Title: URGENT Victorian Election Rally - Wed Nov 13
Hi Justine,
Please let me know when the venue for the rally has
been confirmed. I will be there with bells on! Be good to meet you
too.
Regards
Sally
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From:
Justine Caines
To: OzMid List ; [EMAIL
In a message dated 8/11/02 10:05:31 PM AUS Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi,
Needing some help to clarify the difference between haemoglobin levels and
ferritin levels.
Have a local GP who switches between the two readings depending on which one
is lowest and
Dear list,
On a film/documentary on rape a counsellor made the
following statement,Closure is a myth, a woman after
being raped is never the same.She then quoted a case
where a woman never slept more than 2-3 hours,wore
runners to bed( she thought that if she had being
wearing runners she could
Hi Gabrielle,
Is that the Gabe who used to work in Mareeba?
Irene Munro
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Title: URGENT Victorian Election Rally - Wed Nov 13
Yes Please - tell me where the rally
is
Pinky
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From:
Sally
Williams
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 7:43
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] URGENT
Victorian Election
Hi again all,
had an interesting afternoon today at a BBQ with some old work mates...One friend who I worked at CSIRO with eons ago (past life stuff) like me had a radical change in occupation and went to do nursing...she finished her nursing about 8 years agoanyhowshe brought a
Title: Message
Ooh,
Kirsten... I was in Minneapolis last October for the Lamaze conference...the air
sure had a bite to it then so cant even imagine how chilly it gets getting
towards Christmas...
from
Sunny Queensland... Vicki
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Hey
Tina nuff nuff...nah, dont believe that you were lost for words for a minute!!!
You still sure managed to say quite a bit!!
One
thing I'd really like to do is present my (our...Nic and Vic) stuff to the med
students/medicos/obstetricians...
Vicki
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Title: Message
this
fine bit of teaching I just came across from the uni of melb obs and gobs...
should set our little hearts at rest...
Primigravida
Labour often begins slowly (the latent
phase). False alarms or spurious labour are common. The duration of labour
averages 14 h,
Ann,
I think you are right - I think that after a "birth rape" experience
a woman does not find closure at all.
I think that if she is as lucky as i have been and finds wonderful
people like all of you to both vent to and to shed some understanding of
Title: Message
that's about an hour from me, I'm in
Rochester.
And last year was an incredibly MILD
winter.
Kirsten
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From:
Vicki Chan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 4:45
AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] chilly Minnesota
Hi Lorraine,
No, this is not something we offer ( not that I haven't thought about it,
however!). I think there is a real need for some kind of course to help
midwives make the move from hospital to home births, but until we sort out
the insurance issues etc it is probably not the right time
Thanks Sally. I agree, having experienced the political climate of at least
2 types of midwives, I wouldn't like to see a regulated division either.
However, I think that is very unlikely in Australia given the very different
herstories of midwifery in North America and here. There, midwifery as
On 6/11/02 5:37 AM, Rachel Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Jan and Midwife Staff,
I am Australian although I am currently working in the United States. Our
organisation works with high school and university students placing them
into internship abroad poisitions in order for them to
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Private health midwives
On 8/11/02 9:25 PM, Robin Moon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone know of any references pertaining to Midwives working in the Private system, specifically in Australia? Cinahl is coming up blank for me.
thanks,
Robin
Hi Robin
What type
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Absolutely Vicki,because if there's no
contrast between dehumanized birth vis a vis humanized birth they don't know.
I want to help in this regard.
Love
lizmc
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From:
Vicki Chan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 09,
Ladies if it is any consolation from the point of view of a consumer and a fellow acaedemic.
1. You are right if we trust each other and you respect my wishes whilst making sure I fully understand the implications of what I am asking (demanding in some cases) then I am less likely to sue. A
Hello all,
I'm just thinking,with the abundance of
'horror stories' ie violent births, is there a possibility of a 'class
action' against medicalized childbirth and maternity services through the
Commonwealth Ombudsman. Would this force change??
any comments? any lawyers?
Dear Ozmidders,
My name is Tory Howell and I am a first year
midwifery student in Adelaide. I am writing to ask if their are any midwives in
the Gold Coast region that could help my sister-in-law. She is due on the 11th
of January but has been told to have a c-section. I saw her not long
Listers,
"obstetrician actually said that she could try a
vaginal birth but a hospital based midwife told her to go for the c-section
option"
There is continuing peril in our midst.
What an opportunity for education!! Roll on Vicki and
Nic!
love
lizmc
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!!
love
lizmc
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From:
Vicki Chan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 12:42
AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] obs and gobs
this
fine bit of teaching I just came across from the uni of melb obs and gobs...
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Private health midwives
Jan,
I may have been a little confusing. I was referring
to Midwives working in Private Hospitals, not in Private practise. I am looking
for any references to any papers written about them. So far it's a blank
slate.
Robin
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hello all, I'm writing this in a rush, busy marking third year students
assignments - so forgive me if it is a bit...errambly - but all this is
too interesting and important for me not to comment. I really appreciate the
stories and am constantly amazed at our human capacity to function and
Title: Love of Midwifery
Dear list,
This is Fiona. I just want to let everyone know how thoughtful and appreciative your replys were. I will go on and l will keep fighting. You are all my inspiration to continue to provide the best possible care to women and their families. In Mildura, we
Howdy Tori!!!
just wanted to say hi...it was great to meet you in Adelaide...
cheers Tina P.
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] indoctrination
Exactly what I thought Liz, you beauty, the rquired workforce of Obs for the 10% who need them now we need to get all those midwives back who walked away... and those beautiful Bmidders!!!
Justine
Tina,
sheer arrogance and lack of understanding of
Dear Lois
So precise and concise
A great revision for us all
thank you
Denise
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From: Lois Wattis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Haemoglobin and ferritin levels
Haemoglobin is a pigment
But who exactly would the "class action" be against?
Nobody wants to take responsibility and what you would find is that
the gaverning bodies would pass it onto individual doctors and then they
would have the age old catch cry "No proof" or "But the outcome
It is very difficult to maintain your stance in the face of 'studies' and
'research' and 'hospital policy' and 'midwives' agreeing with the quack. Unless
you are very strong, and have very supportive support people and a sympathici
midwife, don't present to hospital until bub's head is out. It is
Title: Message
Why in the hell did she lie still for that?
It is impossible to insert an epidural into an un-cooperative person.
she must have agreed and
co-operated. Maureen.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vicki
Me
again. No , no c/s. Just let your body take it's time. If you
feel it's all going too quick, the knee-chest position is good, takes the
pressure off the peri and allows for stretching. My advice for next time is
don't push, breathe the bubby out, have a home-birth or go to a liberal
Thankyou.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery;acegraphics.com.au]On Behalf Of Denise Hynd
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 9:22 PM
To: Rene Kemp; Rebecca Glover; Ken B; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jacquie; Eddy,
Helen; di lucas; Diane Brennan; ANNE FLINT
Cc: [EMAIL
Maureen'sadvice on pushing certainly rings true with me. With my last delivery I arrived and was assessed as 7cm, the very next contraction I got the pushing urge. My midwife did not insist on checking to make sure I was 10cm she justtold me to go with it. There was no "push push" coaching just
But - Oh the power play and the woman feels so unable to refuse these
things.
The Obstetric dominance can bend a woman into doing things that she
woudl not otherswise do. I don't think we can judge her for
that.
regards
Rhonda.
Carolyn,
Where what do you teach?
Kind regards,
Jen
BMid student, Victoria University
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From: Heartlogic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, November 9, 2002 4:02 pm
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Obs, brainwashing, hypnobirthing and horror
stories - long
hello all,
How about maternity services??
Look at smokers with their class action against big tobacco - big tobacco
was caught out because they lied; they manipulated nicotine levels in
cigarettes.
Maternity services and hospitals purport to provide safety and the best
for women,
Hi Jen,
The marking I was refering to is for 3rd year nursing students at Newcastle
Uni. I was co-opted at the last minute as they (the uni) were desperate as
someone had dropped out at the second to last minute from the casual
teaching pool. I have been employed as a part time, academic mentor
WE MUST HAVE SUPPORT FOR THE GREENS IN MELBOURNE ON
WEDNESDAY 13TH NOVEMBER AT 11AM.
Venue to be informed. Read
on..
The issue of PI insurance is very
complex. If the Labor govt is returned, it intends to change the
various Acts to make insurance
mandatory as a condition of
Rhonda said:
"But - Oh the power play and the
woman feels so unable to refuse these things.
The Obstetric dominance can bend a woman into doing things that she
woudl not otherswise do. I don't think we can judge her for that."
Very true. Have you never done anything that
you would rather
I'm sure there is someone on the list in this area, but breastfeeding seems
to have sapped any memory cells from my atrophied brain!! This request was
on the Essential Baby website, thought I'd post it here and see if anyone
can help...
Can anyone point me in the direction of a midwife (or two)
Title: Message
I
wonder what our vaginas and pelvic floors are supposed to comply with? Or whom?
This lack of faith in women and what they can do seems to be the legacy of a
past time.for a good read see Reading Birth and Death (jo Murphy-Lawless)
and Sex and Suffering (Janet
And a shock of white blonde hairÂ…. Perfect
I have also had a baby born with a crop of white blonde hair, it is truly
beautiful.
He was born in the water and to have a baby lifted through the water and
this halo of white hair floating around the head, is a sight to be seen.
cheers
Megan
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Hi
Tory'
my
thoughts on the varicose vein is that yoga may help. I havea beauty in my
right groin, starts somewhere up higher and finishes down my inner thigh.
Pregnancy causes it to swell and bulge. I have been doing yoga for 5 years and
three pregnancies later it has never caused me a
Has anyone have any suggestions for a mum who is pregnant with baby number
four, about 13 weeks, but developed cholestasis with her last baby.
Fortunately it was very late into her pregnancy and she birthed vaginally
after an induction, all going well. I have some info that was posted 12
months
Hey thats my post!! What a small world the net can be... :)
But yes- if anyone can point me in the direction of a couple of midwives in
this area, I would be truly grateful!!
Cheers- Isis
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