Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] versioning and releases

2014-06-17 Thread Robert Collins
to be no reason to do one release every 6 months of olso.*, and doing so seems likely to only incur costs, since the discipline needed to do regular semver with good backwards compat is a discipline we're going to have to exercise anyway. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Reducing quota below utilisation

2014-06-17 Thread Robert Collins
Makes sense to me On 18 Jun 2014 06:18, "Tim Bell" wrote: > > > We have some projects which are dynamically creating VMs up to their > quota. Under some circumstances, as cloud administrators, we would like > these projects to shrink and make room for other higher priority work. > > > > We had in

Re: [openstack-dev] Gate proposal - drop Postgresql configurations in the gate

2014-06-16 Thread Robert Collins
On 16 Jun 2014 22:33, "Sean Dague" wrote: > > On 06/16/2014 04:33 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > Robert Collins wrote: > >> [...] > >> C - If we can't make it harder to get races in, perhaps we can make it > >> easier to get races out. We have

Re: [openstack-dev] Gate proposal - drop Postgresql configurations in the gate

2014-06-16 Thread Robert Collins
On 16 Jun 2014 20:33, "Thierry Carrez" wrote: > > Robert Collins wrote: > > [...] > > C - If we can't make it harder to get races in, perhaps we can make it > > easier to get races out. We have pretty solid emergent statistics from > > every gate j

Re: [openstack-dev] Gate proposal - drop Postgresql configurations in the gate

2014-06-14 Thread Robert Collins
I think #2 is just as important to realize as #1. As such I think we > need to get to the point where there are a relatively small number of > configurations that Infra/QA support, and beyond that every job needs > sponsors. And if the job success or # of uncateg

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Distributed locking

2014-06-14 Thread Robert Collins
thing are delivered through e.g. galera in the DB layer. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] masking X-Auth-Token in debug output - proposed consistency

2014-06-13 Thread Robert Collins
rainbow tables AIUI: if folk realise we have tokens exposed, they will just use a botnet to build a table specifically targetting us. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle collaborative meetup

2014-06-09 Thread Robert Collins
>> >> ___ >> OpenStack-dev mailing list >> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > > ___ >

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Fuel] relationship btw TripleO and Fuel

2014-06-09 Thread Robert Collins
t; OpenStack. It provides user-friendly Web interface for installations > management, simplifying OpenStack installation up to a few clicks. > > Best Regards > Leslie > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.op

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Introducing task oriented workflows

2014-06-03 Thread Robert Collins
On 23 May 2014 10:34, Salvatore Orlando wrote: > As most of you probably know already, this is one of the topics discussed > during the Juno summit [1]. > I would like to kick off the discussion in order to move towards a concrete > design. > > Preamble: Considering the meat that's already on the

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle collaborative meetup

2014-06-02 Thread Robert Collins
el situation is yet so I can't commit to being > there on any dates, but I can certainly say which dates would work for > me if I can make it. > > -Ben > > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

[openstack-dev] [TripleO][CI] reduced capacity, rebuilding hp1 region

2014-05-29 Thread Robert Collins
uirks or workarounds. If you are interested please do jump into #tripleo and chat to myself or DerekH about how you can help out. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@list

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][mysql] IMPORTANT: MySQL Galera does *not* support SELECT ... FOR UPDATE

2014-05-29 Thread Robert Collins
ervasively through both Neutron and OpenStack as a whole. Its baseline sanity for SQL usage C) Implement more sophisticated schemas/update logic to reduce/eliminate SELECT FOR UPDATE. C seems like substantially more review and design work than B, while B isn't &#

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][mysql] IMPORTANT: MySQL Galera does *not* support SELECT ... FOR UPDATE

2014-05-29 Thread Robert Collins
ct - the pros *and cons*. There's a certain amount of hybrid vigour we get from supporting multiple backends - we can scale in ways that a single backend might not; we can deploy in environments that have hard corporate policies about 'the one true $X is $Y'. -Rob -- Robert Collins

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle collaborative meetup

2014-05-28 Thread Robert Collins
are intending to join, please, fill yourselves into this etherpad: > https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-midcycle-meetup > > Cheers > -- Jarda > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.open

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] nova default quotas

2014-05-28 Thread Robert Collins
calable, low-maintenance way. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] CI needs YOU

2014-05-27 Thread Robert Collins
ployed clouds which >> we manage ourselves. We've had quite a few issues, mostly hardware >> related, and some related to the fact that TripleO doesn't have HA yet, >> so our CI clouds go down whenever our controllers go down. >> >> Anyway, Derek Higgins, Dan

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] glusterfs: Looking for reviews for my patch

2014-05-26 Thread Robert Collins
ck-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Haproxy configuration options

2014-05-26 Thread Robert Collins
ough: > It would occur on a control node which removes the security benefits (I > still wanted to make sure this point is made :)). We should capture that nuance in the spec, and in the (related) multiple-hypervisors-for-deployments spec where I pointed out similar security concerns earlier t

[openstack-dev] [Tempest][Neutron][TripleO][Ironic] flaky CI tests - 'Unable to enable DHCP for $net-uuid' - bug 1323152

2014-05-25 Thread Robert Collins
ed in Ironic/Tempest/devstack or is a genuine Neutron bug (though there is some reason to think its a Neutron bug based on the kibana search I linked in the bug). -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev ma

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Haproxy configuration options

2014-05-25 Thread Robert Collins
is is a bit overkill given our current state, but I think for now its > important we terminate external SSL earlier on: See ML thread linked > above for reasoning. If I read this correctly, you're arguing yourself back to the "User -> hap

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Spec Template Change Proposal

2014-05-21 Thread Robert Collins
(I don't think we have any yet), but before I go through > that, I wanted to make sure there wasn't a major disagreement. > > Thoughts? > > _______ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailma

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Haproxy configuration options

2014-05-21 Thread Robert Collins
On 18 May 2014 08:17, Miller, Mark M (EB SW Cloud - R&D - Corvallis) wrote: > We are considering the following connection chain: > >-> HAProxy -> stunnel ->OS services bound to > 127.0.0.1 > Virtual IP server IP localhost

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] Post-summit next steps

2014-05-19 Thread Robert Collins
onward to Juno. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Moving to a formal design process

2014-05-18 Thread Robert Collins
endors to > propose specs for the features they are working on once the initial work on > the repo is complete (hopefully before end-of-week). > > Regards, > Devananda > > > [*] eg.: > http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-April/032753.html > > __

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] headsup: passing additional parameters to heat.

2014-05-08 Thread Robert Collins
derivation logic to determine their value - if we need to set an option to work in test VMs where the production value is different, we should guard it somehow - e.g. by seeing if we're using VMs, or if the option is already present in the environment file honour that value. -Rob -- Robert Co

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] openstack/tripleo-specs repository online

2014-05-06 Thread Robert Collins
On 2 May 2014 18:05, Robert Collins wrote: > Thanks to Derek and the infra folk we now have a tripleo-specs repo - yay. > > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91741/ needs to land before it will > DTRT after cloning - but! - please add any outstanding unapproved > blueprints ther

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] HAProxy and Keystone setup (in Overcloud)

2014-05-05 Thread Robert Collins
e same in both cases. >> > > +1 I think outputs are good here, but indeed we should not be exposing the control plane innards: thats what the virtual IP is for - lets export that out of Heat, along with the port #, and thats it. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Co

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] openstack/tripleo-specs repository online

2014-05-01 Thread Robert Collins
Thanks to Derek and the infra folk we now have a tripleo-specs repo - yay. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91741/ needs to land before it will DTRT after cloning - but! - please add any outstanding unapproved blueprints there. Thanks, Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra][neutron]SystemExit() vs sys.exit()?

2014-05-01 Thread Robert Collins
-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Location of Monitoring Checks

2014-04-29 Thread Robert Collins
Or have a check-mk.d directory and pull stuff on from there automatically On 30 Apr 2014 04:03, "Gregory Haynes" wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I have a patch in flight at the moment [0] to install check_mk server > and compliment the already merged installation of check_mk agent [1] so my > th

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] [Keystone] [TripleO] Making use of domains by name - policy and API issues?

2014-04-28 Thread Robert Collins
a lookup and work around this. Since its trivial to write such a thunk, what benefit is there to your users - e.g. TripleO/heat/nova not have it in keystone itself? -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ Ope

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] Accepted sessions - ACTION REQUIRED

2014-04-27 Thread Robert Collins
dilute the topic here a bit)1,1,1 -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] May/deferred sessions

2014-04-27 Thread Robert Collins
ck.org/cfp/details/203 Om Kumar Unreviewed TripleO TripleO Roadmap http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/347 Ryan Brady Unreviewed .5, TripleO Documentation Improvement http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/329 Ryan Brady Unreviewed 1,1,1 Robert Collins Distinguished Techn

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Summit] Topic review for Atlanta

2014-04-27 Thread Robert Collins
On 22 April 2014 20:45, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Robert Collins wrote: >> I've pulled the summit talks into an etherpad >> (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-icehouse-summit) - btw, who >> can review these within the system itself? > > As the lead for the T

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Summit] Topic review for Atlanta

2014-04-27 Thread Robert Collins
the global list of etherpads - make any feedback changes reviewers may have requested. Cheers, Ro b On 22 April 2014 12:01, Robert Collins wrote: > I've pulled the summit talks into an etherpad > (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-icehouse-summit) - btw, who > can review these

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat][Summit] Input wanted - real world heat spec

2014-04-24 Thread Robert Collins
at spectrum it lies :) Its a modest reworking and synthesis of existing ideas, with some real world operator experience, healthy paranoia about system reliability and scaling concerns mixed in. > BTW, it appears that the schedule you're suggesting involves assigning a > bunch of

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat][Summit] Input wanted - real world heat spec

2014-04-24 Thread Robert Collins
On 25 April 2014 04:49, Chris Armstrong wrote: > On April 23, 2014 at 7:47:37 PM, Robert Collins (robe...@robertcollins.net) > wrote: > > Hi, we've got this summit session planned - > http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/428 which is really about > https://etherp

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat][Summit] Input wanted - real world heat spec

2014-04-24 Thread Robert Collins
changes we >> need to make. Wherever we're at with the convergence step that was last >> triggered can just be cancelled by the new one. > > Seems that we need a protocol for cancelling an operation then ... I think Clint meant 'undoes' not 'cancels the in-progre

[openstack-dev] [Heat][Summit] Input wanted - real world heat spec

2014-04-23 Thread Robert Collins
isting attempts to design solutions which relied on keeping the basic internals of heat as-is and just tweaking things - an approach we don't believe will work - the issues arise from the current architecture, not the quality of the code (which is fine). Cheers, Lifeless, Spamaps and Radix --

[openstack-dev] [TripleO][Summit] Topic review for Atlanta

2014-04-21 Thread Robert Collins
ce time in the summit is precious - things that are straight engineering are not a particularly effective use of the time of a room with 30-80 people in it. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev ma

[openstack-dev] TC candidacy - not running

2014-04-16 Thread Robert Collins
work - I don't believe I've got the bandwidth to do complete justice to both roles, so I'm going to focus on the PTL role over the next cycle. Naturally, I may well volunteer my time at the next TC vote, depending on project status, bandwidth and so on :) -Rob -- Robert Co

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Thoughts from the PTL -- possible mid cycle meetup dates

2014-04-15 Thread Robert Collins
On 16 April 2014 11:28, Michael Still wrote: > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Hugh O. Brock wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 09:30:45AM +1200, Robert Collins wrote: > >>> Redhat offered to host the next TripleO midcycle meetup in Raleigh, I >>> don't know if

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] reviewer update march [additional cores]

2014-04-15 Thread Robert Collins
This has been actioned. Welcome! -Rob On 8 April 2014 11:50, Robert Collins wrote: > tl;dr: 3 more core members to propose: > bnemec > greghaynes > jdon > > > On 4 April 2014 08:55, Chris Jones wrote: >> Hi >> >> +1 for your proposed -core changes.

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][design] review based conceptual design process

2014-04-15 Thread Robert Collins
On 16 April 2014 09:15, James Slagle wrote: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Robert Collins > wrote: >> I've been watching the nova process, and I think its working out well >> - it certainly addresses: >> - making design work visible >> - being able

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Thoughts from the PTL

2014-04-15 Thread Robert Collins
if they have space for Nova & TripleO at once, but I'd love to get more collaboration time betwixt Nova and TripleO. The TripleO midcycle meetups are 'doing' meetings, not planning meetings - but plenty of planning does still happen ;) Date wise, how about before OSCON ? PyCon

[openstack-dev] [TripleO][design] review based conceptual design process

2014-04-15 Thread Robert Collins
ing we can just add docs to incubator, since thats already a repository separate to our production code - what do folk think? -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.ope

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] tripleo-heat-templates migration to software-config: please rebase on top

2014-04-14 Thread Robert Collins
merge.py. > > Hey Clint, > > Sorry for the confusion and any extra work this caused you. I missed that our > new policy was not to land *any* TripleO heat template changes until your > software config branch goes in. I usually try to keep up with the list but I > missed th

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] [TripleO] [Tuskar] Demo of current state of "Tuskar-UI"

2014-04-10 Thread Robert Collins
x27;s thrilling to see all the effort folk have been putting into this - I just showed it to one of our product folk here and they really love it ;) -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list Ope

Re: [openstack-dev] [Tripleo][Neutron] Tripleo & Neutron

2014-04-10 Thread Robert Collins
ron-dhcp agent can be configured as active/active. > > But l3-agent and metadata-agent still should be active/passive, Why should the metadata-agent be active-passive? -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my!

2014-04-09 Thread Robert Collins
os-apply-config to break hard this way, than through bad metadata. I think I'm ok with the sentiment, but nervous about impl. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

[openstack-dev] [Tripleo] Reminder! Sessions! Summit!

2014-04-09 Thread Robert Collins
Summit time is here - please suggest sessions :) -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Server Groups are not an optional element, bug or feature ?

2014-04-09 Thread Robert Collins
t; Historical data should go somewhere else. +1. Fastest way to make an OLTP workload crawl is to mix it up with warehousing. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

[openstack-dev] [TripleO][reviewers] passthru config option - priority

2014-04-08 Thread Robert Collins
We had a long chat about this in the meeting today. we had rough consensus on the following path of action - we'll put together a quick-but-effective config passthrough mechanism, with a goal of landing it in the next few days - it needs to handle tie and tht - we need a pass through vector for

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my!

2014-04-08 Thread Robert Collins
day one of their deploy - so we need a way to: - deliver a great out of the box experience - let higher order configuration - cluster aware - be done well - whilst also surfacing the plumbing as needed. Right now we have no differentiation between plumbing exposure and semantically modelled confi

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my!

2014-04-08 Thread Robert Collins
On 8 April 2014 11:51, Dan Prince wrote: > > > - Original Message - >> From: "Robert Collins" >> To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List" >> Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 4:00:30 PM >> Subject: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options,

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] reviewer update march [additional cores]

2014-04-07 Thread Robert Collins
oom-to-improve issue vs not-good-enough-for-core - to me it makes sense to propose him for core too. Jay's reviews are also very good and consistent, somewhere between Greg and Ben in terms of bigger-context awareness - so another definite +1 from me. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distin

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my!

2014-04-07 Thread Robert Collins
27;re having to override a default. If the option is really a case of 1a) I'm not sure we want it configurable at all. Thoughts? -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lis

[openstack-dev] [TripleO][Ironic][Nova-BM] avoiding self-power-off scenarios

2014-04-05 Thread Robert Collins
elf pm address - in the Nova Ironic driver add instance metadata with the pm address (only) of the node Then we can just glue the instance metadata field to the conductor config key. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud _

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] reviewer update march

2014-04-03 Thread Robert Collins
see under 33% of the code changes going on (we're doing about 10 commits a day - twice as many since december - and hopefully not slowing down!) Cheers, Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] PTL Candidacy

2014-04-02 Thread Robert Collins
nt experience feedback to the project we deploy * expanding our coverage to deploy everything * Migrating to Tuskar for everything but the deployment of the seed Obviously, if you have questions please ask! -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Techno

[openstack-dev] [TripleO][CI] all overcloud jobs failing

2014-03-27 Thread Robert Collins
if you any concerns about impacting deployments - please run 'check experimental' before approving things ;) -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.o

[openstack-dev] [TripleO][Ironic][CI] current status

2014-03-27 Thread Robert Collins
. There is not currently an Ironic based overcloud job; we may add one in future. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/m

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] sample config files should be ignored in git...

2014-03-26 Thread Robert Collins
bout we make a copy of the latest config for each project for each series - e.g. trunk of everything, Icehouse of servers with trunk of everything else, etc and make that easily acccessible? -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][Keystone] Move drivers credentials to Keystone

2014-03-26 Thread Robert Collins
ng multiple machines talking to one IPMI device is a great way to exceed session limits and cause lockups. These seem fundamental showstoppers to me. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

[openstack-dev] [TripleO][reviews] We're falling behind

2014-03-25 Thread Robert Collins
uld be fixed in stone. And now - time for a loose vote - who (who is a tripleo core today) supports / disagrees with this proposal - lets get some consensus here. I'm in favour, obviously :), though it is hard to put reviews ahead of direct itch scratching, its the only way to scale the proje

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] test environment requirements

2014-03-24 Thread Robert Collins
details about devtest on openstack for now since I > figured everyone else could add their thoughts in their own words. I think it would be super useful if you could capture all the things in one place - it will mean we don't need to chase folk up to ensure their idea is present in the et

[openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tempest]

2014-03-24 Thread Robert Collins
cloud, and in fact its better to run it from there than from e.g. the seed, because otherwise the jenkins slave is idle, just wasting all the ram it used to build images. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStac

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] test environment requirements

2014-03-23 Thread Robert Collins
_ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev I like this. I also like much of the spread of ideas that came up - lets capture them to an etherpad and link that from a bluepr

Re: [openstack-dev] [Marconi][TC] Withdraw graduation request

2014-03-20 Thread Robert Collins
On 21 March 2014 12:18, Jay Pipes wrote: > This is a very mature stance and well-written email. Thanks, Flavio and > all of the Marconi team for having thick skin and responding to the > various issues professionally. +1 -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Conver

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] improving developer experience etherpad

2014-03-20 Thread Robert Collins
thing, so - sorry that I took time to send this note - please do dive in and we'll get some consensus around the direction to take things. Cheers, Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing lis

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Alternating meeting time for more TZ friendliness

2014-03-19 Thread Robert Collins
a fully equipped firing squad, a last cigarette and > a blindfold. > - Erik de Castro Lopo > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.o

Re: [openstack-dev] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-19 Thread Robert Collins
t to make. I don't think Marconi is dumb, but I sure don't understand why . Thank you! -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.open

Re: [openstack-dev] Updating libvirt in gate jobs

2014-03-18 Thread Robert Collins
a good reason. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74600/ might be a good reason. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

[openstack-dev] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-18 Thread Robert Collins
h a horrid antipattern its been a standing joke in many organisations I've been in - and yet we're preparing to graduate *exactly that* which is frankly perplexing. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenS

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Manual scheduling nodes in maintenance mode

2014-03-18 Thread Robert Collins
put into maintenance mode, keep publishing it to the scheduler, but add an extra spec to it that won't match any request automatically. Then 'deploy X to a maintenance node machine' is simple nove boot with a scheduler hint to explicitly choose that machine, and all the regular machin

Re: [openstack-dev] Automatic version creation in PBR

2014-03-17 Thread Robert Collins
one or part of pbr? pbr has significant issues with dependencies due to its installation in the early bootstrap stage of setup.py. So, it will be in pbr. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev ma

Re: [openstack-dev] Automatic version creation in PBR

2014-03-17 Thread Robert Collins
On 18 March 2014 07:28, Jay Pipes wrote: > On Mon, 2014-03-17 at 16:10 +1300, Robert Collins wrote: > Hi Rob, thanks for the heads up. > > A number of us use pbr for outside-of-OpenStack projects, and have > relied on it for things like proper package versioning using git tags.

[openstack-dev] Automatic version creation in PBR

2014-03-16 Thread Robert Collins
o 'version' key in setup.cfg) untagged commits. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Heat] os-cloud-config ssh access to cloud

2014-03-16 Thread Robert Collins
On 17 March 2014 10:32, Steve Baker wrote: > On 17/03/14 10:14, Robert Collins wrote: >> On 17 March 2014 09:20, Steve Baker wrote: >> >>> It looks like the cert files you want to transfer are all ascii rather than >>> binary, which is good as we have yet to

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Heat] os-cloud-config ssh access to cloud

2014-03-16 Thread Robert Collins
te? We include an SSH key in ascii form already with no issue. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] test environment requirements

2014-03-13 Thread Robert Collins
eployments are. OTOH testing the micro-cloud that folk may start with is also a really good idea -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.ope

Re: [openstack-dev] testr help

2014-03-10 Thread Robert Collins
gt;>> Internet.) >>> >> https://launchpad.net/testrepository is linked from pypi > > > Ah, thanks. I looked at that page, but in my head I thought I had once seen > a Git repo for it and I couldn't see a link from there... I never guessed > that the upstrea

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] milestone-proposed branches

2014-03-03 Thread Robert Collins
l process is aimed at moving things from incubator into stable trees as they mature. We'll be stabilising the interfaces in tripleo-heat-templates and tripleo-image-elements somehow in future too - but we don't have good answers to some aspects there yet. BUT We want to support members of th

[openstack-dev] [TripleO][Reviewers] Please add openstack/os-cloud-config to your tripleo-repositories-to-review

2014-03-01 Thread Robert Collins
This is a new repository to provide common code for tuskar and the seed initialisation logic - the post heat completion initial configuration of a cloud. Cheers, Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Tripleo][CI] check-tripleo outage

2014-03-01 Thread Robert Collins
#x27;ll replace the motherboard. That said, infra isn't spinning up nodes properly, but manual testing brings up nodes just fine with plenty of network speed, so we're not sure whats up. -Rob On 25 February 2014 13:08, Robert Collins wrote: > Today we had an outage of the tripleo test

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Dev] [Cinder] Open Source and community working together

2014-03-01 Thread Robert Collins
y to address concerns > about a submitted patch is to provide a review for that patch. +1000 > Everybody has a voice and the ability to participate, and the most effective > way to do that is by thorough, timely and constructive code reviews. +1000 -Rob -- Robert Collins

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] milestone-proposed branches

2014-03-01 Thread Robert Collins
.openstack.org/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates > http://git.openstack.org/openstack/diskimage-builder These: > http://git.openstack.org/openstack/os-collect-config > http://git.openstack.org/openstack/os-refresh-config > http://git.openstack.org/openstack/os-apply-config don

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][keystone] Increase of USER_ID length maximum from 64 to 255

2014-03-01 Thread Robert Collins
ations of all target DB platforms, so we do still need to cater for this. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Tripleo][CI] check-tripleo outage

2014-02-26 Thread Robert Collins
On 27 February 2014 20:35, Robert Collins wrote: ' > Checking new instance connectivity next. DHCP is functional and no cloud-init errors, so we should be fully up. -Rob Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ O

Re: [openstack-dev] [Tripleo][CI] check-tripleo outage

2014-02-26 Thread Robert Collins
On 27 February 2014 15:55, Derek Higgins wrote: > On 25/02/14 00:08, Robert Collins wrote: >> Today we had an outage of the tripleo test cloud :(. >> >> tl;dr: >> - we were down for 14 hours >> - we don't know the fundamental cause >> - infra were

Re: [openstack-dev] [Tripleo][CI] check-tripleo outage

2014-02-26 Thread Robert Collins
Looking into it now. On 27 Feb 2014 15:56, "Derek Higgins" wrote: > On 25/02/14 00:08, Robert Collins wrote: > > Today we had an outage of the tripleo test cloud :(. > > > > tl;dr: > > - we were down for 14 hours > > - we don't know the fundam

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][TripleO] Neutron DB migrations best practice

2014-02-25 Thread Robert Collins
g weird questions in #openstack-neutron. But what are we meant to do? Nova etc are dead easy: nova-manage db sync every time the code changes, done. Neutron seems to do something special and different here, and it's not documented from an ops perspective AFAICT - so - please help, cluebats n

[openstack-dev] [Tripleo] tripleo-cd-admins team update / contact info question

2014-02-25 Thread Robert Collins
away from the keyboard at the time*. And possibly a third: - a way for openstack-infra admins to escalate to us in the event of OMG things happening. Like, we send 1000 VMs all at once at their git mirrors or something. And with that lets open the door for ideas! -Rob -- Robert Collins

[openstack-dev] [Tripleo][CI] check-tripleo outage

2014-02-24 Thread Robert Collins
ng, and did not clear until we did a rolling restart of every nova compute process. https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1284356 Cheers, Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@li

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][review] Please treat -1s on check-tripleo-*-precise as voting.

2014-02-23 Thread Robert Collins
oblem, fix it sufficiently for CI (e.g. even if we end up running a patched nova while nova review the patches thats better than no CI). -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][review] Please treat -1s on check-tripleo-*-precise as voting.

2014-02-20 Thread Robert Collins
On 18 February 2014 04:30, Derek Higgins wrote: > On 17/02/14 01:25, Robert Collins wrote: >> Hi! >> >> The nascent tripleo-gate is now running on all tripleo repositories, >> *and should pass*, but are not yet voting. They aren't voting because >> we ca

Re: [openstack-dev] Sent the first batch of invitations to Atlanta's Summit

2014-02-17 Thread Robert Collins
On 18 February 2014 13:25, Robert Collins wrote: > How do you put the code in? It's asking for a credit card no matter what I > do.. > NVM. Found the nicely styled small text in low contrast colour. /me headdesks -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP C

Re: [openstack-dev] Sent the first batch of invitations to Atlanta's Summit

2014-02-17 Thread Robert Collins
___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

[openstack-dev] [Tripleo]help needed - nodepool and zuul support for ci-overcloud

2014-02-17 Thread Robert Collins
even if a provider can't be contacted. The other is to have zuul timeout jobs that don't start at all. Both should be small - < 1 day of dev for a cold start on the project. Pure python. -Rob -- Robert Collins Distinguished Technolo

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