Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Automatic evacuate

2014-10-14 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 14/10/2014 01:46, Adam Lawson a écrit : /I think Adam is talking about this bp: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/evacuate-instance-automatically/ Correct - yes. Sorry about that. ; ) So it would seem the question is not whether to support auto-evac but how it should

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][IPv6] Neighbor Discovery for HA

2014-10-14 Thread Xu Han Peng
I was reminded that scapy is under GPLv2 license so we cannot make it as the dependency of Neutron. There are also some IPv6 utilities from ryu.lib.packet which can be leveraged to send out neighbor advertisement. Is it OK to make ryu as a dependency and make this as a binary and call it from

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Propose adding Igor K. to core reviewers for fuel-web projects

2014-10-14 Thread Aleksey Kasatkin
+1 Aleksey Kasatkin Hi everyone! I would like to propose Igor Kalnitsky as a core reviewer on the Fuel-web team. Igor has been working on openstack patching, nailgun, fuel upgrade and provided a lot of good reviews [1]. In addition he's also very active in IRC and mailing list. Can the

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-14 Thread Thierry Carrez
Jay Pipes wrote: On 10/13/2014 07:11 PM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: I guess we could also start fleshing out in the repo how we'll work in practice too (eg once the document is stable what process do we have for making changes - two +2's is probably not adequate for something like this). We

[openstack-dev] [horizon]Blueprint- showing a small message to the user for browser incompatibility

2014-10-14 Thread Aggarwal, Nikunj
Hi Everyone, I have submitted a blueprint which targets the issues end-users are faces when they are using Horizon in the old browsers. So, this blueprint targets to overcome this problem by showing a small message on the Horizon login page. I urge to all the Horizon community to take a look

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] Strategy for testing and merging the merge.py-free templates

2014-10-14 Thread Tomas Sedovic
Hi everyone, As outlined in the Remove merge.py[1] spec, Peter Belanyi and I have built the templates for controller, nova compute, swift and cinder nodes that can be deploying directly to Heat (i.e. no merge.py pass is necessary). The patches: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123100/

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][policy][keystone] Better Policy Model and Representing Capabilites

2014-10-14 Thread David Chadwick
On 14/10/2014 01:25, Nathan Kinder wrote: On 10/13/2014 01:17 PM, Morgan Fainberg wrote: Description of the problem: Without attempting an action on an endpoint with a current scoped token, it is impossible to know what actions are available to a user. This is not unusual in the

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-14 Thread Alex Xu
On 2014年10月14日 12:52, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 22:20:32 -0400 Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/13/2014 07:11 PM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 10:52:26 -0400 Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/10/2014 02:05 AM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: I

Re: [openstack-dev] [bashate] towards inbox zero on bashate changes, release?

2014-10-14 Thread Christian Berendt
On 10/14/2014 07:03 AM, Ian Wienand wrote: 1) changes for auto-detection. IMO, we should drop all these and just leave bashate as taking a list of files to check, and let test-harnesses fix it. Everyone using it at the moment seems fine without them I am fine with this and

[openstack-dev] [neutron] Private external network

2014-10-14 Thread Édouard Thuleau
Hi Salvatore, I like to propose a blueprint for the next Neutron release that permits to dedicated an external network to a tenant. For that I though to rethink the he conjunction of the two attributes `shared` and `router:external' of the network resource. I saw that you already initiate a work

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Proposing Bogdan Dobrelia and Sergii Golovatiuk as core-reviewers for Fuel Library project

2014-10-14 Thread Tomasz Napierala
On 10 Oct 2014, at 11:35, Vladimir Kuklin vkuk...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi, Fuelers As you may have noticed our project is growing continuously. And this imposes a requirement of increasing amount of core reviewers. I would like to propose Bogdan Dobrelia(bogdando) and Sergii

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Strategy for testing and merging the merge.py-free templates

2014-10-14 Thread Steven Hardy
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:55:30AM +0200, Tomas Sedovic wrote: Hi everyone, As outlined in the Remove merge.py[1] spec, Peter Belanyi and I have built the templates for controller, nova compute, swift and cinder nodes that can be deploying directly to Heat (i.e. no merge.py pass is

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] on Dockerfile patterns

2014-10-14 Thread Chris Dent
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014, Angus Lees wrote: 2. I think we should separate out run the server from do once-off setup. Yes! Otherwise it feels like the entire point of using containers and dockerfiles is rather lost. -- Chris Dent tw:@anticdent freenode:cdent https://tank.peermore.com/tanks/cdent

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Proposing Bogdan Dobrelia and Sergii Golovatiuk as core-reviewers for Fuel Library project

2014-10-14 Thread Mike Scherbakov
Thanks all. Bogdan, Sergii - you were given +2 rights. To merge the patch, you should do +2 and +1 Approved in gerrit. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Tomasz Napierala tnapier...@mirantis.com wrote: On 10 Oct 2014, at 11:35, Vladimir Kuklin vkuk...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi, Fuelers As you

[openstack-dev] Fwd: console.log grows indefinitely issue

2014-10-14 Thread Yaguang Tang
Forward to dev list for more discussion -- Forwarded message -- From: Yaguang Tang heut2...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 10:32 AM Subject: console.log grows indefinitely issue To: openst...@lists.openstack.org openst...@lists.openstack.org Hi all, Here is a known issue

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Strategy for testing and merging the merge.py-free templates

2014-10-14 Thread Tomas Sedovic
On 10/14/2014 12:43 PM, Steven Hardy wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:55:30AM +0200, Tomas Sedovic wrote: Hi everyone, As outlined in the Remove merge.py[1] spec, Peter Belanyi and I have built the templates for controller, nova compute, swift and cinder nodes that can be deploying directly

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] allow-mac-to-be-updated

2014-10-14 Thread Gary Kotton
Hi, I am really in favor of this. The implementation looks great! Nova can surely benefit from this and we can make Neutron allocations at the API level and save a ton of complexity at the compute level. Kudos! Thanks Gary On 10/13/14, 11:31 PM, Chuck Carlino chuckjcarl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi,

[openstack-dev] [oslo] providing liaisons to the other cross-project teams

2014-10-14 Thread Doug Hellmann
The QA and Documentation teams have adopted a liaison program similar to what we did for Oslo during Juno. That means we need to provide someone from our team to work with each of their teams. If you would like to volunteer for one of the positions, put your name in the appropriate table on the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Proposing Bogdan Dobrelia and Sergii Golovatiuk as core-reviewers for Fuel Library project

2014-10-14 Thread Sergii Golovatiuk
Hi crew, Thank you very much to all of you. It's a honor to be Core in fuel-library. -- Best regards, Sergii Golovatiuk, Skype #golserge IRC #holser On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Mike Scherbakov mscherba...@mirantis.com wrote: Thanks all. Bogdan, Sergii - you were given +2 rights. To

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Strategy for testing and merging the merge.py-free templates

2014-10-14 Thread Jay Dobies
On 10/14/2014 04:55 AM, Tomas Sedovic wrote: Hi everyone, As outlined in the Remove merge.py[1] spec, Peter Belanyi and I have built the templates for controller, nova compute, swift and cinder nodes that can be deploying directly to Heat (i.e. no merge.py pass is necessary). The patches:

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-14 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/14/2014 12:52 AM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 22:20:32 -0400 Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/13/2014 07:11 PM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 10:52:26 -0400 Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/10/2014 02:05 AM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: I

Re: [openstack-dev] Starting iSCSI initiator service iscsid failed while installing Devstack

2014-10-14 Thread Jesse Cook
Maybe this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/open-iscsi/+bug/306693 Might want to manually fix runlevels to be 0 and 6 (not 1) using update-rc.d. You can look at the LSB headers (comments at top of init script) in /etc. On 10/11/14, 12:58 PM, Nitika

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-14 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/14/2014 05:04 AM, Alex Xu wrote: There is one reason to think about what projects *currently* do. When we choice which convention we want. For example, the CamelCase and snake_case, if the most project use snake_case, then choice snake_case style will be the right. I would posit that the

[openstack-dev] Hyper-V meeting

2014-10-14 Thread Peter Pouliot
Hi All, Some of us are travelling this week so we'll need to cancel the hyper-v meeting for today. We will resume next week at the usual time. p Peter J. Pouliot CISSP Sr. SDET OpenStack Microsoft New England Research Development Center 1 Memorial Drive Cambridge, MA 02142 P: 1.(857).4536436

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][policy][keystone] Better Policy Model and Representing Capabilites

2014-10-14 Thread Tim Hinrichs
First, some truth in advertising: I work on Congress (policy as a service), so I’ve mostly given thought to this problem in that context. 1) I agree with the discussion below about creating a token that encodes all the permitted actions for the user. The cons seem substantial. (i) The token

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] on Dockerfile patterns

2014-10-14 Thread Lars Kellogg-Stedman
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 02:51:15PM +1100, Angus Lees wrote: 1. It would be good if the interesting code came from python sdist/bdists rather than rpms. I agree in principal, although starting from packages right now lets us ignore a whole host of issues. Possibly we'll hit that change down

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] on Dockerfile patterns

2014-10-14 Thread Steven Dake
Angus, On 10/13/2014 08:51 PM, Angus Lees wrote: I've been reading a bunch of the existing Dockerfiles, and I have two humble requests: 1. It would be good if the interesting code came from python sdist/bdists rather than rpms. This will make it possible to rebuild the containers using code

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-14 Thread Everett Toews
On Oct 14, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: I personally think proposing patches to an openstack-api repository is the most effective way to make those proposals. Etherpads and wiki pages are fine for dumping content, but IMO, we don't need to dump content -- we already

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-14 Thread Lance Bragstad
I found a couple of free times available for a weekly meeting if people are interested: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128332/2 Not sure if a meeting time has been hashed out already or not, and if it has I'll change the patch accordingly. If not, we can iterate on possible meeting times in

[openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Juno RC3 available

2014-10-14 Thread Thierry Carrez
Hello everyone, Due to two last-minute issues discovered in testing the published Ceilometer 2014.2 RC2, we generated a new Juno release candidate. You can find the list of bugfixes in this RC and a link to a source tarball at: https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/juno/juno-rc3 At this point, only

[openstack-dev] Travels tips for the Paris summit

2014-10-14 Thread Adrien Cunin
Hi everyone, Inspired by the travels tips published for the HK summit, the French OpenStack user group wrote a similar wiki page for Paris: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Kilo/Travel_Tips Also note that if you want some local informations or want to talk about user groups during

[openstack-dev] [kolla] Heat templates for kubernetes + docker

2014-10-14 Thread Lars Kellogg-Stedman
This came up briefly on the meeting yesterday, but I wanted to bring it to a wider audience. I know some folks out there are using the Heat templates I put together for setting up a simple kubernetes environment. I have recently added support for the Gluster shared filesystem; you'll find it in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS][Octavia] Floating IP management

2014-10-14 Thread Susanne Balle
Nice diagrams. :-) Thanks. Susanne On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Phillip Toohill phillip.tooh...@rackspace.com wrote: Diagrams in jpeg format.. On 10/12/14 10:06 PM, Phillip Toohill phillip.tooh...@rackspace.com wrote: Hello all, Heres some additional diagrams and docs. Not

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] on Dockerfile patterns

2014-10-14 Thread Fox, Kevin M
Absolutely this needs splitting out. I ran into an issue a few years ago with this antipattern with the mythtv folks. The myth client on my laptop got upgraded and it was overly helpful in that it connected directly to the database and upgraded the schema for me, breaking the server, and all

[openstack-dev] [devstack] Question about the OVS_PHYSICAL_BRIDGE attribute defined in localrc

2014-10-14 Thread Danny Choi (dannchoi)
Hi, When I have OVS_PHYSICAL_BRIDGE=br-p1p1” defined in localrc, devstack creates the OVS bridge br-p1p1. localadmin@qa4:~/devstack$ sudo ovs-vsctl show 5f845d2e-9647-47f2-b92d-139f6faaf39e Bridge br-p1p1 Port phy-br-p1p1 Interface phy-br-p1p1 type:

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon]Blueprint- showing a small message to the user for browser incompatibility

2014-10-14 Thread Solly Ross
I'm not sure User Agent detection is the best way to go. Suppose you do UA sniffing and say show the message unless the UA is one of X. Then, if there's a browser which fully supports your feature set, but doesn't have a known UA (or someone set a custom UA on their browser), the message will

Re: [openstack-dev] Travels tips for the Paris summit

2014-10-14 Thread Anita Kuno
On 10/14/2014 11:35 AM, Adrien Cunin wrote: Hi everyone, Inspired by the travels tips published for the HK summit, the French OpenStack user group wrote a similar wiki page for Paris: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Kilo/Travel_Tips Also note that if you want some local

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-14 Thread Ian Cordasco
On 10/14/14, 10:22 AM, Everett Toews everett.to...@rackspace.com wrote: On Oct 14, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: I personally think proposing patches to an openstack-api repository is the most effective way to make those proposals. Etherpads and wiki pages are fine for

Re: [openstack-dev] Quota management and enforcement across projects

2014-10-14 Thread Salvatore Orlando
Hi Doug, do you know if the existing quota oslo-incubator module has already some active consumers? In the meanwhile I've pushed a spec to neutron-specs for improving quota management there [1] Now, I can either work on the oslo-incubator module and leverage it in Neutron, or develop the quota

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon]Blueprint- showing a small message to the user for browser incompatibility

2014-10-14 Thread Aggarwal, Nikunj
Hi Solly, You are right with your questions about user setting custom UA on their browser. And during my discussion with other Horizon community members on IRC, we decided that Horizon should not care about user setting custom UA on for their browser because it is not our job to identify that

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] on Dockerfile patterns

2014-10-14 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/14/2014 10:49 AM, Lars Kellogg-Stedman wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 02:51:15PM +1100, Angus Lees wrote: 1. It would be good if the interesting code came from python sdist/bdists rather than rpms. I agree in principal, although starting from packages right now lets us ignore a whole

Re: [openstack-dev] Travels tips for the Paris summit

2014-10-14 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 14/10/2014 18:29, Anita Kuno a écrit : On 10/14/2014 11:35 AM, Adrien Cunin wrote: Hi everyone, Inspired by the travels tips published for the HK summit, the French OpenStack user group wrote a similar wiki page for Paris: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Kilo/Travel_Tips Also note

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-14 Thread Ed Leafe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/14/2014 10:22 AM, Everett Toews wrote: I personally think proposing patches to an openstack-api repository is the most effective way to make those proposals. Etherpads and wiki pages are fine for dumping content, but IMO, we don't need to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Automatic evacuate

2014-10-14 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/13/2014 05:59 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: Nice timing. I was working on a blog post on this topic. On 10/13/2014 05:40 PM, Fei Long Wang wrote: I think Adam is talking about this bp: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/evacuate-instance-automatically For now, we're using Nagios

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Private external network

2014-10-14 Thread Salvatore Orlando
The blueprint was untargeted mostly because the analysis indicated that there was no easy solution, and that what we needed was a solution to do some RBAC on neutron resources. I think this would be a good addition to the Neutron resource model, and it would be great if you could start the

Re: [openstack-dev] Travels tips for the Paris summit

2014-10-14 Thread Anita Kuno
On 10/14/2014 12:40 PM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: Le 14/10/2014 18:29, Anita Kuno a écrit : On 10/14/2014 11:35 AM, Adrien Cunin wrote: Hi everyone, Inspired by the travels tips published for the HK summit, the French OpenStack user group wrote a similar wiki page for Paris:

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][policy][keystone] Better Policy Model and Representing Capabilites

2014-10-14 Thread Nathan Kinder
On 10/14/2014 07:42 AM, Tim Hinrichs wrote: First, some truth in advertising: I work on Congress (policy as a service), so I’ve mostly given thought to this problem in that context. 1) I agree with the discussion below about creating a token that encodes all the permitted actions for the

[openstack-dev] [Heat] image requirements for Heat software config

2014-10-14 Thread Thomas Spatzier
Hi all, I have been experimenting a lot with Heat software config to check out what works today, and to think about potential next steps. I've also worked on an internal project where we are leveraging software config as of the Icehouse release. I think what we can do now from a user's

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon] Packaging Sinon.JS as xstatic

2014-10-14 Thread Timur Sufiev
Adding yesterday discussion of JS libs for unit-testing in #openstack-horizon: http://paste2.org/B9xN1yI4 On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Timur Sufiev tsuf...@mirantis.com wrote: Hello folks! Discussing the proposed Sinon.js dependency to Horizon on the last meeting has brought quite an

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Strategy for testing and merging the merge.py-free templates

2014-10-14 Thread Steven Hardy
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 01:27:20PM +0200, Tomas Sedovic wrote: On 10/14/2014 12:43 PM, Steven Hardy wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:55:30AM +0200, Tomas Sedovic wrote: Hi everyone, As outlined in the Remove merge.py[1] spec, Peter Belanyi and I have built the templates for controller,

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] on Dockerfile patterns

2014-10-14 Thread Lars Kellogg-Stedman
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 12:33:42PM -0400, Jay Pipes wrote: Can I use your Dockerfiles to build Ubuntu/Debian images instead of only Fedora images? Not easily, no. Seems to me that the image-based Docker system makes the resulting container quite brittle -- since a) you can't use

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][policy][keystone] Better Policy Model and Representing Capabilites

2014-10-14 Thread Morgan Fainberg
On Tuesday, October 14, 2014, Nathan Kinder nkin...@redhat.com wrote: On 10/14/2014 07:42 AM, Tim Hinrichs wrote: First, some truth in advertising: I work on Congress (policy as a service), so I’ve mostly given thought to this problem in that context. 1) I agree with the discussion

[openstack-dev] [Group-based Policy] Review of patches

2014-10-14 Thread Sumit Naiksatam
Hi, We are meeting in the #openstack-gbp channel today (10/14) 18.00 UTC to jointly review some of the pending patches: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/group-based-policy+branch:master,n,z Please join if you would like to provide feedback. Thanks, ~Sumit.

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Strategy for testing and merging the merge.py-free templates

2014-10-14 Thread Gregory Haynes
Excerpts from Tomas Sedovic's message of 2014-10-14 08:55:30 +: James Slagle proposed something like this when I talked to him on IRC: 1. teach devtest about the new templates, driven by a OVERCLOUD_USE_MERGE_PY switch (defaulting to the merge.py-based templates) 2. Do a CI run of the

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Private external network

2014-10-14 Thread A, Keshava
Hi, Across these private External network/tenant :: floating IP can be shared ? Keshava From: Salvatore Orlando [mailto:sorla...@nicira.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:33 PM To: Édouard Thuleau Cc: OpenStack Development Mailing List Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Private

[openstack-dev] [qa] Cannot start the VM console when VM is launched at Compute node

2014-10-14 Thread Danny Choi (dannchoi)
Hi, I used devstack to deploy multi-node OpenStack, with Controller + nova-compute + Network on one physical node (qa4), and Compute on a separate physical node (qa5). When I launch a VM which spun up on the Compute node (qa5), I cannot launch the VM console, in both CLI and Horizon.

Re: [openstack-dev] 2 Minute tokens

2014-10-14 Thread Adam Young
On 10/13/2014 06:21 PM, Preston L. Bannister wrote: Too-short token expiration times are one of my concerns, in my current exercise. Working on a replacement for Nova backup. Basically creating backups jobs, writing the jobs into a queue, with a background worker that reads jobs from the

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon]Blueprint- showing a small message to the user for browser incompatibility

2014-10-14 Thread Solly Ross
Sure, feel free to put my response in the Blueprint page. Thanks for the quick answer. Best Regards, Solly Ross - Original Message - From: Nikunj Aggarwal nikunj.aggar...@hp.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Cc:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] image requirements for Heat software config

2014-10-14 Thread Ryan Brown
inline responses On 10/14/2014 01:13 PM, Thomas Spatzier wrote: Hi all, I have been experimenting a lot with Heat software config to check out what works today, and to think about potential next steps. I've also worked on an internal project where we are leveraging software config as of

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] on Dockerfile patterns

2014-10-14 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/14/2014 01:28 PM, Lars Kellogg-Stedman wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 12:33:42PM -0400, Jay Pipes wrote: Can I use your Dockerfiles to build Ubuntu/Debian images instead of only Fedora images? Not easily, no. Seems to me that the image-based Docker system makes the resulting container

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][policy][keystone] Better Policy Model and Representing Capabilites

2014-10-14 Thread Tim Hinrichs
That was really helpful background. Thanks! I’d be happy to look into using Congress to implement what we’ve discussed: caching policy.json files, updating them periodically, and answering queries about the roles required to be granted access to a certain kind of action. I think we have the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Automatic evacuate

2014-10-14 Thread Tim Bell
-Original Message- From: Jay Pipes [mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com] Sent: 14 October 2014 19:01 To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Automatic evacuate On 10/13/2014 05:59 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: Nice timing. I was working on a blog post on this

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Cinder/Neutron plugins on UI

2014-10-14 Thread Mike Scherbakov
+1 for doing now: we are going to implement something really simple, like updating plugin attributes directly via api. Then we can have discussions in parallel how we plan to evolve it. Please confirm that we went this path. Thanks, On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Evgeniy L e...@mirantis.com

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Automatic evacuate

2014-10-14 Thread Russell Bryant
On 10/14/2014 01:01 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: 2) Looking forward, there is a lot of demand for doing this on a per instance basis. We should decide on a best practice for allowing end users to indicate whether they would like their VMs automatically rescued by the infrastructure, or just left down

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Automatic evacuate

2014-10-14 Thread Mathieu Gagné
On 2014-10-14 2:49 PM, Tim Bell wrote: Nova is also not the right place to do the generic solution as many other parts could be involved... neutron and cinder come to mind. Nova needs to provide the basic functions but it needs something outside to make it all happen transparently. I would

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] on Dockerfile patterns

2014-10-14 Thread Lars Kellogg-Stedman
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 02:45:30PM -0400, Jay Pipes wrote: With Docker, you are limited to the operating system of whatever the image uses. See, that's the part I disagree with. What I was saying about ansible and puppet in my email is that I think the right thing to do is take advantage of

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][policy][keystone] Better Policy Model and Representing Capabilites

2014-10-14 Thread Adam Young
There are two distinct permissions to be managed: 1. What can the user do. 2. What actions can this token be used to do. 2. is a subset of 1. Just because I, Adam Young, have the ability to destroy the golden image I have up on glance does not mean that I want to delegate that ability

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] on Dockerfile patterns

2014-10-14 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/14/2014 03:10 PM, Lars Kellogg-Stedman wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 02:45:30PM -0400, Jay Pipes wrote: With Docker, you are limited to the operating system of whatever the image uses. See, that's the part I disagree with. What I was saying about ansible and puppet in my email is that

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] on Dockerfile patterns

2014-10-14 Thread Chris Dent
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014, Jay Pipes wrote: This means you now have to know the system administrative comments and setup for two operating systems ... or go find a Fedora20 image for mysql somewhere. For sake of conversation and devil's advocacy let me ask, in response to this paragraph, why [do

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] on Dockerfile patterns

2014-10-14 Thread Fox, Kevin M
Same thing works with cloud init too... I've been waiting on systemd working inside a container for a while. it seems to work now. The idea being its hard to write a shell script to get everything up and running with all the interactions that may need to happen. The init system's already

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] on Dockerfile patterns

2014-10-14 Thread Lars Kellogg-Stedman
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 03:25:56PM -0400, Jay Pipes wrote: I think the above strategy is spot on. Unfortunately, that's not how the Docker ecosystem works. I'm not sure I agree here, but again nobody is forcing you to use this tool. operating system that the image is built for. I see you

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] on Dockerfile patterns

2014-10-14 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/14/2014 03:50 PM, Lars Kellogg-Stedman wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 03:25:56PM -0400, Jay Pipes wrote: I think the above strategy is spot on. Unfortunately, that's not how the Docker ecosystem works. I'm not sure I agree here, but again nobody is forcing you to use this tool. I know

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] on Dockerfile patterns

2014-10-14 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Lars Kellogg-Stedman's message of 2014-10-14 12:50:48 -0700: On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 03:25:56PM -0400, Jay Pipes wrote: I think the above strategy is spot on. Unfortunately, that's not how the Docker ecosystem works. I'm not sure I agree here, but again nobody is forcing you

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] on Dockerfile patterns

2014-10-14 Thread Lars Kellogg-Stedman
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 04:06:22PM -0400, Jay Pipes wrote: I understand that general feeling, but system administration tasks like debugging networking issues or determining and grepping log file locations or diagnosing packaging issues for OpenStack services or performing database logfile

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Juno RC3 available

2014-10-14 Thread Thierry Carrez
Hello everyone, Due to two issues discovered in testing of the published Neutron 2014.2 RC2, we generated a new Juno release candidate. You can find the list of bugfixes in this RC and a link to a source tarball at: https://launchpad.net/neutron/juno/juno-rc3 At this point, only show-stoppers

Re: [openstack-dev] [Infra] Meeting Tuesday October 14th at 19:00 UTC

2014-10-14 Thread Elizabeth K. Joseph
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Elizabeth K. Joseph l...@princessleia.com wrote: The OpenStack Infrastructure (Infra) team is hosting our weekly meeting on Tuesday October 14th, at 19:00 UTC in #openstack-meeting Meeting minutes and log are available here: Minutes:

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-14 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 09:57:01 -0400 Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/14/2014 05:04 AM, Alex Xu wrote: There is one reason to think about what projects *currently* do. When we choice which convention we want. For example, the CamelCase and snake_case, if the most project use

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] on Dockerfile patterns

2014-10-14 Thread Ian Main
Angus Lees wrote: I've been reading a bunch of the existing Dockerfiles, and I have two humble requests: 1. It would be good if the interesting code came from python sdist/bdists rather than rpms. This will make it possible to rebuild the containers using code from a private

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-14 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:29:34 -0500 Lance Bragstad lbrags...@gmail.com wrote: I found a couple of free times available for a weekly meeting if people are interested: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128332/2 Not sure if a meeting time has been hashed out already or not, and if it has I'll

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] image requirements for Heat software config

2014-10-14 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thomas Spatzier's message of 2014-10-14 10:13:27 -0700: Hi all, I have been experimenting a lot with Heat software config to check out what works today, and to think about potential next steps. I've also worked on an internal project where we are leveraging software config

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] image requirements for Heat software config

2014-10-14 Thread Steve Baker
On 15/10/14 06:13, Thomas Spatzier wrote: Hi all, I have been experimenting a lot with Heat software config to check out what works today, and to think about potential next steps. I've also worked on an internal project where we are leveraging software config as of the Icehouse release. I

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-14 Thread Lance Bragstad
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Christopher Yeoh cbky...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:29:34 -0500 Lance Bragstad lbrags...@gmail.com wrote: I found a couple of free times available for a weekly meeting if people are interested: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128332/2

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] on Dockerfile patterns

2014-10-14 Thread David Vossel
- Original Message - Same thing works with cloud init too... I've been waiting on systemd working inside a container for a while. it seems to work now. oh no... The idea being its hard to write a shell script to get everything up and running with all the interactions that may

Re: [openstack-dev] Neutron documentation to update about new vendor plugin, but without code in repository?

2014-10-14 Thread Vadivel Poonathan
Agreed on the requirements of test results to qualify the vendor plugin to be listed in the upstream docs. Is there any procedure/infrastructure currently available for this purpose?.. Pls. fwd any link/pointers on those info. Thanks, Vad -- On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:25 PM, Akihiro Motoki

Re: [openstack-dev] Neutron documentation to update about new vendor plugin, but without code in repository?

2014-10-14 Thread Anne Gentle
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Vadivel Poonathan vadivel.openst...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed on the requirements of test results to qualify the vendor plugin to be listed in the upstream docs. Is there any procedure/infrastructure currently available for this purpose?.. Pls. fwd any

Re: [openstack-dev] Treating notifications as a contract

2014-10-14 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 13, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Chris Dent chd...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 7 Oct 2014, Sandy Walsh wrote: Haven't had any time to get anything written down (pressing deadlines with StackTach.v3) but open to suggestions. Perhaps we should just add something to the olso.messaging etherpad to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] image requirements for Heat software config

2014-10-14 Thread Steve Baker
On 15/10/14 10:38, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Thomas Spatzier's message of 2014-10-14 10:13:27 -0700: Hi all, I have been experimenting a lot with Heat software config to check out what works today, and to think about potential next steps. I've also worked on an internal project where

Re: [openstack-dev] Treating notifications as a contract

2014-10-14 Thread Sandy Walsh
From: Doug Hellmann [d...@doughellmann.com] Tuesday, October 14, 2014 7:19 PM It might be more appropriate to put it on the cross-project session list: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-crossproject-summit-topics Done ... thanks! ___

Re: [openstack-dev] Quota management and enforcement across projects

2014-10-14 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 14, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com wrote: Hi Doug, do you know if the existing quota oslo-incubator module has already some active consumers? In the meanwhile I've pushed a spec to neutron-specs for improving quota management there [1] It looks like a

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] on Dockerfile patterns

2014-10-14 Thread Fox, Kevin M
Ok, why are you so down on running systemd in a container? Pacemaker works, but its kind of a pain to setup compared just yum installing a few packages and setting init to systemd. There are some benefits for sure, but if you have to force all the docker components onto the same physical

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-14 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 09:45:44 -0400 Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/14/2014 12:52 AM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 22:20:32 -0400 Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/13/2014 07:11 PM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 10:52:26 -0400 And whilst

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-14 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 14, 2014, at 6:00 PM, Lance Bragstad lbrags...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Christopher Yeoh cbky...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:29:34 -0500 Lance Bragstad lbrags...@gmail.com wrote: I found a couple of free times available for a weekly meeting

Re: [openstack-dev] Quota management and enforcement across projects

2014-10-14 Thread Salvatore Orlando
Doug, I totally agree with your findings on the policy module. Neutron already has some customizations there and we already have a few contributors working on syncing it back with oslo-incubator during the Kilo release cycle. However, my query was about the quota module. From what I gather it

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] on Dockerfile patterns

2014-10-14 Thread David Vossel
- Original Message - Ok, why are you so down on running systemd in a container? It goes against the grain. From a distributed systems view, we gain quite a bit of control by maintaining one service per container. Containers can be re-organised and re-purposed dynamically. If we have

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] on Dockerfile patterns

2014-10-14 Thread Charles Crouch
- Original Message - Ok, why are you so down on running systemd in a container? Pacemaker works, but its kind of a pain to setup compared just yum installing a few packages and setting init to systemd. There are some benefits for sure, but if you have to force all the docker

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS][Octavia] Floating IP management

2014-10-14 Thread Vijay B
Hi Phillip, Adding my thoughts below. I’ll first answer the questions you raised with what I think should be done, and then give my explanations to reason through with those views. 1. Do we want to add logic in the plugin to call the FLIP association API? We should implement the logic in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS][Octavia] Floating IP management

2014-10-14 Thread Vijay Venkatachalam
Thanks for the doc. The floating IP could be hosted directly by the lb backend/lb appliance as well? It depends on the appliance deployment. From: Susanne Balle [mailto:sleipnir...@gmail.com] Sent: 14 October 2014 21:15 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Automatic evacuate

2014-10-14 Thread Adam Lawson
Nova is also not the right place to do the generic solution as many other parts could be involved... neutron and cinder come to mind. Nova needs to provide the basic functions but it needs something outside to make it all happen transparently. I would really like a shared solution rather

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-14 Thread Zhipeng Huang
Hi all, to my understanding we certainly don't want developers to arbitrarily extend APIs which would lead to a lot of mess, however we still need to find a way to standardize how we augment existing APIs since they are not perfect either. On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Doug Hellmann

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] on Dockerfile patterns

2014-10-14 Thread Fox, Kevin M
I'm not arguing that everything should be managed by one systemd, I'm just saying, for certain types of containers, a single docker container with systemd in it might be preferable to trying to slice it unnaturally into several containers. Systemd has invested a lot of time/effort to be able

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