RE: [ozmidwifery] How long before synto is used?

2006-06-14 Thread Dean & Jo
I supported a woman a few months back who had a SROM but no labour for a day or two. She was a birth centre mum but didn’t tell me or them abut the ROM. We went in and they said she would have to birth in labour ward now as it had been 48 hours. This wonderful gorgeous first time mum said "I wil

RE: [ozmidwifery] Keillands Deliveries

2006-05-31 Thread Dean & Jo
Interestingly, The cs forum from Sat showed that the rise in cs rate can NOT be attributed to cs replacing instrumental vaginal births. The cs rates increased but the IVD remained the similar in rates. -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 /

[ozmidwifery] Every choice is equal..but some are more equal than others

2006-05-31 Thread Dean & Jo
At the CS forum in Vic on the weekend I discussed how differently choice/fears are concerned when it comes to birthing women: A woman can choose to birth cs for no medical indicator But A woman trying to choose to have a NATURAL vaginal birth is less supported A woman who is terrified of vaginal

RE: [ozmidwifery] VBAC

2006-05-19 Thread Dean & Jo
Title: Message external wound infections are different to the internal wound are they not?  External should not impact on vbac success. -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/337 - Release Date: 5/11/2006

RE: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth

2006-05-18 Thread Dean & Jo
Surely if they are (natural, normal, unintervened) it means they don't' need medical assistance? What is the real question? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean & Jo Sent: Friday, 19 May 2006 7:10 AM To: ozmidwifery@aceg

[ozmidwifery] Natural Birth

2006-05-18 Thread Dean & Jo
Request from another list: Most specifically, I'm looking for what percentage of (natural, normal, unintervened) births actually need intervention/medical assistance. There's a tricky one! -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database:

RE: [ozmidwifery] VBAC

2006-05-17 Thread Dean & Jo
Title: Message VBAC success rate for someone who had birthed by cs for previous twin birth   79%     Effect of prior vaginal delivery or prior vaginal birth after caesarean delivery on obstetric outcomes in women undergoing trial of labor. Obstet Gynecol. 2004 Aug;104(2):273-7 Hendler I, B

RE: [ozmidwifery] article FYI

2006-05-10 Thread Dean & Jo
I know I haven't actually read this whole article but I have read the title and intro PLEASE!!! Why can they NOT stop blaming women for cs rates? You are too posh; too young; too old; too indigenous; too fat; too risky; too stupid. I don’t actually see the women with scalpels in th

RE: [ozmidwifery] MOY interview

2006-05-05 Thread Dean & Jo
Title: Message Zeshi won midwife of the year and Lareen Newman won advocate of the year.  The J&J midwife of the year was Patrice O'Loughlin   (sorry about spelling) -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sharonSent: Saturday, M

RE: [ozmidwifery] new idea

2006-05-03 Thread Dean & Jo
Great letters everyone! But remember when anyone is spouting stats on rupture rates, the 1 in 200 ruptures are not all fatal ruptures. In fact the .2% was an 'estimated' rate (quote) from the 2001 Australian vbac management study. There were NO maternal deaths, only hysterectomies and there were

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: International Midwives Day Dinner

2006-04-19 Thread Dean & Jo
Title: Message Sounds beautifulI thought you were saying 'eat your greens' as in get rid of your green scrubs as midwives not being focused on the operating theatre...   boy! No guessing where my minds at!!! :o)   Ha Ha Jo -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: International Midwives Day Dinner

2006-04-19 Thread Dean & Jo
Title: Message Just for clarification Barbara...what 'greens' were you referring too?? ;o) I love it!!! -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barbara StokesSent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 4:36 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.

[ozmidwifery] Margie Perkins

2006-04-12 Thread Dean & Jo
Margie, can you please contact me off list? Cheers Jo Bainbridge -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.0/304 - Release Date: 4/7/2006 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit

RE: [ozmidwifery] Uterine Rupture Risk

2006-04-08 Thread Dean & Jo
Title: Message make sure this woman sees this- perhaps the 'expert' might benefit too   Increased success of trial of labor after previous vaginal birth after caesarean. Obstet Gynecol. 2004 Oct;104(4):715-9 Gyamfi C, Juhasz G, Gyamfi P, Stone JL. OBJECTIVE: To estimate whether a history o

RE: [ozmidwifery] PPH & C/S

2006-03-31 Thread Dean & Jo
Title: Message In Effective Care there is some information about how active management can actually contribute to PPH.  2001 edition.  It could be something she would like to consider.  I think her biggest battles will lie in the VBA2C and big babies.  There have been two recent studies whic

RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth Attendant / Doula Directory

2006-03-30 Thread Dean & Jo
Title: Message understand where you are coming from with all this Kelly.  I would like to talk about this further in a not so public forumone day! :o) Jo  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly @ BellyBellySent: Thursd

RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth Attendant / Doula Directory

2006-03-29 Thread Dean & Jo
Title: Message Ho different would your register be to the Australian Doula Register Kelly?  I think  it would be detrimental to have too many different registers as it will show greater fractionalising of the profession.   Jo Bainbridge -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECT

[ozmidwifery] Getting off list

2006-03-17 Thread Dean & Jo
I have tried a few times to get off this list with no success. Followed the right path etc but still here! Any suggestions? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.5/284 - Release Date: 3/17/2006 -- This mailing list is

RE: [ozmidwifery] trials

2006-03-04 Thread Dean & Jo
Title: Message the sad thing is that she works at a teaching hospital where they have only one thing they are familiar with -managed birth...so they are perpetuating the status quo.  it is sad Mary. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.37

[ozmidwifery] Pelvic floor

2006-03-04 Thread Dean & Jo
Mode of Delivery and Pelvic Floor Dysfunction: a Systematic Review of the Literature on Urinary and Fecal Incontinence and Sexual Dysfunction by Mode of Delivery CME/CE Authors: Joshua Press, MD; Michael C. Klein, MD, CFPC, FCFP, FAAP (Neonatal-Perinatal), FCPS, ABFP; Peter von Dadelszen, DPhil, FR

RE: [ozmidwifery] trials

2006-03-04 Thread Dean & Jo
Title: Message vaginal birth not achieved in 24 hours misoprostol 46.0% v dinoprostone 41.2%   okay so if 46% did not birth vaginally and 22.7% had cs what happened to the other  23.3% that didn't birth vaginally   Also, are women going to be told that they have almost a 50% chance of

RE: [ozmidwifery] pelvic floor information

2006-02-22 Thread Dean & Jo
Title: Message There was research done in SA Adelaide a few years back also into this: Macalister I think his name was? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kylie CarberrySent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 8:04 PMTo: ozm

[ozmidwifery] Delayed posts

2006-02-08 Thread Dean & Jo
Could someone who moderates this list explain why some posts are so delayed in getting released and some never appear? Cheers Jo -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/252 - Release Date: 2/6/2006 -- This mailing li

RE: [ozmidwifery] Post cs support

2006-02-04 Thread Dean & Jo
Title: Message that study was really missing the point> it used a midwife to debrief instead of the people who were involved with the actual event.  It left the chance for further confusion and distress wide open.  I would have been happier if the person who made the decision to perform the

[ozmidwifery] Post cs support

2006-02-04 Thread Dean & Jo
Title: Message Interestingly last year our South Australian Gov held an inquiry into post natal depression and direct links to birth- cs specifically.  I sat there and listened to a private OB who said "none of my patients are unhappy with their cs".   how would he know?  when does he as

RE: [ozmidwifery] nice story....

2006-02-04 Thread Dean & Jo
Title: Message yeah, my first thoughts were the same! -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jesse/jayneSent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 7:56 AMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] nice story H

RE: [ozmidwifery] Post cs support

2006-02-03 Thread Dean & Jo
Title: Message I think it is ESSENTIAL for midwives and consumer groups to be working together on this one.  Amazingly enough, many complaints we hear about are from women who feel their midwife let them down.  Interesting issue (as I am a doula also, perception and expectation of support is

RE: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management"

2006-02-01 Thread Dean & Jo
nowing no one was going to >> hassle me. >> Too many women, ie the majority, really miss out on this. >> We need that ridiculous compulsory induction before 42 weeks to >> just end. >> I'm so tired of giving postdates info to women at 39 weeks who are >> a

RE: [ozmidwifery] Resounding failure of "active labour management"

2006-02-01 Thread Dean & Jo
The issue faced by women when they go post dates has a huge impact on things. I wonder if women were to celebrate and cherish the last few days of being pregnant instead of feeling 'fed up' - if women did not hear from anyone (and usually everyone) the comment of "are you still here love?" or the

RE: [ozmidwifery] co sleeping with a 7 yo

2006-01-29 Thread Dean & Jo
Title: Message Pinky said: Not sure how to interpret this in light of my own kids experience now they are college age and beyond - that would be too much information!  But it seems that they are most likely sleeping with somebody other than me!   Ha Ha Ha! you do make me laugh Pinky!!! :o)

[ozmidwifery] Post cs support

2006-01-25 Thread Dean & Jo
Can I just throw in the question: what strategies do you as a care provider offer those women who birth by cs, especially those who wanted a natural birth or having their first baby, in order to minimize the chances of an adverse emotional outcome? Is there any 'thing' in particular that you have

RE: [ozmidwifery] VBAC afterdehsicence or UR?

2006-01-23 Thread Dean & Jo
I don’t think anyone took anything you said as inflammatory Brenda. What you have stated is true and fair. I think that the issue of suing has more to do with our societies inability to deal with grief productively perhaps? There is always a need to 'blame' and it is far easier to be angry at som

RE: [ozmidwifery] VBAC afterdehsicence or UR?

2006-01-23 Thread Dean & Jo
Yes totally agree with the right of refusal also must encompass the need to take accountability. I think the situation that is currently being discussed would be one of very personal nature. It is hard to advocate the right to choice for some as they may or may not be willing to acknowledge the ne

[ozmidwifery] VBAC afterdehsicence or UR?

2006-01-23 Thread Dean & Jo
Re: [ozmidwifery] VBAC afterdehsicence or UR? You made all my points, Jo. : ) J - Original Message ----- From: Dean & Jo To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 8:46 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] VBAC aft

RE: [ozmidwifery] VBAC after dehsicence or UR?

2006-01-23 Thread Dean & Jo
Title: Message I would have to look for the research (we all know how 'fair' research can be!) but the stated contra-indicators for vbac is previous rupture.  Now it doesn't actually state if the chances of another rupture are higher than a normal scar or whether it is a case of "dam! Not go

RE: [ozmidwifery] birthing in private hosp question

2006-01-19 Thread Dean & Jo
Title: Message You should have said to her that $3,000 would have paid for a gorgeous suite for a few days at a 5 star hotel! I have heard women doing that: hire a midwife and birth in a 5 star hotelwhy not? The meals would be better than any private hospital any day!  And what is with

RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: OP

2006-01-18 Thread Dean & Jo
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean & Jo Sent: Monday, 16 January 2006 3:39 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] References required Could someone point me in the direction on further information about stubborn OP presentations and the links with

RE: [ozmidwifery] adverse effects C/s

2006-01-17 Thread Dean & Jo
Not overtly helpful Maureen, but yes there has been at least one published study linking asthma and elective cs….just cant think of the details…sorry!Jo > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [HYPERLINK > "mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > raphics.com.au]

[ozmidwifery] References required

2006-01-15 Thread Dean & Jo
Could someone point me in the direction on further information about stubborn OP presentations and the links with premature pushing urges? Much appreciated Jo -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/229 - Release Date:

RE: [ozmidwifery] Interesting article about rogue expert witnesses

2006-01-09 Thread Dean & Jo
Title: Message Another prominent obstetrician, David Molloy, said there was "a very difficult group of known rogue expert witnesses" who could not currently be dealt with any other way than to discredit their views in court. "There's a very substantial amount of money being made by a small g

RE: [ozmidwifery] FW: [cbistudents] Fw: [birthisrael] "natural" c/s

2006-01-08 Thread Dean & Jo
Ah Nick Fisk, the man who was quoted that natural birth was like riding a motorcycle without a helmet and saying that all women will birth by cs in the future...at least he is trying to make the actual experience better for those who 'need' cs. I have been to 4 cs out of the last 5 births I have

RE: [ozmidwifery] CARES VBAC Info

2005-12-29 Thread Dean & Jo
Manning www.themidwife.com.au - Original Message - From: "Dean & Jo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 11:13 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] CARES VBAC Info > To those people who sent cheques for the CARES SA Birth After > Caesarean informati

[ozmidwifery] RE:

2005-12-27 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Title: Message When will we learn?    When ONE peice of selective research shows that still birth rates are lower in the 39th week and suddenly all the obs are saying that ALL women should be induced at 39 to save more babies.and no one argues it! Scaremongering and manipulation of fin

RE: [ozmidwifery] RM birth announcement:)

2005-12-05 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Title: Message woo hoo! it is a GREAT day for the women of the Mount Barker area!!!  :o)   -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julie GarrattSent: Monday, December 05, 2005 5:12 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subj

[ozmidwifery] Quick water birth question

2005-12-01 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Where can I access on line a statement about being in water to labour and perhaps birth in the situation where the membranes have already ruptured? I have a doula clients whose OB has said she cant get into water if her waters have broken due to infection risks. I need a mediacl reference that ex

RE: [ozmidwifery] Absolutely horrified!

2005-11-23 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Made YOU cry Brenda! I was her doula who was so rudely interstate at the time !!! Amanda's story made me cry that I wasn’t able to be with her Amanda is right though, she did birth AMAZINGLY! Go Girl! Love Jo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [ozmidwifery] Mother friendly hospitals

2005-11-22 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
g those > services nowadays. Like an extended stay unit where women go post birth > for 1 or 2 weeks & get fed,nurtured, educated, assisted with feeding, > shown postnatal exercises, encouraged to rest, have massages, see > naturopaths re healing remedies if needed etc. > In fact Whol

[ozmidwifery] Mother friendly hospitals

2005-11-22 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Ahhh! mother friendly hospitals...now that would be worth pursuing! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.4/175 - Release Date: 11/18/2005 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit

RE: [ozmidwifery] rooming in

2005-11-21 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
As a mother the child youth health 'experts' always say we need to take tiem for oursleves at soe point...why not at the point of utter exhustion after birth?? I STILL need time out from my kids and have spent many a time hiding in the walk in robe! :o) come to think of it, the 4 year old is sti

RE: [ozmidwifery] question - lodging complaints

2005-11-19 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
This is an interesting thread that I must comment on again: With the consumer support I have been involved with for the many years I have and just in the year I have been a doula, the definition of a negative experience is so varied! What I would deem as a great natural vaginal birth with no tea

RE: [ozmidwifery] PPH risks

2005-11-17 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Title: Message WE had a CARES member once who had PPH with all of her babes and all were actively managed.  She then read in  Effective Guide that active management can in fact cause PPH in some cases.  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

RE: [ozmidwifery] Melb Ob's Supportive of Lotus Birth

2005-11-13 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Title: Message you could contact the college of spiritual midwifery and ask if they can refer someone?   cheers Jo   -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly @ BellyBellySent: Monday, November 14, 2005 2:41 PMTo: ozmidwife

RE: [ozmidwifery] CARES VBAC Info

2005-11-04 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Sorry Barbra, The cost is $15 for the CD including postage. Cheers Jo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barbara Stokes Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 8:58 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] CARES VBAC Info

RE: [ozmidwifery] Abby's Birth Announcement

2005-11-04 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Abby, you know that I know just how wonderful you feel at this moment! I am SO very proud of you and cant wait to hear your birth story! Love Jo CARES -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/161 - Release Date: 11/3/2

[ozmidwifery] CARES VBAC Info

2005-11-04 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
To those people who sent cheques for the CARES SA Birth After Caesarean information booklet; Thanks and the CD's are in the post today so check you post boxes next week! Sorry for the delay. Those who still want a copy of the CD with HEAPS of information on VBAC, please send a cheque to CARES SA

RE: [ozmidwifery] The Advertiser today...

2005-11-02 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
As a doula, I have noticed a huge difference in some hospital based midwives -the emphasis is on the word some in that sentence. I have witnessed women being manipulated by midwives because the midwife was unable to accept the woman did not wish to adhere to the unit policies...especially vbac rel

FW: [ozmidwifery] ANF article

2005-11-01 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Title: Message fyi -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larissa InnsSent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 12:28 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] ANF article Those of you who are ANF members and receive the ANJ there

RE: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth

2005-10-29 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Title: Message The ACMI SA education sessions often address water birth. I know there will be a session on water birth at next April's  Port Pirie information weekend.  Perhaps contact ACMI SA and ask if there is something closer. cheers Jo  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PR

RE: [ozmidwifery] Older Children's Sleep

2005-10-25 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Kate, I am sorry to hear you are dealing with this..on top of study and the such it is so important that you are supported with this. Have you chatted to Pinky? She might be able to give you some suggestions. I hesitate to begin asking questions for fear of asking those stupid questions you ha

[ozmidwifery] CARES CD

2005-10-24 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Thank you to all the orders for the CARES birth after cs CD. The CDs are being finished this week and will be sent out by Monday next week at the latest. Sorry for the delay. All those wanting internet direct banking I still need to find out through the bank. Should have it organised again by th

[ozmidwifery] FW: [accessingartemis] Midwife needs your help

2005-10-24 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Title: Message   I  know this has been discussed previously and I think there was an inquiry as to the up date on this terrible situation.  Here is a web site that is updating the situation about the Washington Midwife being dragged through the courts for facilitating a home breech birth. 

[ozmidwifery] FW: [cbistudents] Fw: France

2005-10-24 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Title: Message any connections? cheers Jo -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer McFarlandSent: Monday, October 24, 2005 11:46 PMTo: aami; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [cbistudents] Fw: FranceI got this in my e-mail

RE: [ozmidwifery] Maternal and Perinatal Outcomes AssociatedWith a Trial of Labor After Prior Cesarean Delivery

2005-10-19 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
I often have this argument Abby, that before we start triAling the safety of vbac we should look at the Vbac outcomes for various settings and modles of care. I argue that even the very low rates of rupture in a hospital setting (the rates that still include induced and augmented labours!) are not

RE: [ozmidwifery] support people in OT

2005-10-18 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Title: Message From a consumers personal experience and perspective it should be imperative that the woman has some say in who she wishes to be there for the birth of her child and who can stay with her during recovery.  There is NO hell like being left alone when dad goes off with baby if s

RE: [ozmidwifery] Scottish dads push wives towardC-sections? I don't think so

2005-10-15 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Title: Message Okay, so now 'they' are blaming the dads for Cs rates...moved on from the women demanding the CS to dads.  I think it is a poor reflection on education of soon to be parents, or the lack of good education.  I am aware that dads can get overwhelmed by birth, as a doula supporti

RE: [ozmidwifery] CARES VBAC booklet

2005-10-10 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dean & Jo Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 5:59 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] CARES VBAC booklet Hi everyone who has expressed interest in the CARES

RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth After CS booklet

2005-10-09 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
ics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth After CS booklet Hi Jo, I would love to get a copy for myself and the Mt Barker Hospital. I will ring you soon. Marijke - Original Message - From: "Dean & Jo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: W

[ozmidwifery] Vbac booklet

2005-10-08 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Oh, And payments can be sent to: CARES SA PO Box 1013 Nairne SA 5252 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.13/123 - Release Date: 10/6/2005 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit

[ozmidwifery] CARES VBAC booklet

2005-10-08 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Hi everyone who has expressed interest in the CARES VBAC booklet. This booklet has information on the vbac management policies; research information about vbac and cs; myth-busting of vbac issues; and common issues that women face when bithing after cs. It is heavy on the medical terminology but

RE: [ozmidwifery] Question....

2005-10-06 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
If she has access to email, there are a few good email lists run by/for VBAC women. She hasn’t given herself much time to address the issues surrounding vbacs though...37 weeks is leaving it a bit late to work through issues. Her best bet is to get a doula or a midwife who will help her get over t

[ozmidwifery] VBAC booklet

2005-10-02 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Hi to everyone who has requested a copy of the booklet. I am waiting on Carolyn to come back from a well deserved holiday so we can confirm the cost for the booklet. Hard copies will be pricey due to the size of the booklet and postage, so I am investigating th option of burning it onto a CD which

RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth After CS booklet

2005-09-28 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
booklet? Sounds like the content is the same!? Denise Hynd "Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in action, for the sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by anyone, our bodies will be handled." — Linda Hes - Original Message - From:

RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth After CS booklet

2005-09-28 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
form is there to downlaod as is the brochures about us. Thanks for your support. This really is a kick a*s booklet! Cheers Jo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean & Jo Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 4:24 PM To: ozmidwi

[ozmidwifery] Birth After CS booklet

2005-09-27 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Just wanting to let people know that CARES SA have just finished a 70+ page document covering all the issues about Birth After CS. It is AMAZINGLY GOOD (if I do say so myself! I am SO proud of Carolyn for putting it together). It covers common myths then follows up with current abstracts; highligh

RE: [ozmidwifery] Indigestion at breakfast....

2005-09-22 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Beautiful JC...you are amazing with words ;o) Jo SA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Justine Caines Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 2:05 PM To: OzMid List Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Indigestion at breakfast Dear All My response to M

RE: [ozmidwifery] "Midwifery led units"

2005-09-19 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Love 'em all Brenda! Jo Bainbridge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of brendamanning Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 2:18 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] "Midwifery led units" What about MMU Units "Mothers &

RE: [ozmidwifery] another fyi...

2005-09-16 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Not surprising who was on the 'for' team...not sure that particular person would even know where the vagina is...! Jo -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 9/10/2005 -- This mailing list is sponsor

RE: [ozmidwifery] Advice on positions for sleeping while pregnant

2005-09-16 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Title: Message check out www.spinningbabies.com   Jo -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ilana SoloSent: Friday, September 16, 2005 2:47 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Advice on positions for s

RE: [ozmidwifery] synthetic oxytocin

2005-09-16 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Title: Message do you really want to knw what the old source was?   What animal has the most compatible organs for humans?   Pigs...yep! that is right, it USED to be pig semen   Nowdays I think synto is purely synthetic...   pick your jaw off the floor dear! ;o)   Jo  -Original

RE: [ozmidwifery] IOL and C/s...

2005-09-12 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Tania, but you did hear BP say that there is no collection of cs rates and failed inductions...remember it is considered the womans fault ie FTP if an induction fails and results ina cs... Perhaps write to the pregnancy outcomes uinti and ask them for the data? -Original Message- From: [E

RE: [ozmidwifery] Men at births

2005-08-31 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Noises during birth ARE similar to sex I think...not that I eaves drop that often! ;o) I think when people think of birthing positions and facial expressions not being 'ladylike' I often want to say "it doesn’t seem to bother people at the other end of the equation! -being conception!" Thanks to

RE: [ozmidwifery] Men at births

2005-08-30 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Personally Andrea, my hubby was far more traumatized by my second birth -my episiotomies vbac- than my horrific cs of my first. It wasn’t until I had my third did he truly understand what I was on about. He was mute with the first. Scared sh*tless with the second. He laughed and cried with our l

[ozmidwifery] National Caesarean Awareness Day

2005-08-30 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Hello, Sorry for cross posting...some of you may get this more than once. This is a reminder to all that the time has come to get your registrations in for the CARES SA National CS Awareness day -VBAC information. September 11th, from 10am until 3.30pm Lunch included. Speaking on the day is

RE: [ozmidwifery] SA members

2005-08-29 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Don’t ya hate that! :o) Jo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 3:26 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] SA members Oops, didn't mean to make that a public announcement

[ozmidwifery] National CS Awareness day 2005

2005-08-28 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Could everyone who is doing something for the 2005 National Caesarean Awareness Day please register you event with CARES SA. We are long term planning for some serious funding in the future and need to keep track of just what is happening and where...what are you doing, who have you organized to s

[ozmidwifery] Interesting VBAC information

2005-08-26 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Check out www.maternitywise.org and read the American Academy of Family Physicians on their vbac stuff...it is really interesting...and not what you would expect! Jo -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.15/80 - Release D

[ozmidwifery] CARES SA + NCAD

2005-08-03 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
The full details and registration forms will be made avaliable in the next few days for the CARES event. Sorry for the late notice. Cheers Jo -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.8/61 - Release Date: 8/1/2005 -- This m

RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: [MCMgtCte] National Caesraean Awareness Day

2005-08-03 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
We asked around the nation after the world trade centre disaster and the unnanomious vote was to keep the NCAD date so we can have something related to birth rather than death. Plus the date was initally decided on in honour of Jackie Mawson from Birthrites to thank her for all that she has done f

RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: [MCMgtCte] National Caesraean Awareness Day

2005-08-02 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
NCAD is always on the 11th of September...have I said August somewhere?? Opps! No I diudnt say what month did I?! Silly me. Jo Bainbridge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jo Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 8:50 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphic

RE: [ozmidwifery] ventouse information

2005-07-30 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Title: Message have you tried maternity wise? jo -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janet FraserSent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 10:16 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] ventouse information Hi all

RE: [ozmidwifery] fetal heart monitoring.

2005-07-26 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Title: Message Is this linked to the lack of midwifery research -due to lack of midwifery research funding? Jo -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sally WestburySent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 9:51 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphic

RE: [ozmidwifery] fetal heart monitoring.

2005-07-26 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Title: Message going by that recomendation, a vbac woman with 1:1 care of a midwife would therefore not be forced to have continuous monitoring and should be allowed in the birth centre. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sally

[ozmidwifery] High babies

2005-07-23 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Just a quick question...a vbac mum with her fifth baby (to be 4th vag birth) is concerned she is 40+3 and babe is still high (according to her OB). Is there anything she can do to bring baby down? As a vbac you start to fret about things like this especially when you have someone sharpening their

[ozmidwifery] Just some interesting articles

2005-07-23 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Just some interesting articles from the RANZCOG site about home birth and the such. The thing that I find amazing is that recently the article promoting induction at 39 weeks as the best thing to do got nationla TV coveragebut these articleswell not even a sniff! http://www.ranzcog.edu.au

RE: [ozmidwifery] List Administration

2005-07-20 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Do you still have both active email addresses Tania cause if you do then you will get two messages instead of one. Jo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tania Smallwood Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 3:19 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: Postnatal Distress Handout

2005-07-18 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
help.  I hope someone remembers them.  It was a great handout and the only copy i had is gone.  Ursula From: Dean & Jo Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:53 AM I will ring Women’s Health Statewide and ask if they have details.  The people listed on the back are no known t

[ozmidwifery] RE:

2005-07-13 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
I will ring Women’s Health Statewide and ask if they have details.  The people listed on the back are no known to me currently but I have only been in Adealide since 1998 so one of the ‘locals’ might know them.  I will hunt around! Cheers Jo Bainbridge CD CARES SA Maternity Coalition B

[ozmidwifery] 39 week inductions

2005-07-13 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
What needs to be asked here is just how many still births are we talking about?  We (mainly the doctors) PRIDE ourselves on having one of the lowest perinatal mortality rates in the world and yet they are happy to suggest inductions at 39 weeks for women to potentially save a few?  What abo

RE: [ozmidwifery] Risk of uterine rupture + CARES

2005-07-13 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
That sort of comment can be taken to politicians and the media if desired: that a professional would use blackmail and/or defamatory comments to sway your choice.  It adds to Jenny Gambles comments about OB’s defaming midwives and midwifery and the shit you would get in if you said it about

RE: [ozmidwifery] Message for Jo Pelvic Floor Research - Archive Question

2005-07-11 Thread Dean &amp; Jo
Here is the abstract for the study but you might have to get further details regarding the things I mentioned. Cheers Jo Caesarean Section Does Not Reduce Risk of Pelvic Floor Dysfunction   ADELAIDE, Australia (Reuters Health) Dec 01 - Caesarean section only marginally reduces the ri

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