you
>can
>> get bogged down when the kitchen sink has been tossed at you on the
>install
>> CD's. It can seem overwhelming.
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>> >From: "Les Ayudo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:28:58 -0800
I'm going to go ahead w/ the Oracle 8i course. I spoke w/ the course
instructor and he also advised me to take the 8i course because Oracle8i is
what is out there. So my question is:
Should I
t can seem overwhelming.
>
>
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> >Subject: Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?
> >Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 17:33:39 -0
University for Music and Performing Art
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> > > If its just the basic's I think 9i is actually easier than the older
> > > versions. For example using Undo Management instead of
he
> use of Rollback segments. Of course with Oracle (like most vendors) you
can
> get bogged down when the kitchen sink has been tossed at you on the
install
> CD's. It can seem overwhelming.
>
>
> >From: "Les Ayudo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Rep
s. It can seem overwhelming.
>
>
> >From: "Les Ayudo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?
> >Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 17:33
tossed at you on the install
CD's. It can seem overwhelming.
>From: "Les Ayudo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>Subject: Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?
>Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 17:33:3
stall
CD's. It can seem overwhelming.
From: "Les Ayudo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 17:33:39 -0800
Is 9i a lot more difficult to
ient that is using
it.
> Though going the 8i classes then upgrading to 9i does feel like a lot of
> work. Something I hate. :-)
>
> David Davis
> Manulife Financial
>
>
> >From: "Les Ayudo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >To: Mult
ent that is using it.
Though going the 8i classes then upgrading to 9i does feel like a lot of
work. Something I hate. :-)
David Davis
Manulife Financial
From: "Les Ayudo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECT
Thanks, that got me happy since I do have a couple years of windows
experience ;)
So now, i have 1 vote for oracle 8i and one for 9i. Any other opinions?
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> Les - Oh
Les - Oh you wanted the hard questions answered as well. Given that you
mentioned you were a MS sys admin, I'd say that would give you a leg up. A
lot of shops have combined DBA/Sys admins for MS. That might be your easiest
transition. I hate to say this, especially on this list, but you may want t
Thanks for the replies guys, I really appreciate it. Can i get some input
on these 2 questions:
What chances am I looking at to
> getting hired as a newbie DBA once I graduate?
>
> I want to get into the Ecommerce side of Oracle (connecting DBs to
> websites/portals?). Which certification/path s
Les - Here is an idea for you. Think up a trivial application for a
database. Maybe your home albums or DVDs. Try to make it a little
relational, like have an "artist" table. Force yourself to work with it. At
the right time I was secretary of a bowling league, so each year I rewrote a
league manag
Les,
If you have the self-discipline, another option is to sign up for Oracle
University's Professional Subscription. For $350/year, you can go through as
many of the offered courses as you want, and OCP preparation is one of the
options. The courses are self-paced and online, and each lesson h
Title: RE: Oracle 8i or 9i ?
I'm more of a windoz SA and have been working
with a little Unix here & there for hte past 2yrs (RH, Mandrake,
Solaris). What I really want to accomplish is to switch to Unix and
Databases. My goal is to use my certifcation as a way to get my foo
ndon Tiu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Les Ayudo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 7:50 AM
> Subject: Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?
>
>
> > 9i will cost you more in the long run because you have
School A (www.idtnetwork)which is offering the Oracle 9i cert will cost me
$3595 and does not include the tests. They told me they are an Oracle
University and they are the only ones (besides Oracle) that can give grant
Oracle 9i certs. Is this true? The classes they are offering are:
1Z0007 IN
Title: RE: Oracle 8i or 9i ?
The $3000 is true if he takes them through 'oracle' university but not if the local community college offers the classes.
What I did (and it seemed to work fine) for my 8i certification is to go to the community college bookstore and just buy the
Les - I think the demand isn't so good right now, but the whole tech field
is a little depressed. If you can tell a little more about your background,
we could help more, like whether this sounds like a logical next career step
for you. The demand varies a lot by the area of the country, so researc
9i will cost you more in the long run because you have to take 4 exams
at $150 each plus a $3000 course to get OCP.
8i then upgrade to 9i will cost you less but requires you to take up
to 6 exams at $150 each but no more $3000 course.
--
Lyndon Tiu
Quoting Les Ayudo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hel
I have many opinions on certifications... :). First and foremost, why
are you interested in studying Oracle? Is it for the money, or are you
truly interested in working with it? Do you have any experience?
If you aren't sure what you want to do, I suggest learning quite a bit
on your own befo
Les,
It depends on what version of Oracle Databases you will be working
with. You won't miss out on information going through the 9i Class
because they will go over features from 8i as well. They are
conclusive of features that have been available before 9i (as long as
they are still in 9i). T
Not to depress you, but at this time, in Florida the DBA job market is
dismal. The best way to move into a DBA job would be do it within your
current organization, i.e. move from developer/sys admin/etc. to DBA. It
would be difficult for an organization to hire a newbie DBA from the
outsid
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