Re: orion-list Water, Water everywhere... For what it is worth,while finding no good links to topographical maps of the Dead Sea region,it does appear that Rochelle is obtaining her information from the followingbook, or something very like it: _The Dead Sea: The Lake and Its Setting_,Edited by TINA M. NIEMI, University of Missouri, Kansas City,ZVI BEN-AVRAHAM, Tel Aviv University, Israel, and JOEL R. GAT,Weizmann Institute of Science, Israel, $85.00, ISBN 0195087038, 1997,Oxford Monographs on Geology and Geophysics 36

2002-06-24 Thread Rochelle I. Altman
Dave, Hey, Watch it! If I had been using a single source, I would have said so... and quoted from it. My data are from books, journals, lab reports, and other scientific reports from across more than 50 years. I have known specifically about the geology and marine biology of the Med basin and

RE: orion-list Water, Water everywhere... For what it is worth, while finding no good links to topographical maps of the Dead Sea region, it does appear that Rochelle is obtaining her information from the following book, or something very like it:

2002-06-24 Thread David C. Hindley
Rochelle, Hey, Watch it! If I had been using a single source, I would have said so ... and quoted from it. My data are from books, journals, lab reports, and other scientific reports from across more than 50 years. I have known specifically about the geology and marine biology of the Med basin

Re: orion-list Water, Water everywhere... For what it is worth,

2002-06-24 Thread Rochelle I. Altman
Dave, This sure sounds like a great resource... I didn't think you intended to or I'd have pulled your ears off VBG Cheers, Rochelle -- Dr. R.I.S. Altman, co-coordinator, IOUDAIOS-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] For private reply, e-mail to Rochelle I. Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: orion-list Water, Water everywhere...

2002-06-24 Thread Ian Hutchesson
Dear Rochelle, The cracked cistern --- Zavislock, .. He sees that the cracking was done at the first introduction of water into the structure -- Fair enough; *as I noted*, if from settling because of the clay softening, it would have cracked at the first rains.

Re: orion-list Water, Water everywhere...

2002-06-23 Thread Ian Hutchesson
Dear Rochelle, I'd like to deal with two things: The cracked cistern --- Parenthetically, the so-called earthquake faultline supplied by de Vaux as having damaged the eastern cistern, seems to have been an invention, as another explanation for the data, supplied by our old

RE: orion-list Water, Water everywhere...

2002-06-23 Thread David C. Hindley
Ian H says: The conversation was about the limit of the sea level based on the location of Ein Feshka during the Qumran period. I can't see how hypothetical crevices, passes, caves, etc., have any bearing on the local topography so as to render irrelevant the altitude of Ein Feshka as a limiting

RE: orion-list Water, Water everywhere...

2002-06-23 Thread Dave Washburn
Ian H says: The conversation was about the limit of the sea level based on the location of Ein Feshka during the Qumran period. I can't see how hypothetical crevices, passes, caves, etc., have any bearing on the local topography so as to render irrelevant the altitude of Ein Feshka as a

RE: orion-list Water, Water everywhere...

2002-06-23 Thread David C. Hindley
Dave Washburn says: First, I think Ian is right to request some evidence of such a change. There should be a way to tell by something in the topography whether such alterations might have taken place, correct? Second, since it is specifically the Dead Sea that is being discussed, why not skip

Re: orion-list Water, Water everywhere...

2002-06-23 Thread Rochelle I. Altman
Dear Ian, Okay, time for a coffee break in any case... The cracked cistern --- Zavislock, an architect with experience in repairs after earthquake damage (who did reconstruction work at Qumran). S [snip] He sees that the cracking was done at the first

RE: orion-list Water, Water everywhere...

2002-06-23 Thread David C. Hindley
For what it is worth, while finding no good links to topographical maps of the Dead Sea region, it does appear that Rochelle is obtaining her information from the following book, or something very like it: _The Dead Sea: The Lake and Its Setting_, Edited by TINA M. NIEMI, University of Missouri,

Re: orion-list Water, Water everywhere...

2002-06-18 Thread Ian Hutchesson
Dear Rochelle, As the topic seems interesting, I guess I should have asked a more useful question than Is it really that clockwork? How is the data extracted from the Lisan-type deposits and how is it dated? While dendrochronology is more or less only a matter of counting tree rings,

Re: orion-list Water, Water everywhere... (Was: Essene cemetery atJericho?)

2002-06-13 Thread Rochelle I. Altman
Hi, Ian G The Lisan Peninsula is very low, as is the land below Qumran. It doesn't take much change to cover much of it. No, it sure does not... The Dead Sea is a closed basin; all you need to bring the water level up is a geological humid period. While the geological record can indicate