RE: Visual Studio 2017 and WWF

System.Workflow was originally released in .NET 3.0/Vista timeframe (2006) – but “RTM” designer support was added in VS 2008. It’s unfortunate that we need to deprecate features – but very little usage and non-trivial cost to move it to VS 2017 (due to the rewritten setup), the decision was

Re: [OT] Aurelia use

Hi Tom, It doesn't appear to have achieved the take up necessary to make it in the enterprise. Also, Rob Eisner has gone and joined Microsoft and doesnt appear to have done much with it since. The three biggest players are now Vue, react and angular. I wrote an article on this which you can

Re: [OT] Aurelia use

> > https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/which-javascript-framework-should-i-choose- > enterprise-tony-wright > Nice summary, but it seems to confirm my fears that the JS ecosystem is still devolving into more fragments. I mean, oh lord, not another one ... Vue.js -- *GK*

Re: Visual Studio 2017 and WWF

On a completely unrelated note, I got a call from a recruiter who's found me roles in the past (there's a couple of good ones - recruiters, that is) for a Silverlight role. I laughed and said, really? Someone is looking for a Silverlight developer?! He replied yes. To remove it. I just about

Re: Visual Studio 2017 and WWF

I think I found the answer here: *Thank you for your feedback! The .NET 3.5 Workflow project type is no longer supported in VS2017. This is by design as WF from .NET 3.5 (System.Workflow) has been deprecated since 2012. While you will not be able to create new projects, it is still possible to

Re: Visual Studio 2017 and WWF

No, I think you will find it should be able to open. Our workflow projects are very old, and they open just fine. We did upgrade them from .Net 3.5 to 4.0 last year, but this was literally just a matter of changing the framework target, there was no other change required. Looking at the

Re: Visual Studio 2017 and WWF

Funnily enough we had to do this at my work, and I can confirm it is indeed possible. To get Workflow to work need to install  Office\SharePoint development switch to individual components tab in the install, and select Windows Workkflow Foundation (ref: 

Re: [OT] Aurelia use

Yep I did notice that in the core 2.0 update. Angular 2/4 never really felt right to me. Aurelia felt much better. I'll have to take a look at Vue now. On Thursday, 24 August 2017, Tony Wright wrote: > Interestingly, dot net core 2.0, which was released a couple of weeks

Re: [OT] Aurelia use

After doing all the research I chose angular for my current enterprise application. I had to choose a technology that could withstand an assault from people who are still in a circa 2000 mindset. It's non trivial but will do everything I need it to. There's so much to learn just to get going on

Re: [OT] Aurelia use

Yep I resisted for a long time and stayed with winforms lol but am now forced to look at this stuff. On Thursday, 24 August 2017, Tony Wright wrote: > After doing all the research I chose angular for my current enterprise > application. I had to choose a technology that

Re: [OT] Aurelia use

Thanks Tony. I will have a look. I tried React and can't believe anyone would ever bother with it - absolutely atrocious compared to Aurelia! On Thursday, 24 August 2017, Tony Wright wrote: > Hi Tom, > > It doesn't appear to have achieved the take up necessary to make it in

Re: [OT] Aurelia use

Reading the jargon in this short thread so far still fills me with dread and fear. I think people who are using (and writing) JS frameworks are to close to their subject to see the bigger picture of what's happening. From a historical, technical and creative perspective, the whole JS ecosystem is

Re: [OT] Aurelia use

Haha nice. I'm so glad I don't have to use pure javascript. Typescript is my client language of choice. The reality is that you can shift a fair bit of workload from the server to the browser by utilising javascript frameworks, and at the same time get a much more responsive, rich, snappy web

Re: [OT] Aurelia use

I'm one of the lovers of Aurelia (and I know Wal also on this list uses Aurelia). For me Aurelia is has one of the best designs possible. Clean and easy to use. Everything is simply obvious. With Aurelia I never had to think "how do you do this or that". It's all simple and natural. DI is

Re: [OT] Aurelia use

Totally agree. First Angular2 and then React almost turned me off Web dev altogether but Aurelia gave me hope... not so sure now that Aurelia doesn't look like is getting much love to keep it alive. On Thursday, 24 August 2017, Corneliu I. Tusnea wrote: > I'm one of the

Re: [OT] Aurelia use

I agree with you Corneliu the angular 2 syntax makes you go "what the hell were they thinking!" especially given that angular 1 was far easier, far more intuitive to use. But you do get used to it. Perhaps Rob Eisenberg is doing something awesome for Microsoft and we'll see some magic there. If

Re: [OT] Aurelia use

I must say I agree. I don't know a better alternative but working in JS land or even TS still feels dirty. This can't be the way it will stay. On Thursday, 24 August 2017, Greg Keogh wrote: > Reading the jargon in this short thread so far still fills me with dread > and fear.

Re: Visual Studio 2017 and WWF

Lol actually if anyone of our clients want Webforms work out of us we always say only if we are replacing it, we don't do enhancements. On Thursday, 24 August 2017, Stephen Price wrote: > On a completely unrelated note, I got a call from a recruiter who's found > me

Re: [OT] Aurelia use

A quick check of https://github.com/aurelia/framework/commits/master shows that it is very much alive and well and Rob is still active there. Also, interesting to note that Aurelia does work with ASP.NET Core. True, it isn't currently one of the 'out of the box' templates like Angular or React