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Hey Tom. No I decided to try it when I joined a new company. I've been itching to try it (and didn't bother when working from home - laziness). I didn't do it for health reasons other that the nebulous "it's better for you to not sit all day". I'm overweight and I was hoping it would make me lose

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Do they? As a diabetic, I oughta look at this. OTOH being on my feet is a bit contraindicated On 19 Jun. 2017 16:33, "Tony Wright" wrote: > Hi Tom, > > No, not the back for me. They say that your body stops regulating insulin > properly after 4 hours of sitting, and that's about when I was fee

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There are quite a few people in my office now using sit-to-stand desks. I sent a scary article around about a year or so ago about the health issues, but I think it's mostly the availability of reasonable quality converters (Varidesk etc) that's really changed things. I'm between offices too much

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Totally agree on this point. I've been ketogenic for six months now (lost 6kg in the first month, have plateaued now but feel great). Some .net people may know Carl Franklin's been podcasting at 2ketodudes.com, and he's done an awesome job recording his progress. 6 months

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Yep that podcast is fairly good. Veganism also works for losing weight, very hard to eat excess calories on a vegan diet. On Tuesday, 20 June 2017, Stephen Price wrote: > Totally agree on this point. I've been ketogenic for six months now (lost > 6kg in the first month, have plateaued now but fe

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On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 at 08:29 Bec C wrote: > Yep that podcast is fairly good. Veganism also works for losing weight, > very hard to eat excess calories on a vegan diet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0O_VYcsIk8 -- David Connors da...@connors.com | @davidconnors | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363

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Lol don't start something On Tuesday, 20 June 2017, David Connors wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 at 08:29 Bec C > wrote: > >> Yep that podcast is fairly good. Veganism also works for losing weight, >> very hard to eat excess calories on a vegan diet. > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0O_VYcs

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Stop eating my food's food. On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 at 09:03 Bec C wrote: > Lol don't start something > > On Tuesday, 20 June 2017, David Connors wrote: > >> On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 at 08:29 Bec C wrote: >> >>> Yep that podcast is fairly good. Veganism also works for losing weight, >>> very hard to ea

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Rofl I think he finished something, not started it On 20 Jun. 2017 7:03 am, Bec C wrote: Lol don't start something On Tuesday, 20 June 2017, David Connors mailto:da...@connors.com>> wrote: On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 at 08:29 Bec C wrote: Yep that podcast is fairly good. Veganism also works for losing

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Fine. Bloody sociopaths ruined the vegan diet for everyone On Tuesday, 20 June 2017, Stephen Price wrote: > Rofl > I think he finished something, not started it > > On 20 Jun. 2017 7:03 am, Bec C > wrote: > > Lol don't start something > > On Tuesday, 20 June 2017, David Connors > wrote: > > On

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On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 at 09:15 Bec C wrote: > Fine. Bloody sociopaths ruined the vegan diet for everyone You seem very alkaline today Bec. David. -- David Connors da...@connors.com | @davidconnors | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363

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OOTT: At the risk of starting a flame war, I'm going to call shenanigans on this one (sorry Bec). Whilst most vegans probably have very healthy diets (due to increased awareness of what they eat) there's nothing inherent in veganism that actually ensures this, as a quick scan down the vegan society

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Stephen - Off topic too - but if you've found you've stalled on the keto diet have you tried carbing up? Especially if you're lifting weights. One meal on a Saturday night once a week or fortnight is great. Doesn't have to be clean either, I found I'd eat an entire large pizza and within a day m

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You can be an idiot on any diet. I wouldn't believe everything you read either. I've seen studies that totally contradict each other. Just for the record I'm not actually vegan. I tried it a few years ago. As far as losing weight goes it is all about calories. Being healthy is a whole different t

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I'm a vegan. I just choose to run my vegetables through a cow first. On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 at 10:53 Bec C wrote: > You can be an idiot on any diet. I wouldn't believe everything you read > either. I've seen studies that totally contradict each other. > > Just for the record I'm not actually vegan.

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Actually, if you read /r/keto they'll tell you to "keep calm and keto on" - I lost 20kg on keto, and plateaued many times doing that. Just keep doing what you're doing, your body will adjust and adapt and it'll go down again. It's common. Drink a lot of water. I hopped off Keto for a bit for Ch

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OOOTT: Controlling calories has no effect on weight loss. The simple reason for this is that the body adapts its energy usage based on the calories in. Not the other way around. Eat more calories and your body will waste more. Eat less and it will go into low power mode. If your body energy cons

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Fake news by Stephen On Tuesday, 20 June 2017, Stephen Price wrote: > OOOTT: > Controlling calories has no effect on weight loss. The simple reason for > this is that the body adapts its energy usage based on the calories in. Not > the other way around. > Eat more calories and your body will was

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On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 at 11:18 Stephen Price wrote: > Shall we try to bring religion, politics and favourite operating systems > into the thread next? :) > [image: pasted1] -- David Connors da...@connors.com | @davidconnors | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363

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'As far as losing weight goes it is all about calories' Read The Case Against Sugar or Pure White and Deadly, or watch That Sugar Film, or The Men That Made Us Fat. They all make the point that the basic biochemistry (which is well established) *absolutely* disagrees with this. Fat, glucose and fr

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Never said a calorie is a calorie. Anyway try it, cut calories by like 300-500 a day and you will lose weight. Anyway this post was about sit stand desks... On Tuesday, 20 June 2017, Piers Williams wrote: > 'As far as losing weight goes it is all about calories' > > Read The Case Against Sugar

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Yep, agreed. And any of Gary Taub’s content. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com |http://greglow.me From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.c

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Nope. If you cut calories and have any carbs in your system then you will have insulin in your system and your body will be in storing mode. Impossible to lose ANY weight if you are only storing. To bring it back on topic for the list it would be like being only able to append records to a dat

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I'd have to respectfully disagree. Tried it and lost weight. On Tuesday, 20 June 2017, Stephen Price wrote: > Nope. > > If you cut calories and have any carbs in your system then you will have > insulin in your system and your body will be in storing mode. Impossible to > lose ANY weight if you

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Ketogenisis is too close to ketoaccidosis[1] for someone with insulin dependent diabetes to want to try. But if you don't, then sure :) Vegan diets, I suspect work because you have to monitor what you eat to get a balanced diet. Avoid sugar? I do that. Also 'empty carbs' It's unlikely you

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But you did! By suggesting that weight loss is purely about calorie reduction you *are *saying that all calories are equal. It's an implication, but it's still there. The scary bit is that the material I mentioned earlier suggests that not only is this is just plain wrong, but that this message its

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I've been avoiding this conversation. I've had arguments with friends over this. However, I decided to give my two kilojoules since, while its OT, its very relevant to IT types that generally tend to have a sedentary life style. There is a fundamental law of physics at work here: Conservation of

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When I was a wee lad I remember doing science experiments that showed that not all compounds were equal, and some chemical reactions produced more energy than others. If you consume food that doesn't digest it might have lots of calories but you won't be consuming any of those calories. So this who

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A great example of the problem is that almost everyone that’s ever been on shows like “Biggest Loser” are now heavier than when they went on the show. Worse, most now have slower metabolisms and are worse off than if they’d never heard of the show. Yet that sort of caloric reduction and exercise

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So the mechanism as I understand it is like this: - high glucose in bloodstream causes insulin release - insulin tells cells to burn glucose rather than fat for energy consumption, but also triggers fat takeup (blood to storage) - ergo fat + glucose in your blood will cause you to store fat - sucr

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Yep, it’s the same logic that got cholesterol in so much trouble. They assumed that eating cholesterol increased your cholesterol level. Never been true though yet it was widely promoted and stopped people eating eggs, etc. for decades. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) off

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As an ex-scientist, and generally fairly technical person, this is always the argument I've previously believed. However, the problem with this mindset is that it does assume that the body is just a store for energy, and that all energy within that system is accessed equally and symmetrically. Inst

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I should point out the significant but possibly overlooked statement: "kilojoules _absorbed_ from food" as opposed to "consumed". They are different. The path a particular chemical takes in our body ultimately doesn't matter. If the useful energy we ultimately get from everything we eat is great

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Fair enough, and that raises a great point: we are not all the same. In Taubes' book he make the point that the ancient Egyptians noted that too much sugar makes *some people* fat. Apparently we all have different personal tolerances to high-sugar diets, presumably genetic. But that's the same wit

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I understand conservation of energy, the problem here is that extrapolating from that to weight loss strategy is a specious argument. If you reduce the energy intake on a human you don't immediately start triggering fat burning: you can also trigger reduced effort expended (both directly, and a red