Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-14 Thread GHANSHYAM MANN
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: > On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 09:45:44 -0400 > Jay Pipes wrote: > > > On 10/14/2014 12:52 AM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: > > > On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 22:20:32 -0400 > > > Jay Pipes wrote: > > > > > >> On 10/13/2014 07:11 PM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-14 Thread Alex Xu
On 2014年10月14日 21:57, Jay Pipes wrote: On 10/14/2014 05:04 AM, Alex Xu wrote: There is one reason to think about what projects *currently* do. When we choice which convention we want. For example, the CamelCase and snake_case, if the most project use snake_case, then choice snake_case style will

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-14 Thread Zhipeng Huang
Hi all, to my understanding we certainly don't want developers to arbitrarily extend APIs which would lead to a lot of mess, however we still need to find a way to standardize how we augment existing APIs since they are not perfect either. On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: >

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-14 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 14, 2014, at 6:00 PM, Lance Bragstad wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: > On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:29:34 -0500 > Lance Bragstad wrote: > > > I found a couple of free times available for a weekly meeting if > > people are interested: > > > > https://re

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-14 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 09:45:44 -0400 Jay Pipes wrote: > On 10/14/2014 12:52 AM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 22:20:32 -0400 > > Jay Pipes wrote: > > > >> On 10/13/2014 07:11 PM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: > >>> On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 10:52:26 -0400 > > And whilst I don't have a proble

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-14 Thread Lance Bragstad
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: > On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:29:34 -0500 > Lance Bragstad wrote: > > > I found a couple of free times available for a weekly meeting if > > people are interested: > > > > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128332/2 > > > > Not sure if a meeting

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-14 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:29:34 -0500 Lance Bragstad wrote: > I found a couple of free times available for a weekly meeting if > people are interested: > > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128332/2 > > Not sure if a meeting time has been hashed out already or not, and if > it has I'll change the p

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-14 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 09:57:01 -0400 Jay Pipes wrote: > On 10/14/2014 05:04 AM, Alex Xu wrote: > > There is one reason to think about what projects *currently* do. > > When we choice which convention we want. > > For example, the CamelCase and snake_case, if the most project use > > snake_case, then

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-14 Thread Ed Leafe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/14/2014 10:22 AM, Everett Toews wrote: >> I personally think proposing patches to an openstack-api repository is the >> most effective way to make those proposals. Etherpads and wiki pages are >> fine for dumping content, but IMO, we don't need

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-14 Thread Ian Cordasco
On 10/14/14, 10:22 AM, "Everett Toews" wrote: >On Oct 14, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: > >> I personally think proposing patches to an openstack-api repository is >>the most effective way to make those proposals. Etherpads and wiki pages >>are fine for dumping content, but IMO, we don't

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-14 Thread Lance Bragstad
I found a couple of free times available for a weekly meeting if people are interested: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128332/2 Not sure if a meeting time has been hashed out already or not, and if it has I'll change the patch accordingly. If not, we can iterate on possible meeting times in the

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-14 Thread Everett Toews
On Oct 14, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: > I personally think proposing patches to an openstack-api repository is the > most effective way to make those proposals. Etherpads and wiki pages are fine > for dumping content, but IMO, we don't need to dump content -- we already > have plenty o

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-14 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/14/2014 05:04 AM, Alex Xu wrote: There is one reason to think about what projects *currently* do. When we choice which convention we want. For example, the CamelCase and snake_case, if the most project use snake_case, then choice snake_case style will be the right. I would posit that the

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-14 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/14/2014 12:52 AM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 22:20:32 -0400 Jay Pipes wrote: On 10/13/2014 07:11 PM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 10:52:26 -0400 Jay Pipes wrote: On 10/10/2014 02:05 AM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: I agree with what you've written on the w

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-14 Thread Alex Xu
On 2014年10月14日 12:52, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 22:20:32 -0400 Jay Pipes wrote: On 10/13/2014 07:11 PM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 10:52:26 -0400 Jay Pipes wrote: On 10/10/2014 02:05 AM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: I agree with what you've written on the wik

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-14 Thread Thierry Carrez
Jay Pipes wrote: > On 10/13/2014 07:11 PM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: >> I guess we could also start fleshing out in the repo how we'll work in >> practice too (eg once the document is stable what process do we have >> for making changes - two +2's is probably not adequate for something >> like this).

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-13 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 05:27:21 +0200 "Ken'ichi Ohmichi" wrote: > 2014-10-13 16:52 GMT+02:00 Jay Pipes : > > On 10/10/2014 02:05 AM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: > >> > >> I agree with what you've written on the wiki page. I think our > >> priority needs to be to flesh out > >> https://wiki.openstack.org

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-13 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 22:20:32 -0400 Jay Pipes wrote: > On 10/13/2014 07:11 PM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 10:52:26 -0400 > > Jay Pipes wrote: > > > >> On 10/10/2014 02:05 AM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: > >>> I agree with what you've written on the wiki page. I think our > >>> pr

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-13 Thread Ken'ichi Ohmichi
2014-10-13 16:52 GMT+02:00 Jay Pipes : > On 10/10/2014 02:05 AM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: >> >> I agree with what you've written on the wiki page. I think our priority >> needs to be to flesh out >> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Proposed/APIGuidelines >> so we have something to referenc

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-13 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/13/2014 07:11 PM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 10:52:26 -0400 Jay Pipes wrote: On 10/10/2014 02:05 AM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: I agree with what you've written on the wiki page. I think our priority needs to be to flesh out https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Propo

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-13 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 10:52:26 -0400 Jay Pipes wrote: > On 10/10/2014 02:05 AM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: > > I agree with what you've written on the wiki page. I think our > > priority needs to be to flesh out > > https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Proposed/APIGuidelines > > so we have somet

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-13 Thread Thierry Carrez
Zhipeng Huang wrote: > THX for the link ! So we will have the workshop on Nov 3th at Meridien > Etoile Hotel? The workshops happen on the 4th (Tuesday). -- Thierry Carrez (ttx) ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://li

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-13 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/13/2014 11:10 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 10/10/2014 12:09 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: Thanks for getting this going, Everett! Comments inline... On 10/08/2014 07:05 PM, Everett Toews wrote: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/API_Working_Group This is the start of the API Working Group (API WG).

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-13 Thread Russell Bryant
On 10/10/2014 12:09 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: > Thanks for getting this going, Everett! Comments inline... > > On 10/08/2014 07:05 PM, Everett Toews wrote: >> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/API_Working_Group >> >> This is the start of the API Working Group (API WG). > > yay! :) > >> To avoid bike sh

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-13 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/10/2014 02:05 AM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: I agree with what you've written on the wiki page. I think our priority needs to be to flesh out https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Proposed/APIGuidelines so we have something to reference when reviewing specs. At the moment I see that docum

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-13 Thread Zhipeng Huang
Hi Thierry, THX for the link ! So we will have the workshop on Nov 3th at Meridien Etoile Hotel? On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Zhipeng Huang wrote: > > HI all, will we have a discussion on this issun at Paris Summit? > > I expect the API WG to propose API discussions

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-13 Thread Thierry Carrez
Zhipeng Huang wrote: > HI all, will we have a discussion on this issun at Paris Summit? I expect the API WG to propose API discussions within the "Cross-project workshops" track and get space granted to them. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-crossproject-summit-topics Cheers, -- Thierry C

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-12 Thread Zhipeng Huang
HI all, will we have a discussion on this issun at Paris Summit? On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 8:32 AM, Preston L. Bannister wrote: > Tricky. First, I am new to OpenStack, and as such tend to want to shut-up > and listen. > > Second, I have done APIs for distributed systems for over 30 years. Yes, I >

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-11 Thread Preston L. Bannister
Tricky. First, I am new to OpenStack, and as such tend to want to shut-up and listen. Second, I have done APIs for distributed systems for over 30 years. Yes, I got in very early. As such I am guilty of or saw lots of bad examples. Also I found patterns that worked very well. That said, the appro

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-11 Thread Jay Pipes
Thanks for getting this going, Everett! Comments inline... On 10/08/2014 07:05 PM, Everett Toews wrote: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/API_Working_Group This is the start of the API Working Group (API WG). yay! :) To avoid bike shedding over the name of the working group, I decided to titl

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group

2014-10-09 Thread Christopher Yeoh
Hi Everett, Great to see things moving with the API Working Group! On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Everett Toews wrote: > https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/API_Working_Group > > This is the start of the API Working Group (API WG). > > To avoid bike shedding over the name of the working group, I d