RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article

2006-09-22 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly
Believe what you want Felicity and nice that you are defending your friend, but the fact is for the last week, I have had nothing but emails of support and encouragement in private (they think the conference is a brilliant idea) and this is the first negative response I have had. I must

Re: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article

2006-09-22 Thread Lisa Barrett
I- Every contribution counts and whilst I think I understand the point you're trying to make about reaching the mainstream, it's dangerous to begin tempering our message to better enable us to begin "marketing" it to the majority gratuitously - women and babies are not a

Re: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article

2006-09-22 Thread Janet Fraser
Beautifully said, Lisa. Thank you! J - Original Message - From: Lisa Barrett To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article I- Every contribution counts and

[ozmidwifery] Conflict

2006-09-22 Thread Andrea Bilcliff
I'm not as articulate as many on this list but I just wanted to say thatconflict is really, really draining. This is not directed at anyone in particular (or justlimited to participants of this list)but it's something that I'm noticing more and more in the 'birthing world'. No wonder we as

Re: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article

2006-09-22 Thread diane
Not everyones home is a haven. For some it can represent other moreless savourythings, the least of being an ongoing place of toil, the worst being a place of fear and domestic violence. The memories flood of a half renovated (for 10 yrs), with no internal walls in places, no floor

RE: [ozmidwifery] Conflict

2006-09-22 Thread Megan Larry
Actually, this situation is not unique. My husband returned from a "Friends of" Recreational Park conservation meeting the other night and a quite heated and passionate discussion took placewith opposing views. Some just want to cut out all the olives and some want to be purists. The truth

Re: [ozmidwifery] New South Wales Health Booklet on Breastfeeding

2006-09-22 Thread Barbara Glare Chris Bright
Hi, Please don't make up breastfeeding packages from photocopied info etc. As midwives, your time is waaay too precious. The Australian Breastfeeding Association has great information that is so cheap it's sinful. And it's well-researched, up to date, well written etc and beautifully

Re: [ozmidwifery] lactation consultant query

2006-09-22 Thread diane
Hi Michelle, Im up for my first recertification in 2009. I could just resit the exam or get enough CERPS. Both arent cheap. Finding time to keep up with both midwifery and lactation conferences is hard and expensive. I can probably only justify one every two years to be fair on my family!

Re: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article

2006-09-22 Thread Janet Fraser
'long haired hairy leggged hippy homebirth faction' Oh Diane that's a crack up, made me laugh a lot to hear that old furphy still getting a work out : ) Please let your friend know that statistically home birthing women are middle class and tertiary educated. Tree loving or leg shaving I

Re: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article

2006-09-22 Thread diane
LOL , was my response to her almost! - Original Message - From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article 'long haired hairy leggged hippy homebirth faction' Oh

Re: [ozmidwifery] Conflict

2006-09-22 Thread Stephen Felicity
Very well said, Megan. - Original Message - From: Megan Larry To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 5:52 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Conflict Actually, this situation is not unique. My husband returned from a

[ozmidwifery] agonising pain described by Vic govt

2006-09-22 Thread diane
OMG, check this out Childbirth - pain relief options The current popularity of natural childbirth can make some pregnant women believe that using pain-relieving drugs during labour is ‘weak’ or a sign of ‘failure’. However, childbirth is one of

Re: [ozmidwifery] New South Wales Health Booklet on Breastfeeding

2006-09-22 Thread Grant and Louise McLeod
I'll second that Barb... Actually (But I don't have it in front of me) I think the NSW Health BF Policy - which is mandatory to comply with - states professionally presentedbrochures and booklet must be used. WithABA's BF Confidence and Breastfeeding While Naturaland the new BF booklet and

Re: [ozmidwifery] lactation consultant query

2006-09-22 Thread Grant and Louise McLeod
Michelle, there isn't one LC course -you don't necessarily need to do one to be an IBCLC you just have to qualify and sit the exam. A few friends of mine just swatted big time. I did a short course, some packages etc. APLES based in Sydney, also do 2 day catch ups there is one through

Re: [ozmidwifery] agonising pain described by Vic govt

2006-09-22 Thread Janet Fraser
I wonder what idiot wrote that? I'm still stuck on the idea that NCB is "popular" these days. Where is that? Let me go there immediately! *shaking head* J - Original Message - From: diane To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 7:09

RE: [ozmidwifery] agonising pain described by Vic govt

2006-09-22 Thread Roberta Quinn
My GP told mea similar thing when I said I was planning a homebirth. First, he wrote in my notes that I wanted to try for a homebirth. Then he told me that while homebirth has become very trendy these days and lots of women would like to think they can have a homebirth, that I should

[ozmidwifery] promoting home birth/ midwives

2006-09-22 Thread Pinky McKay
Hi all - at the risk of possibly sounding 'commercial' there is a lovely discussion started on my forum re homebirth - your comments may help some mummies make empowered choices. Thanks Kylie if you are also on this list. - look under "Last day" -I dont have a very big forum but the women

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2006-09-22 Thread The Fairbairn Family
Could I be taken off list - as we are moving Thanks

Re: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article

2006-09-22 Thread Lisa Barrett
- Original Message - From: Tania Smallwood To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 5:19 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article I have worked as a Registered Nurse, in Psychiatry, and also as a Midwife, and I

RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article

2006-09-22 Thread Tania Smallwood
I think we are thinking the same things Lisajust saying them differently! Absolutely agree, I think we all have to keep in mind that even in a perfect world, where women all know and acknowledge what is truly best and safest, there will still be those that are not ready to hear it. Thats

[ozmidwifery] High Court makes landmark transfusion order - Ireland

2006-09-22 Thread Tracy Donegan
I dont even know where to begin with this..she is mentally competent and has refused a life saving intervention and is to be restrained if she refuses.what is to stop the hospital enforcing a cesareanor other intervention... Can any midwives on this list help me understand how a

Re: [ozmidwifery] lactation consultant query

2006-09-22 Thread Joy Cocks
Hi Michelle, I did my initial education and revision for 10 yr recertification with Maureen Minchin (in person).I found that I could remember things from her method of teaching. I also attended breastfeeding conferences whenever I could, particularly ALCA conferences. Istudied and studied

[ozmidwifery] Doppler u/s

2006-09-22 Thread Roberta Quinn
Can anyone tell me the difference between a hand-held doppler and a visual ultrasound macine? Is a hand-held doppler a lesser evil?

Re: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article

2006-09-22 Thread Sadie
GO MARY Luv Sadie - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 6:51 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article Tania rightly says ”I have never gotten used to the

Re: [ozmidwifery] Doppler u/s

2006-09-22 Thread Andrea Quanchi
Its all in the strength of the machine and the length of exposureAndreaOn 23/09/2006, at 9:52 AM, Roberta Quinn wrote:Can anyone tell me the difference between a hand-held doppler and a visual ultrasound macine? Is a hand-held doppler a lesser evil? 

Re: [ozmidwifery] Doppler u/s

2006-09-22 Thread Jo Watson
When researching for my own preg I found that doppler and CTG is more direct and therefore more intense than visualno refs sorry, BF at keyboardJo :)On 23/09/2006, at 7:52 AM, Roberta Quinn wrote:Can anyone tell me the difference between a hand-held doppler and a visual ultrasound macine? Is a

[ozmidwifery] Re: conflict?

2006-09-22 Thread Janet Fraser
I'd have to say I have a somewhat different view from this after nearly twenty years of feminist activism. I dislike the idea that women are a homogeneous group who must all stand shoulder to shoulder without question or compromise to achieve our goals. I know Condoleeza Rice and I have