Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][L3] IPAM alternate refactoring

2015-04-13 Thread Carl Baldwin
Have we found the last of them? I wonder. I suppose any higher level service like a router that needs to create ports under the hood (under the API) will have this problem. The DVR fip namespace creation comes to mind. It will create a port to use as the external gateway port for that

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][L3] L3 Subteam Meeting Tomorrow

2015-04-08 Thread Carl Baldwin
the weekend, so I will be looking at it today (hopefully). John On 4/8/15, 11:26 AM, Carl Baldwin c...@ecbaldwin.net wrote: I will not be available to chair or attend the L3 sub team meeting tomorrow. Are others okay with canceling the meeting? Let me know if you have something to discuss

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][L3] L3 Subteam Meeting Tomorrow

2015-04-08 Thread Carl Baldwin
I will not be available to chair or attend the L3 sub team meeting tomorrow. Are others okay with canceling the meeting? Let me know if you have something to discuss. Carl __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Core API vs extension: the subnet pool feature

2015-03-30 Thread Carl Baldwin
Akihiro, If we go with the empty extension you proposed in the patch will that be acceptable? We've got to stop killing new functionality on the very last day like this . It just kills progress. This proposal isn't new. Carl On Mar 30, 2015 11:37 AM, Akihiro Motoki amot...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Core API vs extension: the subnet pool feature

2015-03-30 Thread Carl Baldwin
for understanding. Akihiro 2015-03-31 5:28 GMT+09:00 Carl Baldwin c...@ecbaldwin.net: Akihiro, If we go with the empty extension you proposed in the patch will that be acceptable? We've got to stop killing new functionality on the very last day like this . It just kills progress. This proposal isn't

[openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] [Neutron] allow_overlapping_ips (was: Deprecating the use_namespaces option ...)

2015-03-25 Thread Carl Baldwin
Yesterday, I got looking at another option that I had completely forgotten about. It is allow_overlapping_ips, set in neutron.conf and defaults to False. It appears that when it is False, Neutron doesn't allow any overlapping IPs throughout the deployment, across all networks. My guess is that

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] [Neutron] allow_overlapping_ips (was: Deprecating the use_namespaces option ...)

2015-03-25 Thread Carl Baldwin
Kevin, Thank you for your valuable insight here. Comments inline... On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Kevin Benton blak...@gmail.com wrote: This is a nice option for smaller deployments that didn't need the complexity of NAT. From a custom L3 plugin perspective, it also eliminated any single

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPAM] Address Scopes (was: Uniqueness of subnets within a tenant)

2015-03-23 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 8:56 AM, John Belamaric jbelama...@infoblox.com wrote: On 3/22/15, 8:05 PM, Ian Wells ijw.ubu...@cack.org.uk wrote: Seems to me that an address pool corresponds to a network area that you can route across (because routing only works over a network with unique

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPv6] Prefix delegation and user facing API thoughts

2015-03-23 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:04 PM, John Davidge (jodavidg) jodav...@cisco.com wrote: The above blueprint outlines an admin-configurable global default pool to be used in the case of a user calling subnet-create without specifying a CIDR or subnet-pool ID. If the OpenStack environment has been

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][neutron] Best API for generating subnets from pool

2015-03-23 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 8:52 AM, John Belamaric jbelama...@infoblox.com wrote: On 3/21/15, 9:10 AM, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com wrote: If we feel a need for specifying the relative position of gateway address and allocation pools when creating a subnet from a pool which will pick a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPAM] Uniqueness of subnets within a tenant

2015-03-23 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com wrote: I think the goal of subnet pools is to use these environments as units of isolations and ensure no overlapping CIDRs there. However, since there is no way to identify such environments at the API layers, API clients

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] IPAM reference driver status and other stuff

2015-03-23 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com wrote: Actually, I don't see this as a big deal or a failure. In fact, it may be quite common and useful for a given driver to store some state in its own tables (like the reference driver is doing). The primary goal is to

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][neutron] Best API for generating subnets from pool

2015-03-23 Thread Carl Baldwin
part? Am I alone in this? Carl On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Kevin Benton blak...@gmail.com wrote: What if we just call it 'address_index' and make it an integer representing the offset from the network start address? On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Carl Baldwin c...@ecbaldwin.net wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPv6] Prefix delegation and user facing API thoughts

2015-03-23 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 8:15 AM, Sean M. Collins s...@coreitpro.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 06:45:59AM PDT, John Davidge (jodavidg) wrote: In the IPv6 meeting yesterday you mentioned doing this with an extension rather than modifying the core API. Could you go into some detail about how

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][neutron] Best API for generating subnets from pool

2015-03-23 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Kevin Benton blak...@gmail.com wrote: How would you represent that you want the last address in a /26 network if you don't know what address range you are getting? 0.0.0.63? That seems pretty confusing when the resulting address turns out to be 192.168.10.191.

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][neutron] Best API for generating subnets from pool

2015-03-20 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: 2) Is the action of creating a subnet from a pool better realized as a different way of creating a subnet, or should there be some sort of pool action? Eg.: POST /subnet_pools/my_pool_id/subnet {'prefix_len': 24} which

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Deprecating the use_namespaces option - Now's the time to speak up!

2015-03-20 Thread Carl Baldwin
+1 Would like to hear feedback hoping that deprecation is viable. Carl On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Assaf Muller amul...@redhat.com wrote: Hello everyone, The use_namespaces option in the L3 and DHCP Neutron agents controls if you can create multiple routers and DHCP networks managed

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][neutron] Best API for generating subnets from pool

2015-03-20 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: What about this instead? POST /v2.0/subnets { 'network_id': 'meh', 'gateway_ip_template': '*.*.*.1' 'prefix_len': 24, 'pool_id': 'some_pool' } At least that way it's clear the gateway attribute is not an IP,

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][neutron] Best API for generating subnets from pool

2015-03-20 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com wrote: I thought about doing *s but in the world of Classless Inter-Domain Routing where not all networks are /24, /16, or /8 it seemed a bit imprecise. But, maybe that doesn't matter. So do a CIDR host address: 0.0.0.1/24 can

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][neutron] Best API for generating subnets from pool

2015-03-20 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com wrote: Template is totally the wrong word. It is a host address without a network. The prefix is there for the same purpose, to OR it back into a network address. I just want us to stop inventing things that already exist. You

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPAM] Uniqueness of subnets within a tenant

2015-03-20 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: This is a question purely out of curiousity. Why is Neutron averse to the concept of using tenants as natural ways of dividing up the cloud -- which at its core means multi-tenant, on-demand computing and networking? From

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][neutron] Best API for generating subnets from pool

2015-03-20 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/20/2015 02:51 PM, Carl Baldwin wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: What about this instead? POST /v2.0/subnets { 'network_id': 'meh', 'gateway_ip_template': '*.*.*.1

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][neutron] Best API for generating subnets from pool

2015-03-20 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: How is 0.0.0.1 a host address? That isn't a valid IP address, AFAIK. It isn't a valid *IP* address without the network part. However, it can be referred to as the host address on the network or the host part of the IP address.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] IPAM reference driver status and other stuff

2015-03-17 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Mar 15, 2015 6:42 PM, Salvatore Orlando * the ML2 plugin overrides several methods from the base db class. From what I gather from unit tests results, we have not yet refactored it. I think to provide users something usable in Kilo we should ensure the ML2 plugin at least works with the IPAM

Re: [openstack-dev] IPAM reference driver status and other stuff

2015-03-14 Thread Carl Baldwin
Here is an update from our discussion this morning in IRC [1]. The discussion involved mainly Pavel, Salvatore, and me. We first discussed testing the integration of Salvatore's work [2] on the reference driver with Pavel's work to load a driver [3] and refactor the db_base_plugin [4]. Pavel

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPAM] Uniqueness of subnets within a tenant

2015-03-12 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Ryan Moats rmo...@us.ibm.com wrote: While I'd personally like to see this be restricted (Carl's position), I know of at least one existence proof where management applications are doing precisely what Gabriel is suggesting - reusing the same address range to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPAM] Uniqueness of subnets within a tenant

2015-03-11 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 2:54 PM, John Belamaric jbelama...@infoblox.com wrote: I was proposing that the reference driver not support it either, and we only handle that use case via the non-pluggable implementation in Kilo, waiting until Liberty to handle it in the pluggable implementation.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPAM] Uniqueness of subnets within a tenant

2015-03-11 Thread Carl Baldwin
...@infoblox.com wrote: On 3/12/15, 12:46 AM, Carl Baldwin c...@ecbaldwin.net wrote: When talking with external IPAM to get a subnet, Neutron will pass both the cidr as the primary identifier and the subnet_id as an alternate identifier. External systems that do not allow overlap can Recall that IPAM driver

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][neutron] Best API for generating subnets from pool

2015-03-10 Thread Carl Baldwin
Honestly, I'm a little frustrated that this is coming up now when we tried very hard to discuss this during the spec review and we thought we got to a resolution. It seems a little late to go back to the drawing board. On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 7:05 AM, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][neutron] Best API for generating subnets from pool

2015-03-10 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Tidwell, Ryan ryan.tidw...@hp.com wrote: With implicit allocations, the thinking is that this is where a subnet is created in a backward-compatible way with no subnetpool_id and the subnets API’s continue to work as they always have. Correct. In the case of a

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPAM] Uniqueness of subnets within a tenant

2015-03-10 Thread Carl Baldwin
tenants and support the isolation of these address spaces. The IPAM rework will support this. Carl Baldwin __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][neutron] Best API for generating subnets from ool

2015-03-10 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:53 AM, Miguel Ángel Ajo majop...@redhat.com wrote: a) What if the subnet pools go into an external network, so, the gateway is predefined and external, we may want to be able to specify it, we could assume the convention that we’re going to expect the gateway to be

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPAM] Uniqueness of subnets within a tenant

2015-03-10 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Gabriel Bezerra gabri...@lsd.ufcg.edu.br wrote: Em 10.03.2015 14:24, Carl Baldwin escreveu: I'd vote for allowing against such restriction, but throwing an error in case of creating a router between the subnets. I can imagine a tenant running multiple

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][neutron] Best API for generating subnets from pool

2015-03-10 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com wrote: I guess that frustration has now become part of the norm for Openstack. It is not the first time I frustrate people because I ask to reconsider decisions approved in specifications. I'm okay revisiting decisions.

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Proposal to add Ihar Hrachyshka as a Neutron Core Reviewer

2015-03-04 Thread Carl Baldwin
+1 On Mar 4, 2015 12:44 PM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com wrote: I'd like to propose that we add Ihar Hrachyshka to the Neutron core reviewer team. Ihar has been doing a great job reviewing in Neutron as evidence by his stats [1]. Ihar is the Oslo liaison for Neutron, he's been doing a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] db-level locks, non-blocking algorithms, active/active DB clusters and IPAM

2015-02-25 Thread Carl Baldwin
jOn Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 5:07 AM, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com wrote: Lazy-Stacker summary: I am doing some work on Neutron IPAM code for IP Allocation, and I need to found whether it's better to use db locking queries (SELECT ... FOR UPDATE) or some sort of non-blocking algorithm.

Re: [openstack-dev] ECMP on Neutron virtual router

2015-02-24 Thread Carl Baldwin
It doesn't support this at this time. There are no current plans to make it work. I'm curious to know how you would like for this to work in your deployment. Carl On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 11:32 AM, NAPIERALA, MARIA H mn1...@att.com wrote: Does Neutron router support ECMP across multiple static

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Update on DB IPAM driver

2015-02-14 Thread Carl Baldwin
I must have archived this on accident. Sorry to not respond earlier. Comments inline... On Feb 12, 2015 6:40 AM, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com wrote: I have updated the patch; albeit not complete yet it's kind of closer to be an allocator decent enough to replace the built-in logic. I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Update on DB IPAM driver

2015-02-14 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Feb 13, 2015 5:54 AM, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com wrote: - Considering an alternative to availability ranges. Pre-generation of IP entries is unpractical (think IPv6), so that's not an option. Unfortunately, I have not yet explored in detail this route. The availability range stuff

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Update on DB IPAM driver

2015-02-14 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 6:36 AM, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com wrote: - I agree with Carl that the IPAM driver should not have explicit code paths for autoaddress subnets, such as DHCPv6 stateless ones. In that case, the consumer of the driver will generate the address and then to the

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] high dhcp lease times in neutron deployments considered harmful (or not???)

2015-01-28 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com wrote: The patch Kevin points out increased the lease to 24 hours (which I agree is as arbitrary as 2 minutes, 8 minutes, or 1 century) because it introduced use of DHCPRELEASE message in the agent, which is supported by

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] iptables routes are not being injected to router namespace

2015-01-23 Thread Carl Baldwin
manager defer_apply() code isn't quite right. -Brian On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Brian Haley brian.ha...@hp.com mailto:brian.ha...@hp.com mailto:brian.ha...@hp.com mailto:brian.ha...@hp.com wrote: On 01/22/2015 10:17 AM, Carl Baldwin wrote: I

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] iptables routes are not being injected to router namespace

2015-01-22 Thread Carl Baldwin
I think this warrants a bug report. Could you file one with what you know so far? Carl On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Brian Haley brian.ha...@hp.com wrote: On 01/21/2015 02:29 PM, Xavier León wrote: On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:32 PM, Brian Haley brian.ha...@hp.com wrote: On 01/20/2015 09:20

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Changes to the core team

2015-01-16 Thread Carl Baldwin
+1 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com wrote: The last time we looked at core reviewer stats was in December [1]. In looking at the current stats, I'm going to propose some changes to the core team. Reviews are the most important part of being a core reviewer, so

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][L3] Stop agent scheduling without topping sevices

2015-01-08 Thread Carl Baldwin
I added a link to @Jack's post to the ML to the bug report [1]. I am willing to support @Itsuro with reviews of the implementation and am willing to consult if you need and would like to ping me. Carl [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1408488 On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 7:49 AM, McCann,

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable][neutron] minimal dnsmasq version

2015-01-08 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 9:25 PM, Kevin Benton blak...@gmail.com wrote: If the new requirement is expressed in the neutron packages for the distro, wouldn't it be transparent to the operators? I think the difficulty first lies with the distros. If the required new version isn't in an older

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][Spec freeze exception] Rootwrap daemon ode support

2015-01-06 Thread Carl Baldwin
Miguel, Thanks again for taking this on. I went looking for the rootwrap daemon code today in gerrit and found it here [1]. I can allocate some review cycles to help get this merged early in the cycle. Please keep us posted on your progress refreshing the code. Carl [1]

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][L3] Stop agent scheduling without stopping sevices

2015-01-06 Thread Carl Baldwin
Itsuro, It would be desirable to be able to be hide an agent from scheduling but no one has stepped up to make this happen. Come to think of it, I'm not sure that a bug or blueprint has been filed yet to address it though it is something that I've wanted for a little while now. Carl On Mon,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proper use of 'git review -R'

2015-01-05 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Jeremy Stanley fu...@yuggoth.org wrote: On 2014-12-30 09:46:35 -0500 (-0500), David Kranz wrote: [...] Can some one explain when we should *not* use -R after doing 'git commit --amend'? [...] In the standard workflow this should never be necessary. The

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proper use of 'git review -R'

2015-01-05 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Jeremy Stanley fu...@yuggoth.org wrote: On 2014-12-30 12:31:35 -0500 (-0500), David Kranz wrote: [...] 1. This is really a UI issue, and one that is experienced by many. What is desired is an option to look at different revisions of the patch that show only

[openstack-dev] No meetings on Christmas or New Year's Days

2014-12-22 Thread Carl Baldwin
The L3 sub team meeting [1] will not be held until the 8th of January, 2015. Enjoy your time off. I will try to move some of the refactoring patches along as I can but will be down to minimal hours. Carl [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-L3-Subteam

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Looking for feedback: spec for allowing additional IPs to be shared

2014-12-17 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Thomas Maddox thomas.mad...@rackspace.com wrote: Hey all, It seems I missed the Kilo proposal deadline for Neutron, unfortunately, but I still wanted to propose this spec for Neutron and get feedback/approval, sooner rather than later, so I can begin working

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] mid-cycle update

2014-12-11 Thread Carl Baldwin
We also spent a half day progressing the Ipam work and made a plan to move forward. Carl On Dec 10, 2014 4:16 PM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com wrote: The Neutron mid-cycle [1] is now complete, I wanted to let everyone know how it went. Thanks to all who attended, we got a lot done. I admit

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] mid-cycle hot reviews

2014-12-09 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:33 AM, Miguel Ángel Ajo majop...@redhat.com wrote: Hi all! It would be great if you could use this thread to post hot reviews on stuff that it’s being worked out during the mid-cycle, where others from different timezones could participate. I think we've used the

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Freeze on L3 agent

2014-12-08 Thread Carl Baldwin
For the next few weeks, we'll be tackling L3 agent restructuring [1] in earnest. This will require some heavy lifting, especially initially, in the l3_agent.py file. Because of this, I'd like to ask that we not approve any non-critical changes to the L3 agent that are unrelated to this

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] [RFC] Floating IP idea solicitation and collaboration

2014-12-07 Thread Carl Baldwin
Ryan, I have been working with the L3 sub team in this direction. Progress has been slow because of other priorities but we have made some. I have written a blueprint detailing some changes needed to the code to enable the flexibility to one day run glaring ups on an l3 routed network [1].

Re: [openstack-dev] Session length on wiki.openstack.org

2014-12-04 Thread Carl Baldwin
+1 I've been meaning to say something like this but never got around to it. Thanks for speaking up. On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Tony Breeds t...@bakeyournoodle.com wrote: Hello Wiki masters, Is there anyway to extend the session length on the wiki? In my current work flow I login to

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] - the setup of a DHCP sub-group

2014-11-24 Thread Carl Baldwin
Don, Could the spec linked to your BP be moved to the specs repository? I'm hesitant to start reading it as a google doc when I know I'm going to want to make comments and ask questions. Carl On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Don Kehn dek...@gmail.com wrote: If this shows up twice sorry for the

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] L3 agent restructuring notes

2014-11-22 Thread Carl Baldwin
Paul, I worked much of this in to my blueprint [1]. Carl [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131535/4/specs/kilo/restructure-l3-agent.rst On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Paul Michali (pcm) p...@cisco.com wrote: Hi, I talked to Carl today to discuss the L3 agent restructuring and the

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][L3] Reminder: Meeting Thursday at 1500 UTC

2014-11-19 Thread Carl Baldwin
The Neutron L3 team will meet [1] tomorrow at the regular time. I'd like to discuss the progress of the functional tests for the L3 agent to see how we can get that on track. I don't think we need to wait for the BP to merge before get something going. We will likely not have a meeting next

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][L2 Agent][Debt] Bootstrapping an L2 agent debt repayment task force

2014-11-18 Thread Carl Baldwin
At the recent summit, we held a session about debt repayment in the Neutron agents [1]. Some work was identified for the L2 agent. We had a discussion in the Neutron meeting today about bootstrapping that work. The first order of business will be to generate a blueprint specification for the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Stale patches

2014-11-18 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Jeremy Stanley fu...@yuggoth.org wrote: This has come up before... if you don't want to see stale patches you can use Gerrit queries or custom dashboards to only show you patches with recent activity. If all patches older than some specific date get abandoned,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Stale patches

2014-11-17 Thread Carl Baldwin
+1. I always hesitate to abandon someone's patch because it is so personal. The auto-expire is impersonal and procedural. I agree that 1 week is too soon. Give it at least a month. Abandoned patches that have some importance shouldn't ever really be lost. They should be linked to bug reports

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement

2014-11-13 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com wrote: No worries, you get one day off over the weekend. And you also get to choose if it's saturday or sunday. I didn't think it was going to be a whole day. Salvatore On 13 November 2014 20:05, Kevin Benton

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] the possible use of dhcp client id

2014-11-12 Thread Carl Baldwin
Hi Chuck, I should probably chime in since I made the initial comment in the first place. I hate to derail the progress you've made with the blueprint you have up now but this is worth some discussion. On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Chuck Carlino chuckjcarl...@gmail.com wrote: It has been

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][L3] Team Meeting Thursday at 1500 UTC

2014-11-12 Thread Carl Baldwin
Reminder that the L3 subteam meeting will be tomorrow at 1500 UTC. Remember that daylight savings time may have ended since the last meeting and the meeting will come an hour earlier. I'd like to talk about the subjects discussed at the summit. Specifically, we had design sessions about paying

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron]why FIP is integrated into router not as a separated service like XxxaaS?

2014-11-05 Thread Carl Baldwin
I don't think I know the precise answer to your question. My best guess is that floating ips were one of the initial core L3 features implemented before other advanced services existed. Implementing them in this way may have been the path of least resistance at the time. Are you suggesting a

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][opendaylight]OpenDaylight Neutron Plugin design session etherpad

2014-11-03 Thread Carl Baldwin
https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/odl-neutron-plugin On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Richard Woo richardwoo2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, what is etherpad link for opendaylight neutron plugin design session? http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/5a430f46842e9239ea6c29a69cbe4e84#.VFdhdPTF-0E

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] BGP - VPN BoF session in Kilo design summit

2014-10-30 Thread Carl Baldwin
schedule. I propose Wednesday afternoon. If Carl Baldwin is agree, we can talk about it also during the open discussion of today's L3 subteam meeting. [1]: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125401/ [ ​2]: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125401/ [3]: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/bgp-vpn

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][nova] New specs on routed networking

2014-10-28 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Kevin Benton blak...@gmail.com wrote: I think the simplest use case is just that a provider doesn't want to deal with extending L2 domains all over their datacenter. This is similar to a goal behind [1] and [2]. I'm trying to figure out where the commonalities

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][nova] New specs on routed networking

2014-10-28 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Rohit Agarwalla (roagarwa) roaga...@cisco.com wrote: Agreed. The way I'm thinking about this is that tenants shouldn't care what the underlying implementation is - L2 or L3. As long as the connectivity requirements are met using the model/API, end users should

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] FWaaS/Security groups Not blocking ongoing traffic

2014-10-27 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 6:34 AM, Simon Pasquier spasqu...@mirantis.com wrote: Hello Itzik, This has been discussed lately on this ML. Please see https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1335375. This is a good example that any create, update, or delete of a SG rule can expose this issue. This

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] FWaaS/Security groups Not blocking ongoing traffic

2014-10-27 Thread Carl Baldwin
I think I'd suggest opening a new bug for FWaaS since it is a different component with different code. It doesn't seem natural to extend the scope of this bug to include it. Carl On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Itzik Brown itbr...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Carl

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Killing connection after security group rule deletion

2014-10-24 Thread Carl Baldwin
Hi Elena, On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 4:22 AM, Elena Ezhova eezh...@mirantis.com wrote: Kill the connection using conntrack The problem here is that it is sometimes impossible to tell which connection should be killed. For example there may be two instances running in different

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Killing connection after security group rule deletion

2014-10-24 Thread Carl Baldwin
Miguel Ángel, On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 5:56 AM, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo mangel...@redhat.com wrote: Temporarily removing this entry doesn't seem like a good solution to me as we can't really know how long do we need to remove this rule to induce the connection to close at both ends (it will

Re: [openstack-dev] Travels tips for the Paris summit

2014-10-24 Thread Carl Baldwin
+1 It would be great to know where to go in the airport and what to ask for for a good 1 - 1.5 week prepaid GSM data plan. Carl On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Mathieu Gagné mga...@iweb.com wrote: On 2014-10-14 11:35 AM, Adrien Cunin wrote: Hi everyone, Inspired by the travels tips

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Killing connection after security group rule deletion

2014-10-24 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 6:17 AM, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com wrote: Assigning a distinct ct zone to each port sounds more scalable. This should keep the number of zones per host Agree that zones could be a good solution to this problem. +1 to zone / port for scalability. Though it

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][L3][IPAM] No Team Meeting Thursday

2014-10-22 Thread Carl Baldwin
I just had a conflict come up. I won't be able to make it to the meeting. I wanted to announce that IPAM is very likely topic for a design session at the summit. I will spend some time reviewing the old etherpads starting here [1] since the topic was set aside early in Juno. Carl [1]

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Updates to the weekly Neutron meting

2014-10-13 Thread Carl Baldwin
Kyle, This works for me. My only comment is that linking sub team pages from the Neutron meeting page served a dual purpose. It attached it to the agenda -- which is now deprecated -- and it served as sort of an anchor for the sub team in to the Neutron team on the wiki. At least for the L3

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Updates to the weekly Neutron meting

2014-10-13 Thread Carl Baldwin
] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NeutronSubTeams On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Carl Baldwin c...@ecbaldwin.net wrote: Kyle, This works for me. My only comment is that linking sub team pages from the Neutron meeting page served a dual purpose. It attached it to the agenda -- which is now

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [All] API standards working group

2014-09-24 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:05 AM, David Stanek dsta...@dstanek.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I'd be willing to head up the working group... or at least participate

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][L3] Team Meeting Thursday at 1500 UTC

2014-09-24 Thread Carl Baldwin
The Neutron L3 Subteam will meet tomorrow at the regular time and place. The agenda and details are posted [1]. I think the RC1 ship will have sailed for most potential fixes by then so I'd like to take some time during the meeting tomorrow to chat about the work that is coming up for Kilo.

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][L3] Sub team meeting cancelled

2014-09-18 Thread Carl Baldwin
I have a conflict today. Keep working on RC1. Carl ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [OSSN 0020] Disassociating floating IPs does not terminate NAT connections with Neutron L3 agent

2014-09-16 Thread Carl Baldwin
Hi, There is current work in review to use conntrack to terminate these connections [1][2] much like you suggested. I hope to get this in to RC1 but it needs another iteration. For Kilo, I'd like to explore stateless forwarding for floating ips. Since conntrack is the root of the security issue

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][Infra] Moving DVR experimental job to the check queue

2014-09-16 Thread Carl Baldwin
Hi, Neutron would like to move the distributed virtual router (DVR) tempest job, currently in the experimental queue, to the check queue [1]. It will still be non-voting for the time being. Could infra have a look? We feel that running this on all Neutron patches is important to maintain the

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][IPv6] Neighbor Discovery for HA

2014-09-04 Thread Carl Baldwin
Han On 09/04/2014 06:06 AM, Carl Baldwin wrote: It should be noted that send_arp_for_ha is a configuration option that preceded the more recent in-progress work to add VRRP controlled HA to Neutron's router. The option was added, I believe, to cause the router to send (default) 3 GARPs

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][IPv6] Neighbor Discovery for HA

2014-09-03 Thread Carl Baldwin
It should be noted that send_arp_for_ha is a configuration option that preceded the more recent in-progress work to add VRRP controlled HA to Neutron's router. The option was added, I believe, to cause the router to send (default) 3 GARPs to the external gateway if the router was removed from one

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Juno-3 BP meeting

2014-08-26 Thread Carl Baldwin
Kyle, These are three good ones. I've been reviewing the HA ones and have had an eye on the other two. 1300 is a bit early but I'll plan to be there. Carl On Aug 26, 2014 4:04 PM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com wrote: I'd like to propose a meeting at 1300UTC on Thursday in

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Need community weigh-in on requests-mock

2014-08-22 Thread Carl Baldwin
I put this in the review but will repeat it here. +1 to adding the dependency with the tests that you've written to require it when those tests have been reviewed and accepted. I don't have an objection to adding requests-mock as a test-requirement. Carl On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Paul

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][L3] Team Meeting Thursday at 1500 UTC

2014-08-20 Thread Carl Baldwin
The Neutron L3 Subteam will meet tomorrow at the regular time in #openstack-meeting-3. The agenda [1] is posted, please update as needed. Carl [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-L3-Subteam#Agenda ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][L3] HA Router Review Help

2014-08-18 Thread Carl Baldwin
Hi all, This is intended for those readers interested in reviewing and soon merging the HA routers implementation for Juno. Assaf Muller has written a blog [1] about this new feature which serves as a good overview. It will be useful for reviewers to get up to speed and I recommend reading it

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Rotating the weekly Neutron meeting

2014-08-13 Thread Carl Baldwin
+1 On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com wrote: Per this week's Neutron meeting [1], it was decided that offering a rotating meeting slot for the weekly Neutron meeting would be a good thing. This will allow for a much easier time for people in Asia/Pacific

[openstack-dev] Neutron][L3] Team Meeting Thursday at 1500 UTC

2014-08-13 Thread Carl Baldwin
The Neutron L3 Subteam will meet tomorrow at the regular time in #openstack-meeting-3. The agenda [1] is posted, please update as needed. Carl [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-L3-Subteam#Agenda ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

Re: [openstack-dev] [designate] [neutron] designate and neutron integration

2014-08-11 Thread Carl Baldwin
kazuhiro MIYASHITA, I have done a lot of thinking about this. I have a blueprint on hold until Kilo for Neutron/Designate integration [1]. However, my blueprint doesn't quite address what you are going after here. An assumption that I have made is that Designate is an external or internet

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][L3] Team Meeting Thursday at 1500 UTC

2014-08-06 Thread Carl Baldwin
Apologies for the late notice... The Neutron L3 Subteam will meet tomorrow at the regular time in #openstack-meeting-3. The agenda [1] is posted, please update as needed. Carl [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-L3-Subteam#Agenda ___

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] specs.openstack.org is live

2014-08-05 Thread Carl Baldwin
I have a spec proposal in play that crosses the Nova/Neutron boundary. I split it in to two specs: a nova spec [1] and a Neutron spec [2]. There is a little duplication between the two at a high level but not in the details. Each of the specs references the other at various spots in the text and

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][oslo] Problem installing oslo.config-1.4.0.0a3 from .whl files

2014-08-05 Thread Carl Baldwin
Hi, I noticed this yesterday afternoon. I tried to run pep8 and unit tests on a patch I was going to submit. It failed with an error that no package satisfying oslo.config could be found [1]. I went to pypi and saw that the version appears to be available [2] but still couldn't install it. I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][oslo] Problem installing oslo.config-1.4.0.0a3 from .whl files

2014-08-05 Thread Carl Baldwin
). It fixed this problem for me. Regards, Alexei On 05/08/14 23:00, Carl Baldwin wrote: Hi, I noticed this yesterday afternoon. I tried to run pep8 and unit tests on a patch I was going to submit. It failed with an error that no package satisfying oslo.config could be found [1]. I went

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Spec exceptions are closed, FPF is August 21

2014-08-01 Thread Carl Baldwin
Armando's point #2 is a good one. I see that we should have raised awareness of this more than we did. The bulk of the discussion and the development work moved over to the oslo team and I focused energy on other things. What I didn't realize was that the importance of this work to Neutron did

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][L3] Team Meeting Thursday at 1500 UTC

2014-07-30 Thread Carl Baldwin
The Neutron L3 Subteam will meet tomorrow at the regular time in #openstack-meeting-3. The agenda [1] is posted, please update as needed. See you there! The initial DVR implementation has merged as of today. Please review the notes and log from the DVR meeting today [2]. I will be sure to

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