Re: [openstack-dev] [all] icehouse failure rates are somewhat catastrophic - who is actually maintaining it?

2014-10-07 Thread Dirk Müller
2014-10-02 14:19 GMT+02:00 Duncan Thomas duncan.tho...@gmail.com: Hi, What is actually needed is those who rely on the stable branch(es) existence need to step forward and dedicate resources to it. Putting the work on people not interested is just the same as killing them off, except slower,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] icehouse failure rates are somewhat catastrophic - who is actually maintaining it?

2014-10-07 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/10/14 22:25, Dirk Müller wrote: 2014-10-02 14:19 GMT+02:00 Duncan Thomas duncan.tho...@gmail.com: Hi, What is actually needed is those who rely on the stable branch(es) existence need to step forward and dedicate resources to it.

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] icehouse failure rates are somewhat catastrophic - who is actually maintaining it?

2014-10-02 Thread Adam Gandelman
The stable-maint team has been more active in the last couple months of keeping on top of stable branch specific gate breakage (usually identified by periodic job failures). We managed to flush a bunch of reviews through the gate over the last couple weeks [1] Yea, many required rechecks, but the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] icehouse failure rates are somewhat catastrophic - who is actually maintaining it?

2014-10-02 Thread Alan Pevec
The original idea was that these stable branches would be maintained by the distros, and that is clearly not happening if you look at the code review Stable branches are maintained by the _upstream_ stable-maint team[1] where most members might be from (two) distros but please note that all

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] icehouse failure rates are somewhat catastrophic - who is actually maintaining it?

2014-10-02 Thread Alan Pevec
I'm on retry #7 of modifying the tox.ini file in devstack. Which review# is that so I can have a look? Cheers, Alan ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] icehouse failure rates are somewhat catastrophic - who is actually maintaining it?

2014-10-02 Thread Dave Walker
On 2 Oct 2014 08:19, Alan Pevec ape...@gmail.com wrote: The original idea was that these stable branches would be maintained by the distros, and that is clearly not happening if you look at the code review Stable branches are maintained by the _upstream_ stable-maint team[1] where most

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] icehouse failure rates are somewhat catastrophic - who is actually maintaining it?

2014-10-02 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, I guess the following review is meant: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125075/ I went thru each of the failure for the patch (no dependency failures checked), and here are some damned lies (c) about those failures: - - bug 1323658: 2

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] icehouse failure rates are somewhat catastrophic - who is actually maintaining it?

2014-10-02 Thread Sean Dague
On 10/02/2014 04:47 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: Hi, I guess the following review is meant: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125075/ I went thru each of the failure for the patch (no dependency failures checked), and here are some damned lies (c) about those failures: - bug 1323658: 2

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] icehouse failure rates are somewhat catastrophic - who is actually maintaining it?

2014-10-02 Thread Thierry Carrez
Michael Still wrote: I agree with Sean here. The original idea was that these stable branches would be maintained by the distros, and that is clearly not happening if you look at the code review latency there. We need to sort that out before we even consider supporting a release for more

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] icehouse failure rates are somewhat catastrophic - who is actually maintaining it?

2014-10-02 Thread Sean Dague
On 10/02/2014 07:57 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Michael Still wrote: I agree with Sean here. The original idea was that these stable branches would be maintained by the distros, and that is clearly not happening if you look at the code review latency there. We need to sort that out before we

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] icehouse failure rates are somewhat catastrophic - who is actually maintaining it?

2014-10-02 Thread Thierry Carrez
Sean Dague wrote: If stable branches are important to the project, then stable branches need to be front and center in the weekly project meeting. Maintaining a thing is actually knowing the current status and working to make it better. FWIW, the current weekly meeting is no longer a general

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] icehouse failure rates are somewhat catastrophic - who is actually maintaining it?

2014-10-02 Thread Duncan Thomas
On 2 October 2014 12:57, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: As far as stable is concerned, the fix is relatively simple and has been proposed a while back: push responsibility of stable branch maintenance down at project-level. The current stable-maint team would become stable branch

[openstack-dev] [all] icehouse failure rates are somewhat catastrophic - who is actually maintaining it?

2014-10-01 Thread Sean Dague
As stable branches got discussed recently, I'm kind of curious who is actually stepping up to make icehouse able to pass tests in any real way. Because right now I've been trying to fix devstack icehouse so that icehouse requirements can be unblocked (and to land code that will reduce grenade

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] icehouse failure rates are somewhat catastrophic - who is actually maintaining it?

2014-10-01 Thread Morgan Fainberg
On Wednesday, October 1, 2014, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: As stable branches got discussed recently, I'm kind of curious who is actually stepping up to make icehouse able to pass tests in any real way. Because right now I've been trying to fix devstack icehouse so that icehouse

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] icehouse failure rates are somewhat catastrophic - who is actually maintaining it?

2014-10-01 Thread Ian Cordasco
On 10/1/14, 11:53 AM, Morgan Fainberg morgan.fainb...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, October 1, 2014, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: As stable branches got discussed recently, I'm kind of curious who is actually stepping up to make icehouse able to pass tests in any real way. Because right

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] icehouse failure rates are somewhat catastrophic - who is actually maintaining it?

2014-10-01 Thread Sean Dague
On 10/01/2014 04:46 PM, Ian Cordasco wrote: On 10/1/14, 11:53 AM, Morgan Fainberg morgan.fainb...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, October 1, 2014, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: As stable branches got discussed recently, I'm kind of curious who is actually stepping up to make icehouse

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] icehouse failure rates are somewhat catastrophic - who is actually maintaining it?

2014-10-01 Thread Michael Still
I agree with Sean here. The original idea was that these stable branches would be maintained by the distros, and that is clearly not happening if you look at the code review latency there. We need to sort that out before we even consider supporting a release for more than the one year we