Wuhongning [mailto:wuhongn...@huawei.com] wrote:
>Does it make sense to move all advanced extension out of ML2, like security
>group, qos...? Then we can just talk about advanced service itself, without
>bothering basic neutron object (network/subnet/port)
A modular layer 3 (ML3) analogous to ML2
I'm hearing "friend of a friend" that people have looked at the code and
determined that the order of networks on a VM is not guaranteed. Can anyone
confirm whether this is true? If it is true, is there any reason why this is
not considered a bug? I've never seen it happen myself.
To elaborate,
loy wolfe [mailto:loywo...@gmail.com] wrote:
>Then since Network/Subnet/Port will never be treated just as LEGACY
>COMPATIBLE role, there is no need to extend Nova-Neutron interface to
>follow the GBP resource. Anyway, one of optional service plugins inside
>Neutron shouldn't has any impact on Nov
Armando M. [mailto:arma...@gmail.com] wrote:
>>On 9 August 2014 10:16, Jay Pipes wrote:
>>Paul, does this friend of a friend have a reproduceable test
>>script for this?
>We would also need to know the OpenStack release where this issue manifest
>itself. A number of bugs have been raised in the
Daniel P. Berrange [mailto:berra...@redhat.com] wrote:
>our dispersed contributor base. I think that we should be examining
>what we can achieve with some kind of virtual online mid-cycle meetups
>instead. Using technology like google hangouts or some similar live
>collaboration technology, not me
Mike Spreitzer [mailto:mspre...@us.ibm.com] wrote:
>I'll bet I am not the only developer who is not highly competent with
>bridges and tunnels, Open VSwitch, Neutron configuration, and how DevStack
>transmutes all those. My bet is that you would have more developers using
>Neutron if there were a
Daniel P. Berrange [mailto:berra...@redhat.com] wrote:
>Depending on the usage needs, I think Google hangouts is a quite useful
>technology. For many-to-many session its limit of 10 participants can be
>an issue, but for a few-to-many broadcast it could be practical. What I
>find particularly appe
Russell Bryant [mailto:rbry...@redhat.com] wrote:
>An ideal solution would allow attendees to join as individuals from
>anywhere. A lot of contributors work from home. Is that sort of thing
>compatible with your system?
In principle, yes, but that loses the immersive telepresence aspect
which i
If anyone is giving any thought to networks that are available to multiple
tenants (controlled by a configurable list of tenants) but not visible to all
tenants I'd like to hear about it.
I'm especially thinking of scenarios where specific networks exist outside of
OpenStack and have specific p
Sorry for this not threading properly. I had set the Mailman config to filter
on Neutron topic but it ended up filtering out everything so I only saw
responses by looking at the archive. I removed the filter in Mailman and will
have to filter locally on my end. But I don't have any of the origin
Chris Friesen [mailto:chris.frie...@windriver.com] wrote:
>I read a proposal about using thinly-provisioned logical volumes as a
>way around the cost of wiping the disks, since they zero-fill on demand
>rather than incur the cost at deletion time.
I think it make a difference where the requirem
Alan Kavanagh wrote:
>I posted a query to Ironic which is related to this discussion. My thinking
>was I want to ensure the case you note here (1) " a >tenant can not read
>another tenants disk.." the next (2) was where in Ironic you provision a
>baremetal server that has an >onboard dish
Clint Byrum wrote:
>Is that really a path worth going down, given that tenant-A could just
>drop evil firmware in any number of places, and thus all tenants afterward
>are owned anyway?
I think a change of subject line is in order for this topic (assuming it hasn't
been discussed in sufficient d
Clint Byrum wrote:
>Excerpts from Alan Kavanagh's message of 2014-01-15 19:11:03 -0800:
>> Hi Paul
>>
>> I posted a query to Ironic which is related to this discussion. My thinking
>> was I want to ensure the case you note here (1) " a tenant can not read
>> >another tenants disk.." the ne
Feel free to tell me this is a bad idea and scold me for even asking, but
please help me figure out how to do it anyway. This is for a specific tenant in
a specific lab that was built specifically for that one tenant to do some
experimental work that requires VMs to route and other VMs to act as
Darragh O'Reilly wrote:
>Neutron does not know about flavors or images. But it has ports which have a
>name attribute that can be set to an arbitrary string, e.g. 'anti_spoof_off'.
>The
>name does not need to be unique within the tenant. Then your overridden methods
>could check for that string.
Yuriy Taraday wrote:
>Fuel needs to manage nodes directly via DHCP and PXE and you can't do that
>with Neutron since you can't make its >dnsmasq service quiet.
Can you elaborate on what you mean by this? You can turn of Neutron’s dnsmasq
on a per network basis, correct? Do you mean something el
Paul Ward:
Thank you to all who have participated in this thread. I've just proposed a
fix in gerrit. For those involved thus far, if you could review I would be
greatly appreciative!
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68742/1
I wouldn't go so far as to say this verification SHOULDN'T be added
Paul Ward wrote:
>Given your statement about routers potentially using a /30 network, I think we
>should leave the restriction at /30
>rather than /29. I'm assuming your statement that >some routers use /30
>subnets to connect to each other could
>potentially apply to neutron-created routers.
I agree that I'd like to see a set of use cases for this. This is the second
time in as many days that I've heard about a desire to have such a thing but I
still don't think I understand any use cases adequately.
In the physical world it makes perfect sense, LACP, MLT,
Etherchannel/Portchannel,
Lingxian Kong wrote:
>Actually, in the scenario of NFV, all the rules or behaviors of the physical
>world will apply to that in the virtual world, right?
>IMHO, despite of the scenarios, we should at least guarantee the consistency
>of creating vms with nics and attaching nics .
I'll need to t
Joshua Harlow wrote:
>From what I know most all (correct me if I am wrong) open source projects
>don't translate log messages; so it seems odd to be the special snowflake
>project/s.
>Do people find this type of translation useful?
>It'd be nice to know how many people really do so the benefit/dr
Jay Pipes wrote:
>Have you ever tried using Google Translate for anything more than very
>simple phrases?
>The results can be... well, interesting ;) And given the amount of
>technical terms used in these messages, I doubt GT or any automated
>translating service would provide a whole lot of valu
should at least guarantee the
consistency of creating vms with nics and attaching nics.
在 2014-01-24 22:33:36，"CARVER, PAUL" mailto:pc2...@att.com>> 写道：
I agree that I’d like to see a set of use cases for this. This is the second
time in as many days that I’ve heard about a desir
Vishvananda Ishaya wrote:
>In testing I have been unable to saturate a 10g link using a single VM. Even
>with multiple streams,
>the best I have been able to do (using virtio and vhost_net is about 7.8g.
Can you share details about your hardware and vSwitch config (possibly off list
if that isn
Kyle Mestery wrote:
>So, in general I don't think this will fly because it's my understanding the
>OpenStack servers only test fully open source code. Allowing a third party
>vendor system to run on the OpenStack servers as part of any functional
>testing would open an entirely new can of worms h
Julien Vey wrote:
>About Gerrit, I think it is also a little too much. Many users have their
> own reviewing system, Pull requests with github, bitbucket or stash,
>their own instance of gerrit, or even a custom git workflow.
>Gerrit would be a great feature for future versions of Solum. but only
Tina,
That was a good conversation. Would you be available for some additional
followup on the L3 VPN topic at 4:00 today? I have a coworker who wasn't
available for the discussion earlier today.
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I'm planning to go to the neutron policy session at 1:30 but I'd like to find a
chance to meet you and say hi. I'll be at the summit through Friday.
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Date:
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Cc: "Ian Wells
Port mirroring is definitely a topic that I hear coming from network
operations. The netops folks are accustomed to having sniffers all over the
place and being able to span switch ports as a first step in network
troubleshooting. The concern about "how do I span a port" is one of the first
que
Did anything interesting come out of the port mirroring discussion in the
Neutron pod this morning?
Through a failure to hear the alert from my phone I completely forgot to show
up.
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When looking at a change in Gerrit that includes an rst file, is there any easy
way to view the rendered view rather than merely the markup view? The side by
side diff is great, but I'd really like a clickable link to the rendered view,
especially for ones that include nwdiag or blockdiag synta
Are you sure steps 1 and 2 aren’t in the wrong order? Seems like if you’re
going to halt the source VM you should take your snapshot after halting. (Of
course if you don’t intend to halt the VM you can just do your best to quiesce
your most active writers before taking the snapshot and hope the
Mohammad Banikazemi wrote:
>in Atlanta the support was overwhelmingly positive in my opinion. I just
>wanted to make sure this does not get >lost in our discussions.
Absolutely. I hadn't been following the group policy discussions prior to the
summit but I was very impressed with what I saw a
Mathieu Rohon wrote:
>I'm also very interested in scheduling VMs with Network requirement. This
>seems to be in the scope of NFV workgroup >[1].
>For instance, I think that scheduling should take into account bandwith/QoS
>requirement for a VM, or specific Nic
This falls in my area of interest a
Amir Sadoughi wrote:
>Specifically, OVS lacks connection tracking so it won't have a RELATED feature
>or stateful rules
>for non-TCP flows. (OVS connection tracking is currently under development, to
>be released by 2015
It definitely needs a big obvious warning label on this. A stateless fire
Suppose a tenant knows that some of their networks are particularly high
bandwidth and others are relatively low bandwidth.
Is there any mechanism that a tenant can use to let Neutron know what sort of
bandwidth is expected through a particular router?
I'm concerned about the physical NICs on s
James E. Blair [mailto:jebl...@openstack.org] wrote:
>significant amount of time chasing bots. It's clear that Freenode is
>better able to deal with attacks than OFTC would be. However, OFTC
>doesn't have to deal with them because they aren't happening; and that's
>worth considering.
Does anyon
I have personally witnessed someone (honestly, not me) select "Terminate
Instance" when they meant "Reboot Instance" and that mistake is way too easy.
I'm not sure if it was a brain mistake or mere slip of the mouse, but it's
enough to make people really nervous in a production environment. If t
Jay Pipes wrote:
>I'm proposing getting rid of the host aggregate hack (or maybe evolving
>it?) as well as the availability zone concept and replacing them with a
>more flexible generic container object that may be hierarchical in
>nature.
Is the thing you're proposing to replace them with someth
Zane Bitter wrote:
>(1) Create a network
>Instinctively, I want a Network to be something like a virtual VRF
>(VVRF?): a separate namespace with it's own route table, within which
>subnet prefixes are not overlapping, but which is completely independent
>of other Networks that may contain overl
Are there any blueprints or discussion around logging the actions of iptables
rules that are generated from security groups?
Typically a firewall produces copious logs. As far as I can tell, Neutron
security groups permit or deny traffic but don't provide any record at all of
what happened. Obv
Akihiro Motoki wrote:
>To cope with such cases, allowed-address-pairs extension was implemented.
>http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-network/2.0/content/allowed_address_pair_ext_ops.html
Question on this in particular: Is a tenant permitted to do this? If so, what
exactly is the iptables
Aaron Rosen wrote:
>Sorry not really. It's still not clear to me why multiple nics would be
>required on the same L2 domain.
I’m a fan of this old paper for nostalgic reasons
http://static.usenix.org/legacy/publications/library/proceedings/neta99/full_papers/limoncelli/limoncelli.pdf
but a sea
Is anyone using Neutron for high bandwidth workloads? (for sake of discussion
let's "high" = "50Gbps or greater")
With routers being implemented as network namespaces within x86 servers it
seems like Neutron networks would be pretty bandwidth constrained relative to
"real" routers.
As we start
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From: Yi Sun
Date:
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DVR SNAT shortcut
Yi wrote:
+1, I had another email to discuss about FW (FWaaS) and DVR integration.
Traditionally, we run firewall with router so that fire
Anant Patil wrote:
>I use tmux (an alternative to screen) a lot and I believe lot of other
>developers use it.
>I have been using devstack for some time now and would like to add the option
>of
>using tmux instead of screen for creating sessions for openstack services.
>I couldn't find a way to d
Andrew Mann wrote:
>What's the use case for an IPv6 endpoint? This service is just for instance
>metadata,
>so as long as a requirement to support IPv4 is in place, using solely an IPv4
>endpoint
>avoids a number of complexities:
The obvious use case would be deprecation of IPv4, but the questi
Alan Kavanagh wrote:
>If we have more work being put on the table, then more Core members would
>definitely go a long way with assisting this, we cant wait for folks to be
>reviewing stuff as an excuse to not get features landed in a given release.
Stability is absolutely essential so we can't f
Collins, Sean wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 12:06:06AM EDT, Xu Han Peng wrote:
>> I would like to request one Juno Spec freeze exception for "Support Stateful
>> and Stateless DHCPv6 by dnsmasq" BP.
>>
>> The spec is under review:
>> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102411/
>>
>> Code change
On Aug 6, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Mohammad Banikazemi
mailto:m...@us.ibm.com>>
wrote:
>Yes, indeed.
>I do not want to be over dramatic but the discussion on the original "Group
>Based Policy and the way forward" thread is nothing short of heartbreaking.
>After months and months of discussions, three p
p/SPAN/mirror capability when I'd
much rather integrate the analyzers into OpenStack.
-Original Message-
From: Kyle Mestery (Code Review) [mailto:rev...@openstack.org]
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 17:37
To: vinay yadhav
Cc: CARVER, PAUL; Marios Andreou; Sumit Naiksatam; Anil Rao
Anda,
Will you be able to join the OpenContrail summit today? The Zoom link is below
if you weren't able to make advance plans to join us in person in Austin.
Hopefully the presentations will be helpful and there will be time for
discussion directly related to this topic.
https://zoom.us/j/516
It was a gating criteria for stadium status. The idea was that the for a
stadium project the neutron team would have review authority over the API but
wouldn't necessarily review or be overly familiar with the implementation.
A project that didn't have it's API definition in neutron-lib could do
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files
On 28 December 2017 at 06:57, CARVER, PAUL
mailto:pc2...@att.com>> wrote:
It was a gating criteria for stadium status. The idea was that the for a
sta
On Monday, June 04, 2018 18:47, Jay Pipes wrote:
>Just my two cents, but the OpenStack and Linux foundations seem to be pumping
>out new "open events" at a pretty regular clip -- >OpenStack Summit, OpenDev,
>Open Networking Summit, OpenStack Days, OpenInfra Days, OpenNFV summit, the
>list kee
Jumping into the general Storyboard topic, but distinct from the previous
questions about searching, is there any equivalent in Storyboard to the
Launchpad series and milestones diagrams? e.g.:
https://launchpad.net/nova/+series
https://launchpad.net/neutron/+series
https://launchpad.net/cinder/
Doug Hellmann wrote:
>I'm not sure what sort of project-specific documentation we think we need.
Perhaps none if there is a standard, but is there a standard? Can you give me
examples in Storyboard of "standard" views that present information even
vaguely similar to https://launchpad.net/nova
Jeremy Stanley wrote:
>I'm just going to come out and call bullshit on this one. How many of the >800
>official OpenStack deliverable repos have a view like that with any actual
>relevant detail? If it's "standard" then certainly more than half, right?
Well, that's a bit rude, so I'm not going
Matt Riedemann wrote:
>The specs thing was mentioned last week in IRC when talking about blueprints
>in launchpad and I just want to reiterate the specs are
>more about high level designs and reviewing those designs in Gerrit which was
>/ is a major drawback in the 'whiteboard' in launchpad fo
Doug Hellmann wrote:
>If we're just throwing data into it without trying to use it to communicate,
>then I can see us having lots of different views of priority with
>the same level of "official-ness". I don't think that's what we're doing
>though. I think we're trying to help teams track wh
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