotmail)
HELLO: If *everyone* would simply *stop posting* to these threads, perhaps they might die… It was a mistake to have said anything at all about OpenSXCE on this list. I had the best of intentions, but as the old saying goes, “The road to hell is paved with good intentions.” Peter had asked

[OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE

2014-09-19 Thread Martin Bochnig
Dave Koelmeyer dave.koelmeyer at davekoelmeyer.co.nz Thu Sep 18 07:54:38 UTC 2014 wrote: http://openindiana.org/pipermail/openindiana-discuss/2014-September/016425.html So much of what he's posting is /so far wide/ of what's acceptable, relevant, or appropriate I can only reasonably conclude

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE

2014-09-19 Thread Dave Koelmeyer
On 19/09/14 18:15, Martin Bochnig wrote: Here a few facts: OpenSXCE is not by any means based on OI or derived from OI. Why, then, are you still here? I_ensure_ you, that OI will never get a single line of my code, I'm fairly sure you've said the same thing at least half a dozen times

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE

2014-09-19 Thread Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss
Hello, After reading this long message You still didn't answer any of my questions. And here are some more: #0.) What do you think gives you the right, to speak for the overall OI (or even OpenSolaris) community, especially in order EXCLUDE A CONTRIBUTOR from it!?? ... many many

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE

2014-09-19 Thread Martin Bochnig
No, it is the question of: What gives somebody a SAY. As a question of action, re-action and a sound mind this can only be earlier contributions. But as I see it, some folks seem to confuse this race of contribution (that it quite naturally is), with shouting often enough and LOUD enough. I'm

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE

2014-09-18 Thread Dave Koelmeyer
On 18/09/14 07:04, Nikola M. wrote: So much of what he's posting is /so far wide/ of what's acceptable, relevant, or appropriate I can only reasonably conclude you haven't read any of it. What I don't need is some meandering post on how we should handle differences of opinion. What I

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE

2014-09-17 Thread Nikola M.
On 09/16/14 10:37 AM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: On 16/09/14 18:58, Martin Bochnig wrote: #0.) You want to stop something by continuing it? I'd very much like you – when you claim you're going to unsubscribe – to actually stick to it. Quite simply, you've become an incredible distraction with

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE

2014-09-16 Thread Dave Koelmeyer
On 16/09/14 04:51, Dave Pooser wrote: I think at this point discussion of OpenSXCE business plans, criticism of the OpenSXCE community development, political discussions, and pretty much any discussion of OpenSXCE (except in the context of features that would be worth re-engineering for

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE

2014-09-16 Thread Martin Bochnig
#0.) You want to stop something by continuing it? #1.) What's _YOUR_ contribution to OpenSolaris, be specific? #2.) Ok, I got it. OI _really_ does not want to get any src from me. Then those responsible for alienating me should provide a worthy replacement by hacking OpenSXCE's functionality

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE

2014-09-16 Thread Dave Koelmeyer
On 16/09/14 18:58, Martin Bochnig wrote: #0.) You want to stop something by continuing it? I'd very much like you – when you claim you're going to unsubscribe – to actually stick to it. Quite simply, you've become an incredible distraction with these ongoing posts, and I'd like the

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE

2014-09-16 Thread Martin Bochnig
Yet another time you wrote something. Something without technical content and of little if any relevance. Reading help: I had stated repeatedly, that I needed to re-subscribe in order to put a few things right, then unsubscribe again. As proof I have the confirmation messages. Also: Browse the

[OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE

2014-09-16 Thread Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss
Hello, I am not really following every detail of the OpenSXCE debate but I would like to say that we are definitely a very small community and we cannot afford to lose anyone who can contribute to the development of the operating system and the desktop environment. In addition, since we are a

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE

2014-09-16 Thread Alexander Pyhalov
Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss писал 16.09.2014 23:24: Hello, I am not really following every detail of the OpenSXCE debate but I would like to say that we are definitely a very small community and we cannot afford to lose anyone who can contribute to the development of the

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE

2014-09-16 Thread Alex Smith (K4RNT)
If sufficient documentation is available, I'd be willing to offer the two SPARC systems I have as build systems, once I get working again. I'd have to hang on to them, though... I have a Sun Blade 2500 Red, as well as a Sun Fire V125, unfortunately they are both only UltraSPARC III powered, would

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE It is illegal to sell without source code.

2014-09-15 Thread Martin Bochnig
As security concerns were brought onto the plate, as argument, I would like to warn all my friends, fellows and really all of you: Are you aware of this, btw? http://cryptome.org/2013/12/Full-Disclosure.pdf With detailed technical explanations and verifyable proof (I did not test, because I

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE/SPARC: It was a mistake to keep the site online.

2014-09-15 Thread Krzysztof Grzempa
Well, for me it is mistake to mix up technology with politics. I respects the right of having opinion (everybody has it right?) but I strongly belive that it should be separate from technology blog where expectation was to find technical data about the distro.. Well, if you decide to drop the

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE It is illegal to sell without source code.

2014-09-15 Thread Dmitry Kozhinov
In weeks and months and YEARS nobody ever came who bought it from me. That is, you blame evil users in your commercial fail. They all conspired. Maybe in reality there is no demand for your product? Give me everything you got paid for your job from 2006 till 2014. NOW! What is this? A

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE

2014-09-15 Thread Dave Pooser
I think at this point discussion of OpenSXCE business plans, criticism of the OpenSXCE community development, political discussions, and pretty much any discussion of OpenSXCE (except in the context of features that would be worth re-engineering for OpenIndiana) would all count as off-topic for

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE It is illegal to sell without source code.

2014-09-15 Thread Martin Bochnig
@Dmitry Kozhinov: You appear to be slightly confused. Such community members like you make it easy for me to stop my efforts. If you still didn't get it, or if you are new to Solaris: Everybody who ever saw my CV (or who is a true OpenSolaris community member and knows me for a decade) knows, that

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE

2014-09-15 Thread Martin Bochnig
For the LAST TIME: Leave me alone with Fucking Business Plans So far every idiot could download it for free. Now I was forced to stop these downloads, because of licensing advice. Honest fair friends donated, the others just took it (500GB in August alone, as my USA friend Al Hopper warned me).

[OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE/SPARC: It was a mistake to keep the site online.

2014-09-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
It was a mistake to keep the site online. Cordial thanks nevertheless to the few fellows, who have proven to be true friends. And although I wanted to publish the src long ago (and in fact did contribute openly [in real-time openly] from 2005 till 2009), now that's the final nail in the

[OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE It is illegal to sell without source code.

2014-09-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
http://openindiana.org/pipermail/oi-dev/2014-September/003355.html [oi-dev] OpenSXCE It is illegal to sell without source code. Nikola M. minikola at gmail.com Sun Sep 14 19:13:42 UTC 2014 Well, you UNIX Admin who only works for $$$. You damn person are beginning to make me REALLY DAMN ANGRY!

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE

2014-09-08 Thread Dormition Skete (Hotmail)
I really hesitated to post anything about OpenSXCE because I didn’t want to open people up to another Martin-bashing contest. And immediately after hitting the “Send” button, I had the thought, “I really should have sent that privately to Peter.” But that thought came just a hair too late,

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE

2014-09-08 Thread Nikola M.
On 09/ 8/14 08:25 PM, Dormition Skete (Hotmail) wrote: I really hesitated to post anything about OpenSXCE because I didn’t want to open people up to another Martin- Yeah, maybe that is the case, software and source and what is actually being done, that people appreciate. In my case main

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE: To live or to die

2014-05-22 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
On 06/ 5/13 01:01 AM, Christopher Chan wrote: Yes, I think he has been banned or something. He twittered to that effect if you check. The details for donating should be on the iso or something. I think I saw he ,like, unsubscribed himself. If he was banned, that would be very bad and I think

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE: To live or to die

2014-05-20 Thread Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Martin Bochnig martin at martux.org writes: How to build stuff or packages? As long as no sponsor helps us, maybe I never release ANY src. If you wish more people getting an interest in your project, and to make your own development cycle much easier, i suggest you to bake and release

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE 2013.05 for SPARC released

2013-06-21 Thread Daniel Kjar
Great! Downloading now. On 06/20/13 01:50 PM, ken mays wrote: Greetings, OpenSXCE2013.05 for SPARC EA was just RELEASED. Notable achievements: - Live DVD, Text, USB, and virtual HD versions - Fully modernized PCI/USB device driver hardware data support for SPARC platform - Dtrace support -

[OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE 2013.05 for SPARC released

2013-06-20 Thread ken mays
Greetings, OpenSXCE2013.05 for SPARC EA was just RELEASED. Notable achievements: - Live DVD, Text, USB, and virtual HD versions - Fully modernized PCI/USB device driver hardware data support for SPARC platform - Dtrace support - QEMU/KVM 1.5.0 support - LDOM server virtualization and

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE 2013.05 for SPARC released

2013-06-20 Thread Saso Kiselkov
On 20/06/2013 18:50, ken mays wrote: Greetings, OpenSXCE2013.05 for SPARC EA was just RELEASED. Notable achievements: - Live DVD, Text, USB, and virtual HD versions - Fully modernized PCI/USB device driver hardware data support for SPARC platform - Dtrace support - QEMU/KVM 1.5.0

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE: To live or to die

2013-06-04 Thread Christopher Chan
Yes, I think he has been banned or something. He twittered to that effect if you check. The details for donating should be on the iso or something. On Wednesday, June 05, 2013 05:55 AM, Jonathan Adams wrote: I get the impression, from another thread, that he might not be getting messages from

[OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE: To live or to die

2013-06-03 Thread Martin Bochnig
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[OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE on T1000?

2013-02-10 Thread Ray Arachelian
So, how would I go about installing OpenSXCE on a T1000? Is there some sort of jumpstart available for it? In the past, I've attempted to hook up a SATA DVD drive to my T1000, but I couldn't get it booting, even after messing with the openboot-prom devaliases.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE on T1000?

2013-02-10 Thread Dave McGuire
On 02/10/2013 04:33 PM, Ray Arachelian wrote: So, how would I go about installing OpenSXCE on a T1000? Is there some sort of jumpstart available for it? In the past, I've attempted to hook up a SATA DVD drive to my T1000, but I couldn't get it booting, even after messing with the

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE on T1000?

2013-02-10 Thread Sašo Kiselkov
On 02/10/2013 10:33 PM, Ray Arachelian wrote: So, how would I go about installing OpenSXCE on a T1000? Is there some sort of jumpstart available for it? In the past, I've attempted to hook up a SATA DVD drive to my T1000, but I couldn't get it booting, even after messing with the

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE on T1000?

2013-02-10 Thread ken mays
You can set up an automated installer on a laptop with OpenIndiana and have it point to OpenSXCE image in the drive...then on the T1000 boot menu do a boot net install. You can also do HD image installs. -- On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 5:01 PM EST Ray Arachelian wrote:

[OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE will live

2013-02-07 Thread Martin Bochnig
Dear community, I'm posting this from an Internet Cafe. Did everything work for you? As I just saw in my Inbox, I have been told that on some boxes there is an ugly cosmetical bug with icewm's background image. This sounds like endianness related (depending on which gfx card/driver you use).

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE will live

2013-02-07 Thread Sašo Kiselkov
On 02/07/2013 02:17 PM, Martin Bochnig wrote: Dear community, I'm posting this from an Internet Cafe. Hi Martin, great to hear from you again! Did everything work for you? I'm currently getting the SPARC build farm for Illumos up and running. So far, your distro is running like a champ, no