On Sat, 2006-04-01 at 02:10, Richard L. Hamilton wrote:
> Why can't df readily be persuaded not to show filesystems for which storage
> isn't
> an issue? I'm thinking of mnttab, fd, proc, objfs, ctfs, and anything else
> like that with
> 0 blocks of storage; and probably also of lofs mounts, sin
> 4Front has been providing sound drivers with
> excellent support for Solaris x86 for many years now,
> back when no one else was interested. What have you
> given us?
How about some audio fixes in the driver code, does that count?
You probably run code that I helped fix without even knowing it.
> UX_ADMIN,
>
> The reason why we need to add a startup script to RC
> is because we need to guarantee that if there are
> multiple audio devices, then they all startup in the
> right order. Solaris doesn't guarantee the order in
> which drivers are started by the system unlike
> Linux.
The drive
It has taken a few months, yet I can clearly state
that after reviewing both Linux and FreeBSD desktop
distros in the past - Belenix 0.4.1 deserves a
"feather in the hat" for the professional looking
desktop environment worthy for corporate use. The new
desktop backgrounds looking very clean and
pr
Bill Rushmore wrote:
Anyway, back to the important question..why isn't
anybody talking about audio? (I don't care if it's
OSS drivers or Sun drivers or Tools.de drivers).
Audio is a multibillion dollar business - Apple,
Microsoft, Yahoo, Google and Cisco are all into audio
and minting money,
> Anyway, back to the important question..why isn't
> anybody talking about audio? (I don't care if it's
> OSS drivers or Sun drivers or Tools.de drivers).
> Audio is a multibillion dollar business - Apple,
> Microsoft, Yahoo, Google and Cisco are all into audio
> and minting money, why not Sun
Why can't df readily be persuaded not to show filesystems for which storage
isn't
an issue? I'm thinking of mnttab, fd, proc, objfs, ctfs, and anything else
like that with
0 blocks of storage; and probably also of lofs mounts, since the real storage
isn't associated
with them. That would cut t
Eric Lowe wrote:
> Roland Mainz wrote:
> ...
> >>> delay the project proposal until it is clear that Sun actually
> >>> releases the patches for their work. Starting from scratch without
> >>> help from Sun will be much harder.
> >> Just a quick note to say I haven't dropped this on the floor. Plea
Cyril Plisko wrote:
Just found that b36
(http://javashoplm.sun.com/ECom/docs/Welcome.jsp?StoreId=7&PartDetailId=Sol-Express_b36-x86-SP-G-B&TransactionId=try)
grew to 5 CDs, what was added to it to make it that bigger ?
Mustang (Java 6) beta.
--
-Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PRO
Excuse my ignorance,but I can only find the b35 dvd iso. Is the b36 dvd
available somewhere as well?
Thanks,
David
> On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Cyril Plisko wrote:
>
>> Just found that b36
>> (http://javashoplm.sun.com/ECom/docs/Welcome.jsp?StoreId=7&PartDetailId=Sol-Express_b36-x86-SP-G-B&TransactionId
On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Cyril Plisko wrote:
> Just found that b36
> (http://javashoplm.sun.com/ECom/docs/Welcome.jsp?StoreId=7&PartDetailId=Sol-Express_b36-x86-SP-G-B&TransactionId=try)
> grew to 5 CDs, what was added to it to make it that bigger ?
> (I am still downloading and will find it out only
We've actually adopted the 6month license expiration from Joerg Schilling's
software. Forced upgrade also helps us in bug fixing and beta testing new
features in OSS.
Anyway, back to the important question..why isn't anybody talking about
audio? (I don't care if it's OSS drivers or Sun driv
On Fri, 2006-03-31 at 15:36 -0500, Chris Ricker wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Roland Mainz wrote:
>
> > My personal complaint is that they stuff everything into /usr/bin/. Unix
> > had some kind of "namespace" support via the elements in ${PATH} so
> > having package groups seperated into /usr/dt/
Rather than reinstalling for personal use, why not have a "pester" mode (not
excessive),
which (absent a paid license key) spits out a message at boot and at each
driver open
(but skipping the latter if the last such message was output within an hour)
saying
"OSS audio drivers licenced for
Just found that b36
(http://javashoplm.sun.com/ECom/docs/Welcome.jsp?StoreId=7&PartDetailId=Sol-Express_b36-x86-SP-G-B&TransactionId=try)
grew to 5 CDs, what was added to it to make it that bigger ?
(I am still downloading and will find it out only tomorrow, but may be
someone want to tell us ?)
UNIX admin wrote:
>>You haven't tried the new version - have you? The new
>>version is pkg format and it's fully Solaris 10
>>compliant.
>>
>>
>
>You're not going to like what I will write, but you've got some ways to go
>before you can claim that you're fully Solaris 10 compliant.
>
>
>
4F
Dennis Clarke wrote:
...
So then ... could we keep the majority of the existing install process
while pointing its source to neither CDROM nor NFS but rather RAM
disk? We could even read in the CDROMs with readcd ( from Jörg
Schilling ) into ISO images and then use lofiadm to mount them.
I kno
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Roland Mainz wrote:
> My personal complaint is that they stuff everything into /usr/bin/. Unix
> had some kind of "namespace" support via the elements in ${PATH} so
> having package groups seperated into /usr/dt/bin/ (CDE), /usr/kde3/bin
> (KDE3), /usr/xpg4/bin/ (XPG4 personal
UX_ADM,
Please get some manners before posting!
I will not be drawn into a shouting match with someone who has no clue about
audio and device drivers.
Best regards
Dev Mazumdar
4Front Technologies
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op
>
> Finally, you claim that your software is free for
> personal use. Why is it then, that one has to renew
> the license after a period of time?
> I have no intent of pirating your software; in fact,
> I'd much rather Sun do a port of their SPARC driver.
> At least then I could rest easy knowing
Mika Borner wrote:
To make Solaris more attractive compared to Linux (et al.) we should
dump the whole X-Window System.
Sorry, but that's simply not possible. To start with, we simply couldn't
replace all the video drivers on our own.
This message is intended for the addressee only and may
c
James Carlson wrote:
Thomas Maier-Komor writes:
As I said, there are in fact folks working on this area.
Great to hear that Sun is aware of this. Can we expect a fancy look in
update 2?
I have no idea what the schedule is. If the folks working on it don't
wake up soon and comment (it's not
> I wonder about zipping an image of an installed
> filesystem, then copy (as in cat image | gzip -d | dd
> of=/dev/dsk/rdsk/...) that onto the drive (or pool,
> if plausible). It would be faster than writing the
> 1000's files individually. You still need package
> technology but you could get mos
Ignacio Marambio Catán wrote:
Wes Williams wrote:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, Bill Rushmore wrote:
OK, not really a feature necessarily of Solaris but
more of an application. I really want VMware (or its
equivalent), especially since the SUNpci card is becoming
obsolete on Sparc and there really isn'
> A GUI should run a commandline interface. If it
> shows what it does
> then that is fine.
Agreed.
> A GUI should not do magical things which cannot be
> done through
> a commandline interface.
Agreed.
> GUIs do not scale. And never will.
Correct; and this is one of the inherent problems a
Roland Mainz wrote:
...
delay the project proposal until it is clear that Sun actually
releases the patches for their work. Starting from scratch without
help from Sun will be much harder.
Just a quick note to say I haven't dropped this on the floor. Please give
me some time to look into this. N
> I used to think the same until I started using MacOS
> X. I'm really
> impressed at how much stuff you can do from GUI tools
> and how very
> little you need to actually bring up a terminal
> window. They only times
> I use a terminal window on MacOS X is to run shell
> scripts I wrote
> my
On Fri, 2006-03-31 at 14:33, Mika Borner wrote:
>
> To make Solaris more attractive compared to Linux (et al.) we should
> dump the whole X-Window System.
To be replaced with what? And to what purpose?
All this does is force you to rewrite all your graphical
applications, and puts up a barrier d
Thomas Maier-Komor writes:
> > As I said, there are in fact folks working on this area.
> >
>
> Great to hear that Sun is aware of this. Can we expect a fancy look in
> update 2?
I have no idea what the schedule is. If the folks working on it don't
wake up soon and comment (it's not yet 7AM in
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Thomas Maier-Komor wrote:
>
> And what makes an OS fancy? When and how do you "see" an OS? During booting!
> What does Windows show us during booting? A nice logo.
> Linux? Penguins and a lot of information about the system it is running on.
>
My response is: Who cares?! I a
Thomas Maier-Komor writes:
> Of course I had to try this at one, but on my Blade 1000 I get:
Oh.
I was talking about x86. The support isn't quite complete yet, as
SPARC doesn't yet have grub.
> Have you ever seen how SuSE (now Novell) looks like during booting? I
> wouldn't go as far as saying
Thomas Maier-Komor writes:
> And Solaris? A release number, a patch id that no newbie understands, and a
> license statement! Bah!
> After this nothing happens for a long time and one begins waiting much
> earlier and this makes the system being felt slow during this process.
There are alternati
Gurus;
May I ask why the following lines are missing from Solaris 10 Update 1
user adm's crontab?
0 * * * * /usr/lib/acct/ckpacct
30 2 * * * /usr/lib/acct/runacct 2> /var/adm/acct/nite/fd2log
30 7 1 * * /usr/lib/acct/monacct
I also rather curious why acct is still legacy script and not a full
>IMHO Apple did the right thing with dumping X for Aqua with the
>possibility of runnin X on top of it, for legacy apps. Let's face it, X
>should die. We need something new.
Sorry, what's wrong with X?
"X must die" is a bit of a broad brush.
I'm currently displaying around 10 remote xterms,
James Carlson wrote:
Though I agree it's unfortunate, it is the case that many things --
including Sun's own products -- come with custom install/uninstall
scripts. Those scripts should invoke packaging commands under the
covers, and figuring out prodreg(1M) would be better, but the
existence of
Martin Man writes:
> I don't know about any other recent standard that might replace it
> (which of course could be only my ignorance)... or the lack of promotion
> of such standard...
The SVID volume 1 had such definitions long before there was a
"Linux," let alone a FHS.
--
James Carlson, KI
> Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/31/06 2:31 pm >>>
>I also think that Apple does provide sufficient control over system
>config these days. No longer is it a "don't touch" but instead they
>have sufficient legacy in doing stuff through the GUI because there
was
>no CLI that they under
UNIX admin writes:
> There should be no "uninstall steps". The *proper* way to *remove*
> software on UNIX is to use the software subsystem, in case of
> Solaris, the `pkgrm` command.
Note that pkgrm just removes one package, and if you have multiple
packages or configurable sets, it's clumsy at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, how do you do this on 1000 Macs?
Remote AppleScript.
And that's a GUI?
Can be or it can just be scripting to interact with the GUI elements
remotely.
If one is running, presumably?
I don't know how it works; b
On 3/31/06, Thomas Maier-Komor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am still thinking what the major issues are that many people don't give
> Solaris a real chance. Therefore, I want to consider how others sell their
> product and create a good image.
>
> The image of Solaris is all about the b
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, how do you do this on 1000 Macs?
>>> Remote AppleScript.
>>
>> And that's a GUI?
>
>Can be or it can just be scripting to interact with the GUI elements
>remotely.
If one is running, presumably?
Casper
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Thomas Maier-Komor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And what makes an OS fancy? When and how do you "see" an OS? During booting!
> What does Windows show us during booting? A nice logo.
> Linux? Penguins and a lot of information about the system it is running on.
>
> And Solaris? A release number, a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, how do you do this on 1000 Macs?
Remote AppleScript.
And that's a GUI?
Can be or it can just be scripting to interact with the GUI elements
remotely.
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>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> So, how do you do this on 1000 Macs?
>
>Remote AppleScript.
And that's a GUI?
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, how do you do this on 1000 Macs?
Remote AppleScript.
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>Indeed and there are GUI's out there that attempt to bridge the
>gap by showing you what CLI would be run. Thats now what I'm
>after here since I don't see the GUI as a "teaching tool" I want
>to have it been seen as the one true way for people that want to
>do it that way.
A GUI should run a c
I wonder about zipping an image of an installed filesystem, then copy (as in
cat image | gzip -d | dd of=/dev/dsk/rdsk/...) that onto the drive (or pool, if
plausible). It would be faster than writing the 1000's files individually. You
still need package technology but you could get most of the
UNIX admin wrote:
That is an excellent question, and you're to be commended for it.
How do you marry two opposite approaches to getting a task done?
Indeed and there are GUI's out there that attempt to bridge the
gap by showing you what CLI would be run. Thats now what I'm
after here since I
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> >Just asked around, one of the very old staff here suggested that the
> >reason was that early CPUs only had only very few register so having the
> >"s1" in one of them as result of being the function's return value saved
> >some instructions. Weired (at least for tod
James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Roland Mainz writes:
> > James Carlson wrote:
> > [snip]
> > > As for strMANYcat, the operation seems sort of obvious and somewhat
> > > useful, but I wonder how often in real, well-written code this
> > > situation actually comes up _and_ snprintf isn't
Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Roland Mainz wrote:
> > Umpf. See my original posting. My intention was to improve performance
> > and usuability. |snprintf()| would make it slower. MUCH slower.
>
> Is snprintf() really the performance bottleneck in your application?
I currently onl
Roland Mainz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Erm... and how should shells handle such directories then properly ?
> "runat" is not a very elegant solution.
> http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/ksh93-integration-discuss/2006-March/000159.html
> has pointers to a patch for ksh93 support but even sim
Roland Mainz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How different is their "make" version (or better: What are the
> differences ?) ?
>
> > > doesn't have many fans (and lacks "distributed" and "grid" build modes)
> > > outside Linux (at least in the *BSD variants listed above) and spreading
> > > the Works
On 31/03/06, Thomas Maier-Komor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And what makes an OS fancy? When and how do you "see" an OS? During booting!
Personally I don't do that too often.
The first thing users have to actually deal with is the *installer*.
If you want to overhaul the UI, concentrate on that
> /usr/sadm/bin/sm* is the CLI interface to SMC.
I did not know that. I just use the individual commands.
When I think of SMC, the first thing I think about is the Java GUI and the
server listening on port 898.
To be quite honest, not my idea of fun.
And it doesn't help that Java's widget tool
Roland Mainz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is this a bug or feature:
> -- snip --
> bash-3.00$ mkdir xxx
> bash-3.00$ cd xxx
> bash-3.00$ runat
> bash-3.00$ ls -l >xxx
> bash-3.00$ ls -la
> total 6
> drwxr-xr-x 2 test001 users512 Mar 31 01:36 .
> drwxr-xr-x 5 test001 users512
Hi,
I am still thinking what the major issues are that many people don't give
Solaris a real chance. Therefore, I want to consider how others sell their
product and create a good image.
The image of Solaris is all about the big iron. Machines with many processors,
redundance, and so on. But no
> That's not how I understood it. I thought the idea
> was that the package
> would be stored as a single file in datastream format
> rather than
> unpacked
> in filesystem format. Which would cut down a lot of
> the small I/O
> operations
> that are currently necessary.
Aha! OK, that would work.
David Powell wrote:
Visual Panels is written in Java, and we're quite happy with the
performance we're getting. Java performance has improved a lot, and
that's not just because computers are getting faster. I also think
it's fair to say that most of SMC's sluggishness has little to do
Peter Tribble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not really. The fastest systems today can't saturate a DVD, 100M
> network, or hard
> disk with bzip2.
>
> I would happily exchange the 5% loss in compression for the 10x
> performance win.
>
> If you need that 5%, then there are probably other ways to ge
Roland Mainz wrote:
Erm... I was proposing a mailinglist for the diffs of the Genunix.org
Wiki commits, not something for the OpenSolaris main repository...
Ah, I misread it... doing too many things at once.
Anyway, same answer, if you want to implement it, let me know and I can
arrange t
Roland Mainz wrote:
Martin Man wrote:
David J. Orman wrote:
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Dennis Clarke wrote:
Was there a document at some point in history ( this is UNIX and it
has tons of history ) called the FSSTD or was it FHS ?
http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html
( this may
Keith M Wesolowski wrote:
Q: How can I get additional sw to my opensolaris
A: PKGv4 format vs. rpm/deb/tar.gz, nonexistence of repositories,
blastwave, sunfreeware, relation to solaris express
The answer to this question varies by distribution (not all
necessarily use SVR4 packaging; they ma
> You haven't tried the new version - have you? The new
> version is pkg format and it's fully Solaris 10
> compliant.
You're not going to like what I will write, but you've got some ways to go
before you can claim that you're fully Solaris 10 compliant.
First of all:
"Adding OSS startup script
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