Re: [osg-users] Thread safety improvements and CullThreadPerCameraDrawThreadPerContext now working

2007-08-25 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gordon Tomlinson wrote: > > Jan do you let this master out to play now and again or hide him in the > attic ;) > > Sorry, could not resist ;) I guess I was asking for it :) Jan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Commen

Re: [osg-users] Thread safety improvements and CullThreadPerCameraDrawThreadPerContext now working

2007-08-25 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Osfield wrote: > Hi Jan, > Its not quite the same w.r.t single core and multi-core, on a single > core machine each thread/process gets a scheduled block on time CPU > and during this period nothing else runs, nothing else can read and > write

Re: [osg-users] Thread safety improvements and CullThreadPerCameraDrawThreadPerContext now working

2007-08-25 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Robert Osfield wrote: > HI Jan, > > Thanks for the further testing and stack trace. > > This is really peculiar - normally one hits threading problems when > one has multi-core systems where race conditions and timing issues are > much more s

Re: [osg-users] Thread safety improvements and CullThreadPerCameraDrawThreadPerContext now working

2007-08-24 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jan Ciger wrote: > I do, but not SMP-capable, nor with an SLI config. I have tested the > problem on my T41p laptop, with a FireGL T2 (~ Radeon 9600) card and the > original Pentium M (not Core Duo, no SMP nor multi

Re: [osg-users] Thread safety improvements and CullThreadPerCameraDrawThreadPerContext now working

2007-08-24 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Osfield wrote: > Um... the above is probably rather awkward to follow anyway the > change is now checked in. Fingers cross we'll see some progress. > Could you test pretty please :-) Roger, I am on it - recompiling as I am writing this :)

Re: [osg-users] Max 9 Crashing

2007-08-24 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 André Rocha Tomasi wrote: > Anyone using 3D Max 9 has been suffering with crashes when using the > openscenegraph commands? Like trying to create a sequence helper, crashes > Max 3 out of 4 tries. Same for creating billboards and other items. > > [ ]´

Re: [osg-users] Thread safety improvements and CullThreadPerCameraDrawThreadPerContext now working

2007-08-23 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Osfield wrote: > This is the problem I say before I fixed it.. > > Could you disable the AFR, and just run with one GPU, or the two GPU > rendering to two displays? I do not have a second display, but after disabling SLI there is no significan

Re: [osg-users] Thread safety improvements and CullThreadPerCameraDrawThreadPerContext now working

2007-08-23 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Osfield wrote: > Hi Jan, > > Thanks the testing. I guess its good to hear that > DrawThreadPerContext is working, but am really perplexed why > CullThreadPerCameraDrawThreadPerContext isn't working. Does > anything get rendered? Or is th

Re: [osg-users] Thread safety improvements and CullThreadPerCameraDrawThreadPerContext now working

2007-08-22 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Robert Osfield wrote: > Could users that have seen problems with crash on exit, or with the > CullThreadPerCameraDrawThreadPerContext threading model do a svn > update and let me know how you get on. > I have updated to the current HEAD and t

Re: [osg-users] Threading Issue: DatabasePager on SingleCore Win32 ...

2007-08-21 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 KSpam wrote: > I am sure that there are tools that would help improve my > productivity on Windows ... a real bash shell with all of the > standard Unix commands for starters. I am just not that into trying > to turn Windows into Unix for the sake of

Re: [osg-users] Has anyone tried 64-bit SUSE enterprise

2007-08-21 Thread Jan Ciger
On 8/17/07, Robert Osfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Garret, > > On 8/16/07, Garrett Potts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think you are right that it's a ATI problem more than likely the > > drivers for SUSE. The MAC drivers work great. > > Mac ATI drivers seem to be the only place that

Re: [osg-users] Dreamhost/Mailman just screwed up big time

2007-08-21 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Osfield wrote: > Hi Guys, > > For some reason the mailman server running osg-users has just > unsubscribed 191 people from osg-users with no warning, and no errors. > All the unsubscribe messages occurred in the span of two minutes, > this is

Re: [osg-users] running vrml plugin on 2.0

2007-08-20 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Joan Slottow wrote: > The isos2_2 and vectors datasets I generated using a user's data. He > has been gone from UCLA for many years however, and I cannot ask for > his permission. Therefore, I really don't want it to be widely > disseminated.

Re: [osg-users] HTML support

2007-08-20 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 deepti g wrote: > The library works only for windows , waiting for the linux version :( .. any > other libraries ?? > Oh, I have almost forgotten - Qt toolkit has a great support for rendering rich text and HTML into widgets. Jan -BEGIN PGP SIGN

Re: [osg-users] HTML support

2007-08-20 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 deepti g wrote: > The library works only for windows , waiting for the linux version :( .. any > other libraries ?? You can try Konqueror (the KDE browser) - that works in Linux as well as on a Mac (as Safari). The rendering engine should be portable.

Re: [osg-users] running vrml plugin on 2.0

2007-08-20 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Osfield wrote: > Hi Jan, > > Thanks for the stack traces, this gives us much more of an idea what > might be up.These are just standard blocks/mutexes so not > directly related to OpenGL, and also by the same token unlikely to be > relat

Re: [osg-users] running vrml plugin on 2.0

2007-08-19 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Robert, I have new information regarding the hangs. I have finally managed to get my gdb to produce a meaningful backtrace when the viewer hangs and this is the result. For DrawThreadPerContext, it is blocked at: Thread 1: #0 0xb7f507f2 in _d

Re: [osg-users] running vrml plugin on 2.0

2007-08-18 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Osfield wrote: > #if 0 > if (XInitThreads() == 0) > { > osg::notify(osg::NOTICE) << "Error: XInitThreads() failed. > Aborting." << std::endl; > exit(1); > } > else > { >

Re: [osg-users] Has anyone tried 64-bit SUSE enterprise

2007-08-18 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brede Johansen wrote: > Jan and Robert, > > This happens with the latest ForceWare release 162.18. > osgviewer from SVN. > I have two screens attached to a 8800GTX and one screen attached to a > 8600GS. I know the GS isn't the best but I had a spare

Re: [osg-users] Has anyone tried 64-bit SUSE enterprise

2007-08-18 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brede Johansen wrote: > Hi Jan, > > The framerate continues to drop so if it starts at 60Hz it slowly drops and > reaches 30Hz after aproximatly 20 seconds. It is not a one time drop due to > the HUD. This happens in SingleThreaded mode with a very

Re: [osg-users] running vrml plugin on 2.0

2007-08-18 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Robert Osfield wrote: > > CullThreaPerCameraDrawThreadPerContext hangs on my machine new > machine, so this is something I can reproduce and while I don't know > what the problem is I should be able to fix. DrawThreadPerContext is > 100% reli

Re: [osg-users] Has anyone tried 64-bit SUSE enterprise

2007-08-17 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brede Johansen wrote: > Hi, > > On 8/16/07, Jan Ciger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Do you have problems displaying the stats in the osgviewer as well? >> > > > I also have a problem with the stats in osgviewer

Re: [osg-users] running vrml plugin on 2.0

2007-08-17 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Osfield wrote: > Hi Jan, > > On 8/16/07, Jan Ciger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Robert, I think that there may be indeed some threading bug in the >> osgViewer. I have tested the files from Joan and if I view

Re: [osg-users] Reusing the collada reader for physics

2007-08-16 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kenneth Bodin (Holmlund) wrote: > Hi, > We're looking at using Collada for setting up scenes for physics based .. > What would be the best way of using the osg collada reader for also > setting up > the physics? From the way the reader is designed no

Re: [osg-users] Has anyone tried 64-bit SUSE enterprise

2007-08-16 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Garrett Potts wrote: > hello Jan: > > Hmmm, funny you mention it. The SUSE enterprise is running on Mac > Hardware and so yes it is an ATI board. I also have tried te osgtext > example. It runs but is very slow. I do get the same crash is

Re: [osg-users] Has anyone tried 64-bit SUSE enterprise

2007-08-16 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Garrett Potts wrote: > hello Jan: > > Hmmm, funny you mention it. The SUSE enterprise is running on Mac > Hardware and so yes it is an ATI board. I also have tried te osgtext > example. It runs but is very slow. I do get the same crash is

Re: [osg-users] Has anyone tried 64-bit SUSE enterprise

2007-08-16 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Garrett Potts wrote: > Hello: > >> You might want to try and get a stack trace with gdb. If it turns out >> that you have vector iterators or OpenThreads in the stack trace, then >> it's probably a question of calling setText() while another thread is

Re: [osg-users] Has anyone tried 64-bit SUSE enterprise

2007-08-16 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Garrett Potts wrote: > Hello All: > > I am having text/font issues under the 64-bit SUSE. If ever a > setText is called on an osgText object there is a core dump that > occurs. Note the code works fine on MAC's ad Windows. I think it > might

Re: [osg-users] running vrml plugin on 2.0

2007-08-16 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Joan Slottow wrote: > Jan > ... > I notice, from looking at the resultant .osg files, > that the vrml translation is introducing a rotation to turn the z of > the model up. Yes, this is done to make the viewing more convenient, the standard

Re: [osg-users] running vrml plugin on 2.0

2007-08-16 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Osfield wrote: > Hi Joan, > > The problems you describe look to most likely to be issues with > display listing of the geometries. It could be that they are just > poorly conditioned datasets - one triangle per geometry is certainly > very

Re: [osg-users] OpenGL 3 announced

2007-08-16 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Osfield wrote: > Hi Jan, > > I'm sorry to hear of your bad experience with lock down of phones, but > there is more to 3d graphics on embedded and mobile systems than the > subset of locked down phones. For the same reason that OpenGL ES has >

Re: [osg-users] OpenGL 3 announced

2007-08-15 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Osfield wrote: > Time is the important thing to consider here. Mobile hardware is > getting more and more capable. There is also a movement in mobile > hardware that geared towards more open systems. > > Take a snapshot today and things don

Re: [osg-users] OpenGL 3 announced

2007-08-15 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Robert Osfield wrote: > Well we do have an OpenGL ES port the go already, if it works out then > we could see support introduced into one of the 2.x series. What I meant was that I am not sure whether it makes sense to spend time on it, not w

Re: [osg-users] OpenGL 3 announced

2007-08-15 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Penn Taylor wrote: > > The following may be the cause of the repository error. Looks like Don > hasn't updated the Producer website yet, but this announcement went out > on the producer-users list last week: > > - > Please do not check o

Re: [osg-users] OpenGL 3 announced

2007-08-14 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Robert Osfield wrote: > Hi Jan, > .. > I wonder if it would be possible for use to write some analysis tools > to find out what OSG API's users are using, to try and get some > profile for what parts will be the most problematic to migrate. >

Re: [osg-users] OpenGL 3 announced

2007-08-14 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rizzen wrote: > I say a clean slate is best. Besides for older applications OSG 2.0 > would still be around to be used. > > OSG 3 = OpenGL 3 is the way I see it. > You obviously do not have to maintain large application compatibility. If somebody to

Re: [osg-users] Compile error in SoftShadowMap.cpp

2007-08-14 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Osfield wrote: > On 8/13/07, Mihai Radu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I hit the same error, looks like a type definition is missing, in my >> case in XP. >> >> Add this above the function that gives the error(line 430): >> >> typedef unsigned in

Re: [osg-users] OpenVRML plugin question

2007-08-14 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Osfield wrote: > We can move the 14.x plugin to deprecated annex of our OSG svn > repository: > > http://www.openscenegraph.org/svn/osg/OpenSceneGraph/deprecated/src/osgPlugins/ > > > There is can live out its life alongside the old OpenFlig

Re: [osg-users] Poll for OpenVRML plugin users

2007-08-13 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Greg, Netschke, Greg wrote: > Hi Jan, > > We've had problems with Boost in other applications; primarily in > Solaris ports and performance. We have dependencies that restrict what > compilers and hence STL we can use. This comes from the exp

[osg-users] Mails in Chinese

2007-08-13 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I wonder whether somebody else is also receiving mails from [EMAIL PROTECTED] which look like this: 您的信已经收到,谢谢 - --- 此致!祝好! It seems to mean (according to Google): "Your letter has been re

[osg-users] Poll for OpenVRML plugin users

2007-08-13 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, As explained before, there is an option to port the OpenVRML plugin to a newer version of OpenVRML, at the cost of having a dependency on Boost. For the moment, the newer version of OpenVRML will not bring any visible benefits to the OSG users

Re: [osg-users] OpenVRML plugin question

2007-08-13 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jean-Sébastien Guay wrote: > Hello Jan, > >> Well, the question is more whether it is worth it - the move to the >> newer OpenVRML version brings only the fact that this version is >> actively developed and will (hopefully) keep building for a foresee

Re: [osg-users] Compile error in SoftShadowMap.cpp

2007-08-13 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mihai Radu wrote: > I hit the same error, looks like a type definition is missing, in my > case in XP. > > Add this above the function that gives the error(line 430): > > typedef unsigned int uint; > Just replace with unsigned, uint is the same thi

Re: [osg-users] Compile error in SoftShadowMap.cpp

2007-08-13 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mikael Karlsson wrote: > Hi, > > I have ran into a compile error in the current SVN version of the file > SoftShadowMap.cpp that I just would like to bring your attention to. The > error is on line 445 which contains a simple const uint definition.

Re: [osg-users] OpenSceneGraph-2.1.5 dev version released

2007-08-13 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Osfield wrote: > Hi All, > > OpenSceneGraph-2.1.5, released on 13th August 2007. Bug fixes > various, improvements to osgViewer, and introduction of support for > soft shadow mapping. The changes to osgViewer were to ensure sharing > of osgView

Re: [osg-users] OpenVRML plugin question

2007-08-13 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Osfield wrote: > Hi Jan, > > On 8/13/07, Jan Ciger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> In fact, if somebody had a small parser for VRML we could ditch OpenVRML >> completely (a big dependency by itself). It was used on

Re: [osg-users] OpenVRML plugin question

2007-08-13 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jean-Sebastien, > > Another alternative would be to decide that the current OpenVRML > plugin works well enough, freeze it as is, and integrate the new one > separately with the understanding that you are only maintaining that > one. If s

Re: [osg-users] OpenVRML plugin question

2007-08-13 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Robert, Robert Osfield wrote: > Hi Jan, > > My inclination would be to get the current VRML plugin into a state > that can be comfortable annexed, and then have a new VRML 0.16.x > version replace it. > OK. > > In the case of the VRML plugin t

Re: [osg-users] Creature3D Game Engine

2007-08-12 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gordon Tomlinson wrote: > > Your site does not show well for USA visitors > > E.g > We just see extended character set text that makes no sense > It is Chinese, GBK encoding. However, it will not help you much unless you happen to be able to read

[osg-users] OpenVRML plugin question

2007-08-12 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello everybody, I have a bit of a dilemma with the OpenVRML plugin. The current version works only with the old OpenVRML version 0.14.3, because the newer versions have changed the API and introduced a dependency on Boost. I have now received a cont

Re: [osg-users] Request for feedback on mailman bounce processing

2007-08-12 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Robert, Robert Osfield wrote: > Hi All, > ... > So what to do about it? Disable bounce processing and just let the > mailman server keep trying to send messages to addresses that just > bounce them all or some of the time? Up the tolerance of bo

Re: [osg-users] osg + tablet pc / umpc

2007-08-10 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Osfield wrote: > Hi Alessandro, > > It all depends upon the availability of hardware accelerated OpenGL. > > Robert. > Also on what kind of hw accelerated OpenGL is available :( These machines are usually designed to have the longest battery

Re: [osg-users] running vrml plugin on 2.0

2007-08-08 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Joan Slottow wrote: > Hi Jan > > I tried sending this to you on July 26 but somehow it went out > without a subject and then I have been away on vacation. Aha, I see. I didn't receive anything from you. > Jan > > Here are three files: test

Re: [osg-users] [Osg-Users] running vrml plugin on 2.0

2007-07-31 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Joan, I have checked the code of the plugin as I promised. Joan Slottow wrote: > > 3) I wrote out a version of it with much less geometry. I was able to > load it in both osgviewer and in my program when I got rid of: > > Group { children [ h

Re: [osg-users] stereo mode

2007-07-31 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thanks Jan for this info. I think now I have to get a Quadro card. ;-) Another option is a converter. There are boxes on the market which can produce sequential stereo out of two inputs. For example, you can render the two

Re: [osg-users] stereo mode

2007-07-31 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > First thanks for fast answer. > >> What graphic card are you using ? > > I'm using an old-fashioned GeForce FX 5900 XT. I will try it with the > newest Nvidia driver hoping that helps. It will not help. Stereo (quad buffer

Re: [osg-users] stereo mode

2007-07-30 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frauciel Luc wrote: > Hi Andreas, > > What graphic card are you using ? QUAD_BUFFER stereo should work on > Nvidia Quadro or ATI FireGL cards, but NOT on basic Nvidia or ATI > cards. For that you'll need Nvidia stereo drivers, that are loosely > maint

Re: [osg-users] [Osg-Users] running vrml plugin on 2.0

2007-07-25 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Joan, > 2) My file has a Material node that looks like: > > appearance Appearance { material Material { } } Which is invalid, because it specifies no material/color. > > 3) I wrote out a version of it with much less geometry. I was able to > lo

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