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that there aren't enough people who care this project
isn't really controlled by the community, (and are willing to do something
about it.)
I am willing to work towards making this happen, but I am not willing, or
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religion, and agrees to live by these
principles. I hope we all at least try.
Cheers,
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P.S. - Feel free to discuss the other bullets as well, we aren't doing
so hot on some of them either.
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user i cannot modify the resolution..
why i cannot modify the resolution
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If you're looking to *develop* against the bleeding/cutting edge, a latest
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On 8/3/07, Jim Grisanzio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matthew Gardiner wrote:
When am I going to see support for my USB webcam?
infact, a large number of
products in my laptop made by Ricoh, who are more
than happy to provide
specifications to those who want them?
When you stop
On 8/2/07, Glen Wiley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bart,
You or Tim had mentioned the idea of being able to support checkpoints
of some kind which would let more rigid environments take advantage of some
of the more useful features with reduced risk. Do you see motion in that
direction?
On 8/1/07, Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gurus,
V490+Solaris 9,On a 79GBytes file system /usr/local, where there
are2 5GBytes free, system fails to
create a 1GBytes file via mkfile:# df -h /usr/local
Filesystem size used avail capacity Mounted on
/dev/dsk/c1t1d0s6
On 8/1/07, Fauzia Saeed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Where in Sun do I find someone to sponsor it?
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Fauzia (foz) Saeed wrote:
The Open Solaris Community in San Diego has an opportunity to fund the local
SW council which is a respected non-profit organization with a
On 8/1/07, Brian Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Brian:
I'm not a lawyer so I can't really comment on what Ubuntu is doing with
any authority. There are probably some cases where users could
legally install such IP protected code. Examples could include:
- people who live in countries
On 8/1/07, Brian Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Brian:
First off, as I understand the Codecs are opensource. They also might be
legal, but the status is not clear.
There are a lot of issues here. Note that the GPL/LGPL (and many other
free licenses) do not allow IP protected code to
I suspect they are more likely to be found on the advocacy-discuss list.. (I
don't know.)
On 8/1/07, Fauzia Saeed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Proposal is done. Who are the right people in product marketing?
Brian Gupta wrote:
On 8/1/07, Fauzia Saeed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Where in Sun
On 8/1/07, MC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought I read somewhere (can't find the source) that the market
for PC games is shrinking and the market for console games is growing
(Wii/PS3/Xbox 360).
PC gaming makes much less money than console gaming right now, because of
the aforementioned
On 8/1/07, John Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Aug 1, 2007, at 3:02 PM, Brian Gupta wrote:
On 8/1/07, MC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought I read somewhere (can't find the source) that the market
for PC games is shrinking and the market for console games is growing
(Wii/PS3
The problem is that Sun in the past just keeps going for the 'high end
niche' eventually that niche will become so small it stops existing -
SGI is finding out that the hard way - hopeing to slash and burn costs
whilst ignoring it is the uniqueness which bring customers over, not
necessarily
On 8/2/07, Korey Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let us, for the purpose of making a point, assume
that you are 100% correct in your statements.
Following from those, how will persons you write
about be able to fix something they know nothing
about and aren't able/willing to learn it?
On 8/2/07, Akhilesh Mritunjai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Problem : I want to Run Vb Application and MS
Access as a backend on Sun Solaris 10. I want to make
solaris system is operating system and other window
based system Access Application and database from
that Solaris System.
Could
On 7/31/07, Kaiwai Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 23:43 -0400, Brian Gupta wrote:
One could argue that not only does Solaris need more users,
but its
quality rather than quantity. If the vast majority of the 40%
are penny
It would make it easier for some of us to deploy OpenSolaris.
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On 8/1/07, Ian Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Brian Gupta wrote:
It would make it easier for some of us to deploy OpenSolaris.
How can Sun support something that changes every couple of weeks and
doesn't support patching?
I suppose they could provide a help line with a recorded message
On 8/1/07, Brian Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kaiwai:
I'm surprised that Sun can't get access to those windows codecs under
the agreement which Sun and Microsoft signed.
I don't think access to the codecs is the problem. Paying the
royalties required to distribute the IP is more
http://www.cups.org/articles.php?L179+I0+T+M10+P1+Q
On 7/30/07, Ché Kristo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I heard that they bought cups but stated that:
Apple Inc. has trademarked the Common UNIX Printing System, CUPS, and
CUPS logo. These names and logos may be used freely in any direct port or
On 7/30/07, James Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Brian Gupta writes:
http://www.cups.org/articles.php?L179+I0+T+M10+P1+Q
Ah, a license fork. What fun!
Personally I think this is a complete perversion of the open source
movement, and can't believe this hasn't gotten wider coverage
to allow 3rd parties to develop closed source
components on an Apple Operating System
For more information
http://www.cups.org/articles.php?L475
http://www.cups.org/articles.php?L+TFAQ
-Norm
Brian Gupta wrote:
They have forked a closed source version for Mac OS X
Is anyone running any GPGPU code on Solaris? I ask because with AMD Fusion
coming down the road, it seems that most AMD64 machines will have access to
GPU based computation functions.
With Solaris and Sun moving to a highly threaded programming model
(Fortress), might these functions be
Just the same, I think having an environment available that can hide
all of that away and that is robust enough that it's able to do so
when things are going wrong would be great. I just suspect that it's
far harder (read: expensive) to make that work in any reliable way
than most would
On 7/30/07, Edward McAuley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you Alan.
I am somewhat confused regarding their approach. They are saying the are
going to deliver these drivers, on one hand, but on the other hand they are
claiming they cannot because they don't own all of the IP (that part of
One could argue that not only does Solaris need more users, but its
quality rather than quantity. If the vast majority of the 40% are penny
pinching, proprietary software hating, thick-rim-glasses wearing, hunch
back coding geeks - it certainly won't attract vendors such as Adobe or
MYOB who
They have forked a closed source version for Mac OS X
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Brian Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
using Jaluna code plus OpenSolaris code (for an approximation of SVR4
e.g.
filesystem and other code) as a starting point; seems to me that
Chorus/MiX would have been on a level of coolness
http://www.sysadminday.com/
Cheers,
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On 7/27/07, Richard L. Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At one point wasn't there an embedded OS based on
the
Solaris kernel?
Chorus?
ChorusOS was his own OS that Sun acquired. They also
acquired Cobalt systems which ran RedHat Linux ported
to the MIPS processor.
Both
You want enough battery time to start the generators, and fix the generators
and pumps that may possibly fail. (And you definately want to make sure you
have redundant fuel pumps for each generator.)
Also quarterly testing is a must.
--brian
On 7/27/07, Bill Sommerfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One more thing. Geographical redundancy is a good thing. -brian
On 7/27/07, Brian Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You want enough battery time to start the generators, and fix the
generators and pumps that may possibly fail. (And you definately want to
make sure you have redundant fuel pumps
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/26/sun_2048_thread_niagara/
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So now I have my nifty new cheapo... er... economy lappy but I haven't
had time to do much with it yet! What I did get a chance to do though
was download and fire up Nevada b67 via the BeleniX 0.6.1 LiveCD (also,
I stuck with Xfce and the Realtek ethernet NIC for now) and everything,
including
I would be very much in favour of seeing OpenSolaris become a
501(c)(3) entity. In fact, I think it is essential that OpenSoalris
does so, otherwise OpenSolaris is not exactly attractive for
people/companies to donate anything towards in the USA.
If some outside organization wished to donate
If some outside organization wished to donate anything substantial to
the
project, they would contact Sun directly about this issue.
Why? Sun isn't equipped to accept donations, either; it's a
for-profit corporation. Nor does Sun own or control the OpenSolaris
community; the Charter and
Let's see what happens now. ;)
--brian
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Douglas F Shearer wrote:
Hi Folks.
I've recently started using OpenSolaris, and have set up some zones to
cover web/db/svn etc.
I have one public IP (This is at home), but each zne has it's own
internal IP (192.169.1.11*).
Basically I'd like some way to have SHH request redirected to the
One of the goals of Indiana is also to be able to boot and install from a
mini cd rom image, that pulls things from the network. I have been thinking
that the best option would be to include templates in the installation
procedure that could pull down different packages sets depending on what
The thought is that things that are part of the OpenSolaris code base would
definately be hosts by OpenSolaris.org. Being that all the code hosted by
OpenSolaris is freely distributable, it would obviously make sense to
develop and leverage mirror sites.
One thing that will also be hosted is
As I understand there are links on the homepage?? Speaking of homepage, I
would suggest that once we have a working distro that we have a splash page
that says Get OpenSolaris and Develop OpenSolaris. The get OpenSolaris
would feature the ref build, but also provide links and descriptions of the
On 6/5/07, Alan Burlison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Brian Gupta wrote:
As I understand there are links on the homepage?? Speaking of homepage,
I
would suggest that once we have a working distro that we have a splash
page
that says Get OpenSolaris and Develop OpenSolaris. The get
OpenSolaris
On 6/5/07, Alan Burlison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Brian Gupta wrote:
It might help if some of the people who are criticising what we have at
the moment had actually bothered to look at the thing they are
criticising *before* criticising it.
I mean something like this: http
Joseph,
I have made an effort to incorporate your comments into a new list.
Primary Drivers:
--
1) There is a desire for a minimal/core OpenSolaris distro, that other
distro packagers can leverage to create their own distros. Building a distro
from this core *may*, in the
The purpose of this thread is threefold.
First, I would like to start a focused discussion, as to why people
would want an OSH (OpenSolaris Hosted) binary set, so that we can
accommodate the widest set of needs with our efforts. (OSH as a
hopefully non controversial working name).
Second, this
name to call it). Naming is something that should be
addressed later. Please, let's not belabor this point.
I also propose that we need to reach out to the current distros, to
see if they would like to be involved in contributing to this distro.
(Any volunteers?)
Thank You,
Brian Gupta
P.S. - Please
Just incase people aren't paying attention.. Please read follow these threads.
Like minded individuals let's start working on an OpenSolaris.org
distro right now:
http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=31958tstart=0
Thread to discuss goals for OpenSolaris reference build.
On 6/2/07, Joseph Kowalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I cut the distribution down, but probably not enough. Others please
feel free to cut even more. Perhaps the first mail should have gone to
announce and follow-ups to approach. I can't tell Brian's intent.
Brian sent me private mail asking
This would be great, except that blastwave is built for Solaris 8, not
OpenSolaris. It probably not best to be dependent on what Solaris 8 does
not have. What is needed is a Blastwave II (OpenSolaris Edition) which
combines the current work done in Blastwave and the build
scripts/patches SFE and
I was in the process of writing my own proposal for a reference build
(I got sidetracked because of all the distracting Indiana discussion),
I am including my incomplete draft proposal for consideration and
comment:
Proposal OpenSolaris Reference Distribution v0.1
1. Introduction and
I have started compiling a list of goals as a starting point for
discussion. I am mainting this list on the following wiki page, but
have included the current list to kickstart the conversation:
http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/OpenSolaris_Reference_Build#Goals
Goals
* Support
On 5/31/07, James Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
MC writes:
So what problem are you trying to solve here ? I just don't get it.
Try it this way: There is no community OpenSolaris distro that does what Sun
management wants. Sun wants many more kids and university students using some
If this is an OpenSolaris activity, it will obey the Group voting
procedures documented in the constitution. There is no such thing as
a sole arbiter at OpenSolaris, period.
Check out the following text CNET article: http://tinyurl.com/ys7hb2
Relevant text:
And although Foster said the
P.S. - The decision really isn't as stark as that just yet. All we're
asking for is a project where we can *explore* #2..
:) You don't need a project to do this. We are sorta exploring right now.
I suggest using approachability-discuss as your CG mailing list to
start your exploration.
Go
We are working on an automated System Inventory and Data Center
automation Framework. It is currently in planning stage. If anyone is
interested in contributing please let me know.
Could everyone please review this list, and let me know if there data
fields that are important to youe environment
Now there's a way to make oneself marketable in the street corner programmer
business.
Actually Java is the primary language used to teach object oriented
programming concepts today. (At the university level)
No. Every sysadmin I've ever met, and every system engineer I've ever met for that
Although I don't agree with the requirement of a Sun Employee to have
final sayso on decisions, I would like to voice my support for this
project.
Let us begin discussions in an appropriate list to flesh out proposal details.
brian
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1.4 Involvement
There is a strong intention for this to be a community grass roots
project, with open contribution. We hope for this project to be
consensus driven, though ultimately the project leads will need
to dictate direction if that proves unfeasible for delivering
a
I assume that you mean inappropriate line breaks are being placed in
the text. If so can you send me a sample textfile, so I can see what
you are experiencing.
brian
On 5/30/07, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe someone can offer some suggestions to resolve this issue that I'm sure
I'm not
Sun's virtualization strategy:
1) Zones/Containers x86/Sparc
2) LDOMS - Sparc
3) DOMS - Sparc
4) Xen - X86
5) VMWare ESX - x86
-Brian
On 5/25/07, Javier O. Augusto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When or if we get VMware then I would never install another OS besides
Solaris on the bare metal
I have a nagging fear that some people inside Sun read this mailing list
and interpret it as 'The voice of the customer'. It's not, it's the
opinion of a self-selected group.
+1
Totally correct. OpenSolaris.org, is definitely not the place to find
your average Sun customer opinions.
-Brian
On 5/24/07, Thommy M. Malmström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm thinking about getting a home server. I'm not
sure what distro I should get. Should I go with
Solaris or CentOs?
Go for both on a dual installation and compare.
Whats the advantage of Solaris?
ZFS, DTrace, SMF, zones...
Here
I think the advantages of OpenSolaris have already been well stated. The
one area where I'm still using Linux in a home server is for VMWare. I keep
a couple of Windows VM's running to support a few windows-specific tools.
Barring the need to support a non-solaris app like VMWare, there's a lot
Take it off your todo list. You won't be able to make it work..
(Unless you have special glue to plug a linux kernel mod, into the
Solaris kernel)
brian
On 5/24/07, Ignacio Marambio Catán [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 5/24/07, Bill Rushmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Javier O. Augusto wrote:
I believe the kernel modules have been open sourced, so they can be ported
if you are enough of a solaris/linux kernel module guru. But at least it
wont require much recurring work thanks to Solaris stability
I was under the (quite possibly mistaken) impression that VMWare had
only open
Seriously. I can't think of any reason why I would use gnu tar instead
of star if I had a choice.
I know you all are having fun bashing gtar, but gtar has *NEVER* let
me down in over ten years. I started using it when I discovered
Solaris tar didn't support sparse files. (Not that I need sparse
If you really want Solaris hosted VMWare let them know: :
http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?messageID=523848#523848
On 5/24/07, James Dickens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 5/24/07, Brian Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I believe the kernel modules have been open sourced, so they can
Speaking of AIX, have you been keeping up with the announcements
regarding virtualization LiveMotion? (Very similar to VMWare VMotion,
but for AIX).
brian
On 5/23/07, Dave Marquardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Neale == Neale Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Neale It will be a project as well
3.14159265(7?6?)...
Do I win the contest?
On 5/22/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Besides, gtar was in /usr/sfw/bin since at least
Solaris 10; with the /usr/gnu
thing, I suppose it would end up in there as tar
(vomit) with a link in /usr/bin
as gtar. So you can
Keep an eye on these:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/21/ibm_power6_p570/
Wow, wouldn't it be great if Sparc/Opteron had access to IBM silicon
processeses. (4.7 GHz)
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Yes... Not sure how comprehensive it is though.
So as not to veer the conversation off topic, +1 on the port!!
On 5/22/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Brian Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Keep an eye on these:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/21
Instead of spending so much TALK on why this or that status quo
is better than the other, how about instead spending the EFFORT
to improve things?
+7
brian
P.S. - There is a ton of low hanging fruit for us non-Sun people to pick.
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Just curious? It's all so serious around here. :)
Thanks,
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On 5/22/07, Moinak Ghosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
After quite a gap BeleniX 0.6 is now available. Following is a summary
of the main changes. See http://www.belenix.org/ for more details,
known issues/TODOs.
Congratulations!! I'll check it out.
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Actually, I see them as two very different groups. The difference is
primarily the entry point.
Agreed. (Don't ignore the fact that goals and workloads are currently
very different.)
The current market for Solaris 10 (and the market RHEL etc. also target)
is the traditional enterprise, i.e.,
On 5/21/07, UNIX admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've worked in places where system administrators
hacked source code
which was available (BSD Unix, source licenses).
Invariably, it is a *bad* idea; but that point is
never driven home
until one of the administrators does leave or is hit
I've never liked popularity contests since long term popularity fades.
Shawn, I think you've hit the nail on the head. Anyone remember that
old old instruction set that the Intel 8086 popularized? See what
happens to popular technology? It fades from use, especially if it is
underpowered and
I would add to the list the fact that the source code is well
documented, which I don't really find the case in the linux kernel.
Done. In the future, feel free to edit the wiki yourself.
On 5/18/07, Christopher Mahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Brian Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Done
I've never liked popularity contests since long term popularity fades.
Shawn, I think you've hit the nail on the head. Anyone remember that
old old instruction set that the Intel 8086 popularized? See what
happens to popular technology? It fades from use, especially if it is
underpowered
One Laptop per Child on 60 Minutes, Sunday May 20
http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/05/18/one-laptop-per-child-on-60-minutes-sunday-may-20/
If you are following this project, you will find that they have
standardized on a Linux distribution. Why not Solaris? I leave this to
be answered by the
Next someone needs to port OS/z to Sun hardware. (That's what I really
want to see, we'd sure as heck save a lot of money.).
-Brian
On 5/22/07, Glynn Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey Neale,
Neale Ferguson wrote:
The following is a description of a proposal to form a Community that will be
1) Logwatch doesn't come with Solaris. (Although if you look in the
root crontab, there is an included script that can roll syslogs. It's
pretty straighforward, and should be easy to edit.
2) Logwatch proper will run on Solaris.
On 5/20/07, Anne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greetings to All
On 5/19/07, UNIX admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Initially Linux was not suitable for Enterprise
deployments, but as
time goes on Linux is acceptable, for more and more
tasks. (Many times
being the best choice).
One picks Linux as the best choice only if one doesn't know what one is
doing.
I am moving this discussion to install-discuss. (Please remove
opensolaris-discuss from any replies).
On 5/17/07, Bart Smaalders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Brian Gupta wrote:
Going back to my initial motivation to get involved with OpenSolaris,
and trying to find a common thread from
Wouldn't this partially fall into system administration community?
-Brian
On 5/18/07, Isaac Rozenfeld - NEW YORK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Darren J Moffat wrote:
Isaac R. wrote:
This is a draft proposal to create a new OpenSolaris community
focusing on the subject of Chargeback.
It would
(E.g., nVidia drivers)
Well, as far as I am aware, Nvidia doesn't allow redistribution of
their drivers, due to GPL issues.
-Brian
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opensolaris community offer it.So,for example,Indiana should be offer
as first choice GNU CC and not SunPro compiler because it is a only
binary product.Then,but only after that, we
My understanding is the Forte was going to be OpenSourced? Is this not the case?
Why don't we first focus on those applications that don't exist in
Solaris currently? Also, in parallel, we should work on an updated
packaging format.
These two things will do much to lay the foundations for addressing
the out of box completeness gap.
-Brian
On 5/18/07, Geoff Clare [EMAIL
On 5/14/07, Pradhap Devarajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Brian,
Nice list !! , may be you can start putting it in wiki
http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page . So that
people can start contributing to it.
Done. http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/SolarisStrengths
brian
The Sun Studio compiler is still a central piece for Opensolaris
development. Since Sun is unlikely to replace the web forum interface
in the near future I support the request to create a mailing list on
opensolaris.org
Might this fall under tools-discuss?
I was wondering if there is a fit for a ticketing system to track who
is working on what? (It would help me to have a list of task I have
commited to.
If there is interest, I can set something up, either in my domain. or
if Sun is willing, I would be willing to set it up, at
opensolaris.org.
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