Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Adding hostId to metadata

2018-06-25 Thread Michael Still
We only bump the version if something has changed IIRC. I think bumping when nothing has changed would create a burden for implementers of client software. So its not like you get a chance to sneak this in "for free". Does this information really need to be available in the host OS? Its trivial

Re: [openstack-dev] [StarlingX] StarlingX code followup discussions

2018-05-23 Thread Michael Still
I think a good start would be a concrete list of the places you felt you needed to change upstream and the specific reasons for each that it wasn't done as part of the community. For example, I look at your nova fork and it has a "don't allow this call during an upgrade" decorator on many API

[openstack-dev] [All] A worked example of adding privsep to an OpenStack project

2018-05-07 Thread Michael Still
Hi, further to last week's example of how to add a new privsep'ed call in Nova, I thought I'd write up how to add privsep to a new OpenStack project. I've used Cinder in this worked example, but it really applies to any project which wants to do things with escalated permissions. The write up is

[openstack-dev] [nova] A short guide to adding privsep'ed methods in Nova

2018-05-03 Thread Michael Still
I was asked yesterday for a guide on how to write new escalated methods with oslo privsep, so I wrote up a blog post about it this morning. It might be useful to others here. http://www.madebymikal.com/how-to-make-a-privileged-call-with-oslo-privsep/ I intend to write up how to add privsep to a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] z/VM introducing a new config driveformat

2018-04-18 Thread Michael Still
I'm confused about the design of AE to be honest. Is there a good reason that this functionality couldn't be provided by cloud-init? I think there's a lot of cost in deviating from the industry standard, so the reasons to do so have to be really solid. I'm also a bit confused by what seems to be

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Deployers] Optional, platform specific, dependancies in requirements.txt

2018-04-12 Thread Michael Still
n.ibm.com > > Phone: +86-10-82451493 > > Address: 3/F Ring Building, ZhongGuanCun Software Park, Haidian > > District, Beijing 100193, PRC > > > > Inactive hide details for Matt Riedemann ---04/12/2018 08:46:25 AM---On > > 4/11/2018 5:09 PM, Michael Still wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] z/VM introducing a new config drive format

2018-04-11 Thread Michael Still
The more I think about it, the more I dislike how the proposed driver also "lies" about it using iso9660. That's definitely wrong: if CONF.config_drive_format in ['iso9660']: # cloud-init only support iso9660 and vfat, but in z/VM # implementation, can't link a

[openstack-dev] [Nova] z/VM introducing a new config drive format

2018-04-11 Thread Michael Still
Heya, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/527658 is a z/VM patch which introduces their support for config drive. They do this by attaching a tarball to the instance, having pretended in the nova code that it is an iso9660. This worries me. In the past we've been concerned about adding new

[openstack-dev] [Nova][Deployers] Optional, platform specific, dependancies in requirements.txt

2018-04-11 Thread Michael Still
Hi, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/523387 proposes adding a z/VM specific dependancy to nova's requirements.txt. When I objected the counter argument is that we have examples of windows specific dependancies (os-win) and powervm specific dependancies in that file already. I think perhaps all

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] pep8 failures on master

2018-04-03 Thread Michael Still
ell, <klmi...@mit.edu> wrote: > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 07:54 +1000, Michael Still wrote: > > Thanks to jichenjc for fixing the pep8 failures I was seeing on > > master. I'd decided they were specific to my local dev environment > > given no one else was seeing them. >

[openstack-dev] [nova] pep8 failures on master

2018-04-03 Thread Michael Still
Thanks to jichenjc for fixing the pep8 failures I was seeing on master. I'd decided they were specific to my local dev environment given no one else was seeing them. As I said in the patch that fixed the issue [1], I think its worth exploring how these got through the gate in the first place.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Tatu][Nova] Handling instance destruction

2018-03-18 Thread Michael Still
n Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 7:34 AM, Michael Still <mi...@stillhq.com> wrote: > >> Thanks for this. I read the README for the project after this and I do >> now realise you're using notifications for some of these events. >> >> I guess I'm still pondering if its reasonable to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Tatu][Nova] Handling instance destruction

2018-03-15 Thread Michael Still
er/tatu/notifications.py > > best, > Pino > > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 3:42 PM, Michael Still <mi...@stillhq.com> wrote: > >> Heya, >> >> I've just stumbled across Tatu and the design presentation [1], and I am >> wondering how you handle cleaning up in

[openstack-dev] [Tatu][Nova] Handling instance destruction

2018-03-15 Thread Michael Still
Heya, I've just stumbled across Tatu and the design presentation [1], and I am wondering how you handle cleaning up instances when they are deleted given that nova vendordata doesn't expose a "delete event". Specifically I'm wondering if we should add support for such an event to vendordata

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][Bifrost] Manually enrolling a node

2018-03-04 Thread Michael Still
e: > >> Try setting the ironic_log_dir variable to /var/log/ironic, or setting >> [default] log_dir to the same in ironic.conf. >> >> I'm surprised it's not logging to a file by default. >> >> Mark >> >> On 4 Mar 2018 8:33 p.m., "Micha

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][Bifrost] Manually enrolling a node

2018-03-04 Thread Michael Still
e to /var/log/ironic, or setting > [default] log_dir to the same in ironic.conf. > > I'm surprised it's not logging to a file by default. > > Mark > > On 4 Mar 2018 8:33 p.m., "Michael Still" <mi...@stillhq.com> wrote: > >> Ok, so I applied your patch an

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] vendordata plugin for freeIPA host enrollment

2018-03-04 Thread Michael Still
I was thinking about this the other day... How do you de-register instances from freeipa when the instance is deleted? Is there a missing feature in vendordata there that you need? Michael On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 2:01 AM, Rob Crittenden wrote: > Wanted to let you know I'm

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][Bifrost] Manually enrolling a node

2018-03-04 Thread Michael Still
cause the required management > and power interfaces were not enabled. The patch should address that but > please let us know if there are further issues. > Mark > > > On 4 Mar 2018 7:59 p.m., "Michael Still" <mi...@stillhq.com> wrote: > > Replying to a single email

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][Bifrost] Manually enrolling a node

2018-03-04 Thread Michael Still
Replying to a single email because I am lazier than you. I would have included logs, except /var/log/ironic on the bifrost machine is empty. There are entries in syslog, but nothing that seems related (its all periodic task kind of stuff). However, Mark is right. I had an /etc/ironic/ironic.conf

[openstack-dev] [Ironic][Bifrost] Manually enrolling a node

2018-03-04 Thread Michael Still
Heya, I've been playing with bifrost to help me manage some lab machines. I must say the install process was well documented and smooth, so that was a pleasure. Thanks! That said, I am struggling to get a working node enrolment. I'm resisting using the JSON file / ansible playbook approach,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Community Goals for Rocky -- privsep

2018-01-28 Thread Michael Still
Sorry for the slow reply, I've spent the last month camping in a tent and it was wonderful. The privsep transition isn't complete in Nova, but it was never intended to be in Queens. We did get further than we envisaged and its doable to finish off in Rocky. That said, I feel like we have a nice

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Switching to longer development cycles

2017-12-13 Thread Michael Still
Do we continue to support the previous two releases as stable branches? Doesn't that mean we double the amount of time we need to keep older CI setups around? Isn't that already a pain point for the stable teams? Michael On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 8:17 AM, Thierry Carrez

[openstack-dev] [Kolla][Kubernetes][Doomed] So close but yet so far

2017-11-30 Thread Michael Still
Hi, I'm out of my depth a little here. I've done the following: - installed kubernetes - followed the deploy guide for kolla-kubernetes [1] - except where I didn't because I had to fix it [2] I can download an openrc and even send a "nova boot" that looks like it works. However, I have this

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] Summary of ironic sessions from Sydney

2017-11-22 Thread Michael Still
Thanks for this summary. I'd say the cinder-booted IPA is definitely of interest to the operators I've met. Building new IPAs, especially when trying to iterate on what drivers are needed is a pain so being able to iterate faster would be very useful. That said, I guess this implies booting more

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Moving the virt_mkfs flags to privsep

2017-11-07 Thread Michael Still
That does work for me, except it means I'll still need to port it to privsep to hit my goal of no rootwrap in Queens. I can live with that. Michael On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Matt Riedemann <mriede...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 11/8/2017 12:24 PM, Michael Still wrote: > >>

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Moving the virt_mkfs flags to privsep

2017-11-07 Thread Michael Still
Hi, a really really long time ago (think 2011), we added support in Nova for configuring the mkfs commands that are run for new ephemeral disks using the virt_mkfs command. The current implementation is in nova/virt/disk/api.py for your reading pleasure. I'm battling a little with how to move

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Privsep transition state of play

2017-11-05 Thread Michael Still
On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Dan Smith wrote: > > I hope everyone travelling to the Sydney Summit is enjoying jet lag > > just as much as I normally do. Revenge is sweet! My big advice is that > > caffeine is your friend, and to not lick any of the wildlife. > > I wasn't

Re: [openstack-dev] [forum] Sydney Forum etherpad list

2017-11-02 Thread Michael Still
The privsep session doesn't appear to be in that list. Did it get dropped or something? Michael On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 12:04 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Etherpads for the Forum sessions in Sydney can be found here: > >

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Privsep transition state of play

2017-11-02 Thread Michael Still
Greetings, I hope everyone travelling to the Sydney Summit is enjoying jet lag just as much as I normally do. Revenge is sweet! My big advice is that caffeine is your friend, and to not lick any of the wildlife. On a more serious note, I want to give a checkpoint for the Nova privsep transition

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] key_pair update on rebuild (a whole lot of conversations)

2017-10-03 Thread Michael Still
I think new-keypair-on-rebuild makes sense for some forms of key rotation as well. For example, I've worked with a big data ironic customer who uses rebuild to deploy new OS images onto their ironic managed machines. Presumably if they wanted to do a keypair rotation they'd do it in a very similar

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Forum topics brainstorming

2017-09-28 Thread Michael Still
discuss anything in flight for Queens, what > we're working on, and have a chance to ask questions of operators/users for > feedback. For example, we plan to add vGPU support but it will be quite > simple to start, similar with volume multi-attach. > > 4. Michael Still had an item

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] reset key pair during rebuilding

2017-09-27 Thread Michael Still
One thing I'd like to explore is what the functional difference between a rebuild and a delete / create cycle is. With a rebuild you get to keep your IP I suppose, but that could also be true of floating IPs for a delete / create as well. Operationally, why would I want to inject a new keypair?

[openstack-dev] [Nova][Privsep] Heads up: privsep conversion for nova-compute

2017-09-22 Thread Michael Still
Hi, this email is a courtesy message to make sure you're all aware that at the PTG we decided to try to convert all of nova-compute to privsep for the Queens release. This will almost certainly have an impact on out of tree drivers, although I am hoping the fall out is minimal. A change like

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][nova][mogan] How to show respect to the original authors?

2017-09-20 Thread Michael Still
Dims, I'm not sure that's actually possible though. Many of these files have been through rewrites and developed over a large number of years. Listing all authors isn't practical. Given the horse has bolted on forking these files, I feel like a comment acknowledging the original source file is

Re: [openstack-dev] Minimum version of shred in our supported distros?

2017-08-21 Thread Michael Still
emann" <mriede...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 8/20/2017 1:11 AM, Michael Still wrote: > >> Specifically we could do something like this: >> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/495532 >> > > Sounds like we're OK with doing this in Queens given the other discussion >

Re: [openstack-dev] Minimum version of shred in our supported distros?

2017-08-20 Thread Michael Still
n, Aug 20, 2017 at 03:43:22PM +1000, Michael Still wrote: > > Hi, > > > > nova.virt.libvirt.storage.lvm.clear_volume() has a comment that we could > > use shred to zero out volumes efficiently if we could assume that shred > > 8.22 was in all our downstream distr

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] On idmapshift deprecation

2017-08-20 Thread Michael Still
I'm going to take the general silence on this as permission to remove the idmapshift binary from nova. You're welcome. Michael On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Michael Still <mi...@stillhq.com> wrote: > Hi. > > I'm working through the process of converting the libvirt

Re: [openstack-dev] Minimum version of shred in our supported distros?

2017-08-20 Thread Michael Still
Specifically we could do something like this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/495532 Michael On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Michael Still <mi...@stillhq.com> wrote: > Hi, > > nova.virt.libvirt.storage.lvm.clear_volume() has a comment that we could > use shred to zero out v

[openstack-dev] Minimum version of shred in our supported distros?

2017-08-19 Thread Michael Still
Hi, nova.virt.libvirt.storage.lvm.clear_volume() has a comment that we could use shred to zero out volumes efficiently if we could assume that shred 8.22 was in all our downstream distros [1]. shred 8.22 shipped in 2013 [2]. Can we assume that thing now? xenial appears to ship with 8.25 for

[openstack-dev] [Nova] On idmapshift deprecation

2017-07-28 Thread Michael Still
Hi. I'm working through the process of converting the libvirt driver in Nova to privsep with the assistance of Tony Breeds. For various reasons, I started with removing all the calls to the chown binary and am replacing them with privsep equivalents. You can see this work at:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Broken nova-lxd

2017-07-27 Thread Michael Still
Hi, I'm cc'ing openstack-dev because your email is the same as the comment you made on the relevant review, and I think getting visibility with the wider Nova team is a good idea. Unfortunately this is a risk of having an out of tree Nova driver, which has never been the recommended path for

Re: [openstack-dev] Is Routes==2.3.1 a binary only package or something?

2017-06-12 Thread Michael Still
Certainly removing the "--no-binary :all:" results in a build that builds. I'll test and see if it works todayish. Michael On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 9:56 PM, Chris Smart <m...@csmart.io> wrote: > On Mon, 12 Jun 2017, at 21:36, Michael Still wrote: > > The experiment

Re: [openstack-dev] Is Routes==2.3.1 a binary only package or something?

2017-06-12 Thread Michael Still
...@dague.net> wrote: > On 06/12/2017 04:29 AM, Michael Still wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying to explain this behaviour in stable/newton, which specifies > > Routes==2.3.1 in upper-constraints: > > > > $ pip install --no-binary :all: Routes==2.3.

[openstack-dev] Is Routes==2.3.1 a binary only package or something?

2017-06-12 Thread Michael Still
Hi, I'm trying to explain this behaviour in stable/newton, which specifies Routes==2.3.1 in upper-constraints: $ pip install --no-binary :all: Routes==2.3.1 ... Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement Routes==2.3.1 (from versions: 1.5, 1.5.1, 1.5.2, 1.6, 1.6.1, 1.6.2, 1.6.3,

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Deprecating localfs?

2017-06-07 Thread Michael Still
t; On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 08:26:44AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 8:58 PM, Daniel P. Berrange <berra...@redhat.com> > wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 02:27:52PM +0400, Roman Bogorodskiy wrote: > > >> Michael Still wrote: > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Would be possible to modify metadata when instance is in rescued state?

2017-05-09 Thread Michael Still
This sort of question comes up every six months or so it seems. The issue is that for config drive users we don't have a way of rebuilding all of the config drive (for example, the root password is gone). That's probably an issue for rescue because its presumably one of the things you might

Re: [openstack-dev] [networking-ovn] metadata agent implementation

2017-05-07 Thread Michael Still
It would be interesting for this to be built in a way where other endpoints could be added to the list that have extra headers added to them. For example, we could end up with something quite similar to EC2 IAMS if we could add headers on the way through for requests to OpenStack endpoints. Do

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Device tagging: rebuild config drive upon instance reboot to refresh metadata on it

2017-02-19 Thread Michael Still
Config drive over read-only NFS anyone? Michael On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 6:12 AM, Steve Gordon wrote: > - Original Message - > > From: "Artom Lifshitz" > > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" < >

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Device tagging: rebuild config drive upon instance reboot to refresh metadata on it

2017-02-17 Thread Michael Still
We have had this discussion several times in the past for other reasons. The reality is that some people will never deploy the metadata API, so I feel like we need a better solution than what we have now. However, I would consider it probably unsafe for the hypervisor to read the current config

Re: [openstack-dev] [All] IRC Mishaps

2017-02-08 Thread Michael Still
At a previous employer we had a policy that all passwords started with "/" because of the sheer number of times someone typed the root password into a public IRC channel. Michael On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: > On 02/08/2017 03:36 PM, Kendall Nelson

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] FFE for novajoin in TripleO's undercloud

2017-02-02 Thread Michael Still
What version of nova is tripleo using here? This wont work quite right if you're using Mitaka until https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427547/ lands and is released. Also, I didn't know novajoin existed and am pleased to have discovered it. Michael On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Juan Antonio

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] To rootwrap or piggyback privsep helpers?

2017-01-25 Thread Michael Still
I think #3 is the right call for now. The person we had working on privsep has left the company, and I don't have anyone I could get to work on this right now. Oh, and we're out of time. Michael On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: > The patch to add

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] python 3 tests hate my exception handling

2017-01-04 Thread Michael Still
Jan 3, 2017 19:29, "Matt Riedemann" <mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote: > > On 1/3/2017 8:48 PM, Michael Still wrote: > >> So... >> >> Our python3 tests hate [1] my exception handling for continued >> vendordata implementation [2]. >> >&

[openstack-dev] [Nova] python 3 tests hate my exception handling

2017-01-03 Thread Michael Still
So... Our python3 tests hate [1] my exception handling for continued vendordata implementation [2]. Basically, it goes a bit like this -- I need to move from using requests to keystoneauth1 for external vendordata requests. This is because we're adding support for sending keystone headers with

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][nova-docker] Time to retire nova-docker?

2016-12-29 Thread Michael Still
I'd be remiss if I didn't point out that the nova LXC driver is much better supported than the nova-docker driver. Michael On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Esra Celik wrote: > > Hi Sam, > > nova-lxc is not recommended in production [1]. And LXD is built on top of >

[openstack-dev] Retire the radar project?

2016-12-21 Thread Michael Still
Hi, radar was an antique effort to import some outside-OpenStack code that did CI reliability dashboarding. It was never really a thing, and has been abandoned over time. The last commit that wasn't part of a project wide change series was in January 2015. Does anyone object to me following the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Nominating Stephen Finucane for nova-core

2016-12-03 Thread Michael Still
+1, I'd value him on the team. Michael On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 2:22 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: > I'm proposing that we add Stephen Finucane to the nova-core team. Stephen > has been involved with nova for at least around a year now, maybe longer, > my ability to tell

Re: [openstack-dev] [new][nimble] New project: Nimble

2016-11-27 Thread Michael Still
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 4:37 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: [Snip] > > I don't see any compelling reason not to work with the Nova and Ironic > projects and add the functionality you wish to see in those respective > projects. > Jay, I agree and I don't. First off, I think improving

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] vendordata v2 ocata summit recap

2016-11-09 Thread Michael Still
This is a good summary, thanks. I finally uploaded the spec which describes the decisions from the summit. Its here: https://review.openstack.org/395959 Michael On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 7:11 AM, Matt Riedemann <mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote: > Michael Still led a session on c

[openstack-dev] Single day OpenStack conference in Canberra, Australia

2016-11-03 Thread Michael Still
Heya, I've been asked to let you all know about a single day OpenStack conference in Canberra that's coming up in a few weeks. The event is being run by the OpenStack Foundation along with the various meetup organizers. The conference is on Monday 14 November and has two tracks -- a management

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][solum] is solum-infra-guestagent an unmaintained project?

2016-10-28 Thread Michael Still
Doh, and I'd already done one cleanup patch against it. Michael On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 1:24 PM, Devdatta Kulkarni < kulkarni.devda...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Steve, > > Your observation is correct. > > Solum team had created solum-infra-guestagent repository to investigate > the idea of a build

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Propose to add FusionCompute driver to Nova

2016-10-13 Thread Michael Still
So, its good that you're working on third party CI, but I see that as a blocker before we can start this conversation -- we need to have a solid history there before we can do much. You also don't mention (that I can find) where the code to the driver is. Can I have a pointer to that please?

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][Nova] Expose trunk details over metadata API

2016-10-08 Thread Michael Still
There is a bit of a wish list of things people want in metadata for Ocata at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-nova-metadata-wishlist -- it might be worth adding your requirements and a link to your spec there? Michael On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 5:04 AM, Bence Romsics

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][keystone] auth for new metadata plugins

2016-09-01 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Adam Young <ayo...@redhat.com> wrote: > On 08/31/2016 07:56 AM, Michael Still wrote: > > There is a quick sketch of what a service account might look like at > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/363606/ -- I need to do some more > fiddling

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][keystone] auth for new metadata plugins

2016-08-31 Thread Michael Still
Riedemann <mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote: > On 8/30/2016 4:36 PM, Michael Still wrote: > >> Sorry for being slow on this one, I've been pulled into some internal >> things at work. >> >> So... Talking to Matt Riedemann just now, it seems like we should

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][keystone] auth for new metadata plugins

2016-08-30 Thread Michael Still
Sorry for being slow on this one, I've been pulled into some internal things at work. So... Talking to Matt Riedemann just now, it seems like we should continue to pass through the user authentication details when we have them to the plugin. The problem is what to do in the case where we do not

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Hold off on pushing new patches for config option cleanup

2016-08-22 Thread Michael Still
Its a shame so many are -2'ed. There is a lot there I could have merged yesterday if it wasn't for that. Michael On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 9:00 PM, Sean Dague <s...@dague.net> wrote: > On 08/22/2016 12:10 AM, Michael Still wrote: > >> So, if this is about preserving CI time, th

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Hold off on pushing new patches for config option cleanup

2016-08-21 Thread Michael Still
So, if this is about preserving CI time, then its cool for me to merge these on a US Sunday when the gate is otherwise idle, right? Michael On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 7:02 AM, Sean Dague <s...@dague.net> wrote: > On 08/18/2016 04:46 PM, Michael Still wrote: > > We're still ok with m

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Hold off on pushing new patches for config option cleanup

2016-08-18 Thread Michael Still
We're still ok with merging existing ones though? Michael On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 5:18 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: > Roger that. > > On 08/18/2016 11:48 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: > >> We have a lot of open changes for the centralize / cleanup config option >> work: >> >>

Re: [openstack-dev] Let's drop the postgresql gate job

2016-08-18 Thread Michael Still
On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 1:00 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: > It's that time of year again to talk about killing this job, at least from > the integrated gate (move it to experimental for people that care about > postgresql, or make it gating on a smaller subset of

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][ptl][tc] extra ATCs for newton

2016-08-10 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 7:38 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Michael Still's message of 2016-08-11 07:27:07 +1000: > > On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 7:12 AM, Doug Hellmann > > wrote: > > > > > Excerpts from Michael Still's message of 2016-08-11

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][ptl][tc] extra ATCs for newton

2016-08-10 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 7:12 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Michael Still's message of 2016-08-11 07:01:37 +1000: > > On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 2:24 AM, Doug Hellmann > > wrote: > > > > > It's time to make sure we have all of our active

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][ptl][tc] extra ATCs for newton

2016-08-10 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 2:24 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > It's time to make sure we have all of our active technical contributors > (ATCs) identified for Newton. > > Following the Foundation bylaws [1] and TC Charter [2], Project > teams should identify contributors who have

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

2016-07-27 Thread Michael Still
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Fox, Kevin M wrote: [snip] The issue is, as I see it, a parallel activity to one of the that is > currently accepted into the Big Tent, aka Containerized Deployment [snip] This seems to be the crux of the matter as best as I can tell. Is

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][all] Big tent? (Related to Plugins for all)

2016-07-18 Thread Michael Still
On 16 Jul 2016 1:27 PM, "Thomas Herve" wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Fox, Kevin M wrote: > > Some specific things: > > > > Magnum trying to not use Barbican as it adds an addition dependency. See the discussion on the devel mailing list for

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack] Naming polls - and some issues

2016-07-17 Thread Michael Still
So, is now a good time to mention that "Quamby" is the name of a local prison? Michael On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 7:50 PM, Eoghan Glynn wrote: > > > > (top posting on purpose) > > > > I have re-started the Q poll and am slowly adding all of you fine folks > > to it. Let's

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Vendordata improvements

2016-06-22 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Sean Dague <s...@dague.net> wrote: > On 06/22/2016 09:03 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: > > On 6/21/2016 12:53 AM, Michael Still wrote: > >> So, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317739 is basically done I think. > >> I'm after people's

[openstack-dev] [nova] Vendordata improvements

2016-06-20 Thread Michael Still
So, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317739 is basically done I think. I'm after people's thoughts on: - I need to do some more things, as described in the commit message. Are we ok with them being in later patches to get reviews moving on this? - I'm unsure what level of tempest testing makes

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Initial oslo.privsep conversion?

2016-06-09 Thread Michael Still
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 7:18 AM, Tony Breeds wrote: > On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 08:10:47PM -0500, Matt Riedemann wrote: > > > Agreed, but it's the worked example part that we don't have yet, > > chicken/egg. So we can drop the hammer on all new things until someone > does

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Initial oslo.privsep conversion?

2016-06-08 Thread Michael Still
+Angus On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 7:10 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: > While sitting in Angus' cross-project session on oslo.privsep at the > Austin summit I believe I had a conversation with myself in my head that > Nova should stop adding new rootwrap filters and anything

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Using image metadata to sanity check supplied authentication data at nova 'create' or 'recreate' time?

2016-06-06 Thread Michael Still
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 7:41 AM, Clif Houck wrote: > Hello all, > > At Rackspace we're running into an interesting problem: Consider a user > who boots an instance in Nova with an image which only supports SSH > public-key authentication, but the user doesn't provide a public

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Abandoned old code reviews

2016-05-27 Thread Michael Still
I've always done it manually by eyeballing the review, but the script is tempting. Thanks, Michael On 27 May 2016 8:42 PM, "Sean Dague" <s...@dague.net> wrote: > On 05/27/2016 05:36 AM, Michael Still wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've spent some time today aband

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Abandoned old code reviews

2016-05-27 Thread Michael Still
Hi, I've spent some time today abandoning old reviews from the Nova queue. Specifically, anything which hadn't been updated before February this year has been abandoned with a message like this: "This patch has been idle for a long time, so I am abandoning it to keep the review clean sane. If

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Xvisor support

2016-05-24 Thread Michael Still
On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 11:42 PM, Muneeb Ahmad wrote: > If not, can I add it's support? any ideas how can I do that? > > On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 10:23 PM, Muneeb Ahmad > wrote: > >> Hey guys, >> >> Does OpenStack support Xvisor? >> > So,

Re: [openstack-dev] config options: current state (R-21)

2016-05-09 Thread Michael Still
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 2:12 AM, Markus Zoeller wrote: > We're close to have all options moved to "nova/conf/". At the bottom > is a list of the remaining options and their open reviews. > > The documentation of the options in "nova/conf/" is done for ~ 150 > options. Which

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][live migration] Request to merge initial storage pool patches

2016-05-05 Thread Michael Still
On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 12:50 AM, Matthew Booth wrote: > I mentioned in the meeting last Tuesday that there are now 2 of us working > on the persistent storage metadata patches: myself and Diana Clarke. I've > also been talking to Paul Carlton today trying to work out how he

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Should be instance_dir in all nova compute node same ?

2016-05-03 Thread Michael Still
I can't think of a reason. In fact its a bit warty because we've changed the way we name the instance directories at least once. Its just how this code was written back in the day. Cleaning this up would be a fair bit of work though. Is it really worth the effort just so people can have different

Re: [openstack-dev] OpenStack's stackalytics is gummed up?

2016-05-03 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > Michael, > > The stackalytics bots do not have access to gerrit at the moment. We > noticed it last friday and talked to infra folks: > >

[openstack-dev] OpenStack's stackalytics is gummed up?

2016-05-03 Thread Michael Still
The instance of stackalytics run by the openstack-infra team seems to be gummed up. It alleges that the last time there was a nova code review was April 17, which seems... unlikely. Who looks after this thing so I can ping them gently? Thanks, Michael -- Rackspace Australia

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Libvirt version requirement

2016-05-02 Thread Michael Still
On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 10:27 PM, ZhiQiang Fan wrote: > Hi Nova cores, > > There is a spec[1] submitted to Telemetry project for Newton release, > mentioned that a new feature requires libvirt >= 1.3.4 , I'm not sure if > this will have bad impact to Nova service, so I open

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Newton midcycle planning

2016-04-13 Thread Michael Still
2 Apr 2016 08:54:17 +1000 From: Michael Still <mi...@stillhq.com> Reply-To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.or

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Removing Nova specifics from oslo.log

2016-04-12 Thread Michael Still
On 12 Apr 2016 12:19 AM, "Sean Dague" wrote: > > On 04/11/2016 10:08 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: > > On 04/11/2016 08:38 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: > > > >> There's a lot of assumption in oslo.log about Nova, such as talking > >> about "instance" and "context" in a lot of the code by

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Newton midcycle planning

2016-04-11 Thread Michael Still
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 6:49 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: > A few people have been asking about planning for the nova midcycle for > newton. Looking at the schedule [1] I'm thinking weeks R-15 or R-11 work > the best. R-14 is close to the US July 4th holiday, R-13 is

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][glance] Proposal to remove `nova image-*` commands from novaclient

2016-04-05 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 7:28 AM, Ian Cordasco <sigmaviru...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > -Original Message- > From: Michael Still <mi...@stillhq.com> > Reply: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) < > openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org&g

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][glance] Proposal to remove `nova image-*` commands from novaclient

2016-04-05 Thread Michael Still
As a recent newcomer to using our client libraries, my only real objection to this plan is that our client libraries as a mess [1][2]. The interfaces we expect users to use are quite different for basic things like initial auth between the various clients, and by introducing another library we

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Reminder to move implemented nova specs from mitaka

2016-03-19 Thread Michael Still
I normally do this in one big batch, but haven't had a chance yet. I'll do that later this week. Michael On 17 Mar 2016 7:50 AM, "Matt Riedemann" wrote: > Specs are proposed to the 'approved' subdirectory and when they are > completely implemented in launchpad (the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Proposal: Separate design summits from OpenStack conferences

2016-02-07 Thread Michael Still
On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 8:07 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: [snip] > Many contributors submit talks to speak at the conference part of an > OpenStack Summit because their company says it's the only way they will pay > for them to attend the design summit. This is, IMHO, a terrible

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Proposal: Separate design summits from OpenStack conferences

2016-02-07 Thread Michael Still
On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 1:51 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: [snip] > Fifth - if we do this, the real need for the mid-cycles we currently have > probably goes away since the summit week can be a legit wall-to-wall work > week. > [snip] Another reply to a specific point... I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] mid-cycle arrangements

2016-01-25 Thread Michael Still
I know its late to ask, but what is the parking situation at the office? Is driving reasonable as a plan or should be walk from the Holiday Inn? Michael On 25 Jan 2016 4:58 PM, "Murray, Paul (HP Cloud)" wrote: > See updated event detail information for the mid-cycle at: >

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Bulk Instance Delete support

2016-01-19 Thread Michael Still
Heya, I am not aware of anyone working on this. That said, its also not clear to me that this is actually a good idea. Why can't you just loop through the instances and delete them one at a time? Michael On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:08 AM, vishal yadav wrote: > Hey guys,

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