Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation

2006-04-19 Thread Joe G (Joseph George)
Jim Grisanzio wrote: hey, guys. Google has announced its 2006 Summer of Code: http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html I am sure OpenSolaris based distributions like SchilliX, Nexenta and BeleniX would have a lot of projects to offer. I just spoke to Moinak, he is keen on putting

Re: [osol-discuss] [Fwd: OpenSolaris attacked by Novell]

2006-04-19 Thread patrick finch
Hi, Just to tie up Eric's question, I contacted James Eagleton, the product manager for Sun in Australia. He confirmed that Hovespian's comments were made at LinuxWorld Australia, which was held in Sydney from March 28 to 30th. regards Patrick Eric Lowe wrote: Has anyone tracked down

[osol-discuss] Looking Glass on OpenSolaris

2006-04-19 Thread Bob Palowoda
I was using the latest livecd Looking Glass CD and it's based on SLAX Linux. Is there any reason any of the OpenSolaris livecd distributions cannot include Looking Glass, Java and the latest Nvidia drivers like the SLAX Linux version? Other than space but that could be solved with a live DVD

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-19 Thread Casper . Dik
Pffft... everyone here understands what is meant, and it's a lot easier than trying to describe, closer to 'one of those types of machines that is based around what is commonly called a linux distribution, and/or a Linux Standards Base compliant system in addition to adhering to

Re: [osol-discuss] Looking Glass on OpenSolaris

2006-04-19 Thread Moinak Ghosh
Bob Palowoda wrote: I was using the latest livecd Looking Glass CD and it's based on SLAX Linux. Is there any reason any of the OpenSolaris livecd distributions cannot include Looking Glass, Java and the latest Nvidia drivers like the SLAX Linux version? Other than space but that could be

[osol-discuss] Re: Looking Glass on OpenSolaris

2006-04-19 Thread Bob Palowoda
Bob Palowoda wrote: I was using the latest livecd Looking Glass CD and it's based on SLAX Linux. Is there any reason any of the OpenSolaris livecd distributions cannot include Looking Glass, Java and the latest Nvidia drivers like the SLAX Linux version? Other than space but that could

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Looking Glass on OpenSolaris

2006-04-19 Thread Moinak Ghosh
Bob Palowoda wrote: Bob Palowoda wrote: [...] LiveDVD is on the radar for BeleniX. A 4.7GB DVD with compression ill allow 9GB of software to be bundled and boot faster than a CD. I don't know if compression is all that important with 4.7GB let alone we now have dual

[osol-discuss] Re: Solaris iMac Hello World

2006-04-19 Thread Jürgen Keil
Lastly the sata controller works in legacy emulation but suffers from he simplex causes us to fall back to PIO performance issue (5031379). I'm not sure if the sata controller simplex / performance issue on the iMac is the same as bug 5031379. Bug 5031379 is about a performance issue with

[osol-discuss] [Q]: Recovering OpenSolaris user name ?

2006-04-19 Thread Frank Hofmann - Solaris Sustaining
Hi, Interesting - the password change request webpage on opensolaris.org allows me to request to change the password by providing my registration email address. Fine so far - but what if I've forgotten the username ? The Email sent to my registered email doesn't have the username either ... So

[osol-discuss] [Q]: Recovering OpenSolaris user name ?

2006-04-19 Thread Frank Hofmann - Solaris Sustaining
Sorry - dumbness alert. It's sometimes a good idea to read URL strings ... FrankH. - Begin Forwarded Message - Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:11:27 +0100 (BST) From: Frank Hofmann - Solaris Sustaining [EMAIL PROTECTED]@sun.com Subject: [Q]: Recovering OpenSolaris user name ?

Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-19 Thread ken mays
There is the small piece of the pie in which the community really needs the support of Sun engineers in provide quality desktop environments and graphic libraries comparable to competing server/desktop OSes. Namely, KDE/GNOME support which is being done very well by the OpenSolaris desktop

[osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-19 Thread Eric Boutilier
Philip Brown wrote: On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 04:23:17PM -0700, Alan DuBoff wrote: So, how would it be possible to build a large set of libraries that everyone could update and use together? Is this at all possible? Sun has basically proposed to work with the community, and that is

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: technical (kernel?) discussion list progress?

2006-04-19 Thread Jasse Jansson
On Apr 19, 2006, at 7:18 AM, Stephen Hahn wrote: Given the circular nature of this particular proposal, I will at this point suggest that we either - repurpose opensolaris-code Yeah, go for this one, the name is pretty good. Kaiser Jasse -- Authorized Stealth Oracle The

[osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-19 Thread Eric Boutilier
Philip Brown wrote: On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 05:54:15PM -0500, Eric Boutilier wrote: Philip Brown wrote: The thing about all that, is that it forces the machine to be closer and closer to a linux machine, until eventually, it becomes nothing more than a linux machine with a

Re: [osol-discuss] Please help: General FAQ update

2006-04-19 Thread Karyn Ritter
FYI -- I've updated this FAQ. You can check it out in its existing location ( http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/faq/general_faq/ ). We can (obviously) still make changes, so just send mail to me and the list if there is anything you want to see updated/added. I know that other FAQs will be

[osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-19 Thread Eric Boutilier
ken mays wrote: There is the small piece of the pie in which the community really needs the support of Sun engineers in provide quality desktop environments and graphic libraries comparable to competing server/desktop OSes. Namely, KDE/GNOME support which is being done very well by the

Re: [osol-discuss] Looking Glass on OpenSolaris

2006-04-19 Thread Moinak Ghosh
Alan Coopersmith wrote: Bob Palowoda wrote: Is there any reason any of the OpenSolaris livecd distributions cannot include Looking Glass, Java and the latest Nvidia drivers like the SLAX Linux version? Project Looking Glass is the only one of the three that's open source. You'ld have to

Re: [osol-discuss] Looking Glass on OpenSolaris

2006-04-19 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Moinak Ghosh wrote: I had enquired with Nvidia customer support and marketing and got feedback that they have no issues with we redistributing the Nvidia driver with BeleniX. I guess this should apply to other OpenSolaris distros as well. In think If they get enough requests, they will

Re: [osol-discuss] Looking Glass on OpenSolaris

2006-04-19 Thread Deron Johnson
I can't think of any reason why this wouldn't work. I recommend using LG release 0.8.0 (which will be released in mid-May) and the Nvidia 8756 driver (which has already been released). Bob Palowoda wrote On 04/19/06 00:13,: I was using the latest livecd Looking Glass CD and it's based on SLAX

[osol-discuss] Mailx failure

2006-04-19 Thread Kevin Baumann
I am trying to mail myself some logs from a Solaris 8 machine. I am getting some errors though. Below is the error: (I have replaced email address/domain) - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (reason: 550 Host unknown) - Transcript of

Re: [osol-discuss] Looking Glass on OpenSolaris

2006-04-19 Thread David J. Orman
Just a FYI - nVidia doesn't support consumer level cards with the Solaris drivers, so I took it upon myself to #1 - contact them and #2 - test. Happy to report 8756 supports everything I threw at it, including the 7900 and 7600 series. nVidia also says it should work but we do not support it. I

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-19 Thread Dave Miner
Eric Boutilier wrote: ken mays wrote: ... The other is having a tool like apt-get in which you can install software from a CD/DVD archive set of from a remote mirrored FTP site... ... +1. (That can not be overemphasized if you ask me.) I'll just point out, for those of you who haven't

[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris distros collaboration by using launchpad.net

2006-04-19 Thread Erast Benson
Guys, I were thinking on what would be beneficial for every camp involved into OpenSolaris and related development? What would be useful for NexentaOS, BeleniX, SchilliX, marTux, SCXR, etc ? I think having centralized place (bugzilla, bounty, project management, calendar, etc) for OSS packages

Re: [osol-discuss] Mailx failure

2006-04-19 Thread John Beck
Kevin I am trying to mail myself some logs from a Solaris 8 machine... Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Host unknown Kevin (Name server: mailhost..com: host not found) Assuming your machine is on the real Internet with real DNS (as opposed to some internal network with fake DNS), and that dns is

Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-19 Thread Philip Brown
On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 06:10:31PM -0700, Alan DuBoff wrote: Blastwave essentially dropped their stable tree anyway, didn't you? Just the opposite. We finally found someone to step up to the plate and do the hard work, for free. James Lee is our official stable tree maintainer, and we've been

Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-19 Thread Philip Brown
On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 06:10:31PM -0700, Alan DuBoff wrote: Sun has staff now to handle most of what they do, but this doesn't allow Sun to work with the community. btw: there's a difference between working with the community, and meeting the needs of the community. you dont have to do #1

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: technical (kernel?) discussion list progress?

2006-04-19 Thread Moazam Raja
If this is still open for discussion, I also agree for repurposing opensolaris-code.-MoazamOn Apr 19, 2006, at 7:18 AM, Stephen Hahn wrote:   Given the circular nature of this particular proposal, I will at this   point suggest that we either   - repurpose opensolaris-code

Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-19 Thread Philip Brown
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 01:57:42PM -0400, Dave Miner wrote: Eric Boutilier wrote: I'm not sure Nexenta's implementation is the way to go though. It seems to me that Phil's pkg-get -- being designed around Sun's implementation of the SVr4 packaging standard -- seems like the better

Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-19 Thread Philip Brown
On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 07:50:35PM -0400, Laszlo (Laca) Peter wrote: On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 14:44 -0700, Philip Brown wrote: Interesting. This is not a deliberate thing. Apparently, it's just a side-effect of using sun compilers with the -fast option. The magic compiler option you

Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-19 Thread Laszlo (Laca) Peter
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 12:50 -0700, Philip Brown wrote: On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 07:50:35PM -0400, Laszlo (Laca) Peter wrote: On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 14:44 -0700, Philip Brown wrote: Interesting. This is not a deliberate thing. Apparently, it's just a side-effect of using sun compilers

Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-19 Thread Dave Miner
Philip Brown wrote: On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 01:57:42PM -0400, Dave Miner wrote: Eric Boutilier wrote: I'm not sure Nexenta's implementation is the way to go though. It seems to me that Phil's pkg-get -- being designed around Sun's implementation of the SVr4 packaging standard -- seems like

Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-19 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Thursday 13 April 2006 08:43 am, James Carlson wrote: Seriously, this is near the root of one of the reasons that I abandoned running Debian on my home system, despite the fact that I otherwise liked it. The tortured mess of X needing Y.1 and Z needing Y.2 and me wanting both X and Z was

Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-19 Thread Chris Ricker
On Wed, 19 Apr 2006, Dave Miner wrote: Not being a Debian user, I won't try to compare. I guess your experience with Solaris patches is more from the user end, whereas I'm looking at it from the creator/maintainer end; let's just say that there are a lot of resources expended to make sure

Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-19 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Thursday 13 April 2006 09:22 am, Dennis Clarke wrote: Discussion is fine .. lets discuss how to make the Solaris Community project at Blastwave even better. Ok, as long as it doesn't alienate other folks like Nexenta, Gentoo, pkgsrc, or other. Should you wish to join the Solaris

Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-19 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Wednesday 12 April 2006 11:02 pm, Bart Smaalders wrote: I'm both a user of blastwave and another Sun engineer cycle-stealing on this project. From my point of view, what I'd like to see happen with a community software distribution for Solaris Nevada is: 1) large scale participation of

[osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-19 Thread Eric Boutilier
Philip Brown wrote: On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 06:10:31PM -0700, Alan DuBoff wrote: Sun has staff now to handle most of what they do, but this doesn't allow Sun to work with the community. btw: there's a difference between working with the community, and meeting the needs of the

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: technical (kernel?) discussion list progress?

2006-04-19 Thread Dan Price
On Tue 18 Apr 2006 at 04:12PM, Eric Lowe wrote: Dan Price wrote: On Tue 18 Apr 2006 at 08:32AM, Eric Lowe wrote: As for the technical discussion list, as I've said before, I don't care about the means as long as we accomplish the ends. For all I care we can call it [EMAIL PROTECTED], and as

[osol-discuss] Community/Project Proposals Update: 4/19/06

2006-04-19 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Below is an update on the projects/communities proposed, approved, recently opened, or void since my last mail on 3/27. Sorry I missed a few weeks. I was out. I suck. I think I have everything up to date here since the last report, but if I'm missing anyone let me know. There are currently

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Community/Project Proposals Update: 4/19/06

2006-04-19 Thread Stephen Hahn
* Dev Mazumdar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-04-19 18:11]: How about the audio newsgroup I had proposed a while back?. You can propose new communities or new projects; see the instructions at the top of http://opensolaris.org/os/communities/ and http://opensolaris.org/os/projects/

[osol-discuss] Re: Mailx failure

2006-04-19 Thread Stephen Potter
I am trying to mail myself some logs from a Solaris 8 machine. I am getting some errors though. Below is the error: (I have replaced email address/domain) This really isn't appropriate for the OpenSolaris-discuss forum, a mailing list designed for discussion of the Open Source Open Solaris

[osol-discuss] What's the best backup utility with user friendly GUI in Unix/Linux world?

2006-04-19 Thread Yu-Hui Liu
Hi, there, Question is quite simple as subject. What's your prefer? Thanks. Calvin ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: technical (kernel?) discussion list progress?

2006-04-19 Thread Eric Lowe
Dan Price wrote: You said: as long as everybody knows to go there for technical questions, spec posts, and RFC submissions. That sounds like you're spreading your project's wings out over the charter of other communities and projects. That certainly wasn't the intent. I haven't seen

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: technical (kernel?) discussion list progress?

2006-04-19 Thread Moazam Raja
I guess the reference to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" in the announcement left some people confused and thinking that this was the new list previously being discussed in this thread. Wow...even that sounds confusing.-MoazamOn Apr 19, 2006, at 7:58 PM, Eric Lowe wrote:As you'll see we have removed the

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Community/Project Proposals Update: 4/19/06

2006-04-19 Thread Jim Grisanzio
* Dev Mazumdar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-04-19 18:11]: How about the audio newsgroup I had proposed a while back?. Damn. I figured I'd miss something. :) I saw this earlier and was going to comment but missed it. But Stephen commented below. You can propose new communities or new

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: technical (kernel?) discussion list progress?

2006-04-19 Thread Eric Lowe
Moazam Raja wrote: I guess the reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] in the announcement left some people confused and thinking that this was the new list previously being discussed in this thread. Wow...even that sounds confusing. I suppose the confusion isn't surprising,