Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Joerg Schilling wrote:
>>> Brian Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> So, why use GDM instead of KDM then? Other than "because it's there"
e to require a closed-source,
yet free, compiler to compile open source binaries (or if that's even allowed
by GPL), is something that could be suggested as a reason to change it, but
for now, those are the rules.
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g nv_70/70a/70b builds for
the last SXDE release, when trying to diagnose hardware on which Xorg
was failing to start, but I couldn't run "more /var/log/Xorg.0.log" in
the shell the installer dumped me into after X failed.(I think I
finally got /usr/bin/pg to work, s
rking from Sun - which should be additional incentive
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the other incompatibilities you note (and you missed a few
known incompatibilities, like libX11 & libXext in the Preview breaking
binary compatibility with Solaris X apps), isn't it a good thing that
uname warns you this isn't SunOS, so you know it's not compatible and
your scripts do
osed
source binary drivers will have full performance and functionality.
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n of replacing bugs.opensolaris.org is
underway - currently, the choices have been narrowed down to bugzilla, which
is being tested/evaluated at http://defect.opensolaris.org/ , using Project
Indiana and a few other projects as guinea pigs.
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it's unresourced and no one has the responsibility to improve it, hence the
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bugs - those go
to http://defect.opensolaris.org, where Indiana is being used as a test
subject to help evaluate bugzilla 3.0 to become the new bug db for OpenSolaris.
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sidered bugs or limitations
of the current preview, and not an intended end-state. I know I'm
expected to fix the X library issues that keep current Solaris binaries
like StarOffice from being able to run on Indiana.
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appropriate community group, or a generic list like opensolaris-bugs,
and ask for your bug report to be updated by a Sun employee.
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er bits not in the SXDE 9/07
release (which was build 70b).
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Mark Drummond wrote:
> I just downloaded the DVD for SXCR build 77. It appears to include SXDE
> as well. Is this SX
other program named "compare" has been, so I see no conflict. Neither
the OGB nor the ARC can be expected to regulate the namespace of every program
someone has written in the world, only those that have asked to be part of
OpenSolaris.
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t tried
contributing to OpenSolaris, and are still stuck in the pre-OpenSolaris
mode of trying to get code into Solaris, which is near impossible for an
outsider. Fortunately, OpenSolaris is here now - try the new process.
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used by a handful of people, and the reality is, ImageMagick is far more
widely used than your compare program.There is no world-wide registry of
open source command names we can force projects to check against to be sure
they
hanges - there's over 30,000 people here, and we all
do different things and disagree on many of them, and if you don't deal with
the individuals, nothing can ever happen.
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Robert wrote:
> ...and why is is not announced when there is an holdup?
http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=46262&tstart=0
http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=46369&tstart=90
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n/graphical-login/cde-login
> svcadm: Pattern 'svc:/application/graphical-login/cde-login' doesn't match
> any instances
What OS/release are you running? The cde login service was renamed
a while ago - you can 'svcs -a | grep login' to see if you have it
under a differ
ome time working on it - today, there's no one at Sun working on that, or
numerous other projects from 2004 that got cancelled and the teams either
reassigned or laid off.
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> Should a bug "fixed" in snv_66 be in S10 u4 (8/07) ?
No. They are two completely different branches of the tree,
and only a subset of the bugs fixed in snv are backported to
S10 updates.
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"Update #" names while they're under
development because release dates used in the final names may change),
so the patch for Solaris 10 is already in progress, because another customer
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graphics device to draw the text console, not just dropping into OBP to
make it draw text on the screen), and those drivers for SPARC graphics
are currently closed source (though redistributable).
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s only 4 of about
a dozen consolidations in SXDE, that's probably a bit more than
half the code base between them.
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will override any auto-probing Xorg does.
Correct - /etc/X11/.xorg.conf is the output of Xorg -configure from the
last boot. If no xorg.conf file is present, Xorg initializes the keyboard
layout based on what was set by the kbd command last - you'll have to
restart it after running kbd -s to
Other parts of third
party code in Solaris are tightly restricted and access only
available to the engineering teams who work on them.
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gh X,
and required us to make various programs stop grabbing the X
server, which blocked out all other clients while it was grabbed.
Of course, secure sites use Trusted Extensions which protects
you against such things.
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;s done the work for you.
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proach would be the Security community - you
can find them at:
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/security/
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break many applications - if you absolutely need it, set it only
for the applications that need it in wrapper scripts, not for
everything.
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x already been applied to
> OpenSolaris?
I don't know of any bug reports filed or fixes needed there.
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Any help in resolving this error is appreciated.
I've not seen that before, so I'm not sure what causes it.
Solaris 10 8/07 adds the X11R7.2 version of Xvfb in /usr/X11/bin/Xvfb - I
don't know if that will work any better for you or not.
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Kyle McDonald wrote:
> And I believe an update to SXDE is coming shortly that will bring it up
> to something (at least as new if not) newer than b78.
SXDE 1/08 is planned to be based on a respin of b79, and to be released in
a couple of weeks.
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server - what PCI device id does /usr/X11/bin/scanpci (need to run as
root) show for your video card?
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Mohan Chandrashekar wrote:
> Please let me know how I can contribute to this project.
Have you tried joining the mailing list shown on their project
page at http://opensolaris.org/os/project/samqfs/ and asking
there?
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Brian Gupta wrote:
> Alan,
>
> I can't find this list here: http://opensolaris.org/os/discussions/
>
> Is this because it isn't integrated with the website?
Looks like they have a mailing list, but not a web ("jive") forum.
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knowing what you're missing (I know what I think we need to fix
in Indiana before release, but that's probably not the same list
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utting this one pretty close, eh? ;-)
Marketing determined a while ago it was easier to just
declare the first week of February as "January 2.0" than
to go back and change the names everywhere when it slipped
a little. 8-)
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hope they are
> not about 3D or compiz. :-)
For Indiana, my highest priority items are about fixing the X packaging
and making the X11 libraries binary compatible with Solaris (they are not
right now, since they are mainly the current X11R7 versions without any
of the previous Solaris modifica
pparently not, eh?
It contains a fairly recent ksh93 that was integrated a few months ago.
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/pages/2007081701/
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/ksh93-integration/
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o support, so you don't link with libraries/functions that
aren't present in the older releases.
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en that we've already
got Nexenta, Schillix, Belenix and Martux.
Forks aren't always bad, nor unfriendly, and code often flows between
them.
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e GNOME base libraries or accessibility packages brings
them in - the package dependencies in xscreensaver's package (SUNWxwsvr)
don't specify them.
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be separate package.
Not unless you remove the ability to lock the screen and run the configuration
utility to choose a screensaver display module from the base package - it's
not just GNOME integration, but basic functionality that uses the gtk toolkit.
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users to be able to unlock the screen.We don't make things suid-root
without a damn good reason.
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Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Joerg Schilling wrote:
>>> Good question, but I don't know. The problem I see with Xscreensaver is that
>>> it is installed suid root on SXCE and thus is unable to read ~/.Xauthor
is open, and we take contributions, but Sun
has no reason to spend its resources doing it ourselves.
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Ken Gunderson wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:46:54 -0800
> Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Kyle McDonald wrote:
>> The missing link here is deciding it's worthwhile to do that work.
>> When xscreensaver was added to Solaris during one of the
ds to
Solaris 2
(now if we could only get the people entering the Code for Freedom contest
to do something simple but useful like that instead of correcting all our
comment typos...)
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s
trademark are being held on [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
not any of the other mailing lists you cc'ed - take it there or expect
them to not see it. (Followups set to there.)
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instead of 6.5.2 or the nvidia
version of OpenGL, it's not been our top priority (or at least few
people have told us if they do - the only thing I've been asked for
from 7.0.2 is the updated Intel driver support).
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at the same time
because Mesa & Xorg's GLX module are too tightly bound together.
We have an engineer looking at doing the upgrade of Mesa & the GLX
module, without the rest of Xorg, and you should see on xwin-discuss
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vada - there's already been Nevada
builds later than it released as SXCE - it's just planned to be the
last SXDE release.
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Kyle McDonald wrote:
> Not all bad in my opinion since we'll still have access to SXCE (I
> assume,)
Certainly we'll have to keep doing SXCE as long as you can only build
the OpenSolaris code on SXCE and not on Indiana - how long that will be,
I don't know.
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attention about a post on a driver, post it to driver-discuss.
If you want an Indiana team member to pay attention to a post on
Indiana contents, post it to indiana-discuss. Only if you want to
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drivers/files/
>
> Not sure where the ae driver is however.
The Indiana team is looking at what is needed to include ae and/or
unencumber pcn - whether either or both happens is TBD, but given
the problems in changing the names of network interfaces, just saying
we should drop in "ae&quo
o find other
than searching their archives, and I only see them for the
vermillion branch, not the nevada one delivered into SXCE.
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ment for two +1's? All I see
in the constitution (section 6.3) is that they must be nominated
by one current Member (aka Core Contributor) - no seconds or additional
support is listed as required.
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Glynn Foster wrote:
>
>
> Alan Coopersmith wrote:
>> Brandorr wrote:
>>> For those that aren't following Bugzilla, in order to become a
>>> candidate for the OGB, a person needs a nomination from a core
>>> contributor, *TWO* +1s from core
UNIX admin wrote:
> Good to know that Sun treats everyone fairly and equally, isn't it?
Many businesses offer volume discounts and other incentives to bigger
customers - does it really surprise you that Sun does as well?
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e in JDS & CDE.
(Probably need to split this into smaller chunks if doing by yourself in a
single semester.)
- Bluetooth stack and simple sample driver (mouse or keyboard maybe).
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dvds for
registering, with no intent needed to participate or ever come back
after the shipping form is filled out.
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at manually in the X
ones, since it's rare we need to do that and I know when it happens,
but I wouldn't know about any other consolidation. Perhaps this is
something the Tonic P-Team should discuss asking the consolidations
to think about?
[1] http://twitter.com/opensola
etting up Xvnc on Solaris Express/Nevada.
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sktop.org/xorg/xserver/log/hw/xfree86/xf1bpp/Makefile.am
)
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card?
As soon as ATI releases an open source driver, or enough information
to the open source developers so they can make a driver, we'll have
Solaris support.I have no idea if or when either of those are
likely to happen though.
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a very different market & product team.)
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It still has a few rough edges as we replace the legally encumbered
bits, but it's getting there.
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re.
>
> As soon as /bin/bash isn't the default shell,
Defaults are for people who have no preferences of their own.
I had no problem creating my account to use /bin/tcsh and copying
over my .cshrc with my $PATH. I'm sure someone who calls themself
"UNIX admin" can
t's with "Indiana" and JumpStart?
A gaping hole that our test teams continually remind us is needed and the
install team keeps pointing to the road map saying "We know, it's planned".
You're watching the soup being made, and not everything is in the pot yet.
no idea what the licenses between RealPlayer & the rest of the
world require - but I've seen some of the licenses Sun has that are
keeping SXCE trapped in the same situation, and they're not pretty.)
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on my SunBlade 2500
(now running nv_84 - I usually live upgrade to the current nevada build
every month or two).
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; fontconfig don't use gtk or glib at all - they're the layer
below GNOME - and thus completely unaffected by any of this ASSERTing.
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non-compliant CDE, and just added compiz...
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tool which will presumably be open sourced, and delivered somewhere else
(since CDE is going away and not having new stuff added to it).
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in both Sun Serial & USB versions. Type 5c was very different looking - it
was the Type 5 with permanently attached cable, instead of a port in the
keyboard that the cable plugged into.Sun serial keyboards had beepers
built in, including the Type 6 - Sun USB keyboards do not, including the
Typ
eeware.com, under contract from Sun, but with different
install locations and update schedules).
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s x86 HCL on the sun.com website.
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wondering if you might know what UPA cards are supported?
As far as I know, Sun was the only company to ever make UPA graphics
cards, and all UPA cards Sun made are supported by Solaris/OpenSolaris.
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lly find the JDS & SFW change logs by finding their
"new build available" e-mails in the desktop-discuss & sfwnv-discuss
archives.
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> i am sure you all have seen this before.
>
> i thought had thought the solution was to echo this line
> into the .profile or was it the profile file
>
> PATH=$PATH /usr/openwin/bin
You need a : in there, not a space:
PATH=$PATH:/usr/openwin/bin
--
PATH=$PATH:/usr/openwin/bin
>
> PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/ucb:/etc:.
This second setting of PATH overrides the first one.
You'll need to switch the order to make it work as
expected, since the openwin one adds to PATH instead
of replacing it.
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ly dominating among Sparc, x86_64
> and i386 or must I do all three?
i386 binaries can run unmodified on x86_64 as well, so you'ld only
need two to cover all platforms.
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heather valentine wrote:
> hi
>
> i would like some help with
> compiz on Solaris express
Install Solaris Express Community Edition build 85 or later,
or the OpenSolaris 2008.05 test (or wait a couple weeks for
final) and compiz is already included.
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http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-1984?l=en
and if you have questions on that, there's a tools-linking list/forum:
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/tools/discussions/
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asked us for it.I don't know of any
reason why not, but would have to ask the VirtualBox guys.
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hen installing Solaris under VMWare before you
can get to the point where you can install their guest tools.
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James Carlson wrote:
> We used to have such a thing in the Companion CD, but that's
> apparently fall out of favor with the rise of Indiana.
Actually the Companion CD is the main other IPS repository currently
available, hosted at sunfreeware.com.
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the external release may be similarly delayed. (They ended up
not fixing it in 88 and telling people to use one of the other
install methods this time around.)
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murdock who abandoned debian.
OpenSolaris cannot be released under the GPL as long as it
depends on closed binaries in core areas like the kernel
and libc - doing so would make it less free as no one could
then distribute a working system.
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limited to discussions between the few people working on it and the
lawyers reviewing the legal documents involved, since many of those
legal documents contain confidentiality clauses.
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D & Solaris - we
just got the ATI graphics DRM (Direct Rendering, not Digital Restrictions)
in nv_88 that was mostly developed by Linux guys (the primary
maintainer works at Red Hat), due to this.
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Bill Shannon wrote:
> Are or will the CDE libraries be available for OpenSolaris?
They are not currently available, and their availability is
under investigation right now, so we don't know yet if or when
they'll become available or which ones could be provided.
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