Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] problem adding a mirror disk to rpool

2023-01-02 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Partition the disk so you have a partition that matches the size of your other disks in the pool. Then mount that partition. On Monday, January 2, 2023, 08:31:38 PM CST, Marc Lobelle wrote: Hello, First, Best wished for 2023 to everybody ! I tried to add a second 480Gb disk to my

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Any reasons tree /export/home/USERS shouldn't be moved to a different pool

2022-01-12 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Absolutely none. I have all of /export in epool. The default configuration produced by the installer is intended to keep new users out of trouble. It's a tad aggressive about that and can cause an experienced user some annoyance. I allocate space for the root pool based on the expectation of

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] CDE...

2021-12-19 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I figured out how it worked so I could run twm instead. I can't think of a piece of software I hated more than Motif. On Sunday, December 19, 2021, 07:13:25 PM CST, Judah Richardson wrote: I remember using this on Sun workstations in college back when I was learning Fortran. My

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Why are DOS executables being installed?

2021-06-22 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I'm working on system image audit tools and found these in 2021.04.30: /usr/lib/python3.5/distutils/command/wininst-9.0-amd64.exe: DOS executable (EXE) /usr/lib/python3.5/distutils/command/wininst-9.0.exe: DOS executable (EXE) /usr/lib/python3.5/distutils/command/wininst-8.0.exe: DOS

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Dangling symlinks in 2021.04.30?

2021-06-22 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Are these dangling links or are they used to dynamically redirect things and missing another link? /usr/share/lib/sgml/locale/ja_JP.UTF-8/entities:symbolic link to ../C/entities /usr/share/lib/sgml/locale/ja_JP.UTF-8/transpec/roff.cmap: symbolic link to ../../C/transpec/roff.cmap

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] More 2021.04.30 strangeness

2021-06-22 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
wrote: Hi Everyone Can you check that library/desktop/libgksu and desktop/gksu are installed? Those are the most problematic candidates to be missing. -Till On 21.06.21 17:34, Gary Mills wrote: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 08:17:57PM +0000, Reginald Beardsley via > openindiana-discuss

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] More 2021.04.30 strangeness

2021-06-21 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: > FYI  I wrapped both caja and mate-session with "truss -f -o". Neither output > contains the "Initializing gksu extensions" string.  ... Note that you usually don't see full strings in truss output, those are printed usually as si

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] More 2021.04.30 strangeness

2021-06-21 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
ote: Hi Everyone Can you check that library/desktop/libgksu and desktop/gksu are installed? Those are the most problematic candidates to be missing. -Till On 21.06.21 17:34, Gary Mills wrote: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 08:17:57PM +, Reginald Beardsley via > openindiana-discuss

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] More 2021.04.30 strangeness

2021-06-21 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
FYI I wrapped both caja and mate-session with "truss -f -o". Neither output contains the "Initializing gksu extensions" string. I have created OI issue #13895 to provide a place for a subset of the truss output between consecutive excve()s of caja. Total output before I could kill the

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] More 2021.04.30 strangeness

2021-06-21 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
The problems I was having appear to have been caused by caja restarting. The system stayed up with the mouse functional overnight. Before I disabled caja it would lock up the cursor in an hour or less. I'll wrap caja with a script that runs "truss -f -o" to find out why it is failing and do

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] More 2021.04.30 strangeness

2021-06-20 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Tim, Thanks. I don't have the gl-helper stuff anywhere. I'd never seen that message before either. This is the LiveImage text install to an existing pool so I could do both RAIDZ2 and RAIDZ1. So it *is* a bit different. I had to create dump and swap among other things. I found via top that

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] More 2021.04.30 strangeness

2021-06-20 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
to find out if I still have a problem or if "unset autologout" and disabling caja resolved it. A search using find in /etc & /root did not locate where autologout was set. Reg On Sunday, June 20, 2021, 04:59:28 PM CDT, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote:

[OpenIndiana-discuss] More 2021.04.30 strangeness

2021-06-20 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I've started to transition all my computing to 2021.04.30 on the Z840. I created a pair of pools, one with primary-cache=all and one with primary-cache=metadata. The first is 4.3 TB RAIDZ2 and the second 3.8 TB RAIDZ1. It's a 4x 4 TB disk set with a 1 TB NVMe SSD for the L2ARC, split 980 GB

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [discuss] Re: NVMe SSD

2021-06-18 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
y, June 18, 2021, 01:51:07 PM CDT, Tony Brian Albers wrote: Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: > I just added a 1 TB WD SN750 NVMe SSD to my Z840 running Hipster 2021.04.31.  > Now I need to set it up. > > I have read the FreeBSD Master volumes by Lucas a

[OpenIndiana-discuss] NVMe SSD

2021-06-16 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I just added a 1 TB WD SN750 NVMe SSD to my Z840 running Hipster 2021.04.31. Now I need to set it up. I have read the FreeBSD Master volumes by Lucas and Jude on the subject, but the information is skimpy. A search didn't turn up much that is relevant and less still that is useful. I want

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [oi-dev] OI Foundation

2021-05-26 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I just want a way to contribute money to support OI/Illumos. TANSTAFL I was going to suggest one of the commercial Illumos based companies managing OI specific work with whatever money was provided and taking a cut to offset the cost of managing it. All I want it a way to provide $200-$250

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [oi-dev] OI Foundation

2021-05-26 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Do we need an OI specific organization? Why could this not be handled by the existing Illumos Foundation? That was what I was going to propose. We're using the same base OS. So far as I know, OI just adds GUI support. So having the Illumos Foundation simply maintain a ledger entry for OI

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [oi-dev] OI Foundation

2021-05-26 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Thanks for offering to do this. I've been pondering how to hire human resources to support OI, but somewhat reluctant to post about it as I tried 8-10 years ago without success. I am *very* interested in contributing money to such an organization on an annual basis at around $200/yr. In

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] We need install images which work!

2021-05-04 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I did just that. I hit "install" took the defaults, did a reboot and got "non-system disk or disk error". Z840 and 4 TB disk. I got that result with both 2020.10.31 and 2021.04.30. What I did is *exactly* what most new users would do. I just checked the other stuff to see if the image was

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] We need install images which work!

2021-05-04 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
is very out of date. Reg On Tuesday, May 4, 2021, 03:04:56 PM CDT, Joshua M. Clulow wrote: On Tue, 4 May 2021 at 12:44, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: >  I'd be glad to fix them if I knew where the files that need to be modified >were located. Please enlighten me

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] We need install images which work!

2021-05-04 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
On Tuesday, May 4, 2021, 01:21:21 PM CDT, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Tue, 4 May 2021, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: > > All of these issues are also present in 2020.10.31 and possibly > older releases.  This is a huge deterrent to new users.  None of > the

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] We have install images which work!

2021-05-04 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I was doing bare metal on an HP Z840. Does anyone know of any documentation on the VBox boot process? It's obviously not running the BIOS initial loader to read the first sector on the disk. Reg On Tuesday, May 4, 2021, 01:35:59 PM CDT, epektasis wrote: FWIW, I downloaded the

[OpenIndiana-discuss] We need install images which work!

2021-05-04 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I'm going to try one more time. --- The 2021.04.30 GUI Live Image has major problems. gparted(1m) dumps core the documentation mentioned on the first GUI installer screen is missing

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Rolling release considered harmful

2021-05-03 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
A response to a couple of Judah's posts. I experiment with many operating systems including Plan 9 for which I got one of the first release floppies at Usenix '95 and chatted about it with Dennis for about 20-30 minutes. My interest in OI is not curiosity. I want a stable, industrial strength

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Multiboot on PC

2021-05-03 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I have a laptop that boots XP, Linux and Solaris. That cost me about a dozen install attempts to make work. Then I never used it as I was able to avoid traveling. Subsequently I've always simply swapped hard drives when I wanted to switch the OS. I did recently set up to dual boot Windows 7

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Rolling release considered harmful

2021-05-03 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I just finished running the graphic installer on 2020.10.31 and 2021.04.30 ISOs. It would be an understatement to say the results were not good. 1) The documentation mentioned on the first screen is missing as noted previously 2) The release notes button produces a "unable to display release

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Multiboot on PC

2021-05-03 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Yes it is possible, however, it can be tricky preventing one installer from stepping on another OS. In particular Linux and Solaris partitions use the same number to denote partition type. The way around that is to use fdisk to change the partition type to DOS or similar, install and then fix

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Recommended way to migrate to a new release?

2021-05-03 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Alan is, of course, correct. You can't have *all* of them fixed in a code base as large as a modern OS. But you can fix the important stuff. And what a prospective user experiences when they boot the Live Image and attempt an install is critical. When experienced people have major problems

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Recommended way to migrate to a new release?

2021-05-02 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System McKusick, Neville-Neil & Watson Addison-Wesley 2015 2nd ed Chapter 10: The Zettabyte Filesystem It's only 26 pages, but it's the only description of the internals of ZFS I've been able to find. The FreeBSD Mastery books on ZFS by

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Recommended way to migrate to a new release?

2021-05-01 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
can install it from the snapshot medias. Historically it was also a point, where we could snapshot the Repo so people could jump between publishers, but that has changed. -Till On 01.05.21 20:05, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: >  > So if I do a "pkg update" after

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Recommended way to migrate to a new release?

2021-05-01 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
th wrote: On 5/1/21 3:31 PM, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: > I tried a text-install of 2021.04.30  into an existing 2020.10.31 pool, but > the user information didn't propagate to the new BE.  Is this a bug, install > mistake or the wrong way to update? The wrong way

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Hipster 2021.04 is here

2021-05-01 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Thanks! On Saturday, May 1, 2021, 05:25:16 PM CDT, Joshua M. Clulow wrote: On Sat, 1 May 2021 at 10:05, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: > How about a pkg or explicit instructions (e.g. a shell script) for setting up > to be able to generate an ISO?

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Recommended way to migrate to a new release?

2021-05-01 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I tried a text-install of 2021.04.30  into an existing 2020.10.31 pool, but the user information didn't propagate to the new BE.  Is this a bug, install mistake or the wrong way to update? All the stuff I found on the wiki was quite old.  Nothing discussed updates from one Hipster release to

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Hipster 2021.04 is here

2021-05-01 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
On Saturday, May 1, 2021, 09:16:45 AM CDT, Andreas Wacknitz wrote: [snip] >I want to use this announcement to remind everybody that we are seeking >for volunteers who help us to maintain OpenIndiana. >Kind regards, >Andreas How about a pkg or explicit instructions (e.g. a shell script) for

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Partitions for co-exist NAS drive

2021-05-01 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
on this. I really do appreciate it. Michelle. On Sat, 2021-05-01 at 16:23 +, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana- discuss wrote: >  I just installed the 2021.04.30 text ISO on my Z400 test system. The > disk had a pool in a single slice which I imported and destroyed. Had > I

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Partitions for co-exist NAS drive

2021-05-01 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
ever, I've just noted that I wasn't using the -e at the end of the format command, so after I've made dinner I'll read up on that switch in the hope that this is what will enable me to create the larger Solaris partition. Michelle. On Sat, 2021-05-01 at 14:04 +, Reginald Beardsley via o

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Partitions for co-exist NAS drive

2021-05-01 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
and on that, I can't create a Solaris partition greater than 2tb. I've got the GUI live image here somewhere. Michelle. On Sat, 2021-05-01 at 13:50 +, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana- discuss wrote: >  What release are you trying to install? I last did this using > 2021.04.05, but I can easily

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Partitions for co-exist NAS drive

2021-05-01 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Michelle, What disks are you trying to use? If they are different sizes the recipe gets a bit more complex, but it's quite possible to get any arrangement for which you have a sufficient number of disks. Having spent 50 hours over 5 days battling the 2021.04.05 install I've had *lots* of

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Partitions for co-exist NAS drive

2021-05-01 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
won't > > co-exist with anything and wants to wipe the whole disk again. > > > > Michelle. > > MBR and GPT can not co-exist. On this disk, you need GPT and this > means, MBR partitions will be removed. > > Rgds, > Toomas > > > > > > On S

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Partitions for co-exist NAS drive

2021-05-01 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Toomas, Thanks for the explanation. That certainly sounds like a good idea. It provides lots of flexibility. It would nice if the text-installer allowed specifying the BE name when creating a fresh pool or defaulted to the release, e.g. 2021.04, instead of openindiana. The latter is not very

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Partitions for co-exist NAS drive

2021-05-01 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I just went through several iterations of this, and like you the last time I had done it was long ago. The following is based on 2021.04.05. Large disks require an EFI or GPT label. The gparted program creates 128 slices which is a bit much. format(1m) will also write an EFI label which is

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Does anyone have an example of service manifest XML file for znapzend?

2021-04-30 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
You might try looking at the Solaris 11.1 documentation. I downloaded all of it to my iPad today, but have not read it yet. I found the smf facility rather opaque when I started looking at the files in /lib/svc. Not a good answer, but it's all I know at present. Similarly, I want to do

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI on USB flash drive

2021-04-30 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
ri, 2021-04-30 at 20:00 +0000, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana- > discuss wrote: >>  Try selecting the "reconfigure" option when you first boot the >> installed image. >> >> It is *supposed* to reconfigure, but I spent 50 hrs before I found &g

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI on USB flash drive

2021-04-30 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
the first time after the install. It came up all the way when I hit ^d at the single user prompt. Reg On Friday, April 30, 2021, 04:21:19 PM CDT, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: I've started an install of 2021.04.05 to a 32 GB flash drive on a Z400. I'll see if that provides any

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI on USB flash drive

2021-04-30 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
. On Fri, 2021-04-30 at 20:00 +, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana- discuss wrote: >  Try selecting the "reconfigure" option when you first boot the > installed image. > > It is *supposed* to reconfigure, but I spent 50 hrs before I found > out how to get 2021.04.05 to

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI on USB flash drive

2021-04-30 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Try selecting the "reconfigure" option when you first boot the installed image. It is *supposed* to reconfigure, but I spent 50 hrs before I found out how to get 2021.04.05 to boot after the install. I thought the issue was the particular nVIDIA driver, but that was not the case. I also got

[OpenIndiana-discuss] X startup/shutdown questions

2021-04-27 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
What service starts the MATE environment? I've been unable to locate what starts that. And generally unable to determine how exactly what any service does is specified. I'd expected "init 2" in single user mode to take me to multi-user console mode, but it did not. However, I was able to

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VBox on top of Hipster and twm?

2021-04-27 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
, Stephan Althaus wrote: On 04/27/21 12:19 AM, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: > I'd like to run Hipster in a VBox VM for web access with twm as the window > manager for the host. > > Is this likely to be possible, i.e. how much window manager stuff does VBo

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] TeX Live 2021 available for OpenIndiana

2021-04-26 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I should also like to thank you. I use groff and TeX. Groff for short memoranda and TeX for almost everything else. Reading the old Bell Labs papers I fell in love with the style they used for technical papers. Have Fun! Reg On Monday, April 26, 2021, 07:33:29 PM CDT, Jason Martin

[OpenIndiana-discuss] VBox on top of Hipster and twm?

2021-04-26 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I'd like to run Hipster in a VBox VM for web access with twm as the window manager for the host. Is this likely to be possible, i.e. how much window manager stuff does VBox require? If not I can revert to using 2 window managers, but I'd rather not if I can avoid the added complexity and

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI-hipster-gui-20210405.iso and OVirt/QEMU status report

2021-04-26 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Nelson, Thank you for testing this. I elected to install 2020.10 to use as a base for learning how to update the system without reinstalling if that is possible. I *think* the network menu bar icon is supposed to start /usr/lib/nwam-manager. I get a dialog popup using 2020.10 that asks for

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Initial install of 2020.10 on Z840 for production use

2021-04-25 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
ROFL! I just noticed I didn't speciy a count. It had written 5.5 TB at over 200 MB/s and would have continued until I filled all 6.7 TB of space. I assume *nothing* about computers. I assert that the difference between a senior and junior person is the junior person makes assumptions that the

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Initial install of 2020.10 on Z840 for production use

2021-04-25 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
= 0x60854df5 0x34e6fb59 rhb@Z840:~$ On Sunday, April 25, 2021, 04:27:12 PM CDT, Joshua M. Clulow wrote: On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 at 13:46, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: > I've done a fresh install using the text installer on a 14 core E5-2680 V4 > system with 72 GB

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Initial install of 2020.10 on Z840 for production use

2021-04-25 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Here's some info. The dd of /dev/zero is still running after almost 6 hours which is mind boggling, because before the 2020.10 install 2021.01-rc1 did it in ~1:11. I want to let it finish before I take it down and pull the 8 GB DIMM. It's quite singular. I've never seen anything like this

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Initial install of 2020.10 on Z840 for production use

2021-04-25 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I've done a fresh install using the text installer on a 14 core E5-2680 V4 system with 72 GB of ECC DRAM and a 4x 4 TB 7200 rpm RAIDZ2 array. With reconfigure set on the post install boot it all came up fine. The prior install of 2021.04-rc1 gave ~220 MB/s for reads and writes and 87 MB/s for

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-25 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I have been using labelclear which is a huge improvement. In the past I had to write a script to do it using dd. So far I've been unable to find a good diagram showing the various disk labels, boot blocks, etc. The best documentation I've found to date is the ZFS chapter in McKusick et al.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-24 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
FWIW I saw the messages that Nelson posted at the start of this discussion on systems that booted. However, they very likely had relic zfs labels. I've had mysterious "corrupted pools" appear which I was only able to fix by using dd(1) to wipe out the old label. I've come to the conclusion

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-23 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I should like to say that from my perspective as the person who started this thread I consider your results 100% successful. My goal was to increase the involvement of the user community in the process of creating a new release. It is a tremendous amount of work and many of us such as myself

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Successfull reboot of 2021.04-rc1 on Z840 w/ K5000 :-)

2021-04-23 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
ng to fix the SEGVs in format(1m). Have Fun! Reg On Friday, April 23, 2021, 03:37:30 PM CDT, Judah Richardson wrote: On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 2:43 PM Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: It *appears* to be connected with selecting options 5, 6 & 7 before boot

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Successfull reboot of 2021.04-rc1 on Z840 w/ K5000 :-)

2021-04-23 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
T, Stephan Althaus wrote: On 04/23/21 09:42 PM, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: > It *appears* to be connected with selecting options 5, 6 & 7 before booting > to multi-user.  I'll investigate further after it's been running a while.  > I'm supposed have 64

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Successfull reboot of 2021.04-rc1 on Z840 w/ K5000 :-)

2021-04-23 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
It *appears* to be connected with selecting options 5, 6 & 7 before booting to multi-user. I'll investigate further after it's been running a while. I'm supposed have 64 GB of DRAM arrive today. I'm purely guessing, but I suspect that the "Reconfigure" option is what made it work. This

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] zpool import not possible after slot change

2021-04-23 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I'll get an older machine which is less likely to have driver issues. Reg On Thursday, April 22, 2021, 11:15:13 PM CDT, Joshua M. Clulow wrote: On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 at 19:10, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: > I do *not* understand why there is any justification for re

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-23 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Apr 2021, at 01:57, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: What do those mean? I have seen them numerous times even though the system booted. On Thursday, April 22, 2021, 05:46:30 PM CDT, Nelson H. F. Beebe wrote: ZFS: i/o error - all block copies unavailable I/O error me

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] zpool import not possible after slot change

2021-04-22 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
and so they randomly break things of which they are unaware. Reg On Thursday, April 22, 2021, 08:54:14 PM CDT, wrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2021, at 1:15 PM, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: >  I ran into this a long time ago trying to set up a ZFS image on a USB >

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
What do those mean? I have seen them numerous times even though the system booted. On Thursday, April 22, 2021, 05:46:30 PM CDT, Nelson H. F. Beebe wrote: ZFS: i/o error - all block copies unavailable ZFS: can't read MOS of pool rpool ___

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I'll give that route a try if the current text install from the Desktop fails. I updated the BIOS and that stopped Solaris 11.4 from booting :-( What a mess. So I figured worth a shot trying 2021.04-rc1 again. Reg On Thursday, April 22, 2021, 04:49:31 PM CDT, Tim Mooney via

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
The text-install ISO doesn't have a windowing system on it. I don't know if there is anything analogous to the Solaris 11.4 "solaris-desktop " pkg. On Thursday, April 22, 2021, 04:21:01 PM CDT, Nelson H. F. Beebe wrote: Following my report earlier today of problems installing the

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Z840 "fun". At least Solaris 11.4 works :-)

2021-04-22 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I decided that I'd had all of battling OI I could stand for now. I tried installing Debian 10.9, but it would not boot from a 4 TB disk. I guessed that when I saw the "install GRUB" dialog. But, you don't know until you try. I installed Solaris 11.4 to a single disk and did a "pkg install

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] zpool import not possible after slot change

2021-04-22 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I ran into this a long time ago trying to set up a ZFS image on a USB drive for a laptop. Ultimately I gave up as it had to be plugged into the "correct" USB port and that seemed to change unpredictably. Reg On Thursday, April 22, 2021, 03:01:03 PM CDT, Stephan Althaus wrote: Hello!

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Panics but no dumps ???

2021-04-22 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Because of a message about VTOCs and needing an EFI label I relabeled the disks, created a RAIDZ2 pool and installed to an existing pool. I then booted single user, setup dump and swap. It crashed but no dump. Not even a panic message in messages. A 2nd crash did write a panic message and

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
DT, Toomas Soome wrote: VESA only can work when adapter does have VESA/VGA bios. With UEFI, there is no requirement to have it. Sent from my iPhone > On 22. Apr 2021, at 16:26, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss > wrote: > >  > VESA *does* work with a UEFI bo

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Some internals questions

2021-04-22 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Do kernel modules load in a consistent order? Where is the code that creates the symlinks in /var/run, when is it supposed to run and what determines the timing? On the first boot of 2021.04_rc1 after install, the X server can't find libglk.so. I stopped in single user mode and rewrote the

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
VESA *does* work with a UEFI boot. I had 2020.10 booting from a 4x 4 TB RAIDZ2 pool using the VESA driver before I tried to boot 2021.04_rc1. On Thursday, April 22, 2021, 08:07:18 AM CDT, Gary Mills wrote: This is a known broken configuration of OI. It cannot work. The VESA driver is a

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
There are very few developers. As a consequence responsibility for testing must fall on the regular user community. It should in any case for the simple reason that installation on physical hardware is more of an issue than on a VM and no one can support very many physical machines. I have a

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-21 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I've been referring to this as 2021.04_rc1 for 2 weeks. We need to formalize what most others do and have a release candidate process where people test the images before a formal release. Expecting the people building them to do it is simply not reasonable. They are already quite busy and

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-21 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
of symlinks as bandaids too many times. Reg On Wednesday, April 21, 2021, 07:09:00 PM CDT, Gary Mills wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 11:29:55PM +, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: > I'm trying to bring up OI on Oracle Solaris 11 certified hardware. > 2020.10 c

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-21 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
That is what I've been fighting with for 3 days. On Wednesday, April 21, 2021, 06:40:15 PM CDT, John D Groenveld wrote: In message , Jacob Ritorto writes: >and I do have one shitty pc (HP Z400) I can add to the fray.  Please let me >know how I can be useful. Can you install from the

[OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-21 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I'm extremely concerned about the situation I've encountered. I'm trying to bring up OI on Oracle Solaris 11 certified hardware. 2020.10 crashes booting the Desktop Live Image. The 2021.04_rc1 Live Image works fine, but the installed image crashes on reboot. This is disastrous for the future

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] 2021.04_rc1 on Z840 crashes after install

2021-04-21 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Thanks. I just finished logging all the directories, symlinks, files and file md5sums for the Live Image using find and have started another text install. When that completes I'll repeat the process on the installed image before I reboot. Then I'll do it again in single user mode on the

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] 2021.04_rc1 on Z840 crashes after install

2021-04-21 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
. Is that likely to cause a crash? I don't understand what is causing it to load the vesa driver as it doesn't seem to find an xorg.conf file and uses a builtin. Reg On Wednesday, April 21, 2021, 02:59:30 PM CDT, Alan Coopersmith wrote: On 4/21/21 12:51 PM, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] 2021.04_rc1 on Z840 crashes after install

2021-04-21 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
A bit more information. There are symlinks in /usr/lib/xorg that point to symlinks in /var/run which point back to /usr/X11 on the Desktop Live Image. The /var/run links are not present on the installed system. 4294943905 1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Apr 5 17:33

[OpenIndiana-discuss] 2021.04_rc1 on Z840 crashes after install

2021-04-21 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
The Desktop Live Image boots properly from the GUI iso, however on reboot it crashes. I collected log files along the way single_user_from_DVD all_before_install post_install_before_reboot single_user_after_reboot single_user_after_crash log files posted to #13706. An initial look at the

[OpenIndiana-discuss] HP Z840/K5000 fun :-(

2021-04-20 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
2020.10 will only run the Desktop in 1024x768 using VESA. An install will boot in 1024x768, but I've been unable to sort out how to get the 390 driver to install in place of the 340 driver. I was able to do the reverse with 2021.04_rc1, but either I forgot a step or something is different.

[OpenIndiana-discuss] WTF?

2021-04-20 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
The nvidia-340 driver caused a kernel panic on my Z840 with a Quadro K5000 when I ran nvidia-xconfig. So I booted single user, attempted to uninstall it, but pkg wouldn't let me until I also uninstalled xorg-video. But when I tried to install nvidia-390 I generated a series of "requires

[OpenIndiana-discuss] x86 boot loader

2021-04-19 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Is it actually written in forth? I just learned of it today. I'm a long time forth fan. Reg ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] RAIDZ2 root pool install fun :-(

2021-04-19 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
With the information in the link John posted I was able to get Hipster 2020.10 to install into a RAIDZ2 pool using almost all of the 4 TB disks via the text installer on the GUI Live Image. There's a 250 MB "SYSTEM" slice on each disk, but that's about $0.01 USD today. I still need to deal

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] RAIDZ2 root pool install fun :-(

2021-04-19 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
FYI I created the pool manually before installing into an existing pool as well as the dump and swap volumes afterwards. I was not aware of the other options in the text installer. I'll try those on the Z840. rhb@NL40:~$ zfs list NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT rpool 11.5G 3.40T 180K /rpool

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] RAIDZ2 root pool install fun :-(

2021-04-19 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
lems when I tried last. Although that was 1-2 years ago. So it might work now. But I have not yet seen any installation with RAIDZ2 as root it's quite rare. -Till On 19.04.21 18:23, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: > I did an install of 2020.10 from a text USB stick on an

[OpenIndiana-discuss] RAIDZ2 root pool install fun :-(

2021-04-19 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I did an install of 2020.10 from a text USB stick on an HP NL40 with a 4x 2 TB RAIDZ2 root pool this morning without any issues. My Z840 showed up and things have not gone well. After a bit of BIOS fubar I was able to create a RAIDZ2 pool, but the pseudo device names were very long.

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing to a RAIDZ2 root pool How-To

2021-04-18 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
It is my understanding that we can now boot from a RAIDZ pool. Are there any known limitations? I looked at the wiki and I didn't see any instructions related to booting from a RAIDZ pool or installing into a RAIDZ pool. It looks pretty straight forward, but there are some details that

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] New system planning comments

2021-04-18 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
My use cases for VMs are running CAD and EDA software on Win 7 and Debian and Firefox on Hipster so a local display is essential. I have no application for a server other than to do backups. Reg On Sunday, April 18, 2021, 07:46:22 AM CDT, Carl Brewer wrote: On 18/04/2021 9:44 pm,

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Scientific packages for OI

2021-04-17 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Robert's suggestion of Anaconda got me to thinking about maintaining some IPS packages for OI. I typically build from source and have an /app tree with symlinks from bin, lib, etc to the actual files so I can flip from one release to another with a couple of commands. I've used the scheme

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] New system planning comments

2021-04-17 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
://www.ch.cam.ac.uk/computing/software/anaconda-scientific-python-distribution On 17/04/2021 18:24, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: > I'm about to set up  an HP Z840 with 1x 14 core E5-2690 V4,  a 4x 4 TB RAIDZ2 > array and 4x 16 GB ECC DIMMs. > > The dbx implementation in th

[OpenIndiana-discuss] New system planning comments

2021-04-17 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I'm about to set up an HP Z840 with 1x 14 core E5-2690 V4, a 4x 4 TB RAIDZ2 array and 4x 16 GB ECC DIMMs. The dbx implementation in the Oracle/Sun/Forte compiler suite is the only debugger I've encountered which will evaluate F77 intrinsics on the command line. This is immensely valuable to

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How is this possible? (Solved]

2021-04-16 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
To summarize: I swapped PSUs and graphics cards including putting the card from #3 in #4 I booted from the 2020.10 hard disk and Live Image I swapped the KVM cables and ports I tried the other PCIe slot that will take the graphics card. I put a scope on the 5 V and 12 V rails. After all

[OpenIndiana-discuss] How is this possible?

2021-04-16 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I have a pair of almost identical Z400s. (In total I have 4.) One has 4x 2 GB DIMMs (#3) and the other has 2x 8 GB DIMMs (#4) . Both have Quadro FX 1800 cards and trayless SATA bays. Both are connected to the monitor through an 8 port KVM switch. Hipster 2020.10 was installed on system #3.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Where do ECC errors get logged?

2021-04-12 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
OK guys, I think I know where to look now. Thanks! With a recipe from Andy Fiddaman I was able to build format(1m). It took rather a long time to get things set up, so I decided to pull the trigger on a replacement for my aging Z400s. I just bought an HP Z840 on ebay with a 14 core E5-2690

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [discuss] [developer] Illumos/OI development system installation

2021-04-10 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Kent, Thank you for a very informative reply. My interest is a desktop. Were there seismic work I'd be interested in a server. Actually, a lot of them. But that world is dominated now by Linux and with almost no revenue in the seismic industry, that won't change. Because most scientists

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Illumos/OI development system installation

2021-04-10 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
file. I told the client that I didn't charge unless I had to sit down. Build ran a very large regression test suite. Reg On Saturday, April 10, 2021, 02:29:27 PM CDT, Aurélien Larcher wrote: On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 7:27 PM Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss < openindiana-discuss

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Illumos/OI development system installation

2021-04-10 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
via openindiana-discuss < openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote: > I should like to suggest that providing a turnkey development > installation that would permit someone like me to compile format(1m)  and > fix the SEGV faults would go a long way towards increasing the num

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