Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat][Neutron] Refactoring heat LBaaS architecture according Neutron API

2014-02-20 Thread Mitsuru Kanabuchi
Hi Sergey, On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 19:58:14 +0400 Sergey Kraynev wrote: > Hello community. > > I'd like to discuss feature of Neutron LBaaS in Heat. > Currently Heat resources are not identical to Neutron's. > There are four resources here: > 'OS::Neutron::HealthMonitor' > 'OS::Neu

Re: [openstack-dev] Monitoring IP Availability

2014-02-20 Thread Tim Bell
Are these hooks generic enough to be included upstream ? This may solve a problem we've been struggling with. Tim > -Original Message- > From: Collins, Sean [mailto:sean_colli...@cable.comcast.com] > Sent: 20 February 2014 22:59 > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage qu

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] v3 API in Icehouse

2014-02-20 Thread Kenichi Oomichi
> -Original Message- > From: Christopher Yeoh [mailto:cbky...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 11:44 AM > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] v3 API in Icehouse > > On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:36:46 -0500 > Russell Bryant wrote: > > > Gree

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Fixes for the alembic migration (sqlite + postgress) aren't being reviewed

2014-02-20 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 02/21/2014 06:13 AM, Vincent Untz wrote: >Le jeudi 20 février 2014, à 12:02 -0800, Armando M. a écrit : >> No action on a negative review means automatic expiration, if you lose >> interest in something you care about whose fault is that? > > I beg to disagree. If we let patches go to automatic

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] v3 API in Icehouse

2014-02-20 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 08:22 -0500, Sean Dague wrote: > I agree that we shouldn't be rushing something that's not ready, but I > guess it raises kind of a meta issue. > > When we started this journey this was because v2 has a ton of warts, is > completely wonky on the code internals, which leads to

[openstack-dev] [Nova][glance] Question about evacuate with no shared storage..

2014-02-20 Thread Sangeeta Singh
Hi, At my organization we do not use a shared storage for VM disks but need to evacuate VMs from a HV that is down or having problems to another HV. The evacuate command only allows the evacuated VM to have the base image. What I am interested in is to create a snapshot of the VM on the down

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][review] Please treat -1s on check-tripleo-*-precise as voting.

2014-02-20 Thread Robert Collins
On 18 February 2014 04:30, Derek Higgins wrote: > On 17/02/14 01:25, Robert Collins wrote: >> Hi! >> >> The nascent tripleo-gate is now running on all tripleo repositories, >> *and should pass*, but are not yet voting. They aren't voting because >> we cannot submit to the gate unless jenkins votes

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Automatic Evacuation

2014-02-20 Thread Georgy Okrokvertskhov
Hi, If I am not mistaken Mistral team listed Live migration as a potential use case for workflow engine. There is no much details though. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mistral#Live_migration As I know Mistral plan to implement generic event handling mechanism when one can bind any kind of work

[openstack-dev] Devstack failing when configuring it to use v3 api

2014-02-20 Thread Vijayendra Bvs
Hi, In order to explore domains in OS, I tried setting up devstack with the v3 api by changing this line in stackrc from: IDENTITY_API_VERSION=2.0 to: IDENTITY_API_VERSION=3 and running stack.sh. However, stack.sh runs into a host of errors that follow the same pattern, with an error "ERROR:

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] "SAML consumption" Blueprints

2014-02-20 Thread Dolph Mathews
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 4:18 AM, Marco Fargetta wrote: > Dear all, > > I am interested to the integration of SAML with keystone and I am analysing > the following blueprint and its implementation: > > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/saml-id > > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7135

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] blueprint: Nova with py33 compatibility

2014-02-20 Thread 郭小熙
agree with that , thank you the the input , let hold on this until we have a clear roadmap. 2014-02-21 8:47 GMT+08:00 Sean Dague : > On 02/20/2014 07:34 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:48 PM, 郭小熙 wrote: > >> Yes, a Jenkins job is not useful currently. I would like to submit

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] blueprint: Nova with py33 compatibility

2014-02-20 Thread Sean Dague
On 02/20/2014 07:34 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: > On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:48 PM, 郭小熙 wrote: >> Yes, a Jenkins job is not useful currently. I would like to submit some >> commits to >> fix known python 3 support issues as we did in oslo-incubator. Another >> question >> is how to make new changes avoid

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] blueprint: Nova with py33 compatibility

2014-02-20 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:48 PM, 郭小熙 wrote: > Yes, a Jenkins job is not useful currently. I would like to submit some > commits to > fix known python 3 support issues as we did in oslo-incubator. Another > question > is how to make new changes avoid regression, Maybe we need add more rules > about

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] blueprint: Nova with py33 compatibility

2014-02-20 Thread 郭小熙
Yes, a Jenkins job is not useful currently. I would like to submit some commits to fix known python 3 support issues as we did in oslo-incubator. Another question is how to make new changes avoid regression, Maybe we need add more rules about this in hacking and consider python 3 support in review

Re: [openstack-dev] supported dependency versioning and testing

2014-02-20 Thread Sean Dague
On 02/20/2014 06:30 PM, Sabari Murugesan wrote: > But I do think running a job with lowest version may still help a > developer realize that a feature in the latest library is not available > in an older supported version. The person can then bump up the library's > min version in the requirements.

Re: [openstack-dev] supported dependency versioning and testing

2014-02-20 Thread Sabari Murugesan
But I do think running a job with lowest version may still help a developer realize that a feature in the latest library is not available in an older supported version. The person can then bump up the library's min version in the requirements. Today, it;s not possible to find this out until some

Re: [openstack-dev] [solum] async / threading for python 2 and 3

2014-02-20 Thread Angus Salkeld
On 20/02/14 13:52 +0100, victor stinner wrote: Hi, On 19/02/14 10:09 +0100, Julien Danjou wrote: >On Wed, Feb 19 2014, Angus Salkeld wrote: > >> 2) use tulip and give up python 2 > >+ use trollius to have Python 2 support. > > https://pypi.python.org/pypi/trollius So I have been giving this a

Re: [openstack-dev] supported dependency versioning and testing

2014-02-20 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:06:25 -0500 Sean Dague wrote: > > Honestly, I think our experience in even doing a homogenous gate > means I think we should let the distros come in with 3rd party > testing on those results. Because we don't really have the bw, in > either people or machines, to explode th

Re: [openstack-dev] supported dependency versioning and testing

2014-02-20 Thread Sean Dague
On 02/20/2014 05:50 PM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: > On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:45:03 -0500 > Sean Dague wrote: >> >> So I'm one of the first people to utter "if it isn't tested, it's >> probably broken", however I also think we need to be realistic about >> the fact that if you did out the permutations

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Automatic Evacuation

2014-02-20 Thread Sean Dague
On 02/20/2014 05:32 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: > On 02/20/2014 05:05 PM, Costantino, Leandro I wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Would like to know if there's any interest on having 'automatic >> evacuation' feature when a compute node goes down. >> I found 3 bps related to this topic: >>[1] Adding a periodic

Re: [openstack-dev] supported dependency versioning and testing

2014-02-20 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:45:03 -0500 Sean Dague wrote: > > So I'm one of the first people to utter "if it isn't tested, it's > probably broken", however I also think we need to be realistic about > the fact that if you did out the permutations of dependencies and > config options, we'd have as many

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Fixes for the alembic migration (sqlite + postgress) aren't being reviewed

2014-02-20 Thread Armando M.
On 20 February 2014 14:13, Vincent Untz wrote: > Le jeudi 20 février 2014, à 12:02 -0800, Armando M. a écrit : >> Thomas, >> >> I feel your frustration, however before complaining please do follow >> the actual chain of events. >> >> Patch [1]: I asked a question which I never received an answer t

Re: [openstack-dev] sphinxcontrib-pecanwsme 0.7 released

2014-02-20 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: > Hi Doug, > > > 2014-02-20 17:37 GMT+01:00 Doug Hellmann : > > sphinxcontrib-pecanwsme is an extension to Sphinx for documenting APIs >> built with the Pecan web framework and WSME. >> >> What's New? >> === >> >> - Remove the trailing

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Automatic Evacuation

2014-02-20 Thread Russell Bryant
On 02/20/2014 05:05 PM, Costantino, Leandro I wrote: > Hi, > > Would like to know if there's any interest on having 'automatic > evacuation' feature when a compute node goes down. > I found 3 bps related to this topic: >[1] Adding a periodic task and using ServiceGroup API for > compute-node s

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Automatic Evacuation

2014-02-20 Thread 한승진
Im also curious about that. I think it is proper that ceilometer should have the role of Mornitoring vm. Nova just opens auto-evacuate API, when a trigger calls the API nova calls like shelve api for the vm re-spawn. What do you think of this? 2014. 2. 21. 오전 7:13에 "Costantino, Leandro I" < leandro

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] Does scenario.test_minimum_basic need to upload ami images?

2014-02-20 Thread David Kranz
On 02/20/2014 04:53 PM, Sean Dague wrote: On 02/20/2014 04:31 PM, David Kranz wrote: Running this test in tempest requires an ami image triple to be on the disk where tempest is running in order for the test to upload it. It would be a lot easier if this test could use a simple image file instea

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Fixes for the alembic migration (sqlite + postgress) aren't being reviewed

2014-02-20 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 20 février 2014, à 12:02 -0800, Armando M. a écrit : > Thomas, > > I feel your frustration, however before complaining please do follow > the actual chain of events. > > Patch [1]: I asked a question which I never received an answer to. > Patch [2]: I did put a -1, but I have nothing aga

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Including Domains in Nova

2014-02-20 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
Hi Henrique I disagree with the idea that the other services should use domains. They need a concept of hierarchical ownership which we have been discussiong. Domains is one way of representing such an ownership hierarchy but i think it is too limited. The POC code I created for hierarchical m

[openstack-dev] [nova] Automatic Evacuation

2014-02-20 Thread Costantino, Leandro I
Hi, Would like to know if there's any interest on having 'automatic evacuation' feature when a compute node goes down. I found 3 bps related to this topic: [1] Adding a periodic task and using ServiceGroup API for compute-node status [2] Using ceilometer to trigger the evacuate api.

Re: [openstack-dev] Monitoring IP Availability

2014-02-20 Thread Collins, Sean
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:53:51AM +, Vilobh Meshram wrote: > Hello OpenStack Dev, > > We wanted to have your input on how different companies/organizations, using > Openstack, are monitoring IP availability as this can be useful to track the > used IP’s and total number of IP’s. A while ag

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] Does scenario.test_minimum_basic need to upload ami images?

2014-02-20 Thread Sean Dague
On 02/20/2014 04:31 PM, David Kranz wrote: > Running this test in tempest requires an ami image triple to be on the > disk where tempest is running in order for the test to upload it. It > would be a lot easier if this test could use a simple image file > instead. That image file could even be obta

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] Does scenario.test_minimum_basic need to upload ami images?

2014-02-20 Thread Frittoli, Andrea (HP Cloud)
Thanks David, +++ This is a strong dependency to devstack, and it would be nice if we could lose it. andrea -Original Message- From: David Kranz [mailto:dkr...@redhat.com] Sent: 20 February 2014 21:32 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List Subject: [openstack-dev] [qa] Does scenario.te

[openstack-dev] [qa] Does scenario.test_minimum_basic need to upload ami images?

2014-02-20 Thread David Kranz
Running this test in tempest requires an ami image triple to be on the disk where tempest is running in order for the test to upload it. It would be a lot easier if this test could use a simple image file instead. That image file could even be obtained from the cloud being tested while configur

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] blueprint: Nova with py33 compatibility

2014-02-20 Thread Russell Bryant
On 02/20/2014 09:43 AM, 郭小熙 wrote: > We will move to Python33 in the future. More and more OpenStack projects > including python-novaclient are Python33 compatible. Do we have plan to > make Nova python33 compatible ? > > As I know, oslo.messaging will not support python33 in Icehouse,this is > ju

Re: [openstack-dev] Monitoring IP Availability

2014-02-20 Thread Jay Pipes
On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 00:53 +, Vilobh Meshram wrote: > Hello OpenStack Dev, > > We wanted to have your input on how different companies/organizations, > using Openstack, are monitoring IP availability as this can be useful > to track the used IP’s and total number of IP’s. I presume you are t

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Fixes for the alembic migration (sqlite + postgress) aren't being reviewed

2014-02-20 Thread Armando M.
Thomas, I feel your frustration, however before complaining please do follow the actual chain of events. Patch [1]: I asked a question which I never received an answer to. Patch [2]: I did put a -1, but I have nothing against this patch per se. This was only been recently abandoned and my -1 lied

Re: [openstack-dev] supported dependency versioning and testing

2014-02-20 Thread Sean Dague
On 02/20/2014 01:31 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: > Hi All, > > I discussion recently came up inside of nova about what it means > supported version for a dependency means. in libvirt we gate on the > minimal version that we support but for all python dependencies we > gate on the highest version that pa

[openstack-dev] [savanna] team meeting minutes Feb 20

2014-02-20 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Thanks everyone who have joined Savanna meeting. Here are the logs from the meeting: Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/savanna/2014/savanna.2014-02-20-18.03.html Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/savanna/2014/savanna.2014-02-20-18.03.log.html -- Sincerely yours, Sergey

Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] renaming: initial voting

2014-02-20 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
We've agreed to send top 5 options to foundation for review, more details - http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/savanna/2014/savanna.2014-02-20-18.03.html On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Sergey Lukjanov wrote: > I've contacted foundation and they are ready to verify 5 options, so, > we'll

Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] Lease by tenants feature design

2014-02-20 Thread Sanchez, Cristian A
I agree with Bauza that the main purpose of Climate is to reserve resources, and in the case of keystone it should reserve tenant, users, domains, etc. So, it could be possible that climate is not the module in which the tenant “lease” information should be saved. As stated in the use case, the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Nominate Oleg Bondarev for Core

2014-02-20 Thread Edgar Magana
Congratulations Oleg!!! No need for welcoming you to the team, you were already part of ;-) Edgar From: Oleg Bondarev Reply-To: OpenStack List Date: Thursday, February 20, 2014 6:43 AM To: OpenStack List Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Nominate Oleg Bondarev for Core Thanks Mark

Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] Lease by tenants feature design

2014-02-20 Thread Sylvain Bauza
2014-02-20 19:32 GMT+01:00 Dina Belova : > Sylvain, as I understand in BP description, Christian is about not exactly > reserving tenants itself like we actually do with VMs/hosts - it's just > naming for that. I think he is about two moments: > > 1) mark some tenants as "needed to be reserved" -

[openstack-dev] [designate] Designate Icehouse-2 Release

2014-02-20 Thread Betsy Luzader
Today we have released Designate Icehouse-2. The high-level launchpad details can be found at https://launchpad.net/designate/icehouse/icehouse-2, as well as a link to the tar file. This release includes almost a dozen blueprints, including one for Domain Import/Export, as well as numerous bug f

Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] Lease by tenants feature design

2014-02-20 Thread Martinez, Christian
Dina: Yes, I'm talking about that. Thanks for the clarification. Sylvain, let me put the use case that we have: As part of project/tenant creation we would like to mark the tenant in such a way that climate will automatically create a lease for the resources. All non-production tenants/projects

Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] Lease by tenants feature design

2014-02-20 Thread Dina Belova
Sylvain, as I understand in BP description, Christian is about not exactly reserving tenants itself like we actually do with VMs/hosts - it's just naming for that. I think he is about two moments: 1) mark some tenants as "needed to be reserved" - speaking about resources assigned to it 2) reserve

[openstack-dev] Incubation Request: Murano

2014-02-20 Thread Georgy Okrokvertskhov
All, Murano is the OpenStack Application Catalog service which has been developing on stackforge almost 11 months. Murano has been presented on HK summit on unconference track and now we would like to apply for incubation during Juno release. As the first step we would like to get feedback from T

[openstack-dev] supported dependency versioning and testing

2014-02-20 Thread Joe Gordon
Hi All, I discussion recently came up inside of nova about what it means supported version for a dependency means. in libvirt we gate on the minimal version that we support but for all python dependencies we gate on the highest version that passes our requirements. While we all agree that having

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Notification When Creating/Deleting a Tenant in openstack

2014-02-20 Thread Nader Lahouti
Thanks Dolph for link. The document shows the format of the message and doesn't give any info on how to listen to the notification. Is there any other document showing the detail on how to listen or get these notifications ? Regards, Nader. > On Feb 20, 2014, at 9:06 AM, Dolph Mathews wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] sphinxcontrib-pecanwsme 0.7 released

2014-02-20 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Hi Doug, 2014-02-20 17:37 GMT+01:00 Doug Hellmann : > sphinxcontrib-pecanwsme is an extension to Sphinx for documenting APIs > built with the Pecan web framework and WSME. > > What's New? > === > > - Remove the trailing slash from the end of the URLs, as it results in > misleading featur

Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] Lease by tenants feature design

2014-02-20 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Hi Christian, 2014-02-20 18:10 GMT+01:00 Martinez, Christian : > Hello all, > > I'm working in the following BP: > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/climate/+spec/tenant-reservation-concept, > in which the idea is to have the possibility to create "special" tenants > that have a lease for all of

Re: [openstack-dev] [savanna] renaming: initial voting

2014-02-20 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
I've contacted foundation and they are ready to verify 5 options, so, we'll choose them on todays irc team meeting (starting right now). On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 12:27 AM, Sergey Lukjanov wrote: > The voting is ended, you can ding results here - > http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?num

[openstack-dev] [python-openstacksdk] Meeting minutes, and Next Steps/new meeting time.

2014-02-20 Thread Jesse Noller
Hi Everyone; Our first python-openstack meeting was awesome: and I really want to thank everyone who came, and for Doug teaching me the meeting bot :) Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2014/python_openstacksdk.2014-02-19-19.01.html Minutes (text):http:

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][libvirt] Is there anything blocking the libvirt driver from implementing the host_maintenance_mode API?

2014-02-20 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 2/19/2014 4:05 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: The os-hosts OS API extension [1] showed up before I was working on the project and I see that only the VMware and XenAPI drivers implement it, but was wondering why the libvirt driver doesn't - either no one wants it, or there is some technical reaso

[openstack-dev] [qa] Re: [openstack-qa] Not Able to Run Tempest API Tests

2014-02-20 Thread David Kranz
On 02/20/2014 05:58 AM, om prakash pandey wrote: I am not able to run Tempest API tests. The typical ERROR I am getting is "Connection Timed Out". When checking into the logs I found out that tempest is trying to access the admin URL which is a private IP for our deployment. Now, Tempest is d

[openstack-dev] [Climate] Lease by tenants feature design

2014-02-20 Thread Martinez, Christian
Hello all, I'm working in the following BP: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/climate/+spec/tenant-reservation-concept, in which the idea is to have the possibility to create "special" tenants that have a lease for all of its associated resources. The BP is in discussing phase and we were having

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Notification When Creating/Deleting a Tenant in openstack

2014-02-20 Thread Dolph Mathews
Yes, see: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/event_notifications.html On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Nader Lahouti wrote: > Hi All, > > I have a question regarding creating/deleting a tenant in openstack (using > horizon or CLI). Is there any notification mechanism in place so tha

[openstack-dev] [keystone] Notification When Creating/Deleting a Tenant in openstack

2014-02-20 Thread Nader Lahouti
Hi All, I have a question regarding creating/deleting a tenant in openstack (using horizon or CLI). Is there any notification mechanism in place so that an application get informed of such an event? If not, can it be done using plugin to send create/delete notification to an application? Appreci

[openstack-dev] sphinxcontrib-pecanwsme 0.7 released

2014-02-20 Thread Doug Hellmann
sphinxcontrib-pecanwsme is an extension to Sphinx for documenting APIs built with the Pecan web framework and WSME. What's New? === - Remove the trailing slash from the end of the URLs, as it results in misleading feature documentation, see Ceilometer bug #1202744. _

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] v3 API in Icehouse

2014-02-20 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 15:24:22 + John Garbutt wrote: > > > Also micro and extension versioning is not the magic bullet which > > will get us out of trouble in the future. Especially with the core > > changes. Because even though versioning allows us to make changes, > > for similar reasons to n

[openstack-dev] git-review patch: Fix parsing of SCP-style URLs

2014-02-20 Thread Alexander Jones
Really don't want to have to resolve conflicts again or battle through making the test suite succeed... Please can someone merge this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72751/ https://bugs.launchpad.net/git-review/+bug/1279016 Thanks! Alexander Jones Double Negative R&D www.dneg.com

[openstack-dev] [Heat][Neutron] Refactoring heat LBaaS architecture according Neutron API

2014-02-20 Thread Sergey Kraynev
Hello community. I'd like to discuss feature of Neutron LBaaS in Heat. Currently Heat resources are not identical to Neutron's. There are four resources here: 'OS::Neutron::HealthMonitor' 'OS::Neutron::Pool' 'OS::Neutron::PoolMember' 'OS::Neutron::LoadBalancer' Acc

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][all] config sample tools on os x

2014-02-20 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Yup, current implementation depends on GNU getopt. Julien, cool, that means I'm not crazy :) About using common getopt functionally - at least long args will be removed to support non GNU getopt. Rewriting it on pure python will be more useful IMO. On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Julien Danjou

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] v3 API in Icehouse

2014-02-20 Thread John Garbutt
On 20 February 2014 14:55, Christopher Yeoh wrote: > On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 08:22:57 -0500 > Sean Dague wrote: >> >> We're also duplicating a lot of test and review energy in having 2 API >> stacks. Even before v3 has come out of experimental it's consumed a >> huge amount of review resource on both

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Dealing with passwords in Tuskar-API

2014-02-20 Thread Imre Farkas
On 02/20/2014 03:57 PM, Tomas Sedovic wrote: On 20/02/14 15:41, Radomir Dopieralski wrote: On 20/02/14 15:00, Tomas Sedovic wrote: Are we even sure we need to store the passwords in the first place? All this encryption talk seems very premature to me. How are you going to redeploy without th

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Dealing with passwords in Tuskar-API

2014-02-20 Thread Tomas Sedovic
On 20/02/14 16:02, Radomir Dopieralski wrote: > On 20/02/14 15:57, Tomas Sedovic wrote: >> On 20/02/14 15:41, Radomir Dopieralski wrote: >>> On 20/02/14 15:00, Tomas Sedovic wrote: >>> Are we even sure we need to store the passwords in the first place? All this encryption talk seems very

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] v3 API in Icehouse

2014-02-20 Thread Sean Dague
On 02/20/2014 09:55 AM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: > On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 08:22:57 -0500 > Sean Dague wrote: >> >> We're also duplicating a lot of test and review energy in having 2 API >> stacks. Even before v3 has come out of experimental it's consumed a >> huge amount of review resource on both the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder]Do you think volume force delete operation should not apply to the volume being used?

2014-02-20 Thread yunling
From cinder code, we know that volume delete operation could be classify into three categories; 1. General delelte: delete volumes that are in the status of available, error, error_restoring, error_extending. 2. Force delete: delete volumes that are in the status of extending, attaching, deta

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Dealing with passwords in Tuskar-API

2014-02-20 Thread Radomir Dopieralski
On 20/02/14 15:57, Tomas Sedovic wrote: > On 20/02/14 15:41, Radomir Dopieralski wrote: >> On 20/02/14 15:00, Tomas Sedovic wrote: >> >>> Are we even sure we need to store the passwords in the first place? All >>> this encryption talk seems very premature to me. >> >> How are you going to redeploy

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Dealing with passwords in Tuskar-API

2014-02-20 Thread Tomas Sedovic
On 20/02/14 15:41, Radomir Dopieralski wrote: > On 20/02/14 15:00, Tomas Sedovic wrote: > >> Are we even sure we need to store the passwords in the first place? All >> this encryption talk seems very premature to me. > > How are you going to redeploy without them? > What do you mean by redeploy

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] v3 API in Icehouse

2014-02-20 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 08:22:57 -0500 Sean Dague wrote: > > We're also duplicating a lot of test and review energy in having 2 API > stacks. Even before v3 has come out of experimental it's consumed a > huge amount of review resource on both the Nova and Tempest sides to > get it to it's current sta

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Nominate Oleg Bondarev for Core

2014-02-20 Thread Oleg Bondarev
Thanks Mark, thanks everyone for voiting! I'm so happy to become a member of this really great team! Oleg On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Mark McClain wrote: > I'd like to welcome Oleg as member of the core Neutron team as he has > received more than enough +1s and no negative votes from the

[openstack-dev] [Nova] blueprint: Nova with py33 compatibility

2014-02-20 Thread 郭小熙
We will move to Python33 in the future. More and more OpenStack projects including python-novaclient are Python33 compatible. Do we have plan to make Nova python33 compatible ? As I know, oslo.messaging will not support python33 in Icehouse,this is just one dependency for Nova, that means we can't

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Ensure that configured gateway is on subnet by default

2014-02-20 Thread Édouard Thuleau
Ha yes, I completely forget IPv6 case. Sorry and forget that thread. Édouard. On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Veiga, Anthony < anthony_ve...@cable.comcast.com> wrote: > This would break IPv6. The gateway address, according to RFC 4861[1] > Section 4.2 regarding Router Advertisements: "Source

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Dealing with passwords in Tuskar-API

2014-02-20 Thread Radomir Dopieralski
On 20/02/14 15:00, Tomas Sedovic wrote: > Are we even sure we need to store the passwords in the first place? All > this encryption talk seems very premature to me. How are you going to redeploy without them? -- Radomir Dopieralski ___ OpenStack-dev m

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Ensure that configured gateway is on subnet by default

2014-02-20 Thread Veiga, Anthony
This would break IPv6. The gateway address, according to RFC 4861[1] Section 4.2 regarding Router Advertisements: "Source Address MUST be the link-local address assigned to the interface from which this message is sent". This means that if you configure a subnet with a Globally Unique Address

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Nominate Oleg Bondarev for Core

2014-02-20 Thread Mark McClain
I’d like to welcome Oleg as member of the core Neutron team as he has received more than enough +1s and no negative votes from the other cores. mark On Feb 10, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Mark McClain wrote: > All- > > I’d like to nominate Oleg Bondarev to become a Neutron core reviewer. Oleg > has

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Ensure that configured gateway is on subnet by default

2014-02-20 Thread Édouard Thuleau
Looking back, perhaps we should remove that flag and only authorize the admin user to be able to set the gateway IP outside of the subnet cidr (for tricky network), like only admin user can create provider network. And require classic users to set gatway IP inside the subnet cidr. Édouard. On Th

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Dealing with passwords in Tuskar-API

2014-02-20 Thread Tomas Sedovic
On 20/02/14 14:47, Radomir Dopieralski wrote: > On 20/02/14 14:10, Jiří Stránský wrote: >> On 20.2.2014 12:18, Radomir Dopieralski wrote: > >>> Thinking about it some more, all the uses of the passwords come as a >>> result of an action initiated by the user either by tuskar-ui, or by >>> the tusk

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] v3 API in Icehouse

2014-02-20 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 2/20/2014 7:22 AM, Sean Dague wrote: I agree that we shouldn't be rushing something that's not ready, but I guess it raises kind of a meta issue. When we started this journey this was because v2 has a ton of warts, is completely wonky on the code internals, which leads to plenty of bugs. v3

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] [TripleO] [Tuskar] Thoughts on editing node profiles (aka flavors in Tuskar UI)

2014-02-20 Thread Tzu-Mainn Chen
Multiple flavors, but a single flavor per role, correct? Mainn - Original Message - > I think we still are going to multiple flavors for I, e.g.: > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74762/ > On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 08:50 -0500, Jay Dobies wrote: > > > > On 02/20/2014 06:40 AM, Dmitry Tantsu

[openstack-dev] [neutron] Ensure that configured gateway is on subnet by default

2014-02-20 Thread Édouard Thuleau
Hi, Neutron permits to set a gateway IP outside of the subnet cidr by default. And, thanks to the garyk's patch [1], it's possible to change this default behavior with config flag 'force_gateway_on_subnet'. This flag was added to keep the backward compatibility for people who need to set the gate

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] when icehouse will be frozen

2014-02-20 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo
Ok My previous answer was actually about the Feature proposal freeze which happened two days ago. Cheers, Miguel Ángel. On 02/20/2014 11:27 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: 马煜 wrote: who know when to freezy icehouse version ? my bp on ml2 driver has been approved, code is under review, but I have s

[openstack-dev] [murano] [horizon] Reverse order of settings modules inclusion

2014-02-20 Thread Timur Sufiev
Hello! In Murano's dashboard we have around 20 parameters that should be changed or added to DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE. Currently all these parameters are embedded into openstack_dashboard.settings during install with sed and tools alike (and removed during uninstall). Recently more clean and elegan

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] v3 API in Icehouse

2014-02-20 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 2/19/2014 12:26 PM, Chris Behrens wrote: +1. I'd like to leave it experimental as well. I think the task work is important to the future of nova-api and I'd like to make sure we're not rushing anything. We're going to need to live with old API versions for a long time, so it's important t

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] [TripleO] [Tuskar] Thoughts on editing node profiles (aka flavors in Tuskar UI)

2014-02-20 Thread Dmitry Tantsur
I think we still are going to multiple flavors for I, e.g.: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74762/ On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 08:50 -0500, Jay Dobies wrote: > > On 02/20/2014 06:40 AM, Dmitry Tantsur wrote: > > Hi. > > > > While implementing CRUD operations for node profiles in Tuskar (which > > are e

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Dealing with passwords in Tuskar-API

2014-02-20 Thread Jay Dobies
Just to throw this out there, is this something we need for Icehouse? Yes, I fully acknowledge that it's an ugly security hole. But what's our story for how stable/clean Tuskar will be for Icehouse? I don't believe the intention is for people to use this in a production environment yet, so it

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] v3 API in Icehouse

2014-02-20 Thread Alex Xu
On 2014年02月20日 10:44, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:36:46 -0500 Russell Bryant wrote: Greetings, The v3 API effort has been going for a few release cycles now. As we approach the Icehouse release, we are faced with the following question: "Is it time to mark v3 stable?" My

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] [TripleO] [Tuskar] Thoughts on editing node profiles (aka flavors in Tuskar UI)

2014-02-20 Thread Jay Dobies
On 02/20/2014 06:40 AM, Dmitry Tantsur wrote: Hi. While implementing CRUD operations for node profiles in Tuskar (which are essentially Nova flavors renamed) I encountered editing of flavors and I have some doubts about it. Editing of nova flavors in Horizon is implemented as deleting-then-cr

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Dealing with passwords in Tuskar-API

2014-02-20 Thread Radomir Dopieralski
On 20/02/14 14:10, Jiří Stránský wrote: > On 20.2.2014 12:18, Radomir Dopieralski wrote: >> Thinking about it some more, all the uses of the passwords come as a >> result of an action initiated by the user either by tuskar-ui, or by >> the tuskar command-line client. So maybe we could put the key

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Dealing with passwords in Tuskar-API

2014-02-20 Thread Tomas Sedovic
On 20/02/14 14:10, Jiří Stránský wrote: > On 20.2.2014 12:18, Radomir Dopieralski wrote: >> On 20/02/14 12:02, Radomir Dopieralski wrote: >>> Anybody who gets access to Tuskar-API gets the >>> passwords, whether we encrypt them or not. Anybody who doesn't have >>> access to Tuskar-API doesn't get t

Re: [openstack-dev] Hierarchicical Multitenancy Discussion

2014-02-20 Thread John Dennis
On 02/19/2014 08:58 PM, Adam Young wrote: >> Can you give more detail here? I can see arguments for both ways of >> doing this but continuing to use ids for ownership is an easier >> choice. Here is my thinking: >> >> 1. all of the projects use ids for ownership currently so it is a >> smaller chan

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] [TripleO] Better handling of lists in Heat - a proposal to add a map function

2014-02-20 Thread Tomas Sedovic
On 19/02/14 08:48, Clint Byrum wrote: > Since picking up Heat and trying to think about how to express clusters > of things, I've been troubled by how poorly the CFN language supports > using lists. There has always been the Fn::Select function for > dereferencing arrays and maps, and recently we a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] v3 API in Icehouse

2014-02-20 Thread Sean Dague
I agree that we shouldn't be rushing something that's not ready, but I guess it raises kind of a meta issue. When we started this journey this was because v2 has a ton of warts, is completely wonky on the code internals, which leads to plenty of bugs. v3 was both a surface clean up, but it was als

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Dealing with passwords in Tuskar-API

2014-02-20 Thread Tomas Sedovic
On 20/02/14 10:12, Radomir Dopieralski wrote: > On 19/02/14 18:29, Dougal Matthews wrote: >> The question for me, is what passwords will we have and when do we need >> them? Are any of the passwords required long term. > > We will need whatever the Heat template needs to generate all the > configu

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Dealing with passwords in Tuskar-API

2014-02-20 Thread Jiří Stránský
On 20.2.2014 12:18, Radomir Dopieralski wrote: On 20/02/14 12:02, Radomir Dopieralski wrote: Anybody who gets access to Tuskar-API gets the passwords, whether we encrypt them or not. Anybody who doesn't have access to Tuskar-API doesn't get the passwords, whether we encrypt them or not. Yeah,

Re: [openstack-dev] [solum] async / threading for python 2 and 3

2014-02-20 Thread victor stinner
Hi, > On 19/02/14 10:09 +0100, Julien Danjou wrote: > >On Wed, Feb 19 2014, Angus Salkeld wrote: > > > >> 2) use tulip and give up python 2 > > > >+ use trollius to have Python 2 support. > > > > https://pypi.python.org/pypi/trollius > > So I have been giving this a go. FYI I'm the author of Tr

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-dev][HEAT][Windows] Does HEAT support provisioning windows cluster

2014-02-20 Thread Jay Lau
Thanks Alexander for the detail explanation, really very helpful! What I meant for a windows cluster is actually a windows application, such as a WebSphere cluster or a hadoop windows cluster. Seems I can use Cloudbase Init to do the post-deploy actions on windows, but I cannot do some scale up o

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron]Do you think tanent_id should be verified

2014-02-20 Thread Dong Liu
Dolph, thanks for the information you provided. Now I have two question: 1. Will neutron handle this event notification in the future? 2. I also wish neutron could verify that tenant_id is existent. thanks 于 2014-02-20 4:33, Dolph Mathews 写道: There's an open bug [1] against nova & neutron to h

Re: [openstack-dev] [swift]stable/havana Jenkins failed

2014-02-20 Thread Dong Liu
Thank you Alan and Pete, I will wait for devstack-gate core approve patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74451/ 2014-02-20 17:14, Alan Pevec : I notice that we have changed "from swiftclient import Connection, HTTPException" to "from swiftclient import Connection, RequestException" at 2014-02

[openstack-dev] [Horizon] [TripleO] [Tuskar] Thoughts on editing node profiles (aka flavors in Tuskar UI)

2014-02-20 Thread Dmitry Tantsur
Hi. While implementing CRUD operations for node profiles in Tuskar (which are essentially Nova flavors renamed) I encountered editing of flavors and I have some doubts about it. Editing of nova flavors in Horizon is implemented as deleting-then-creating with a _new_ flavor ID. For us it essential

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