Re: stripe the log file across different disks?

2003-01-09 Thread Ken Heng
Steve has an a detailed artical on his website http://www.ixora.com.au/tips/creation/online_log_files.htm Rgds, Ken Heng IBM GSA - Oracle DBA Level 32, 201 Elizabeth Street Sydney, NSW 2000 Phone: 02-9396 8298 Mobile : 0401-144 794 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RECORDLENGTH parameter in export...

2003-01-09 Thread BanarasiBabu Tippa
Hi gurus can you help.. I need to move one database from AIX to HP machine. Is there any significance for the RECORDLENGTH parameter at the time of export/import. I read somewhere it's important when operating systems are different.. thanks Banarasi Babu -Original Message- Sent: Frida

stripe the log file across different disks?

2003-01-09 Thread chao_ping
hi, friends: From many oracle tuning manual, I found words like stripe the redo log on different disks, this should boost redo performance. But according to my experience, every single redo write(this size should not be much larger than average transaction redo) is always quite sm

Re: v$sgastat question

2003-01-09 Thread Guang Mei
Hi, I am using neither MTS nor RMAN. I set the large_pool_size to zero now. I also set the java_pool_size to 32768 and it works in oracle 8173, although I seem to remember the minimum java_pool_size was 1M in oracle 805. Also I had ORA-04031 error during exp (in oracle 805) and I increased the

Re: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Arup Nanda
Huh!!! If the backup was made while the repository was in use for other backups, it may be in a logically inconsistent state from the RMAN perspective. That sent a shiver through the spine, Jared. I admit, I never tested the recovery of the RMAN repository and never (shame on me!) considered t

Re: v$sgastat question

2003-01-09 Thread Arup Nanda
Oracle needs some amount in java_pool_szie to startup; not sure how much. From: "BigP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: v$sgastat question Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 16:37:16 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received

RE: v$sgastat question

2003-01-09 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
It will default to 32k, even after setting it to 0 in init.ora file... (8.1.7.x) - Kirti -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 6:37 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Do you really need java pool ? If not get rid of it . set it to 0. - Original Message

Re: Determine max # of concurrent users at schema level

2003-01-09 Thread Charlie_Mengler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> desc v$license NameNull?Type --- SESSIONS_MAX NUMBER SESSIONS_WARNING NUMBER SESSIONS_CURRENT NUMBER SESSIONS_HIGHWATER

RE: v$sgastat question

2003-01-09 Thread Richard Ji
I don't think it's gonna make a big difference for him. He has 1mb. Setting java_pool_size to 0, Oracle will still allocate a minimum of 32k. Doesn't save a lot. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:37 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Do you really need java

RE: fnd_global user_id

2003-01-09 Thread Sony kristanto
Check your previllege ! > -Original Message- > From: Kader Ben [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 5:56 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: fnd_global user_id > > Hi Listers, > > I'm running concurrent program to create user (that's > ca

RE: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Steve - That was it. Thanks for the humor. Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 6:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Never heard of the q29_6 parameter. :-) Looks like excess glue spilled

Re: v$sgastat question

2003-01-09 Thread BigP
Do you really need java pool ? If not get rid of it . set it to 0. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:44 PM > Guang, > > Earlier I posted a response to check java pool and large pool parameters. > Any

RE: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Orr, Steve
Title: RE: RE : RMAN Repository Never heard of the q29_6 parameter.  :-) Looks like excess glue spilled during a cut and paste operation. -Original Message- From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 3:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list

Re: v$sgastat question

2003-01-09 Thread Arup Nanda
Guang, Earlier I posted a response to check java pool and large pool parameters. Any progress on that? Arup. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 3:15 PM > Then you should look into statspack and get a copy

ORA-29702: error occurred in Cluster Group Service operation

2003-01-09 Thread From
Hello all... I'm running 9iRAC 9.2.0.2 on Linux 2.4.20 kernel. This is based on the Oracle Linux+Firewire project: http://otn.oracle.com/tech/linux/open_source.html I'm getting the ORA-29702 during database create. Any ideas? Sean -- sqlplus, create database -- SQL> onnect / as sysdba; Conn

RE: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Orr, Steve
Title: RE: RE : RMAN Repository Hey Brian,   I only talk about the way it SHOULD be... not what I actually do.  :-)   I confess to presently using the suppository, er a repository but anticipate just using control files after we upgrade to 9i with its enhanced RMAN features. I have a shell

Re: lost control files

2003-01-09 Thread Gilles PARC
Hi , Some precisions : If you have ONLY LOST the controlfiles after a clean shutdown (normal or immediate) you can just : 1) startup nomount 2) recreate the controfiles (CREATE CONTROLFILE command) 3) open the database in NORESETLOGS mode. If you have ONLY LOST the controlfiles after a shutdown

Rman catalog error

2003-01-09 Thread BigP
when I try to create recovery catalog I am getting following error , I have 100M datafile for rman tablespace . what should be problem ? ORACLE error from recovery catalog database: ORA-01658: unable to create INITIAL extent for segment in tablespace RMAN Bp -- Please see the official ORAC

RE: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Orr, Steve
Title: RE: RE : RMAN Repository You can have a very large site and still do just fine without an RMAN repository. RE the "non-database solution," Oracle has already done that, it's called the controlfile. I tend to agree with Robert F. who "wrote the book" on RMAN where, in another post he wro

Re: lost control files

2003-01-09 Thread Arup Nanda
Jeff, You are right. It's still possible to create the controlfile by hand using the CREATE CONTROLFILE command. You can do, in fact you *have* to do incomplete recovery "recover database using backup controlfile until cancel" However, a BIG however, here; you MUST know all the file names th

Re: split mirror backups and alter system suspend

2003-01-09 Thread BigP
when are you going to put tablespaces back in normal mode . I think you should split the mirror and the put the tablespaces in normal mode . Its not required to to suspend the db prior to split .   disclaimer :   Just thoughts no real experience - Original Message - From:

Re: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Jared . Still
Hot backup of the repository is fine as long as you can be assured that all files needed for a complete recovery are going to be available. Recover a hot backup of an RMAN repository to another server using imcomplete recovery, ( your RMAN server burned to a crisp, drives and all ), and you may

RE: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Brian - You may want to be aware of the following parameter: q29_6There are several new features that are present in the Oracle8 control file, so that it is significantly changed from and larger than the Oracle7 control file. The Oracle8 control file stores information that is of use to RMAN. Some

split mirror backups and alter system suspend

2003-01-09 Thread Brooks, Russ
Hi,   We're getting ready to implement split mirror backups for the first time and wanted to check on what others are doing.  The thought was to put the tablespaces in backup mode, split the mirror, backup the mirror, and then resynch the drives.  The split mirror would be backed up using an

RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Jared . Still
I shutdown the database and backup the oracle directories. Jared "Jay Hostetter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/09/2003 12:54 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:RE

Re: Tru64 Direct I/O

2003-01-09 Thread Stephen Andert
Mike, Compaq SAN and Tru64 and direct I/O have been nothing but trouble in my recent experience. I put in over 35 hours over Christmas and last weekend working on recoveries of system crashes. Our problem appears to have been relating to the fact that several machines had mount points on disks

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2003-01-09 Thread Jesse, Rich
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fnd_global user_id

2003-01-09 Thread Kader Ben
Hi Listers, I'm running concurrent program to create user (that's call fnd_user_pkg.CreateUser procedure) on 11i but the program fails because the fnd_global.user_id return -1! Can someone help me how resolve this problem? Thanks you so much, Ben

Re: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Arup Nanda
The database containing RMAN repository does not need to be up 100%, only when the backup is going on restoring. Therefore, in many sites, DBAs can actually shutdown the database and take cold backup, just for convenience sake, if not anything else. Jared wanted to know if anybody used hot backup f

RE: split mirror backups and alter system suspend

2003-01-09 Thread Richard Ji
1/2.  Not necessarily.  You only need to suspend database if your hardware won't let you split the mirror without    suspending IO.  I worked on EMC which doesn't require that.  So all you need to do is put tablespaces into    backup mode, split the mirror and end backup mode. 3.   Applicat

Re: Determine max # of concurrent users at schema level

2003-01-09 Thread Arup Nanda
Rick, There is no such view, but can be very simply obtained by turning on auditing and placing auditing for connects for user. Later you can aanalyze the connects and disconnects in a given time period to get max concurrent access. HTH. Arup Nanda - Original Message - To: "Multiple reci

RE: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Jesse, Rich
Not having used RMAN since it's inception, I'm a little confused. Why couldn't you backup the DB hot, provided it wasn't using RMAN or at least that repository? Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex

RE: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Spears, Brian
Title: RE: RE : RMAN Repository I agree Steve, and thanks for the info.  Do you have any procedures to cover backup logic holes if you have to rebuild the controlfile for some reason (Ie.. maximum files reached etc) Do you accept losing the backup history and cross fingers or ... have pro

Re: Which session is killing performance?

2003-01-09 Thread Igor Neyman
True, but how you associate thread# in PerformanceMonitore with Oracle's spid? Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 3:59 PM > > I believe you can if you use performan

Question about a session error with 9iRAC

2003-01-09 Thread Loughmiller, Greg
Have any of you all seen this error-and really understand what causes this type of situation? The scenario is where we have several sessions up and running; and a couple will get this error when we try to use the TAF functionality while ripping the legs out from underneath an Orale instance

Re: Determine max # of concurrent users at schema level

2003-01-09 Thread Rick_Cale
Yeah that's what I thought. Thanks Stephane Farou

Re: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Arup Nanda
Jared, I do. Actually, I back up the "other" master in the multi-master setup, in order to reduce load on the main database. But now that you have asked the question, I am beginning to wonder why I ever thought of that. Restoring will not restore the untransmitted transactions (it's asynch replica

Re: Which session is killing performance?

2003-01-09 Thread Rick_Cale
I believe you can if you use performance monitor and chart by thread. Rick "Igor Neyman"

Re: Determine max # of concurrent users at schema level

2003-01-09 Thread Stephane Faroult
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi All, > > V$LICENSE will show max # of concurrent users since instance startup. Is > there another view or something to determine max # of concurrent sessions > for > each schema? > > Thanks > Rick > AUDIT on connections, and good ol' SQL ... -- Regards, Step

RE: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Brian - Not disputing that at all. I even enjoy it when I had some spare time to sit down and do just that. But why create and maintain something when Oracle offers it built-in. I can even envision a manager saying "I paid you for WHAT?? We'll consider that time as counting against your vacation".

RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Jay Hostetter
Is it an old fashioned backup (non-rman)? I export our rman repository and ftp the .dmp file to another server. Jay >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/09/03 03:30PM >>> I do a cold backup of my repository daily. Replication of it is not a bad idea, as Arup mentioned, though I haven't tried it myself.

Tru64 Direct I/O

2003-01-09 Thread Hand, Michael T
Title: Message OK, everything I've read so far on using Direct I/O with an Oracle database says it's a bad idea.  Either performance problems or block corruption may occur.  The notes on metalink (132391.1) refer to Tru64 5.0A and 5.1 but not 5.1A (to which we've recently upgraded).  So is a

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2003-01-09 Thread dgoulet
Ruth, That's "Jack Sh&^". Dick Goulet Reply Separator Author: "Ruth Gramolini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 1/9/2003 11:19 AM I thought that was Jack. Maybe you don't know Jack. Ruth - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list OR

Re: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Jared . Still
I do a cold backup of my repository daily. Replication of it is not a bad idea, as Arup mentioned, though I haven't tried it myself. Speaking of backing up the RMAN repository, does anyone back them up hot? Seems to me that would not be a good idea. Jared "Ruth Gramolini" <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: lost control files

2003-01-09 Thread David L Phillips
Umm I'll have to apologize for thinking too quick and letting my inner child do the typing. I haven't had to do a manual create of a control file yet (and hope not to). My paranoia would not allow me to not have a backup control file and init.ora file etc around. If you have multiple instances of t

RE: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Spears, Brian
You can make up a universal script that logs into each an gets the appropriate info. Just takes a little thinking -its a little more time but can be done. Brian -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Gene - I would think yo

Re: lost control files

2003-01-09 Thread Jeff Herrick
Wrong...I _think_ :) If he rebuilds them using the correct file placements then it will work. The only problem is that he will have to open RESETLOGS and incomplete recovery will be impossible. But if he has all of his datafiles and is only missing control files then he can startup nomount and cr

Determine max # of concurrent users at schema level

2003-01-09 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi All, V$LICENSE will show max # of concurrent users since instance startup. Is there another view or something to determine max # of concurrent sessions for each schema? Thanks Rick -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat Ci

RE: v$sgastat question

2003-01-09 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Guang - If you're not familiar with it, go to http://www.hotsos.com/ and get Mogens Norgaard's paper, Introducing the V$ Wait Interface. Where is the database spending it's time? What's the bottleneck? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:05 PM To: Multiple recipients

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RE: v$sgastat question

2003-01-09 Thread Richard Ji
Then you should look into statspack and get a copy of "Oracle Performance Tuning 101". -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:05 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi: My objective is to see if there is anything that I can change on db setting to increase the pe

RE: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Gene - I would think your site would be just what the repository was designed for. You could use a single repository for all 25 databases. Then each day you could execute a simple query and receive an exception report that tells you any backup vulnerabilities for any of the 25 systems. Without the

RE: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Gene Sais
Robert - Thank you!  I will go with the KISS principle anytime. Gene>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/09/03 11:45AM >>> I actually find the repository of little use. If I have an enterprise with many databases then I will use it for reporting but that's about it. It just seems to complicate the overal

Re: Which session is killing performance?

2003-01-09 Thread Igor Neyman
Ference, Oracle on Windows runs as one multithreaded process, so you wouldn't get specific session id sorting list of processes by CPU. Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 09,

RE: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Steve - My theory is that if your site is sufficiently large to be worth considering an RMAN catalog configuration, then you can easily find a location for it. For us, that was easily solved. If Oracle had created a non-database solution, then that would have become a development project all its ow

Re: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Ruth Gramolini
I like using a repository because I hate to document. Every is there for the asking. Ruth - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:49 PM > Paula, i like it and the respository, cause its just my anal- > retenti

Re: lost control files

2003-01-09 Thread David L Phillips
No. It would be like getting amnesia and just using the memories of someone that looks like you. The data stored in the control files is unique to that database. It contains location of files, database name, recovery info etc.     David L Phillips Database Consultant (8i OCP) Digital Concep

v$sgastat question

2003-01-09 Thread Guang Mei
Hi: My objective is to see if there is anything that I can change on db setting to increase the performance, without modifying application code (BTW, we already looked at all application code at least 5 times and would like to see if our db setting is good). Guang -Original Message- D

RE: External LDAP Server supported by Oracle

2003-01-09 Thread Jesse, Rich
OID is the *ONLY* LDAP solution certified for use by Oracle software. However, they do seem to support some sort of "replication" between OID and other LDAPs. For example, if you want to use SunOne for Oracle names resolution (as opposed to TNSNAMES.ORA or ONAMES) you will still need to have OID i

Re: lost control files

2003-01-09 Thread BigP
But if u look at the control file dump script . It doesn't say anything about creation date or scn or anything .  All it has is list of datafiles , logfiles .. etc. If my other db on another server is layed out exactly same . wny can't I use that control file , just change db name .   -Bp  

Re: lost control files

2003-01-09 Thread Stephane Faroult
> BigP wrote: > > > > > If I loose all my control files can I restore them by using create > control file dump from a similer database . > > > IMHO it is safer to do a manual 'create control file'. Similarity is always just up to a point and gives you a false sense of security. And BTW if y

RE: Which session is killing performance?

2003-01-09 Thread mantfield
Since you are on Weenie-doze: go to task manager (3 finger salute [alt+ctrl+delete]), and order by CPU descending, then look at the PID, make a note of it, and run this script, entering the PID: column log_tim format a18 col username format a12 col osuser for a12 set linesize 132 set verify off

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2003-01-09 Thread Ruth Gramolini
I thought that was Jack. Maybe you don't know Jack. Ruth - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:44 PM > For those not familiar with American Slang, saying "You don't know dick." > means "You don't know anythi

Re: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Ruth Gramolini
The earlly versions of rman suggested that you put a 2nd recovery catalog in one of the databases you are using the "real" recovery catalog for. Then you use this to record the backups of the recovery catalog database. I never headed this advice, altho I do use a recovery catalog for all produc

RE: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Joseph S Testa
Paula, i like it and the respository, cause its just my anal- retentiveness coming out about having 2 places to easily be able to recover(the repository and control file). joe > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand > this format, some or all of this messag

Re: lost control files

2003-01-09 Thread Igor Neyman
If you have good enough information about all your database files.   Igor Neyman, OCP DBA[EMAIL PROTECTED]      - Original Message - From: BigP To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:18 PM Subject: lost control files  

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For those not familiar with American Slang, saying "You don't know dick." means "You don't know anything." It was a pun I just could not resist... -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:06 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L The first time I read this it did not

Re: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Igor Neyman
Title: RE: RE : RMAN Repository >If I need a database to backup a database then do I need another database to backup the database that backed up the original database?   Exactly my thoughts.   Igor Neyman, OCP DBA[EMAIL PROTECTED]      - Original Message - From: Orr, Steve

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lost control files

2003-01-09 Thread BigP
      If I loose all my control files can I restore them by using create control file dump from a similer database .      

RE: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Orr, Steve
Title: RE: RE : RMAN Repository Yeah but do you have to pay for another Veritas NetBackup license and server to backup the catalog? If just have one database server and one database license why should I have to buy another license and install another 1-2GB of Oracle software on another server?

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Re: Re_ Performance Issue on 817 !!!

2003-01-09 Thread Jared . Still
* Leftover DLL's that can cause problems * The directory structure is not Win2k * I don't know what else, I trust my SA's judgement. :) Jared "Jackson Dumas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/09/2003 12:03 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipient

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2003-01-09 Thread Jared . Still
Thanks, no problem. :) Rachel Carmichael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/09/2003 07:28 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:to subscribe to the ot list I have been

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2003-01-09 Thread Jared . Still
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RE: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Jared . Still
> The overhead of the repository database is more. With the initial releases of RMAN (EBU) Oracle was rightly > criticized for the fact that you had to backup the database that holds information about the database you want to backup. > Getting rid of this silliness seems reasonable to me. Why

RE: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Gene Sais
Dennis - I am now running 8.1.6 & 8.1.7 w/out RMAN, soon to upgrade to 9.2 then implement RMAN.  I have 25 db instances.  I am thinking of using RMAN w/out a repository unless there are great reasons not to :) Gene>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/09/03 11:24AM >>>Gene - Which Oracle version(s)? How

RE: RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
Actually for recovery of the control file, you have to be in nomount mode. RMAN will connect to a database as long as the instance is up. So, to recover from square one you need to get the instance runninng. In 9i, it's generally possible to start an instance without even a parameter file, which i

RE: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
Title: RE: RE : RMAN Repository The only things you can't do with controlfile RMAN/database metadata is: 1) use previous "incarnations" of the database for recovery; Actually, you can, it's just a manual process. This is documented in the RMAN book. Also, in 9i you can do automated backup/

Re: Which session is killing performance?

2003-01-09 Thread Jonathan Lewis
One simple, and often helpful, option is to query v$sess_io Structure: sid, block_gets, consistent_gets, physical_reads, block_changes, consistent_changes Look for any big numbers - if they are in physical_reads, the user may have been hammering the filesystem, the other figure

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RE: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Paula_Stankus
Title: RE: RE : RMAN Repository I find it useful for organizing and keeping track of my backups so that during recovery it is as simple as running pre-scripted queries to see what I have available - geez am I the only one who likes RMAN and doesn't think it makes things that difficult - really

RE: RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Thanks Robert. I just checked your Oracle9i RMAN book and yes you do provide the steps to recover the control file from the RMAN backup. I can see the step I missed when I previously tried it myself. Thanks for mentioning that. Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

RE: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
I actually find the repository of little use. If I have an enterprise with many databases then I will use it for reporting but that's about it. It just seems to complicate the overall administrative costs and thus, the burden/benefit ratio is not all that good.   RF   Robert G. FreemanTechni

RE: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Brian McGraw
I hadn’t heard that the repository was going away.    I did hear, however, at the IOUG meeting last year, that the reporting mechanisms were going to be significantly enhanced, putting it on par with the repository-based reporting.  That came directly from one of the Oracle RMAN strateg

Using no rman repository for rman recoveries

2003-01-09 Thread Spears, Brian
Robert.. Using controlfile only recoveries...(not using catalog) We have people spouting that we should only use controlfile recoveries with RMAN because an Oracle instructor said so and said this is the future direction... I would love to do it..but what if I

RE: RMAN on NT

2003-01-09 Thread Spears, Brian
Title: Message Robert, I am scanning through your book now for the tape write error code and I don't see it. I look at the documentation    and I cant tell which will arise due to the bad tape error. I am on the tail end of implementing RMAN on HP and    trying to write some

Re: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Joseph S Testa
Gene, i consider it a good redundancy method for recovery. put the repository on a 24x7 machine, that way if you lose all of the controlfiles you can still easily restore/recover. my 2 cents worth. joe > This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to > consider changin

RE: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Orr, Steve
Title: RE: RE : RMAN Repository If you aren't using a repository all you have to do is make sure control file backups are part of the routine. There are 2 ways to backup the backup metadata: 1) the RMAN repository database; 2) backup controlfiles. Functionally and operationally they're prett

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2003-01-09 Thread KENNETH JANUSZ
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RE: Orawomen

2003-01-09 Thread Brian Dunbar
Title: Message "manual"??   Details?   -Original Message-From: Spears, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:04 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Orawomen The public education is so pathetic... I took the mannual produced by US

Re: RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Ruth Gramolini
One question, don't you have to have the database in no mount state to recover the controlfile in 8i? You do in 8.0.x. Ruth - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:24 AM > 9i Offers automated recovery of the

RE: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Gene - Which Oracle version(s)? How many instances will you be backing up? Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:50 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Interesting thread, since I am just embarki

RE: Orawomen

2003-01-09 Thread Jesse, Rich
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RE: Which session is killing performance?

2003-01-09 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: Which session is killing performance? HI Craig, try these scripts set linesize 200 column username format a15 column idle format a10 column machine format a22 column terminal format a15 column program format a15 select  sid,     serial#,     username, --  process,   

RE: Query optimization

2003-01-09 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: Query optimization Have you tried NO_EXPAND? Lisa Koivu Oracle Database Administrator Fairfield Resorts, Inc. 5259 Coconut Creek Parkway Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA  33063 -Original Message- From: Krishnaswamy, Ranganath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 0

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RE: Oracle DBA Profession hard?

2003-01-09 Thread Whittle Jerome Contr NCI
Title: RE: Oracle DBA Profession hard? Hard? Ha! Before getting into computers, I was an aircraft mechanic for 24 years. Nothing like changing 250 pound wheel and tire assemblies (12 was my record) on midnight shift outside in the cold and rain for LESS money than I got in my first job in IT.

Re: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Gene Sais
Interesting thread, since I am just embarking on using RMAN.  If the repository is to go away then why bother learning the intricacies of it.  Has anyone else heard the RMAN repository was going away?  It appears much simpler to setup w/out the repository.  Besides reporting advantages, what

RE: RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
In 9i Oracle can handle control file recoveries just fine without a repository if configured correctly. In 8i, you can actually recover the control file even without a repository but you have to use the dbms_backup_restore package to do so. I have not heard anything about the repository going away

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