Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] placement/resource providers update 4

2016-12-06 Thread Jay Pipes
On 12/06/2016 04:00 PM, melanie witt wrote: On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 15:42:18 -0500, Jay Pipes wrote: On 12/06/2016 03:28 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: On Dec 6, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: I would prefer: GET /resource_providers?resources=DISK_GB:40,VCPU:2,MEMORY_MB:2048 to "group" the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] placement/resource providers update 4

2016-12-06 Thread Jay Pipes
On 12/06/2016 03:28 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: On Dec 6, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: I would prefer: GET /resource_providers?resources=DISK_GB:40,VCPU:2,MEMORY_MB:2048 to "group" the resources parameter together. When we add in trait lookups, we're going to want a way to cl

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] placement/resource providers update 4

2016-12-06 Thread Jay Pipes
On 12/06/2016 02:02 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: On Dec 6, 2016, at 9:56 AM, Chris Dent wrote: * There is unresolved debate about the structure of the request being made to the API. Is it POST or a GET, does it have a body or use query strings? The plan is to resolve this discussion in the review of

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] trunk api performance and scale measurments

2016-12-05 Thread Jay Pipes
On 12/05/2016 10:59 AM, Bence Romsics wrote: Hi, I measured how the new trunk API scales with lots of subports. You can find the results here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron_Trunk_API_Performance_and_Scaling Hope you find it useful. There are several open ends, let me know if you're i

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] placement/resource providers update 4

2016-12-02 Thread Jay Pipes
On Dec 2, 2016 5:21 PM, "Matt Riedemann" wrote: On 12/2/2016 12:04 PM, Chris Dent wrote: > > > Latest news on what's going on with resource providers and the > placement API. I've made some adjustments in the structure of this > since last time[0]. The new structure tries to put the stuff we nee

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] placement/resource providers update 4

2016-12-02 Thread Jay Pipes
Thanks for the update, Chris, appreciated. No comments from me other than to say thanks :) On 12/02/2016 01:04 PM, Chris Dent wrote: Latest news on what's going on with resource providers and the placement API. I've made some adjustments in the structure of this since last time[0]. The new st

[openstack-dev] [nova][placement][ironic] Progress on custom resource classes

2016-12-02 Thread Jay Pipes
Ironic colleagues, heads up, please read the below fully! I'd like your feedback on a couple outstanding questions. tl;dr - Work for custom resource classes has been proceeding well this cycle, and we're at a point where reviews from the Ironic community and functional testing of a series

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Nominating Stephen Finucane for nova-core

2016-12-02 Thread Jay Pipes
+1 On 12/02/2016 10:22 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: I'm proposing that we add Stephen Finucane to the nova-core team. Stephen has been involved with nova for at least around a year now, maybe longer, my ability to tell time in nova has gotten fuzzy over the years. Regardless, he's always been eager

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Status of imagebackend refactor patches

2016-12-01 Thread Jay Pipes
Just following up on this. All of the above are now approved and working their way through the gate. Big thanks to Sean Dague, Feodor Tersin, and Melanie Witt for review assistance over the last couple weeks. Also thanks to Chris Dent for reviewing the bulk of the series today as well and leavi

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Allowing Teams Based on Vendor-specific Drivers

2016-11-28 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/28/2016 01:33 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: I'm raising this as an issue because it's not just a hypothetical problem. The Cisco networking driver team, having been removed from the Neutron stadium, is asking for status as a separate official team [1]. I would very much like to find a way to say

Re: [openstack-dev] [new][nimble] New project: Nimble

2016-11-27 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/27/2016 10:27 PM, Zhenguo Niu wrote: hi Jay, Ironic's existing API is admin only, which should not be exposed to end users, it is best thought of as a bare metal hypervisor API. And Ironic lacks the ability of scheduling, quotas management and multi-tenancy support, it heavily depends on N

Re: [openstack-dev] [new][nimble] New project: Nimble

2016-11-27 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/25/2016 04:41 AM, Zhenguo Niu wrote: hi all, We are pleased to introduce Nimble, a new OpenStack project which aims to provide bare metal computing management. Compared with Nova, it's more bare metal specific and with more advanced features that VM users don't need, it's not bounded by No

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Team meeting is cancelled for Thursday 11/24

2016-11-23 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/23/2016 10:53 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: By the time the nova meeting rolls around I'll be crying because of (1) my beloved MN Vikings losing to the lowly Lions and (2) eating too much and feeling ashamed. At least with (1) I'm not Jay who is a Browns fan. They are the worst. :) They are

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Stepping back

2016-11-22 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/22/2016 11:39 AM, Andrew Laski wrote: I should have sent this weeks ago but I'm a bad person who forgets common courtesy. My employment situation has changed in a way that does not afford me the necessary time to remain a regular contributor to Nova, or the broader OpenStack community. So i

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][infra] How to handle doc in kolla and kolla-ansible

2016-11-21 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/21/2016 07:43 AM, Andreas Jaeger wrote: On 2016-11-21 13:24, Steven Dake (stdake) wrote: Pete, The main problem with that is publishing docs to docs.oo which would then confuse the reader even more then they are already confused by reading our docs ;) Regards -steve From: Pete Birley m

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Thanks to those reviewing specs this week

2016-11-17 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/17/2016 10:15 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: I just wanted to say thanks to everyone reviewing specs this week. I've seen a lot of non-core newer people to the specs review process chipping in and helping to review a lot of the specs we're trying to get approved for Ocata. It can be hard to grin

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Baremetal Storage Service?

2016-11-15 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/14/2016 10:22 PM, Akira Yoshiyama wrote: 2016-11-14 2:19 GMT+09:00 Jay Pipes mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com>>: On 11/13/2016 01:52 AM, Akira Yoshiyama wrote: No. "physical storages" means storage products like EMC VNX, NetApp Data ONTAP, HPE Lefthand and so on. Say there

Re: [openstack-dev] oaktree - a friendly end-user oriented API layer - anybody want to help?

2016-11-15 Thread Jay Pipes
Awesome start, Monty :) Comments inline. On 11/15/2016 09:56 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: Hey everybody! At this past OpenStack Summit the results of the Interop Challenge were shown on stage. It was pretty awesome - 17 different people from 17 different clouds ran the same workload. And it worked!

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][vmware] status of vmware third party CI?

2016-11-15 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/15/2016 10:09 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: I've got a docs patch that failed both nova-net and neutron vmware third party CI: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397382/ The nova-net one failed some aggregates response validation: http://208.91.1.172/logs/ext-nova-dsvm/397382/2/2074/tempest_re

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Baremetal Storage Service?

2016-11-13 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/13/2016 01:52 AM, Akira Yoshiyama wrote: Hi Jay, 2016-11-13 3:12 GMT+09:00 Jay Pipes : On 11/12/2016 09:31 AM, Akira Yoshiyama wrote: Hi Stackers, In TripleO, Ironic provides physical servers for an OpenStack deployment but we have to configure physical storages manually, or with any

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Baremetal Storage Service?

2016-11-12 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/12/2016 09:31 AM, Akira Yoshiyama wrote: Hi Stackers, In TripleO, Ironic provides physical servers for an OpenStack deployment but we have to configure physical storages manually, or with any tool, if required. It's better that an OpenStack service manages physical storages as same as Iron

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Registration open for the Project Teams Gathering, Atlanta Feb 20-24, 2017

2016-11-11 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/08/2016 04:29 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, The registration is now open for the first OpenStack Project Teams Gathering event (which will take place in Atlanta, GA the week of February 20, 2017). This event is geared toward existing upstream team members, and will provide a venue

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] placement / resource providers ocata summit session recaps

2016-11-11 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/11/2016 03:19 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 11/11/2016 12:28 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: Matt, thanks much for your excellent summary of the resource provider sessions in Barcelona. A couple minor corrections noted below. On 11/02/2016 01:54 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: - Custom resource classes

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] placement / resource providers ocata summit session recaps

2016-11-11 Thread Jay Pipes
Matt, thanks much for your excellent summary of the resource provider sessions in Barcelona. A couple minor corrections noted below. On 11/02/2016 01:54 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: - Custom resource classes The code for this is moving along and being reviewed. There will be namespaces on the sta

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Follow up on BCN review cadence discussions

2016-11-08 Thread Jay Pipes
On Nov 8, 2016 1:13 PM, "Matt Riedemann" wrote: > > On 11/8/2016 11:39 AM, Dan Smith wrote: >>> >>> I do imagine, however, that most folks who have been working >>> on nova for long enough have a list of domain experts in their heads >>> already. Would actually putting that on paper really hurt? >

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone][nova][cinder][horizon][all] properties / metadata for resources

2016-11-05 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/05/2016 01:15 AM, Steve Martinelli wrote: The keystone team has a new spec being proposed for the Ocata release, it essentially boils down to adding properties / metadata for projects (for now) [1]. Yes, I'd seen that particular spec review and found it interesting in a couple ways. W

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] About doing the migration claim with Placement API

2016-11-02 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/01/2016 10:14 AM, Alex Xu wrote: Currently we only update the resource usage with Placement API in the instance claim and the available resource update periodic task. But there is no claim for migration with placement API yet. This works is tracked by https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/16

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Moving storage placement out of the driver

2016-11-01 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/01/2016 10:41 AM, Matthew Booth wrote: For context, this is a speculative: should we, shouldn't we? The VMware driver currently allows the user to specify what storage their instance will use, I believe using a flavor extra-spec. We've also got significant interest in adding the same to th

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Performance concerns over all the new notifications

2016-10-20 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/20/2016 05:07 AM, Joshua Harlow wrote: Matt Riedemann wrote: There are a lot of specs up for review in ocata related to adding new versioned notifications for operations that we didn't have notifications on before, like CRUD operations on resources like flavors and server groups. We've go

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Performance concerns over all the new notifications

2016-10-20 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/20/2016 05:08 AM, Joshua Harlow wrote: Matt Riedemann wrote: There are a lot of specs up for review in ocata related to adding new versioned notifications for operations that we didn't have notifications on before, like CRUD operations on resources like flavors and server groups. We've go

Re: [openstack-dev] Endpoint structure: a free-for-all

2016-10-19 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/19/2016 05:32 PM, Brian Curtin wrote: I'm currently facing what looks more and more like an impossible problem in determining the root of each service on a given cloud. It is apparently a free-for-all in how endpoints can be structured, and I think we're out of ways to approach it that catc

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][scheduler] ResourceProvider design issues

2016-10-17 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/17/2016 11:14 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: Now that we’re starting to model some more complex resources, it seems that some of the original design decisions may have been mistaken. One approach to work around this is to create multiple levels of resource providers. While that works, it is unneces

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone][nova][neutron][all] Rolling upgrades: database triggers and oslo.versionedobjects

2016-10-14 Thread Jay Pipes
Alex, so sorry for the long delayed response! :( This just crept to the back of my inbox unfortunately. Answer inline... On 09/14/2016 07:24 PM, Bashmakov, Alexander wrote: Glance and Keystone do not participate in a rolling upgrade, because Keystone and Glance do not have a distributed componen

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Propose to add FusionCompute driver to Nova

2016-10-13 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/13/2016 04:02 AM, Zhenyu Zheng wrote: Hi All, We would like to propose FusionCompute driver to become an official Nova driver. FusionCompute is an computing virtualization software developed by Huawei, which can provide tuned high-performance and high reliabilities in VM instance provisio

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][Nova] Expose trunk details over metadata API

2016-10-07 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/07/2016 09:43 AM, Bence Romsics wrote: Hi, To follow up on the complications of bringing up trunk subports [1] I have written up a small proposal for a tiny new feature affecting neutron and nova. That is how to expose trunk details over metadata API. To avoid big process overhead I have o

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][networking-vpp]Introducing networking-vpp

2016-10-06 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/06/2016 11:58 AM, Naveen Joy (najoy) wrote: It’s primarliy because we have seen better stability and scalability with etcd over rabbitmq. Well, that's kind of comparing apples to oranges. :) One is a distributed k/v store. The other is a message queue broker. The way that we (IMHO) over

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][networking-vpp]Introducing networking-vpp

2016-10-06 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/06/2016 11:39 AM, Neil Jerram wrote: On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 3:44 PM Jay Pipes mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 10/06/2016 03:46 AM, Jerome Tollet (jtollet) wrote: > Hey Kevin, > > Thanks for your interest in this project. > > We found et

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][API WG] How does one best express a time interval as an API filtering query?

2016-10-06 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/06/2016 11:43 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2016-10-06 10:30:30 -0500 (-0500), Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: [...] Problem with that is that ':' is a valid character within an ISO date, though I do like the 'between' prefix. Now, '/' can be used if it's URL encoded, but I agree that that is non

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][API WG] How does one best express a time interval as an API filtering query?

2016-10-06 Thread Jay Pipes
Great question! My opinion inline... On 10/06/2016 08:56 AM, milanisko k wrote: Dear API WG, We've got ourselves into a bike shedding situation[1] w/r the WG filtering suggestion[2]. What we find difficult is to express the ISO8601 time intervals[3][4] in accordance to the filtering suggestion.

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][networking-vpp]Introducing networking-vpp

2016-10-06 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/06/2016 03:46 AM, Jerome Tollet (jtollet) wrote: Hey Kevin, Thanks for your interest in this project. We found etcd very convenient to store desired states as well as operational states. It made the design easy to provide production grade features (e.g. agent restart, mechanical driver re

Re: [openstack-dev] [telemetry] Deprecating the Ceilometer API

2016-10-04 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/04/2016 11:53 AM, Hague, Darren wrote: On Tue, 4 Oct 2016, Chris Dent wrote: On Tue, 4 Oct 2016, Julien Danjou wrote: Considering the split of Ceilometer in subprojects (Aodh and Panko) during those last cycles, and the increasing usage of Gnocchi, I am starting to wonder if it makes sen

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Latest news on placement API and Ocata rough goals

2016-09-26 Thread Jay Pipes
On 09/23/2016 05:07 PM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: Le 23/09/2016 18:41, Jay Pipes a écrit : 5. Nested resource providers Things like SR-IOV PCI devices are actually resource providers that are embedded within another resource provider (the compute node itself). In order to tag things like SR-IOV PFs

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections][TC] TC Candidacy

2016-09-26 Thread Jay Pipes
John, appreciate your candor and candidacy. Some questions inline for you... On 09/26/2016 06:57 AM, John Davidge wrote: Last year, the TC moved OpenStack away from the Integrated Release, and into The Big Tent. This removed the separation between those projects considered integral to OpenStack,

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][fuel][tripleo] Reference architecture to deploy OpenStack on k8s

2016-09-23 Thread Jay Pipes
On 09/23/2016 01:04 PM, Steven Dake (stdake) wrote: I also fail to see how training the Fuel team with the choices Kolla has made in implementation puts OpenStack first. Sorry, could you elaborate on what exactly you mean above? What do you mean by "training the Fuel team with the choices Koll

[openstack-dev] [nova] Latest news on placement API and Ocata rough goals

2016-09-23 Thread Jay Pipes
Hi Stackers, In Newton, we had a major goal of having Nova sending inventory and allocation records from the nova-compute daemon to the new placement API service over HTTP (i.e. not RPC). I'm happy to say we achieved this goal. We had a stretch goal from the mid-cycle of implementing the cust

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Is there any reason we shouldn't remove nova.image.s3 now?

2016-09-21 Thread Jay Pipes
On 09/21/2016 07:43 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: The s3 image configuration options were deprecated for removal in newton [1]. Clint has a patch up to remove the boto dependency from nova [2] which is only used in the nova.image.s3 module. Rather than remove the boto dependency, I think we should

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone][nova][neutron][all] Rolling upgrades: database triggers and oslo.versionedobjects

2016-09-14 Thread Jay Pipes
On 09/01/2016 05:29 AM, Henry Nash wrote: So as the person who drove the rolling upgrade requirements into keystone in this cycle (because we have real customers that need it), and having first written the keystone upgrade process to be “versioned object ready” (because I assumed we would do this

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][python3] use of six.iteritems()

2016-09-13 Thread Jay Pipes
On 09/13/2016 08:23 PM, Terry Wilson wrote: On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 09/13/2016 01:40 PM, Terry Wilson wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Sean Dague wrote: On 06/11/2015 09:02 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 06/11/2015 01:16 AM, Robert Collins wrote: But again

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][python3] use of six.iteritems()

2016-09-13 Thread Jay Pipes
On 09/13/2016 01:40 PM, Terry Wilson wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Sean Dague wrote: On 06/11/2015 09:02 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 06/11/2015 01:16 AM, Robert Collins wrote: But again - where in OpenStack does this matter the slightest? Precisely. I can't think of a single

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] governance proposal worth a visit: Write down OpenStack principles

2016-09-09 Thread Jay Pipes
On 09/09/2016 02:10 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2016-09-09 13:03:42 -0400: My vote is definitely for something #2-like, as I've said before and on the review, I believe OpenStack should be a "cloud toolkit" composed of well-scoped and limited services in the vei

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] governance proposal worth a visit: Write down OpenStack principles

2016-09-09 Thread Jay Pipes
On 09/09/2016 06:22 AM, John Davidge wrote: Thierry Carrez wrote: [...] In the last years there were a lot of "questions" asked by random contributors, especially around the "One OpenStack" principle (which seems to fuel most of the reaction here). Remarks like "we should really decide once and

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Next steps for resource providers work

2016-08-31 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/29/2016 12:40 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: I've been out for a week and not very involved in the resource providers work, but after talking about the various changes up in the air at the moment a bunch of us thought it would be helpful to lay out next steps for the work we want to get done thi

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][massively distributed][architecture]Coordination between actions/WGs

2016-08-31 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/31/2016 01:57 AM, Bogdan Dobrelya wrote: I agree that RPC design pattern, as it is implemented now, is a major blocker for OpenStack in general. It requires a major redesign, including handling of corner cases, on both sides, *especially* RPC call clients. Or may be it just have to be aband

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Next steps for resource providers work

2016-08-31 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/29/2016 12:40 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: I've been out for a week and not very involved in the resource providers work, but after talking about the various changes up in the air at the moment a bunch of us thought it would be helpful to lay out next steps for the work we want to get done thi

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Reconciling flavors and block device mappings

2016-08-29 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/29/2016 05:53 AM, Andrew Laski wrote: Personally I believe the cat is out of the bag on bdms overriding flavors and we should just commit to that path and make it work well. And for deployers who rely on flavors being the source of truth maybe we provide them a policy check or some other me

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Reconciling flavors and block device mappings

2016-08-29 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/29/2016 05:11 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: Le 29/08/2016 13:25, Jay Pipes a écrit : On 08/26/2016 09:20 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: On Aug 25, 2016, at 3:19 PM, Andrew Laski wrote: One other thing to note is that while a flavor constrains how much local disk is used it does not constrain volume

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Reconciling flavors and block device mappings

2016-08-29 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/26/2016 09:20 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: On Aug 25, 2016, at 3:19 PM, Andrew Laski wrote: One other thing to note is that while a flavor constrains how much local disk is used it does not constrain volume size at all. So a user can specify an ephemeral/swap disk <= to what the flavor provides b

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][massively distributed][architecture]Coordination between actions/WGs

2016-08-29 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/27/2016 11:16 AM, HU, BIN wrote: The challenge in OpenStack is how to enable the innovation built on top of OpenStack. No, that's not the challenge for OpenStack. That's like saying the challenge for gasoline is how to enable the innovation of a jet engine. So telco use cases is not

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][massively distributed][architecture]Coordination between actions/WGs

2016-08-29 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/28/2016 09:02 PM, joehuang wrote: Hello, Bin, Understand your expectation. In Tricircle big-tent application: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/338796/, a proposal was also given to add plugin mechnism in Nova/Cinder API layer, just like Neutron support plugin mechanism in API layer, tha

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][massively distributed][architecture]Coordination between actions/WGs

2016-08-27 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/25/2016 06:38 PM, joehuang wrote: Hello, Ed, Just as Peter mentioned, "BT's NFV use cases e.g. vCPE, vCDN, vEPC, vIMS, MEC, IoT, where we will have compute highly distributed around the network (from thousands to millions of sites) ". vCPE is only one use case, but not all. And the har

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][massively distributed][architecture] Coordination between actions/WGs

2016-08-27 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/25/2016 11:08 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Jay Pipes wrote: [...] How is vCPE a *cloud* use case? From what I understand, the v[E]CPE use case is essentially that Telcos want to have the set-top boxen/routers that are running cable television apps (i.e. AT&T U-verse or Verizon FiOS-

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][massively distributed][architecture] Coordination between actions/WGs

2016-08-24 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/24/2016 04:26 AM, Peter Willis wrote: Colleagues, I'd like to confirm that scalability and multi-site operations are key to BT's NFV use cases e.g. vCPE, vCDN, vEPC, vIMS, MEC, IoT, where we will have compute highly distributed around the network (from thousands to millions of sites). BT w

Re: [openstack-dev] [NOVA] How boot an instance on specific compute with provider-network: physnet1

2016-08-21 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/21/2016 03:24 PM, Fawaz Mohammed wrote: I belive utilizing host aggregate is better than availability zone in this case. Users don't know anything about host aggregates. They are a cloud-admin-only way of grouping like compute resources together and the end user doesn't have any way of

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Hold off on pushing new patches for config option cleanup

2016-08-18 Thread Jay Pipes
Roger that. On 08/18/2016 11:48 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: We have a lot of open changes for the centralize / cleanup config option work: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/centralize-config-options-newton We said at the midcycle we'd all

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Getting rid of ISO

2016-08-16 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/16/2016 04:58 AM, Vladimir Kozhukalov wrote: Dear colleagues, We finally have working custom deployment job that deploys Fuel admin node using online RPM repositories (not ISO) on vanilla Centos 7.0. Bravo! :) Currently all Fuel system and deployment tests use ISO and we are planning t

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] os-capabilities library created

2016-08-15 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/15/2016 03:57 AM, Alex Xu wrote: 2016-08-15 12:56 GMT+08:00 Yingxin Cheng mailto:yingxinch...@gmail.com>>: Hi, I'm concerned with the dependencies between "os-capabilities" library and all the other OpenStack services such as Nova, Placement, Ironic, etc. Rather than

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] os-capabilities library created

2016-08-15 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/15/2016 12:56 AM, Yingxin Cheng wrote: Hi, I'm concerned with the dependencies between "os-capabilities" library and all the other OpenStack services such as Nova, Placement, Ironic, etc. Rather than embedding the universal "os-capabilities" in Nova, Cinder, Glance, Ironic services that w

Re: [openstack-dev] [ci-cd] Jenkinsfile support (or repo/s for them?)

2016-08-15 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/15/2016 03:47 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote: I've been experimenting/investigating/playing around with the 'new' jenkins pipeline support (see https://jenkins.io/doc/pipeline/ for those who don't know what this is) and it got me thinking that there are probably X other people/groups/companies

Re: [openstack-dev] [ci-cd] Jenkinsfile support (or repo/s for them?)

2016-08-15 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/15/2016 01:19 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote: Hi folks, I've been experimenting/investigating/playing around with the 'new' jenkins pipeline support (see https://jenkins.io/doc/pipeline/ for those who don't know what this is) and it got me thinking that there are probably X other people/groups/co

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][API] Need naming suggestions for "capabilities"

2016-08-15 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/15/2016 12:01 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2016-08-15 10:33:49 -0400: On 08/15/2016 09:27 AM, Andrew Laski wrote: Currently in Nova we're discussion adding a "capabilities" API to expose to users what actions they're allowed to take, and having compute hos

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][API] Need naming suggestions for "capabilities"

2016-08-15 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/15/2016 10:50 AM, Dean Troyer wrote: On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 9:33 AM, Jay Pipes mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 08/15/2016 09:27 AM, Andrew Laski wrote: After some thought, I think I've changed my mind on referring to the adjectives as "c

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][API] Need naming suggestions for "capabilities"

2016-08-15 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/15/2016 09:27 AM, Andrew Laski wrote: Currently in Nova we're discussion adding a "capabilities" API to expose to users what actions they're allowed to take, and having compute hosts expose "capabilities" for use by the scheduler. As much fun as it would be to have the same term mean two ve

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] os-capabilities library created

2016-08-14 Thread Jay Pipes
Word up, Travis :) A few comments inline, but overall I'm looking forward to collaborating with you, Steve, and all the other Searchlight contributors on os-capabilities (or os-caps as Sean wants to rename it ;) On 08/11/2016 08:00 PM, Tripp, Travis S wrote: [Graffit] was originally co-sponsor

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] os-capabilities library created

2016-08-12 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/12/2016 04:05 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 07:47:37PM -0400, Jay Pipes wrote: Hi Novas and anyone interested in how to represent capabilities in a consistent fashion. I spent an hour creating a new os-capabilities Python library this evening: http://github.com

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] os-capabilities library created

2016-08-12 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/12/2016 07:49 AM, Jim Rollenhagen wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 9:03 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 08/11/2016 05:46 PM, Clay Gerrard wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Ed Leafe mailto:e...@leafe.com>> wrote: Overall this looks good, although it seems a bit odd t

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] os-capabilities library created

2016-08-11 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/11/2016 05:50 PM, John Dickinson wrote: On 3 Aug 2016, at 16:47, Jay Pipes wrote: Hi Novas and anyone interested in how to represent capabilities in a consistent fashion. I spent an hour creating a new os-capabilities Python library this evening: http://github.com/jaypipes/os

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] os-capabilities library created

2016-08-11 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/11/2016 05:25 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: On Aug 3, 2016, at 6:47 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: Please see the README for examples of how the library works and how I'm thinking of structuring these capability strings and symbols. I intend os-capabilities to be the place where the OpenStack comm

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] os-capabilities library created

2016-08-11 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/11/2016 05:46 PM, Clay Gerrard wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Ed Leafe mailto:e...@leafe.com>> wrote: Overall this looks good, although it seems a bit odd to have ALL_CAPS_STRINGS to represent all:caps:strings throughout. The example you gave: >>> print os_caps.H

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] static Portgroup support.

2016-08-09 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/09/2016 04:28 AM, Vasyl Saienko wrote: Hello Ironic'ers! We've recorded a demo that shows how static portgroup works at the moment: Flat network scenario: https://youtu.be/vBlH0ie6Lm4 Multitenant network scenario: https://youtu.be/Kk5Cc_K1tV8 Just watched both the above demo videos. Gre

[openstack-dev] [tempest][swift][radosgw] Can we please merge the fix for the RFC 7230 violation issue?

2016-08-08 Thread Jay Pipes
Tempest devs, Let me please draw your attention to a LP bug that may not seem particularly high priority, but I believe could be resolved easily with a patch already proposed. LP bug 1536251 [1] accurately states that Tempest is actively verifying that an OpenStack API call violates RFC 7230

Re: [openstack-dev] [glare][kolla] timing of release of glare and request for technical interview on IRC wherever the glare team wants to have it

2016-08-08 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/08/2016 07:48 AM, Steven Dake (stdake) wrote: Cool thanks for the response. Appreciate it. I think the big take away is all the ODMs are free from churn in Newton and have a full cycle to adapt to the changes which is great news! Yes, that is absolutely the case. Best, -jay __

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [scheduler] Use ResourceProviderTags instead of ResourceClass?

2016-08-08 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/08/2016 06:14 AM, Chris Dent wrote: On Mon, 8 Aug 2016, Alex Xu wrote: Chris, thanks for the blog to explain your idea! It helps me understand your idea better. Thanks for reading it. As I think I've mentioned a few times I'm not really trying to sell the idea, just make sure it is clea

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-04 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/04/2016 06:40 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2016-08-04 18:14:46 -0400: On 08/04/2016 05:30 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2016-08-04 19:20:43 +: I disagree. I see glare as a superset of the needs of the image api and one f

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC][Heat][App-Catalog][Murano][Tacker] Glare as a new Project

2016-08-04 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/04/2016 05:30 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2016-08-04 19:20:43 +: I disagree. I see glare as a superset of the needs of the image api and one feature I need thats image related was specifically shot down as "the artefact api will solve that". You ha

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some thoughts on API microversions

2016-08-04 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/04/2016 01:17 PM, Chris Friesen wrote: On 08/04/2016 09:28 AM, Edward Leafe wrote: The idea that by specifying a distinct microversion would somehow guarantee an immutable behavior, though, is simply not the case. We discussed this at length at the midcycle regarding the dropping of the n

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] os-capabilities library created

2016-08-04 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/04/2016 10:31 AM, Jim Rollenhagen wrote: On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 07:47:37PM -0400, Jay Pipes wrote: Hi Novas and anyone interested in how to represent capabilities in a consistent fashion. I spent an hour creating a new os-capabilities Python library this evening: http://github.com

[openstack-dev] [nova] os-capabilities library created

2016-08-03 Thread Jay Pipes
Hi Novas and anyone interested in how to represent capabilities in a consistent fashion. I spent an hour creating a new os-capabilities Python library this evening: http://github.com/jaypipes/os-capabilities Please see the README for examples of how the library works and how I'm thinking of s

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does this api modification need Microversion?

2016-08-03 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/03/2016 10:03 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 8/2/2016 1:11 AM, han.ro...@zte.com.cn wrote: patchset url: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/334747/ Allow "revert_resize" to recover error instance after resize/migrate. When resize/migrate instance, if error occurs on source compute node, inst

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Nova compute reports the disk usage

2016-08-03 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/03/2016 04:35 AM, Tuan Luong wrote: Hi, When we try to add ephemeral disk in booting instance, as we know that it will create disk.local and the backing file in _/base. Both of them are referred to the ephemeral disk. When nova reports the disk usage of compute, does it count both of them

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [scheduler] Use ResourceProviderTags instead of ResourceClass?

2016-08-02 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/02/2016 08:19 AM, Alex Xu wrote: Chris have a thought about using ResourceClass to describe Capabilities with an infinite inventory. In the beginning we brain storming the idea of Tags, Tan Lin have same thought, but we say no very quickly, due to the ResourceClass is really about Quantitat

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] establishing project-wide goals

2016-08-02 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/02/2016 11:29 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Doug Hellmann wrote: [...] Likewise, what if the Manila project team decides they aren't interested in supporting Python 3.5 or a particular greenlet library du jour that has been mandated upon them? Is the only filesystem-as-a-service project going

Re: [openstack-dev] [Networking-vSphere]

2016-08-01 Thread Jay Pipes
ve several ideas how to improve vmware dvs and my question is can I full-fledged develop it or not? Of course you can! Only you need to propose these improvements to the upstream master branch first. Best, -jay On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Jay Pipes mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com>> wrot

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][ironic] A couple feature freeze exception requests

2016-08-01 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/01/2016 05:20 PM, Jim Rollenhagen wrote: Yes, I know this is stupid late for these. I'd like to request two exceptions to the non-priority feature freeze, for a couple of features in the Ironic driver. These were not requested at the normal time as I thought they were nowhere near ready.

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] establishing project-wide goals

2016-08-01 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/01/2016 08:33 AM, Sean Dague wrote: On 07/29/2016 04:55 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: One of the outcomes of the discussion at the leadership training session earlier this year was the idea that the TC should set some community-wide goals for accomplishing specific technical tasks to get the pr

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [RFC] ResourceProviderTags - Manage Capabilities with ResourceProvider

2016-08-01 Thread Jay Pipes
On 07/31/2016 10:03 PM, Alex Xu wrote: 2016-07-28 22:31 GMT+08:00 Jay Pipes mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com>>: On 07/20/2016 11:25 PM, Alex Xu wrote: One more for end users: Capabilities Discovery API, it should be 'GET /resource_providers/tags'. Or a pro

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic][nova] Indivisible Resource Providers

2016-07-29 Thread Jay Pipes
On 07/27/2016 10:48 AM, Sam Betts (sambetts) wrote: While discussing the proposal to add resource_class’ to Ironic nodes for interacting with the resource provider system in Nova with Jim on IRC, I voiced my concern about having a resource_class per node. My thoughts were that we could achieve th

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [placement] unresolved topics in resource providers/placement api

2016-07-29 Thread Jay Pipes
On 07/29/2016 04:45 PM, Chris Dent wrote: On Fri, 29 Jul 2016, Jay Pipes wrote: On 07/29/2016 02:31 PM, Chris Dent wrote: * resource_provider_aggregates as it was plus a new small aggregate id<->uuid mapping table. Yes, this. The integer ID values aren't relevant outside of th

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [placement] unresolved topics in resource providers/placement api

2016-07-29 Thread Jay Pipes
On 07/29/2016 02:31 PM, Chris Dent wrote: On Thu, 28 Jul 2016, Jay Pipes wrote: The decision at the mid-cycle was to add a new placement_sql_connection configuration option to the nova.conf. The default value would be None which would mean the code in nova/objects/resource_provider.py would

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] [nova] [neutron] get_all_bw_counters in the Ironic virt driver

2016-07-29 Thread Jay Pipes
On 07/28/2016 09:02 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: On 07/28/2016 05:40 PM, Brad Morgan wrote: I'd like to solicit some advice about potentially implementing get_all_bw_counters() in the Ironic virt driver. https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/driver.py#L438 Example Impleme

Re: [openstack-dev] FPGA as a dynamic nested resources

2016-07-28 Thread Jay Pipes
On 07/20/2016 05:07 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: For FPGA, I'd like to see an initial proposal that assumed the FPGA is pre-programmed & pre-divided into a fixed number of slots and simply deal with this. For the record, this is precisely what is described in the first version of the dynamic-

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