Re: [OS-webwork] more flexible property tag

2002-11-06 Thread Hani Suleiman
Again, that age old questionwhy? Why this hatred of the unloved and unappreciate if/iterator tags? What have they ever done to you? Quoting boxed [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've had a most enlightening conversation on irc recently. A friend of mine pointed out that property tag and iterator tag

Re: [OS-webwork] ui:hidden and ui:submit

2002-11-06 Thread Hani Suleiman
of people not familiar with WebWork. So a compromise would be to keep ww:property but add ww:push and ww:print. -Pat - Original Message - From: Hani Suleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:09 PM Subject: [OS-webwork] ui:hidden and ui:submit

RE: [OS-webwork] JIRA Issue WW-79: PropertyTag shouldn't print wh en id is sepcify [PATCH]

2002-11-07 Thread Hani Suleiman
+1 from me too Quoting Vedovato Paolo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: +1 to change the behaviour in 1.3 -Paolo -Original Message- From: Maurice C. Parker [mailto:maurice;vineyardenterprise.com] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 2:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] JIRA

Re: [OS-webwork] relative path tag

2002-11-07 Thread Hani Suleiman
You could have all your actions extend a base class, which has a getContextPath () method, or use request/contextPath Quoting Justen Stepka [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Morning, Currently I have the following in my JSP code... link rel=stylesheet type=text/css media=screen

[OS-webwork] Action reloading

2002-11-10 Thread Hani Suleiman
I've written a custom ActionFactory which reloads action dynamically. In effect, this means you can change the code for your actions, compile, and hit refresh and see the changes. I'd like to know if there's any interest in adding this to core webwork, knowing that it has a number of

[OS-webwork] Improved property tag....

2002-11-10 Thread Hani Suleiman
...documentation! I've just checked in new and enhanced documentation for PropertyTag, kindly submitted by Geoff Carruthers (who did put his money where his mouth is, as told, and wrote docs). I'd appreciate it others could have a look and provide feedback, since Geoff has said he's willing to

Re: [OS-webwork] Improved property tag....

2002-11-10 Thread Hani Suleiman
The docs are NOT original pulled out of thin air type docs. They're just a consolidation of what you, Mike, and various others have written. Feel free to plaster your name and credits wherever you feel is appropriate. In future I'll try to remember to discourage anyone who wants to write

Re: [OS-webwork] Improved property tag....

2002-11-11 Thread Hani Suleiman
: On Sunday, November 10, 2002, at 05:50 PM, Hani Suleiman wrote: ...documentation! LOL. What a loaded subject. :-) Hey, I was wondering what you guys thought about moving all the docs into the new Wiki, where it would be easier for people to update. They might stay more current that way

Re: [OS-webwork] Property tag (beating the decomposed horse)

2002-11-11 Thread Hani Suleiman
Excellent! A great way of ensuring nobody is able to use webwork without first going through lots of docs. Quoting boxed [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Attached to this email I have the code for the following tags: ContextTag, FocusTag, PopTag, PushTag and PrintTag. These do what PropertyTag does today

Re: [OS-webwork] Property tag (beating the decomposed horse)

2002-11-11 Thread Hani Suleiman
Exactly. I was being sarcastic Quoting Rickard Öberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hani Suleiman wrote: Excellent! A great way of ensuring nobody is able to use webwork without first going through lots of docs. But that seems to defy the idea of WebWork being easy to use, doesn't

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse)

2002-11-11 Thread Hani Suleiman
the current ever-so-transparent ww:property tag that everyone just understands without any explanation. -Original Message- From: Hani Suleiman [mailto:hani;formicary.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 7:34 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Property tag (beating the decomposed horse

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse)

2002-11-11 Thread Hani Suleiman
, but this this stubbornness is pretty sickening. -Pat - Original Message - From: Hani Suleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse) It's a different approach I suppose

Re: [OS-webwork] BeanUtils bug

2002-11-11 Thread Hani Suleiman
Good catch. Committed. Quoting boxed [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Index: BeanUtil.java === RCS file: /cvsroot/opensymphony/webwork/src/main/webwork/util/BeanUtil.java,v retrieving revision 1.29 diff -r1.29 BeanUtil.java 121c121

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Property tag (beating the decomposed horse)

2002-11-11 Thread Hani Suleiman
will listen to people, of if those in charge are just going to be doing what they please no matter what everyone else asks of them. -Pat - Original Message - From: Hani Suleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Re

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: the names of the three new tags

2002-11-12 Thread Hani Suleiman
How about just 'out' for print? To go along with out.println etc. On Tuesday, November 12, 2002, at 04:57 AM, Chris Miller wrote: I'm a little uncomfortable with the names as they currently stand too. Perhaps the 'context' tag could be renamed 'expose', and then 'focus' could become

Re: [OS-webwork] Calling all developers: Modules owners

2002-12-04 Thread Hani Suleiman
Eric would get my vote, as someone who has (so far) been able to resist from jumping in on any flamefests, and well as being able to maintain a civil and results-oriented approach. On Wednesday, December 4, 2002, at 05:04 PM, Erik Beeson wrote: I'd be happy to get more involved in the first

[OS-webwork] Re: [Opensymphony-developers] OpenSymphony build process

2002-12-17 Thread Hani Suleiman
this task on for each release, which is very rare. The added bonus of having a totally self-sustained CVS module is very appealing. -Pat - Original Message - From: Hani Suleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [Opensymphony

Re: [OS-webwork] So long

2003-01-04 Thread Hani Suleiman
N! The discussion on here has been VERY pleasant to see, a lot of smart things said and I felt that real progress was being made. Please ignore the idiots on IRC. It's a little boys club where if you don't want to play with them they pout and sulk. Don't make the mistake of assuming that

Re: [OS-webwork] XWork Interceptors

2003-01-09 Thread Hani Suleiman
I have to say, I really do think that adding tx on this level is a bad idea. For one thing, webwork is NOT a tx system, whatever it talks to should provide whatever tx support you require. Reinventing the wheel by handling the tx on this level seemsa waste of effort (vendors have already spent

Re: [OS-webwork] XWork Interceptors

2003-01-10 Thread Hani Suleiman
Quoting Rickard Öberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hani Suleiman wrote: Well, we're not talking about writing a tx system here, just providing the calls to begin/commit/rollback. And that's definitely a good idea to put here, especially if you're doing a straight servlets/db application, i.e

Re: [OS-webwork] Getting rid of thread locals

2003-01-11 Thread Hani Suleiman
Err, how is ThreadLocal servlet related? How would any of the context stuff work without it? On Saturday, January 11, 2003, at 03:56 AM, Patrick Lightbody wrote: In effort to ditch the servlet paradigm, any thoughts on changing ActionContext from being a ThreadLocal to just a normal Map? I've

Re: [OS-webwork] XWork: core concepts

2003-01-11 Thread Hani Suleiman
Making unnecessary changes, IMHO, is definitely 'making it unpleasant'. While I see that backward compatibility is too hard to keep (or so I'm told) given all that people want xwork to be, I really dislike the approach of change for changes sake. I deliberately avoided the very early versions

Re: [OS-webwork] Reflection

2003-01-12 Thread Hani Suleiman
On Sunday, January 12, 2003, at 08:24 AM, Rickard Öberg wrote: So, given all of this, my resignation from XWork still holds. The requirements that have been voiced the last few days are not mine, and I don't think they're compatible with my goals, at least not without serious compromises

Re: [OS-webwork] Slow performance using ww:iterator tag (version 1.2.1)?

2003-01-12 Thread Hani Suleiman
Only after the first try. I don't think slapping on oscache is the solution, as it just hides the performance problem (of course, adding oscache is always a good idea, but making that first hit faster would also be a good idea) On Sunday, January 12, 2003, at 06:00 PM, Mike Cannon-Brookes

[OS-webwork] Interceptor abuse

2003-01-13 Thread Hani Suleiman
Are interceptors really that different from filters? If they are very different, then I'm missing something and you can ignore the rest of this email... However, if they aren't that different, then I believe that they are few cases where a interceptor would be required instead of a filter.

Re: [OS-webwork] Interceptor abuse

2003-01-13 Thread Hani Suleiman
is a royal pain in the ass to define!) Mike On 13/1/03 10:45 PM, Hani Suleiman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) penned the words: Are interceptors really that different from filters? If they are very different, then I'm missing something and you can ignore the rest of this email... However

Re: [OS-webwork] Interceptor abuse

2003-01-13 Thread Hani Suleiman
Quoting Mike Cannon-Brookes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes, I do mean servlet filters. How the hell do they work outside the web environment mate? :) They don't! I want the ability to run some code before / after defined actions. That would be awesomely useful, for the reasons you mentioned

[OS-webwork] Action reloading

2003-01-16 Thread Hani Suleiman
For people using orion, or any other appserver that doesn't automatically reload non-servlet classes in WEB-INF/classes, I've written an action reloader that reloads action classes if they're modified. More details at: http://www.opensymphony.com:8668/space/fate Feedback appreciated! Hani

Re: [OS-webwork] URLTag changes in ww 1.3

2003-01-20 Thread Hani Suleiman
I think the default should be how it is now, since after the last change, people have on the whole adapter their code to the new behaviour. Quoting Dick Zetterberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Here is a suggestion for a change to the URLTag for 1.3. It uses a new attribute includeParams to determine

Re: [OS-webwork] Validation Framework (checked into Xwork)

2003-01-21 Thread Hani Suleiman
How would you handle i18n support, and parametrised messages? Eg, if you wanted '${0} is an invalid name' as your message Quoting Jason Carreira [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I checked a new validation framework into Xwork this morning that I got running last night. It's based on some ideas like runtime

Re: [OS-webwork] Action reloading

2003-01-22 Thread Hani Suleiman
PROTECTED]: Is there a way to get the actions.xml to reload too? Thanks, Justen Stepka - Original Message - From: Hani Suleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 3:58 PM Subject: [OS-webwork] Action reloading For people using orion

Re: [OS-webwork] Ognl: peek(), up(), and down()

2003-01-23 Thread Hani Suleiman
-1 This seems like an ugly hack, I think it's especially important at this stage of dev to make things as hack-free as possible. Wouldn't it be possible to talk to the ognl guys and get info from them on how to best support our syntax? Quoting Erik Beeson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Converting .. to

Re: [OS-webwork] Action reloading

2003-01-24 Thread Hani Suleiman
- Original Message - From: Hani Suleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Action reloading This does seem possibly currently by plugging in a bunch of custom *Configuration classes. I'll try and work

[OS-webwork] Configuration question

2003-01-27 Thread Hani Suleiman
Looking over the *Configuration framework, it looks like keys that aren't found result in a IllegalArgumentException being thrown. Now, the DelegatingConfiguration goes through all configurations when trying to find any named property. This means that there are a *lot* of getString calls to each

Re: [OS-webwork] Releasing 1.3 and new development

2003-01-28 Thread Hani Suleiman
I like webwork head cvs, and want to see it keep moving forward. We can tag a release (1.3) anytime now, really. Only thing that perhaps needs doing is updating some of the docs, and having decent release notes. xwork is still sandbox, and is nowhere near production worthy (right?) and I'd much

Re: [OS-webwork] Freemarker WAS Using SiteMesh for the UI tags

2003-01-28 Thread Hani Suleiman
On the contrary, that makes it perfect for OS! ;) Quoting Rickard Öberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Francois Beauregard wrote: A few developers here have used freemarker a little while ago and loved it. It seems to be a very good alternative to velocity. Since it worked for WebWork and after

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Freemarker WAS Using SiteMesh for the UI tags

2003-01-29 Thread Hani Suleiman
A flamewar wouldn't be complete without a few kindlings thrown in by me, so herw goes... Do you think I'm the only guy around who doesn't like it when people spread disinformation about him behind his back? Other than that, do you think that *I* have any interest in showing up on a webwork

Re: [OS-webwork] RE: Re: [Fwd: (Offtopic) Freemarker WAS Using SiteMesh for the UI tags]

2003-01-30 Thread Hani Suleiman
Alright. EVERYONE JUST IGNORE HIM. That way he gets to have the last word and will go away. I realise of course that he'll need to respond to this message, but after that, everyone resist the urge so we can bury this more embarassing than usual thread. On Thursday, January 30, 2003, at 01:52

Re: [OS-webwork] [WW2] new ServletRedirectResult feature

2003-02-08 Thread Hani Suleiman
Yep, very very useful On Sunday, February 9, 2003, at 01:15 AM, Mike Cannon-Brookes wrote: I think this is the best feature I've seen in WW2 - I would use it instantly in about 50 places :) -mike On 9/2/03 4:56 PM, Patrick Lightbody ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) penned the words: Just put in a dinky

Re: [OS-webwork] Webwork 2.0

2003-02-13 Thread Hani Suleiman
Can it be made to work with properties files (again, for those of us with huge internationalised apps), or does everything have to be moved to xml files? On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 10:41 PM, Jason Carreira wrote: I started building one. The consensus at the design meeting last week was

Re: [OS-webwork] Jasper Reports PDF Feature

2003-02-17 Thread Hani Suleiman
You need to add in some IE specific hacks to get IE to show the content using the acrobat plugin. One issue is that IE will send the request 3 times, and you need to determine which you should respond to with the actual pdf content. In the servlet, check the user-agent. If it's 'contype', then

Re: [OS-webwork] Action.xml Reloating

2003-02-17 Thread Hani Suleiman
what servlet engine are you using? It has only been tested under orion, and it relies on the servlet engine having a decent classloader impl. Also, where are your action classes? Are they under WEB-INF/classes, or somewhere else? On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 01:06 AM, Cameron Braid wrote:

Re: [OS-webwork] Programmatic configuration

2003-02-25 Thread Hani Suleiman
Eww, what a horrible name, ProgrammableConfiguration! How about ModifiableConfiguration? DynamicConfiguration? SettableConfiguration? On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 08:27 AM, Jason Carreira wrote: I checked in the first pass at programmatic configuration. The way it works is that any

[OS-webwork] (somewhat OT) velocity vs jsp

2003-03-12 Thread Hani Suleiman
Most people seem to be in agreement that velocity templates are at least an order of magnitude faster that jsp pages, which to me seems a bit...odd. So I was wondering if anyone has good (small) examples of this being the case. Webwork examples don't count as good examples because they involve

Re: [OS-webwork] (somewhat OT) velocity vs jsp

2003-03-13 Thread Hani Suleiman
Alright, so based on the feedback so far, the consensus seems to be: webwork jsp UI tags are much slower than velocity equivalents. So the culprit seems to be the webwork UI tags, not jsp itself. On Thursday, March 13, 2003, at 12:13 PM, boxed wrote: scriptlets will probably be almost as fast,

Re: [OS-webwork] (somewhat OT) velocity vs jsp

2003-03-13 Thread Hani Suleiman
(Map) iterating across the keyset and not the entryset, and few ugly parsing issue that make it hard to do webwork's funky loosely-typed syntax easily. Cheers, Scott Hani Suleiman wrote: Alright, so based on the feedback so far, the consensus seems to be: webwork jsp UI tags are much slower than

Re: [OS-webwork] FrameWork Details

2003-03-27 Thread Hani Suleiman
Uh, I realise this is a surprising suggestion...but did you try reading the docs? Crazy as it sounds, it might help. On Friday, March 28, 2003, at 06:20 AM, Hariharan wrote: Hi I would like to know in-depth about the Framework of Webwork.Pls explain about the Webwork Model Components.

Re: [OS-webwork] Configuration in /WEB-INF

2003-06-11 Thread Hani Suleiman
getRealPath is very bad, what's so wrong with servletContext.getResource() though? On Tuesday, June 10, 2003, at 06:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The hardest problem with that is that you can't use context.getRealPath() to get the location of WEB-INF in an unpacked war config (per servlet

Re: [OS-webwork] CVS Access for Cameron Braid

2003-06-17 Thread Hani Suleiman
+1 from me, based on him doing a lot of wiki docs for osworkflow. On Tuesday, June 17, 2003, at 09:52 PM, Pat Lightbody wrote: After going through a bunch of open issues in JIRA, I've noticed that Cameron Braid has provided a LOT of patches for XWork and WebWork. His involvement on the mailing

Re: [OS-webwork] Displaying a progress page

2003-06-26 Thread Hani Suleiman
Nor should you, to be honest. You're trying to jam a square peg into a round hole. Yes, you can get pretty far, but in the end, a user will get an email with a link, and will click on it and boom, their browser window with all your lovely javascript is now replaced. Or maybe the user gets

Re: [OS-webwork] WebWork2, here I come!

2003-07-01 Thread Hani Suleiman
On Tuesday, July 1, 2003, at 04:52 PM, Jason Carreira wrote: We're just glad to have you... Next we'll convert Matt Raible, then we'll teach Craig McClanahan the error of his ways... LOL All that'd be left to do after that is get him to drop the devil-spawn abomination sometimes knows as JSF,

Re: [OS-webwork] WebWork2, here I come!

2003-07-02 Thread Hani Suleiman
, to needlessly tie Actions to Xwork, when they can really just be POJO's with no-arg methods returning a String. Jason -Original Message- From: Hani Suleiman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 12:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] WebWork2, here I come! I

Re: [OS-webwork] WebWork2, here I come!

2003-07-02 Thread Hani Suleiman
justification, IMO, to needlessly tie Actions to Xwork, when they can really just be POJO's with no-arg methods returning a String. Jason -Original Message- From: Hani Suleiman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 12:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OS-webwork

Re: [OS-webwork] OpenSymphony site down?

2003-07-07 Thread Hani Suleiman
It seems to be down, along with the wiki and jira for opensymphony. Hopefully they'll all be restored in the next couple of days. However, I think this highlights one of the problems with having a wiki be the definitive source for documentation. Picture life a couple of months from now,

Re: [OS-webwork] Xwork IoC requirements

2003-07-11 Thread Hani Suleiman
Or just roll your own! On Friday, July 11, 2003, at 10:24 AM, Jason Carreira wrote: I'm starting a list of requirements for an IoC container in Xwork. Here's what I've got so far: 1) Ability to have nested component scopes (Application - HTTP Session - HTTP Request - Action Invocation) 2)

Re: [OS-webwork] Xwork IoC requirements

2003-07-11 Thread Hani Suleiman
, 2003, at 10:37 AM, Jason Carreira wrote: We already had our own... But should I take this as you volunteering? :-) -Original Message- From: Hani Suleiman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 10:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Xwork IoC requirements

Re: [OS-webwork] Sourceforge CVS down all the time?

2003-07-17 Thread Hani Suleiman
nothing to do with sourceforge Mathias Bogaert said: I'm sorry, *move*? Did we agree on that? Are we moving the entire OS site there? Mathias - Original Message - From: Hani Suleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 12:53 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork

Re: [OS-webwork] Sourceforge CVS down all the time?

2003-07-18 Thread Hani Suleiman
, Lars Mathias Bogaert said: I'm sorry, *move*? Did we agree on that? Are we moving the entire OS site there? Mathias - Original Message - From: Hani Suleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 12:53 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Sourceforge CVS down all

Re: [OS-webwork] Sourceforge CVS down all the time? [OFFTOPIC]

2003-07-18 Thread Hani Suleiman
Message - From: Hani Suleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 12:53 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Sourceforge CVS down all the time? It really is down that often. I've just moved the osworkflow CVS to java.net, oscache is moving in the next day or so too. Once

Re: [OS-webwork] WebWork2 / Xwork - ant test

2003-07-22 Thread Hani Suleiman
is junit.jar in anthome/lib? On Tuesday, July 22, 2003, at 10:41 PM, Cameron Braid wrote: I think I am having one of those damn I am so stuipd days.   I can't seem to get the ant test target to run for webwork or xwork.   It is so strange, because the junit jar is there ...   Running :   ant

Re: [OS-webwork] xdoclet module

2003-07-22 Thread Hani Suleiman
Argh! Am I the only one who finds this a bit...odd? The whole point of the validation framework is that it removes the validation from the code, and makes it a separate concern specified in an external xml file. Now this xdoclet module puts the validation right back in the source, with the

Re: [OS-webwork] xdoclet module

2003-07-23 Thread Hani Suleiman
Erik Hatcher said: Why folks need to make validation so dynamic I still have yet to understand. If my forms change, validation changes. They are intimately tied in the applications I've been working on. I certainly am not so close-minded to think that my apps are generically

Re: [OS-webwork] WW1.3 and WW2

2003-07-28 Thread Hani Suleiman
On the other hand, webwork has been heavily profiled and optimised, ww2 has not (and I expect a fully optimised release is probably not something that'll happen soon). Webwork1 is deployed in quite a few places, webwork2 is only deployed currently by its own developers. As Mike said, it all

[OS-webwork] Webwork 1.3

2003-08-04 Thread Hani Suleiman
To all non webwork2 junkies: Any objections to adding ui:hidden and ui:form tags to webwork 1.3? --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now.

Re: [OS-webwork] Jira alerts

2003-08-14 Thread Hani Suleiman
Please do. For those who care about seeing progress, I'm sure you care equally about every single commit. I'm ok with issue created coming to the list. I've done the same for oswf, although my reason there is that I'm not the lead developer, but more often than not am the person actually

RE: [OS-webwork] Jira alerts

2003-08-14 Thread Hani Suleiman
Hm, wouldn't a second mailing list make everyone happy? We can create one for x/webwork at java.net, and have jira cc that list on everything, would that be ok? Quoting Jason Carreira [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ok... If you guys don't think it's good, then we can shut it off... What about just

Re: [OS-webwork] Jira alerts

2003-08-14 Thread Hani Suleiman
+1 I was afraid of speaking up since I'm not involved with ww2 dev, but I've developed an automatic reflex to just delete any jira messages without reading them. The creation ones make sense, but if people want to know about a particular issue, they should just put a watch on it. Not everyone

Re: [OS-webwork] Simplicity of WW2 - Practical ideas

2003-08-17 Thread Hani Suleiman
Just to play the devil's advocate, people using full J2EE are unlikely to be huge xwork/webwork fans anyway. Unless of course you mean servlets/web containers, rather than J2EE. As surprising as it is, an app with xwork, webwork, lucene, hibernate, sitemesh, and oscache is not a

Re: [OS-webwork] Simplicity of WW2 - Practical ideas

2003-08-17 Thread Hani Suleiman
) that a J2EE app _must_ contain EJBs, JSPs etc. Either way (J2EE or not J2EE) people who use WW, XW, Lucene, Hibernate etc are used to XML files - that was my point. M On 18/8/03 10:37 AM, Hani Suleiman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) penned the words: Just to play the devil's advocate, people using full J2EE

Re: [OS-webwork] Simplicity of WW2 - Practical ideas

2003-08-17 Thread Hani Suleiman
, at 10:00 PM, Jason Carreira wrote: So who's building full J2EE apps without a web front end (at least for the adminsitration)? Even someone doing big batch processes needs to see how they're progressing sometimes... -Original Message- From: Hani Suleiman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

Re: [OS-webwork] XW/WW2 press release text for review

2003-08-18 Thread Hani Suleiman
1) I don't see the need to cuss webwork1. 2) The portlet sentence seems rather bizarre to me, a portal dispatcher? JSR-168 says very little about portals, so a portal dispatcher is certainly not self-explanatory, to me at any rate. 3) 'Two strategies for handling form submission' seems another

Re: [OS-webwork] XW/WW2 press release text for review

2003-08-18 Thread Hani Suleiman
On Monday, August 18, 2003, at 09:56 PM, Jason Carreira wrote: -Original Message- From: Hani Suleiman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] XW/WW2 press release text for review 1) I don't see the need to cuss

Re: [OS-webwork] Internacionalization logic

2003-08-21 Thread Hani Suleiman
What I do is have all my actions extend my own ActionSupport subclass. There you can override getTexts() with whatever mechanism you want (eg, use a different search mechanism, or get resources from a db, or whatever) Quoting Samuel Mota [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi guys, I'm pretty new to Webwork

Re: [OS-webwork] mailing list speed

2003-08-21 Thread Hani Suleiman
It's sourceforge, some marketing study probably determined that decent performance is undercutting their commercial offerings. On Thursday, August 21, 2003, at 11:51 PM, Francisco Hernandez wrote: is it me or does the mailing list take forever to send out emails? I send out emails to the list

Re: [OS-webwork] WW1.3: file upload question

2003-08-27 Thread Hani Suleiman
webwork.multipart.maxSize=5000 (for example) in your webwork.properties file James Pan said: Hello, The fileupload example for WW1.3 has an upper file-size limit of 2MB... is there a way for me to increase this?? I can't seem to find much info... Thank you, James

Re: [OS-webwork] Offtopic: need advice

2003-08-28 Thread Hani Suleiman
While we're throwing around biased opinions, I might as well toss mine in. If you're talented, you won't have any problems regardless of qualifications. If you're competing against someone equally skilled/experienced as someone armed with a CS degree, they'll win out just based on that. Of

Re: [OS-webwork] [JIRA-OS] Commented: (WW-271) Converter framework needs to be able to support plugable to String converters

2003-08-28 Thread Hani Suleiman
On behalf of all vaguely interested people who don't care about the nitty gritty on a day to basis...thankyouthankyouthankyou! ;) Pat Lightbody said: I'm turning off the jira notifications to the list... I just CANT keep up with all this traffic, and these notifications aren't helping,

RE: [OS-webwork] [JIRA-OS] Commented: (WW-271) Converter framework needs to be able to support plugable to String converters

2003-08-28 Thread Hani Suleiman
Yep, send all jira stuff to CVS list, that way everyone is happy. If an issue is 'mainstream' enough (design decision, future direction, etc) then it's discussed here. Jason Carreira said: How about if we send them to the CVS mailing list on java.net? -Original Message- From: Rene

RE: [OS-webwork] Re: Re: WW1's DefaultActionFactory

2003-09-17 Thread Hani Suleiman
To the original poster: Can you file an issue about this and mail me its number? It's a reasonable fix that makes life easier, even if it's socially unacceptable and apparently gives stomach cramps to inheritance-hating purists ;) Jason Carreira said: Whatever your feelings about Inheritance,

Re: [OS-webwork] Fwd: [Hibernate] JBoss welcomes Gavin and Hibernate

2003-09-17 Thread Hani Suleiman
Ohdear, poor Hibernate. Foolish Gavin. He seemed like such a nice guy when I met him too. Matthew E. Porter said: While we are on the topic of Hibernate.. Cheers, matthew Begin forwarded message: From: Bill Burke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:08:45 PM US/Central

Re: [OS-webwork] Which Mailing List

2003-09-21 Thread Hani Suleiman
All mailing lists are on sf.net. On Sunday, September 21, 2003, at 04:42 PM, Matthew E. Porter wrote: I don't know if this has been brought up, but which mailing list is the correct one for WW2 - sf.net or java.net? Cheers, matthew ---

Re: [OS-webwork] [JIRA-OS] Created: (WW-336) Iterator tags value attribute required

2003-10-06 Thread Hani Suleiman
ARGH! We've been over this before. Please do NOT have every new issue sent here, this is supposed to go to a separate cvs list for those who care. On Monday, October 6, 2003, at 05:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: A new issue has been created in JIRA.

RE: [OS-webwork] [JIRA-OS] Created: (WW-336) Iterator tags value attribute required

2003-10-06 Thread Hani Suleiman
everyone can see what the issues are and might see that they're not the only one seeing this... Only issue creation comes here now, more notifications go to the cvs list on dev.java.net. If others disagree, we can remove this list from all notifications. Jason -Original Message- From: Hani

Re: [OS-webwork] CVS problems

2003-10-06 Thread Hani Suleiman
Just apply for an observer role in the webwork project. On Monday, October 6, 2003, at 08:20 PM, Drew McAuliffe wrote: I'm having problems getting the latest from the new CVS repository. Neither the anoncvs or the guest/guest logins work. Does anyone have the valid guest account name, and can

Re: [OS-webwork] CVS problems

2003-10-06 Thread Hani Suleiman
, the project isn't going to grow very fast. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hani Suleiman Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 5:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] CVS problems Just apply for an observer role in the webwork project

Re: [OS-webwork] CVS problems

2003-10-06 Thread Hani Suleiman
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hani Suleiman Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 5:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] CVS problems You go to java.net, sign up, and apply for the observer role at the webwork project pages. People who run cvs should definitely NOT be users who are too

Re: [OS-webwork] Call for help

2003-10-09 Thread Hani Suleiman
We all do! Having said that, I think before testing our large applications with the various arm-twisting they do unto webwork to get things just right, a good starting point would be all the examples and tests that ww1 ships with Mike Cannon-Brookes said: Also, if anyone has some 1.3-based

Re: [OS-webwork] that keyword...

2003-10-17 Thread Hani Suleiman
On the bright side, Pat has promised (and in fact, already has it functional) to have the ww1 valuestack available. As soon as this is ready, you won't have to use ognl, and portage will be infinitely easier (not to mention that you'd no longer have to use a joke syntax!) On Friday, October

Re: [OS-webwork] webwork 1.3

2003-10-31 Thread Hani Suleiman
Sebastiano Pilla wrote: At 14.57 31/10/2003, Hani Suleiman wrote: I don't mind, of course... but now that you mention it, what's the status of WW 1.3.1? The OS Jira shows that 22 of 56 issues have been fixed for the 1.3.1 version, and several OS committers are currently much more focused

Re: [OS-webwork] webwork 1.3

2003-10-31 Thread Hani Suleiman
Scott Farquhar wrote: Hani Suleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote .. Fine by me. If possible - leaving the source in the current directory (even if it is main) would be best, so as to preserve the file's history. Yeah definitely, source won't move. I don't think that there are many testcases

Re: [OS-webwork] Exception handler proposal

2003-10-31 Thread Hani Suleiman
Err, why on earth would you want this in webwork? What's wrong with the exception handlers you can specify in web.xml, which work exactly as described below? On Oct 31, 2003, at 10:18 PM, Jason Carreira wrote: Nope... Interesting idea... Post a Jira issue for it... -Original Message-

[OS-webwork] Various fixes

2003-10-31 Thread Hani Suleiman
I've started on the cleanup of webwork 1.3 sources. if anyone is vaguely upset by any of this then please do speak up! This is what I've done so far: Moved all jars into directories under lib. We have lib/optional, lib/view, lib/core, and lib/build. I've removed the jasper report compilation

[OS-webwork] Old wounds!

2003-11-01 Thread Hani Suleiman
I don't mean to open up old wounds, but what exactly was the reasoning behind deprecating the *Aware in ww 1.3? Would anyone be terribly upset if they were undeprecated in 1.3.1? Does anyone care? --- This SF.net email is sponsored by:

Re: [OS-webwork] Old wounds!

2003-11-01 Thread Hani Suleiman
Alright then, it can stay deprecated. I'll close the bugs asking for it to be undeprecated in a day or two, provided nobody complains. On Nov 1, 2003, at 4:01 PM, Rickard Öberg wrote: Francisco Hernandez wrote: i believe it was suggested that everyone start using the ActionContext threadlocal

Re: [OS-webwork] Old wounds!

2003-11-01 Thread Hani Suleiman
Well, the deprecation serves as a marker to indicate 'this is not a recommended approach', sure it'll never go away (nothing deprecated in the JDK has gone away either), but it's still worth having in if the official line is that it's a discouraged set of interfaces. On Nov 1, 2003, at 5:15

Re: [OS-webwork] Old wounds!

2003-11-01 Thread Hani Suleiman
I thought there is a clear message there now. I'll go through and ensure it spells out exactly what should be used. On Nov 1, 2003, at 6:23 PM, Joseph Ottinger wrote: Maybe add somthing to the deprecation messages that suggest what you should be using instead? On Sat, 1 Nov 2003, Hani Suleiman

Re: [OS-webwork] Exception handler proposal

2003-11-02 Thread Hani Suleiman
Right on, reinventing wheels is fun for two kinds of people, the inventors, and those too blind to see existing wheels. On Nov 2, 2003, at 5:25 PM, Micha Mosiewicz wrote: [...] Then wouldn't it be the invoker's responsibility, rather than the framework's? I'd say that exceptions should be

Re: [OS-webwork] Change in exception handling suggestion

2003-11-03 Thread Hani Suleiman
Same argument from me as to why this is a bad approach in ww2. It's reinventing an existing wheel. Sure, it's maybe a bit more convenient to use than the built-in mechanism in the servlet container, but it's still stepping on its toes and making things that little bit murkier. Joseph Ottinger

Re: [OS-webwork] Change in exception handling suggestion

2003-11-03 Thread Hani Suleiman
James Cook wrote: I thought of a pointless insult. ;-) We used this pattern in a large application and it worked well. BTW, for Hani's edification (http://www.jroller.com/page/fate/20031029#opensymphony_dirty_laundry), this is not a toy application, but rather a large app that manages billions

Re: [OS-webwork] Re: Change in exception handling suggestion

2003-11-03 Thread Hani Suleiman
ExceptionAware! Chris Nokleberg wrote: Joseph Ottinger wrote: What I'd thought of was adding an extra method to Action and ActionSupport. The Action method's signature might look like this: public String handleException(Throwable t) throws Throwable; The ActionSupport implementation: public

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