Rollback segment shrinkage

2004-01-07 Thread Satav, Pawan
Hi, Can anyone point pros/cons of shrinking a rollback segment ? (other than performance overheads associated with extent allocation and reallocation) Optimal is not set for my rollback segments. Recently I shrunk a rollback segments which had more than 100 extents allocated

Re: Rollback segment shrinkage

2004-01-07 Thread Daniel Fink
Shrinking of rollback segments may result in ORA-1555s. If you need to shrink them, do so during a slow time. Not shrinking rollback segments may result in ORA-1562 unable to extend rbs. Satav, Pawan wrote: Hi, Can anyone point pros/cons of shrinking a rollback segment ? (other than

RE: ** can two processes use the same rollback extent

2003-12-28 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
1)rollback segment will not shrink. Correct, assuming you do not shrink it manually. 2)It will keep growing till tablespace fills up. Correct assuming that you have a SQL statement that causes the rollback segment to grow in such a way and that you have no constraints on the rollback

RE: ** can two processes use the same rollback extent

2003-12-28 Thread Bobak, Mark
1.) Correct, except that the DBA can always shrink it manually. 2.) Well, that's true, but a rollback segment w/ optimal set could conceivably grow to fill the tablespace as well. It depends on the size of the rollback tablespace and the size(s) of your transaction(s). The reason that it's

Re: ** can two processes use the same rollback extent

2003-12-27 Thread A Joshi
Hi, A simple rollback segment question. If I do not set a optimal thencan I assume following 1)rollback segment will not shrink. 2)It will keep growing till tablespace fills up. 3)And there will be no 'snapshot too old' errors? ThanksA Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, One rollback

Rollback datafile size

2003-12-22 Thread Michael Milligan
The datafile for our rollback segments gre huge because of an improper setting. Even setting optimal and shrink, etc., won't help because the segments are scattered. Do I have to create a new tablespace? Can I change the datafile a rollback segment writes to and then take the other offline

Re: Rollback datafile size

2003-12-22 Thread Daniel Fink
datafiles appropriately. Don't go to small or you run the risk of transactions failing due to unable to extend errors. Daniel Fink Michael Milligan wrote: The datafile for our rollback segments gre huge because of an improper setting. Even setting optimal and shrink, etc., won't help because

RE: Rollback datafile size

2003-12-22 Thread Michael Milligan
Daniel, Thank-you very much for your clear answer. Very helpful. When a RBS is taken off-line, does it transfer the rollback information to another segment? Thanks, Mike -Original Message- Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 1:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Re: Rollback datafile size

2003-12-22 Thread Daniel Fink
Mike, When an RBS is taken offline, the undo information is not transfered to another segment, hence the need to perform these actions at a quiet time. When an rbs is taken offline, all transactions currently using the rbs are allowed to complete (either commit or rollback). As these transactions

RE: Rollback datafile size

2003-12-22 Thread Michael Milligan
to another segment, hence the need to perform these actions at a quiet time. When an rbs is taken offline, all transactions currently using the rbs are allowed to complete (either commit or rollback). As these transactions are processing, the status of the segment is 'Pending Offline'. Once the tx

Rollback segments size calculation

2003-12-22 Thread Shibu MB
Hi all I am getting ORA-01555 in my database and the solution is to create huge rollback segments but my doubt is how to calculate the size of this huge rollback segments . Now I have 24 G of space in rollback segment tablespace .But still i am getting the error.The

Re: ** can two processes use the same rollback extent

2003-12-03 Thread Jonathan Lewis
A single block can only be 'owned' by one transaction at a time, but when a transaction commits, it may put its last undo block into that segment's 'free pool' list if there is a lot of free space left in the block so that it can be made available for new transactions . (Gaja Vaidyanatha quoted

Re: ** can two processes use the same rollback extent

2003-12-03 Thread K Gopalakrishnan
Yes Jonathan: I think that 400 byte concept came from one of the TPC benchmarks during Oracle 7 (or ORacle 6) days where the average undo size for a transcation was around 380+ bytes. So they had rounded that to 400 bytes and a maximum of 5 blocks will be linked to the freelist in the undo

Re: ** can two processes use the same rollback extent

2003-12-03 Thread Daniel Fink
IIRC, a segment will not wrap into an extent that has an active transaction in it, but rather allocate a new extent. So the answer is...it depends. Daniel Fink A Joshi wrote: Hi, One rollback segment can be used by multiple transactions/processes but what about the extents? Is it safe

Re: ** can two processes use the same rollback extent

2003-12-03 Thread Rajesh . Rao
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** can two processes use the same rollback extent

2003-12-02 Thread A Joshi
Hi, One rollback segment can be used by multiple transactions/processes but what about the extents? Is it safe to assume that only one transaction/process can use one extent? What is a good way to size the extent for warehousing tasks? Or guess the rollback generated and size needed. Thank You

Re: ** can two processes use the same rollback extent

2003-12-02 Thread rahul sharma
of list ORACLE-L Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:09 AM Subject: ** can two processes use the same rollback extent Hi, One rollback segment can be used by multiple transactions/processes but what about the extents? Is it safe to assume that only one

Reducing rollback segment tablespace sizes

2003-11-17 Thread Michael Milligan
I have a client where rollback segments were set up RBS01-RBS05, all in a tablespace called RBS. The person who set it up set %INCREASE at 50%. Well, I shrank the segments to themselves down to less than 500MB total from 4.6GB! But in using ALTER DATABASE DATAFILE . . . RESIZE . . . it won't let

Re: Reducing rollback segment tablespace sizes

2003-11-17 Thread Stephane Faroult
Michael Milligan wrote: I have a client where rollback segments were set up RBS01-RBS05, all in a tablespace called RBS. The person who set it up set %INCREASE at 50%. Well, I shrank the segments to themselves down to less than 500MB total from 4.6GB! But in using ALTER DATABASE DATAFILE

Re: Reducing rollback segment tablespace sizes

2003-11-17 Thread Daniel Fink
to reduce the chance of a 1555. Daniel Fink Michael Milligan wrote: I have a client where rollback segments were set up RBS01-RBS05, all in a tablespace called RBS. The person who set it up set %INCREASE at 50%. Well, I shrank the segments to themselves down to less than 500MB total from 4.6GB

Re: Reducing rollback segment tablespace sizes

2003-11-17 Thread Jared . Still
The high water mark for the rollback segments is preventing you from shrinking the files. Use alter rollback segment SEGMENT_NAME storage ( optimal OPTIMAL_SIZE) to set an optimal size for the segment, then use 'alter rollback segment SEGMENT_NAME shrink' to shrink the rollback. You may want

RE: Reducing rollback segment tablespace sizes

2003-11-17 Thread Michael Milligan
throughout the tablespace, preventing me from resizing the datafile. Thanks, Mike -Original Message- Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 2:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Michael Milligan wrote: I have a client where rollback segments were set up RBS01-RBS05, all in a tablespace

RE: Reducing rollback segment tablespace sizes

2003-11-17 Thread Michael Milligan
of a 1555. Daniel Fink Michael Milligan wrote: I have a client where rollback segments were set up RBS01-RBS05, all in a tablespace called RBS. The person who set it up set %INCREASE at 50%. Well, I shrank the segments to themselves down to less than 500MB total from 4.6GB! But in using ALTER

SQL*Loader and rollback segment

2003-11-15 Thread jaysingh1
Dear Gurus, I have a problem loading data from flat file using SQL*Loader. The problem is unable to extend rollbacksegment. Is there a way to assign BIG rollback segment to SQL*Loader transaction? If not what is the work around to load huge volume of data without using TRUNCATE option? Thanks

Re: SQL*Loader and rollback segment

2003-11-15 Thread Stephane Faroult
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Gurus, I have a problem loading data from flat file using SQL*Loader. The problem is unable to extend rollbacksegment. Is there a way to assign BIG rollback segment to SQL*Loader transaction? If not what is the work around to load huge volume of data

Re: SQL*Loader and rollback segment

2003-11-15 Thread Jeremiah Wilton
PROTECTED] wrote: I have a problem loading data from flat file using SQL*Loader. The problem is unable to extend rollbacksegment. Is there a way to assign BIG rollback segment to SQL*Loader transaction? If not what is the work around to load huge volume of data without using TRUNCATE

Re: no rollback ??

2003-08-26 Thread Jared . Still
PROTECTED] cc: Subject:no rollback ?? There is one log running process in db here and I waiting for it to finish since last 3 hours. when I see sql_address in v$session for this session and then find sql in v$sqlarea its a update statement . But then there is no entry in v$transaction

Re: no rollback ??

2003-08-26 Thread Tanel Poder
Maybe your rollback is done in background, because a session crashed orwas killed? Tanel. - Original Message - From: AK To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 1:49 AM Subject: no rollback ?? There is one log running process

Re: no rollback ??

2003-08-26 Thread Tanel Poder
disabled parallel rollback (fast_start_parallel_rollback parameter IIRC). Tanel. - Original Message - From: AK To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 1:49 AM Subject: no rollback ?? There is one log running process in db here and I

no rollback ??

2003-08-25 Thread AK
There is one log running process in db here and I waiting for it to finish since last 3 hours. when I see sql_address in v$session for this session and then find sql in v$sqlarea its a update statement . But then there is no entry in v$transaction . How'z it possible that there no rollback

undo tablespace and rollback segments in oracle9i

2003-07-30 Thread A.Bahar
I use manual managed undo tablespace but there are some system named rollback segments on that tablespace ( I did not created them ) and they can not be dropped. What are they , how can I drop them. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL

Re: undo tablespace and rollback segments in oracle9i

2003-07-30 Thread Kirtikumar Deshpande
where a.usn = b.usn; --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use manual managed undo tablespace but there are some system named rollback segments on that tablespace ( I did not created them ) and they can not be dropped. What are they , how can I drop them. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L

Re: undo tablespace and rollback segments in oracle9i

2003-07-30 Thread Daniel Fink
The scenario you describe is not consistent with manual undo. Was the database created/started with automatic undo and you have switched to manual? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use manual managed undo tablespace but there are some system named rollback segments on that tablespace ( I did

RE: undo tablespace and rollback segments in oracle9i

2003-07-30 Thread A.Bahar
segment_name, tablespace_name from dba_rollback_segs; SQL select a.usn, a.name, b.status 2 from v$rollname a, 3 v$rollstat b 4 where a.usn = b.usn; --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use manual managed undo tablespace but there are some system named rollback segments

RE: undo tablespace and rollback segments in oracle9i

2003-07-30 Thread A.Bahar
PROTECTED] wrote: I use manual managed undo tablespace but there are some system named rollback segments on that tablespace ( I did not created them ) and they can not be dropped. What are they , how can I drop them. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author

Re: undo tablespace and rollback segments in oracle9i

2003-07-30 Thread Daniel Fink
If you are now running in manual undo mode and have created rollback segments, you can remove the undo segments. Verify that the segments are offline and you are not using them. Then drop the undo tablespace. This is the only way to get rid of them. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes . What should

RE: undo tablespace and rollback segments in oracle9i

2003-07-30 Thread Kirtikumar Deshpande
were created in an undo tablespace titled RBS. To remove system managed undo segments (_SYSSMUn$) one must drop the undo tablespace itself. But, in your case, you will first have to: 1. Create a new, normal tablespace, say, rollback_ts, to hold new rollback segments (do not create it using

undo tablespace and set transaction use rollback segment

2003-07-29 Thread A.Bahar
when we were using oracle8i , whe had some process which use set transaction use rollback segment. and now we use undo tablespace and we have still same porocesses . how can set a rollbback segment for process with undo tablepsace -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http

Undo Tablespace vs Rollback segments

2003-07-18 Thread Keith Moore
Can anyone point me to an article or white paper that goes into detail on this. When I RTFM, it just says use Undo TBS, don't worrry about it and all your problems will be solved. We are upgrading from Oracle8 to 9i and currently have Rollback segments in 4 tablespaces spread over 4 disks

RE: Rollback Segs

2003-07-16 Thread Fermin Bernaus
Which database version are you using? as long as I know, at least on Oracle 8.0.6 you can not specify which rollback segment a particular transaction should use. We disable all rollback segments and only enable those which we know won't make big updates / deletes crash. -Mensaje

RE: Rollback Segs

2003-07-16 Thread Lee Cullip
set transaction use rollback segment only works if it's the first statement in your transaction, an easy way to make sure this is the case is to issue a commit directly before issuing this statement. I believe this has been a feature of Oracle since way back in version 7 (Correct me

RE: Rollback Segs

2003-07-16 Thread Fermin Bernaus
Yes you are right, sorry but I made a mistake, since we are using Baan IVc4 which works against Oracle we have no means to interfere with its transactions when they are commited to Oracle and we can not modify them so that it uses a specific rollback segment, so the only way for us to do

RE: Rollback Segs

2003-07-16 Thread Lee Cullip
I think that's probably the case with most third party applications, if developers haven't coded their apps to use a large rollback segment for certain transactions (which I find is the case with most developers ;-) ) then the only option is to turn off all but the large rollback seg

Re: Rollback Segs

2003-07-16 Thread Mladen Gogala
party applications, if developers haven't coded their apps to use a large rollback segment for certain transactions (which I find is the case with most developers ;-) ) then the only option is to turn off all but the large rollback seg. Cheers Lee -Original Message- Sent: 16 July 2003 11:19

Rollback Segs

2003-07-15 Thread venkat Rama
Hi Friends, I have 150Gb database with 30 rollback segs with optimal settings!! for normal operations no problems!! But we are doing massive updates for some ofbig tables!! So we are using vb programs and connecting to the database thru odbc dsn. My first question is how to set transaction use

RE: Rollback Segs

2003-07-15 Thread Jorma.Vuorio
Ave ! Is there any reason not to keep maxextents always unlimited :) Extentsize should be reasonable of course. Br. Jorma -Original Message-From: ext venkat Rama [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 16 July, 2003 07:34To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Rollback Segs Hi

8.1.7.4 doesn't take stirped raw LVs for redo and rollback. HPUX

2003-07-10 Thread Jessica Mao
can anyone please help? errors like below when any of the redo or rollback raw LVs are created using stripe: CREATE TABLESPACE RBS DATAFILE '/dev/vgrbs/rrbs01.dbf' SIZE 8000M REUSE AUTOEXTEND OFF MINIMUM EXTENT 512K DEFAULT STORAGE ( INITIAL 512K NEXT 512K MINEXTENTS 8 MAXEXTENTS UNLIMITED

Re: memory swapping and rollback

2003-06-19 Thread Daniel Fink
blocks will not be reused as often. This could cause space management problems if there is not enough space in the tablespace or other processes are causing rollback segments to shrink. The short version is that frequent commits = additional housekeeping (impact can't be known exactly until

memory swapping and rollback

2003-06-18 Thread David Turner
related to rollback. I said I was not aware of this and would look into it but I had never heard of this before and couldn't find any information on this so of course I'm sending mail to the list. Both items sound bogus to me. I've really never heard where committing more frequently on a load would

Some rollback doubts

2003-06-12 Thread Rajesh . Rao
From the docs : Many active transactions can write concurrently to a single rollback segment--even the same extent of a rollback segment; however, each data block in a rollback segment's extent can contain information for only a single transaction. 1) Now, when oracle writes to the last extent

RE: Some rollback doubts

2003-06-12 Thread K Gopalakrishnan
Rajesh: I am not sure which document you are referring here. If that documentation says more than one transaction can not use a rollback segment data block means, I would say the documentation is incorrect in this case. But this can not happen concurrently. IT can happen serially. Each rollback

RE: Some rollback doubts

2003-06-12 Thread Rajesh . Rao
Thanks KG, for your reply. Well, it whets my appetite for more. This surprises me. All the documentation I have read so far tells me that multiple transactions cannot be write to the same rollback segment data block. My first question was basically well, if many transactions can write

How to find creation date for Rollback segment

2003-06-03 Thread kranti . pushkarna
Is there any way to find out created time stamp for a rollback segment apart from looking into alert.log. TIA Kranti This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify

RE: How to find creation date for Rollback segment

2003-06-03 Thread Stephane Faroult
Is there any way to find out created time stamp for a rollback segment apart from looking into alert.log. TIA Kranti If you think of some column in a dictionary table, I don't think so. Auditing is another solution, besides scanning the alert.log file. Regards, Stephane Faroult Oriole

RE: How to find creation date for Rollback segment

2003-06-03 Thread Senthil Kumar D
Hi, When you create a RBS the creation entry will be there in the alert.log Senthil. -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 12:40 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Is there any way to find out created time stamp for a rollback segment apart from

RE: exp, dbms_stats, RMAN and rollback segments

2003-05-30 Thread Orr, Steve
to this was an RMAN backup and DBMS_STATS.GATHER_TABLE_STATS(...) which was being run on the same schema being backed up via the user level export. There was no other end user access to the schema data. Since exp got the error I assume it was reading from the rollback segments but why? I'm

RE: exp, dbms_stats, RMAN and rollback segments

2003-05-30 Thread Orr, Steve
HELP... Has anyone encountered rollback problems while running dbms_stats? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:15 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Oh yeah, for the export consistent=N -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:14 AM To: '[EMAIL

RE: exp, dbms_stats, RMAN and rollback segments

2003-05-30 Thread Ganesh Raja
backup and DBMS_STATS.GATHER_TABLE_STATS(...) which was being run on the same schema being backed up via the user level export. There was no other end user access to the schema data. Since exp got the error I assume it was reading from the rollback segments but why? I'm suspecting dbms_stats. We

RE: exp, dbms_stats, RMAN and rollback segments

2003-05-30 Thread Kirtikumar Deshpande
Steve, You may have to dig a little further... What happened to those table(s) in that schema prior to starting the export? Heavy DML, may be? This could be a case of 'delayed block cleanout'. Export triggered the cleanout and wanted to access the rollback segments. If no table data

RE: exp, dbms_stats, RMAN and rollback segments

2003-05-30 Thread Orr, Steve
be? This could be a case of 'delayed block cleanout'. Export triggered the cleanout and wanted to access the rollback segments. If no table data was modified after export started reading that table, then there is no need to read RBS info (except for the DBC case, IMO). - Kirti --- Orr, Steve [EMAIL

RE: exp, dbms_stats, RMAN and rollback segments

2003-05-30 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.
to this was an RMAN backup and DBMS_STATS.GATHER_TABLE_STATS(...) which was being run on the same schema being backed up via the user level export. There was no other end user access to the schema data. Since exp got the error I assume it was reading from the rollback segments but why? I'm suspecting

Re: Rollback and what table's DML caused an ORA-1555?

2003-04-05 Thread Jonathan Lewis
alter rollback segment XXX storage (optimal null); Regards Jonathan Lewis http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk The educated person is not the person who can answer the questions, but the person who can question the answers -- T. Schick Jr One-day tutorials: http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk

Rollback and what table's DML caused an ORA-1555?

2003-04-04 Thread Jesse, Rich
Hey all, Fighting with a lot of ORA-1555s lately on 8.1.7.4 on HP/UX. Most of them are now coming from long-running Business Objects (B.O.) queries against our OLTP DB. I think I need to recreate the RBS tablespace (currently 1MB extents in LMT), but until I can get time to do that, I'd like to

Re: Rollback and what table's DML caused an ORA-1555?

2003-04-04 Thread Stephane Faroult
Jesse, Rich wrote: Hey all, Fighting with a lot of ORA-1555s lately on 8.1.7.4 on HP/UX. Most of them are now coming from long-running Business Objects (B.O.) queries against our OLTP DB. I think I need to recreate the RBS tablespace (currently 1MB extents in LMT), but until I can get

RE: Rollback and what table's DML caused an ORA-1555?

2003-04-04 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
. Create a new rollback tablespace. You can do this quickly. Ask the report users to hold off running reports for a few minutes, then offline the current rollback tablespace. It won't go off until all current transactions complete. 3. Modify the application. In my experience, actions #1 and #2

Re: Rollback and what table's DML caused an ORA-1555?

2003-04-04 Thread Gaja Krishna Vaidyanatha
Rich, The overcommiting is a definite suspect and is worth looking into. ALso, do you by chance have OPTIMAL set on your rollback segments? If so, I'd suggest you remove the OPTIMAL clause and try again. In my experience, I have had my share of hassles with OPTIMAL. Even when it was sized

Re: Rollback and what table's DML caused an ORA-1555?

2003-04-04 Thread Jonathan Lewis
In general, you don't need to do this in recent versions of Oracle. Oracle knows that all the data in the tablespace MUST have been committed before the tablespace was switched to read-only (you can only switch a tablspace to readonly when there are no active transactions that started before

RE: Rollback and what table's DML caused an ORA-1555?

2003-04-04 Thread Jesse, Rich
-Original Message- Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 12:54 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Rich, The overcommiting is a definite suspect and is worth looking into. ALso, do you by chance have OPTIMAL set on your rollback segments? If so, I'd suggest you remove the OPTIMAL clause

RE: Rollback and what table's DML caused an ORA-1555?

2003-04-04 Thread Gaja Krishna Vaidyanatha
Yes, your assumption is right. Create new rollback segments without the OPTIMAL clause, bring them online, take the old ones offline, blow the old ones away, document the new ones in your init.ora, remove the old ones from your init.ora. See whether this solves your problem. My guess is that you

Re: Rollback and what table's DML caused an ORA-1555?

2003-04-04 Thread Gaja Krishna Vaidyanatha
-ONLY. Due to whatever reason (I could not gather whether there (were/were not) any long-running queries), the clean out did not occur on some of the objects, and this caused the ORA-1555, as his current query was trying to build a read-consistent image from the rollback segment and could not find

Re: Rollback and what table's DML caused an ORA-1555?

2003-04-04 Thread Anjo Kolk
Sometimes the extents should be larger (fewer larger extents, then many small extents). - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 1:30 AM Yes, your assumption is right. Create new rollback segments without

rollback segment

2003-03-14 Thread AK
I have recently found that one temporary rollback segment in system tablespace is having more then 600 extnets . It looks like previous dba created this rollback segment at the time of db creation and forgot to take it offline . Now how do I find it this rollback segment is being used

RE: rollback segment

2003-03-14 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
, 40%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 3:54 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have recently found that one temporary rollback segment in system tablespace is having more then 600 extnets . It looks like previous

Re: rollback segment

2003-03-14 Thread Daniel W. Fink
You can take the rollback segment offline. It will not impact any currently running transactions and no new transactions will be assigned to it. Oracle will not let you drop a rollback segment while there are any active transactions writing undo to the rollback segment. IIRC, the v

Re: rollback segment

2003-03-14 Thread Darrell Landrum
looking for here is the 'XACTS' column to be zero for the rollback segment you want to take offline. Once you see it is not in use, shrink it: 'alter rollback segment RBSNAME shrink;'. Then take it offline. If it is taking up too much space, maybe drop and recreated it with smaller extent sizes

Create rollback segment under ORACLE 9ir2 failed????

2003-03-13 Thread mike mon
I am create database on ORACLE 9iR2 and fail on create rollback segment. SQL create tablespace rollback_space datafile 2 '/u4/oradata/TRAN/rbs01TRAN.dbf' size 800M 3 default storage ( 4 initial 256k 5 next 256k 6

Re: Create rollback segment under ORACLE 9ir2 failed????

2003-03-13 Thread Daniel W. Fink
Mike, Check the setting for undo_management. It needs to be set to MANUAL. mike mon wrote: I am create database on ORACLE 9iR2 and fail on create rollback segment. SQL create tablespace rollback_space datafile 2 '/u4/oradata/TRAN/rbs01TRAN.dbf' size 800M 3

RE: Create rollback segment under ORACLE 9ir2 failed????

2003-03-13 Thread Pete Sharman
Mike The only way this would have worked under 8i is if you had already created a dummy rollback segment in the SYSTEM tablespace. Something like this should work (before or after the CREATE TABLESPACE rollback_space) SQL connect / as sysdba; SQL CREATE ROLLBACK SEGMENT dummy; Pete

RE: Create rollback segment under ORACLE 9ir2 failed????

2003-03-13 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Title: RE: Create rollback segment under ORACLE 9ir2 failed I see other people have already answered your question, but would it be presumptuous of me to ask why you are using ROLLBACK segments instead of an UNDO tablespace? -Original Message- From: mike mon [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Create rollback segment under ORACLE 9ir2 failed????

2003-03-13 Thread Daniel W. Fink
Mike, et.al, Mea Culpa. Please ignore my previous post. I failed to properly context switch from my Automatic Undo mode. IIRC, as of 7.3, the requirement for a second rollback segment in SYSTEM was removed, with minor exceptions. I think the one that is biting you is that a second RBS

RE: Create rollback segment under ORACLE 9ir2 failed????

2003-03-13 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
And what Pete said does work. Here is a report from my testing of undo mode switching (AUM - MUM). Rollback tablespace was already created. SQL create rollback segment rbs01 tablespace rollback; create rollback segment rbs01 tablespace rollback * ERROR at line 1: ORA-01552: cannot use system

RE: Rollback Segments on 8.1.7.4

2003-03-11 Thread Kevin Lange
. -Original Message- Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 5:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Did any of the rollback segment storage parameters (i.e. INITIAL, NEXT, PCTINCREASE, MINEXTENTS, MAXEXTENTS, OPTIMAL) or the number of rollback segments change between 8.0.5 and 8.1.7? Changes

RE: Rollback Segments on 8.1.7.4

2003-03-11 Thread Kevin Lange
years since I tested an 8.0.x db, but I do not recall seeing any changes in rollback segments from 7.3 to 8.1. Have you converted from Dictionary to Locally managed RBS tablespaces? When you upgraded, did you change any of the settings, like OPTIMAL, for the rollback segments? Were

Rollback Segments on 8.1.7.4

2003-03-10 Thread Kevin Lange
Evening; Has anyone noticed any difference on the way Oracle uses Rollback Segments on 8.1.7.4 versus 8.0.5 ?? Ever since upgrading to 8.1.7.4 from 8.0.5 on our Solaris servers we have noticed more SNAPSHOT TOO OLD errors than we used to. Are there any suggestions as to rollback tuning

Re: Rollback Segments on 8.1.7.4

2003-03-10 Thread Daniel W. Fink
Kevin, The ORA-01555 errors are almost certainly symptoms, not the actual problem. It has been a few years since I tested an 8.0.x db, but I do not recall seeing any changes in rollback segments from 7.3 to 8.1. Have you converted from Dictionary to Locally managed RBS tablespaces? When

Re: Rollback Segments on 8.1.7.4

2003-03-10 Thread Tim Gorman
Did any of the rollback segment storage parameters (i.e. INITIAL, NEXT, PCTINCREASE, MINEXTENTS, MAXEXTENTS, OPTIMAL) or the number of rollback segments change between 8.0.5 and 8.1.7? Changes to any of these variables could impact the space available for storing inactive undo blocks for read

RE: Re[2]: HELP!!! : Can't start database - Rollback Datafiles a

2003-02-06 Thread Veronica Levin
Hi to all, Thanks for the comments, but none of them worked for me, I tried putting a comment in the init.ora file to the rollback segments line to recreate the controlfile. No success. I did get a message telling me that there was a 'MISSING000' datafile in $ORACLE_HOME/dbs, and tried to do

RE: Which rollback segment is currently active?

2003-02-05 Thread Bernardus Deddy Hoeydiono
Title: Which rollback segment is currently active? Hi, If you want to drop one of the the RBS, First you have to check in the application level. Which user that used the rollback segment. select username,name,used_ublk,start_time,sum(waits),sum(gets),sum(waits)*100/sum(gets)from v

Which rollback segment is currently active?

2003-02-04 Thread Nguyen, David M
Title: Which rollback segment is currently active? I have three rollback segments which all show ONLINE. I want to drop one of them but I need to know which one should I drop. How do I find out which one is good to drop? SVRMGR select segment_name,owner,tablespace_name,status from

RE: Which rollback segment is currently active?

2003-02-04 Thread Richard Ji
Title: Which rollback segment is currently active? Check v$rollstat for xact 0. -Original Message-From: Nguyen, David M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 6:24 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Which rollback segment is currently

RE: Which rollback segment is currently active?

2003-02-04 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
David This query will show sessions using rollback segments: select s.username, s.sid, rn.name, rs.extents ,rs.status, t.used_ublk, t.used_urec ,do.object_name fromv$transaction t ,v$session s ,v

RE: Which rollback segment is currently active?

2003-02-04 Thread Nick Wagner
Title: Which rollback segment is currently active? select rs.usn, xacts active_transactions, gets, waits, writes, name from v$rollstat rs, v$rollname rnwhere rs.usn = rn.usn This may help... -Original Message-From: Nguyen, David M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, February

Can not place rollback segment online

2003-02-03 Thread shuan.tay\(PCI\)
Dear all DBAs, i'm using Oracle 8.0.5 on Linux 6.4 kernel 2.2.14. when i try to place the rollback segment online, it show error as below: SQL ALTER ROLLBACK SEGMENT "RB28" ONLINE;ALTER ROLLBACK SEGMENT "RB28" ONLINE*ERROR at line 1:ORA-01599: failed to acquire

RE: Can not place rollback segment online

2003-02-03 Thread Dawtrey, Lindsay L
: Can not place rollback segment online Dear all DBAs, i'm using Oracle 8.0.5 on Linux 6.4 kernel 2.2.14. when i try to place the rollback segment online, it show error as below: SQL ALTER ROLLBACK SEGMENT "RB28" ONLINE;ALTER ROLLBACK SEGMENT "RB28"

RE: Can not place rollback segment online

2003-02-03 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Shuan - If you go to http://www.google.com/search?hl=en http://www.google.com/search?hl=enie=ISO-8859-1q=max_rollback_segments ie=ISO-8859-1q=max_rollback_segments you can find a lot of information on this parameter. Oracle needs to allocate a finite amount of memory to manage rollback segments

Re: Can not place rollback segment online

2003-02-03 Thread shuan.tay\(PCI\)
=max_rollback_segments ie=ISO-8859-1q=max_rollback_segments you can find a lot of information on this parameter. Oracle needs to allocate a finite amount of memory to manage rollback segments, so there must be a upper boundary somewhere. Unfortunately, you've hit it and must bounce your instance to change

HELP!!! : Can't start database - Rollback Datafiles are missing -

2003-01-31 Thread Veronica Levin
is mixed up. I can mount the database, but can't open it because rollback datafiles (and filesystem) where lost in the crash. Had to rebuild the filesystem, but I'm not able to rebuild the controlfile due to datafiles errors on the rollback tablespaces. I tried, with no success, to rebuild

Re: HELP!!! : Can't start database - Rollback Datafiles are missing -

2003-01-31 Thread tim
where lost, and control file is mixed up. I can mount the database, but can't open it because rollback datafiles (and filesystem) where lost in the crash. Had to rebuild the filesystem, but I'm not able to rebuild the controlfile due to datafiles errors on the rollback tablespaces. I tried

Re: HELP!!! : Can't start database - Rollback Datafiles are missing -

2003-01-31 Thread Stephane Faroult
where lost, and control file is mixed up. I can mount the database, but can't open it because rollback datafiles (and filesystem) where lost in the crash. Had to rebuild the filesystem, but I'm not able to rebuild the controlfile due to datafiles errors on the rollback tablespaces. I tried

Re:HELP!!! : Can't start database - Rollback Datafiles are m

2003-01-31 Thread dgoulet
want the database looking for them. 3) Startup mount the database. 4) alter database datafile fill_in_the_file_name offline drop; 5) repeat 4 as mant times as necessary; 6) alter database open; 7) create rollback segment sys1 tablespace system; 8) alter rollback segment sys1

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