in thought and heart
and life!
Love to you and them - Lynne
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From: Lieve Huybrechts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 8:48 AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come together
Dear friends,
Thank you all for the nice replys
Hugs to you too Lynne,
you ladies are real angels,
Pinky
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From: Lynne Staff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come together
Dear Lieve
I was only this morning at a beautiful
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From: Lieve Huybrechts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 8:48 AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come together
Dear friends,
Thank you all for the nice replys and warmfull thoughts for me and the
family.
I will tell you now what followed
Huybrechts
Sent: Monday, 17 March 2003 9:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come together
Dear friends,
For those that weren't at the list at my first posting:
When Nele was 22 weeks pregnant, ultrasound showed a severe heartdefect. The
baby wouldn't have any
Dear Lieve: I am wordless, but my heart goes out to you and Lars and his
family.
marilyn
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From: Lieve Huybrechts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 2:48 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come together
Dear friends
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marilyn
Kleidon
Sent: Friday, 21 March 2003 3:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come together
and try to understand.
Love and hugs to you all,
Pinky
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From: Julie Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 11:13 AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come together
Dear Lieve
It seems to me that you are being
sorry that should be now will you give him all your love
Pinky
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From: Pinky McKay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come together
Hi Lieve,
You are an angel to this family
In a message dated 3/20/03 6:51:37 AM W. Australia Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Now they got already so much.
They feel privileged and very happy, but grieve is so close. Laughter and
tears go hand in hand.
What will the futur bring???
Lieve
I had tears in my eyes as I finished
Subject: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come together
Dear friends,
Thank you all for the nice replys and warmfull thoughts for me and the
family.
I will tell you now what followed.
Monday morning Lars was still very alive and alert. He drank several times
during the night, pied, made
: Pinky McKay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come together
Hi Lieve,
You are an angel to ths family. I have a wee story that may be of
comfort -
it was read at my brothers second child's funeral
Peace to you all on this journey.
Sally Westbury
Homebirth Midwife
Birth is as safe as life gets.
--Harriett Hartigan
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 8:36 AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come together
Dear friends,
For those that weren't at the list at my first posting:
When Nele was 22 weeks pregnant, ultrasound showed a severe heartdefect.
The
baby wouldn't have any chance
Dear Lieve
I have been wondering since your first very moving post about this baby and the
family. Thank you for sharing his birth with us all. I hope his remaining time goes
peacefully and lovingly.
Love to you all Margie
At Sun, 16 Mar 2003 23:06:49 +0100,
Lieve Huybrechts ([EMAIL
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, 17 March
2003 08:25:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re:
[ozmidwifery] When birth and death come together
Love and strength to you lieve,There are many of
us thinking of Lars
Dear friends,
For those that weren't at the list at my first posting:
When Nele was 22 weeks pregnant, ultrasound showed a severe heartdefect. The
baby wouldn't have any chance to live and was inoperable. They already
choose for a homebirth. Against a lot of advice to quit the pregnancy at
that
Dear Lieve, I have no advice for you, only congratulations on such a loving
act. The only baby I had like that (unknown until 14 days old) went to
hospital at 2weeks of age, stayed there a few days then home to family until
he died 2 weeks later, The time at home after he was born (lovely
Hoi Julie and all of you,
I went to the womans home yesterday evening. All is prepared for the birth.
They have a swimmingpool in the livingroom for labor and maybe birth.
They decided to keep the baby in the house till the cremation and arranged
already a lot of the ceremony. They really want to
Hi Lieve,
I was just thinking about you and your wonderful mother to be. Wondering
how you all were going.
In peace and joy
Sally Westbury
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Hi Sally,
We are doing fine. I had 5 wonderfull births this month and two to go.
The mother and her husband are doing a wonderfull job. She started working
again. She is a music teacher and gives gitar lessons. She explained the
situation to all her students (range from 12y to adults) herself
Lieve Lieve,
Wat is het mooi. You're doing wonderful things for your people. I wish you
sterkte and liefde.
Aviva
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Hi Lieve, Maybe when this baby's being borne you can tell us and we can all pray or think special thoughts in our own way to help this child on its journey. Ihope that this may be of some support. I'm thinking of you, wishing you strength and wisdom. Love Julie'', . - Original Message -
Hoi Mary and others of the list,
That's a thing that is of our concern. We don't know how long the baby has
to live, nobody can forsay that and the parents are also worried on how the
baby is going to die.
I am glad that you gave this information.
Maybe in my messages it sounds if I have worked
Dear Lieve,
The other thought that I have had on this is about when my grandfather
died.
He had cancer and we nursed him at home(I was a 15 year old at the time)
until the very last when my grandmother suddenly wanted to go to
hospital because she didn't want him to die in their bed, didn't
Lieve Lieve,
Wij staan allemaal te samen met jullie. Veel sterkte aan jullie.
Veel liefs,
Aviva
- Original Message -
From: Lieve Huybrechts
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come
together
Hoi Mary
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come together
Dankjewel Aviva
Veel groetjes ginder
Lieve
On 02-12-2002 14:37, Aviva Sheb'a [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lieve Lieve,
Wij staan allemaal te samen met jullie. Veel sterkte aan jullie.
Veel liefs,
Aviva
- Original Message
this as an option.
Love to the family and yourself
Megan.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lieve
Huybrechts
Sent: Monday, 2 December 2002 8:15
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come together
Dear friends
"I got the idea that the Melbourne hospital is the only
hospitalin Australia with the staff and facilities to provide the
care. Don't knowwhere this care is available overseas."
I think that it would be well worth looking into this and finding out
.
Robin
- Original Message -
From:
Julie Garratt
To: ozmid
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 6:41
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] When birth and
death come together
DearLieve,
There is a wonderful Australian video called "Some Babies Die" It wa
Dear friends,
Thanks for your advices and sharing.
The baby is inoperable. The left side of the heart is not there, the aorta
is hihgly underdeveloped, so as soon as the ductus of botalli closes the
baby will go into a coma. Only a transplantation could help and that's
impossible, they only do it
Good luck Lieve, you bring tears to my eyes -you are such a special person.
The couple and their baby are lucky to have you.
Pinky
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From: Lieve Huybrechts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 8:45 AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] When birth
al Message---
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, December
02, 2002 09:08:24
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ozmidwifery]
When birth and death come together
Dear friends,Thanks for your advices and
sharing.The baby is inoperable. The
Hi Lieve, 8 yrs ago I had a woman who had an U/S at 20 wks for her 4th baby
(never had one before) and there were no abnomalities picked up on
examination. Subsequently, she had a lovely homebirth waterbirth and had a
little boy with good weight and APGARS. He wasn't as vigorous as the other
ding thing for us.
I hope it all goes as well as can be expected and that this sad event will also bring them a little joy as they meet their beautiful little angel.
Debby
From: Lieve Huybrechts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [o
: Saturday, November 30, 2002 7:46 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come together
Dear list,
I have a mother due in march. During the ultrasound on 22 weeks the gyn
discovered something was wrong with the heart of the baby. The expertise
ultrasound showed that the left side
where this care is available overseas.
marilyn
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From: Carole Gilmour [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come together
Dear Lieve
This sounds like hypoplastic heart
Dear Lieve,
These people must be exceptional people to choose this pathway on this
journey. Many people take a different pathway and end their pregnancy at
this junction.
I have not experienced this in my homebirth journey.
I think/feel that all the same things apply as for any birth, with
02 1:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] When birth and death come together Dear list,I have a mother due in march. During the ultrasound on 22 weeks the gyndiscovered something was wrong with the heart of the baby. The expertiseultrasound showed that the left side of the heart is not
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