I'm up for it Sam, will email you off list.
Lisa Barrett
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 9:19 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Any volunteers for a survey?
Hi Listers,
Are there any midwives on the list who could spare 15
even if they were.
If we all work together we can effectively lobby for systemic change whilst
we support and empower women through individual advocacy.
I agree, all of us doing what we believe to be the right thing.
Lisa Barrett
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From: Justine Caines [EMAIL
coalition did that sort of thing. If they do
I'll start suggesting women get in touch.
Lisa Barrett
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skilled practitioners inside the system here especially if they don't
encourage epidural and sytocinon. That's pretty good going.
Lisa Barrett
is confident in breech birth and physiological labour. In both
the public and private system the care is undertaken by midwives and the breech
extracted by an Ob, this is not something I would recommend.
Lisa Barrett
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From: Kelly Zantey
To: ozmidwifery
moment of her pregnancy
has been fed doubt and despair from ill informed professionals.~
That's interesting, how long have insurance companies been dictating terms of
birth here?
Lisa Barrett
for a
community is it.
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If she is a UK resident there is a reciprical agreement with A
- Original Message -
From: Diane Gardner
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Urgent advice please
Hi Cath
She is visiting in North Sydney
Sorry last post sent in error.
Try again. There is a reciprocal agreement with UK she is entitled maternity
care through that. This would enable her to access public midwifery services.
Alternatively she should get an Independent midwife, most overseas insurance
does allow for this.
Lisa
Do you want midwives Kelly?
I attend them.
Lisa Barrett
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From: Kelly Zantey
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:18 AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal Breech Birth - Names Please...
I am compiling a list of Obs/carers
the baby bonus is for. It has nothing to do with women
employing me for my midwifery skill.I would be doing exactly the same thing
if there were no baby bonus.
Lisa Barrett
http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2393/4/16. Was just reading some stuff and
fell apon this. It's quite interesting
Lisa Barrett
This is taken from the misoprostol website
.
I didn't say it didn't work, just that it was
unlicenced. I still think it's not the sort of drug for a homebirth
midwife to carry.
Lisa Barrett
Misoprostol is
currently only approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA
. There were 2 reported deaths from it in
South Africa last year but they felt that it had been used
incorrectly.
Phillipa I suppose you just need to check it out a
bit more before you decide if it's the right emergency drug for
you.
Lisa Barrett
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From:
Mary
Murphy
not the
sort of drug you should have at a homebirth anyway.
Lisa Barrett
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From: Philippa Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 3:55 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc
I am hoping to get a script
the way to go is a physiological third stage. Half way house between both
is a recipe for disaster .
Physiological first and second stage = physiological third stage.
Managed first and second stage= active third stage.
Lisa Barrett
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From: LJG [EMAIL PROTECTED
that there was information that you weren't aware of :-)
Lisa Barrett
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From: LJG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 4:55 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Delaying synto with active third stage
Well that's what we've always
I was thinking the same thing Mary, it must just be
quiet.
Lisa Barrett
- Original Message -
From:
Mary
Murphy
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 8:59
AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] testing
No mail for days. Is it just
Are there any midwives in Brisbane that attend
breech birth? I've had an enquiry
Lisa Barrett
has to do to have a homebirth is say
she want's one and she must be supported. As long as she is well informed
she can do so regardless to risk.
Lisa Barrett
utmost to get it right.
Will let you all know what they say.
Lisa Barrett
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From:
Rene
and Tiffany
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 7:56
PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] medication
question
Thanks
Shaugn
None of these references are particularly up to
date. How interesting.
Lisa Barrett
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From:
Shaughn
Leach
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 6:22
PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] cord blood
gases
Mary
Has something significant changed in the last 12 years then Mary? The facts
on storage was from a 2001 article.
What is the window of research time that carries sufficient power? I'm sure
there will be something. I'm happy to look if you give me exactly what you
want.
Lisa Barrett
What you could do Mary is ask them what research they are using to back up
the use of cord gases and see how long ago that was produced.
Lisa Barrett
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From: Mary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:23 PM
Has something significant changed in the last 12 years then Mary? The
facts on storage was from a 2001 article.
What is the window of research time that carries sufficient power? I'm
sure there will be something. I'm happy to look if you give me exactly
what you want.
Lisa Barrett
. However it is all very boring to read
through.
It would be very interesting if someone out there at a hospital could
find out how old the references for the protocols are.
Do you mind me asking Mary, do you work in the
government scheme in Perth or are you independent?
Lisa Barrett
more closely.
Thanks Lisa Barrett
/papers/brjog-94.pdf
Lisa Barrett
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think lots of her stuff is written up there. There is
also a link on the UKmid yahoo site.
Lisa Barrett
- Original Message -
From:
Pernille
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:32
PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] introduction and
VBAC question
variables.
Thanks Lisa Barrett
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From: Christine Holliday [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:54 AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] cord blood gases
Lisa, I am hoping you are still reading this list and can send me
No, I don't think there is any up
there.
but Just had an Idea, heard about the Country
dr money thing from Tania Smallwood, Maybe she could help you.
Lisa Barrett
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From:
Janet
Fraser
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Friday, October
- Original Message -
From: Christine Holliday [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 7:23 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] cord blood gases
We do these only if we suspect some fetal compromise during labour or an
unexpected problem at birth,
for continuous monitoring.
It's practice in fear and no good to anybody.
Lisa Barrett
I am not a supporter of doing them at every birth as it is another
distraction from caring for the mother and baby but it is helpful to
support
your care and the results can influence the treatment
within the first hour and the reading is still
accurate at room temperature.
Lisa Barrett
.
is a defensive issue and indeed I have found that the results often
support your actions during labour i.e. in not intervening sooner and I
try
and do them if I think there may be a problem of some
is the right word if you read the research into
the way it's done etcetc. I should have read that before I posted. What I
meant is that the blood doesn't deteriorate over the 1st hour at room temp.
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which
are by the way evidence based well researched and very women centred. If
that offends you I apologise.
What do you do Sadie?
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Hi Wendy,
Nice to see you here.
Love Lisa
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From: Wendy Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ozmid list ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 8:20 AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Introduce myself
Hello to everyone..My name is Wendy Thornton. I am very
Ok No further comments from me in the
future.
I too am sad that there is no room for more than
one opinion on this forum. It's got nothing to do with being less or more
of a midwife it's got to do with sharing opinionin a safe place, obviously
this is not it.
thanks
Lisa Barrett
I would hate this list to stop because you felt I
was too disrespectful. I say once again. I will not post or make
comment. This is an important part of midwifery discussion in Australia
and all should continue to contribute.
Lisa Barrett
When talking about respect does that mean all
around. I agree I was to the point but unreasonable and
undesirable?
Lisa Barrett
- Original Message -
From:
sharon
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 10:28
AM
Subject: RE
t a choice. Just as breech position maybe the baby's
choice.
Lisa Barrett
- Original Message -
From:
Honey
Acharya
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 1:47
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] term breech
trial - ECV option
Here in
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fwd: term breech trial
resending this message as it didn't seem to appear
the last time I posted it
Lisa Barrett
From: Lisa
Barrett
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] term breech trial - ECV
of
all.
Lisa Barrett
- Original Message -
From:
Mary
Murphy
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:09
PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] term breech
trial - ECV option
Lisa, could you
describe this for us? MM
birth like an unnecessary ARM and pushing her body with IV
Syntocinon.
Possibly the best way to handle the situation would
have been to send the woman home after the first examination so she was safely
out of any medical intervention.
Lisa Barrett
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From
but in the birth space with women it isn't an
issue. I chose to work like this because it's less waring than
having to say F**k off to drs all the time.
Lisa Barrett
but was quite low and staying there. She had not much strength left as she had
done much of the work without help of ctx.
She shouldn't have had to push without any
contrations.
Lisa Barrett
've missed something vital.
When asked for opinion in future I will refrain
from giving any unless my language is less confrontational.
Lisa Barrett
- Original Message -
From:
Mary
Murphy
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:17
AM
S
.
I don't need to become professional because I feel I already am and the
story of the Hare and the Tortoise springs to mind.
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are childbearing. If anyone
can be trained to do this in just 8 days why bother with midwifery
training. If we and not judging people on their qualifications some of
the brilliant lay midwives out there wouldn't be persecuted and they are way
more specialised than nurses.
Lisa
Barrett
say it from your midwife
to help you gain the knowledge to start your parenting job, most of the rest is
learning the craft from the bottom up just like any other apprentice to make you
the expert you soon become. Where exactly do you need nursing care in all
that.
Lisa Barrett
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I-
Every contribution counts and
whilst I think I understand the point you're trying to make about reaching the
mainstream, it's dangerous to begin tempering our message to better enable us
to begin "marketing" it to the majority gratuitously - women and babies are
not a
- Original Message -
From:
Tania
Smallwood
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 5:19
PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI news
article
I have worked as a
Registered Nurse, in Psychiatry, and also as a Midwife, and I
Title: FYI news article
I heard ABC radio covering this today. All I
can say is I felt sick.
Lisa
Hi, They could have helped the women much more by
providing midwifery care at home. They do have a one off visit (because
the hospital can access the fund from the insurance for it) but sending a
midwife into the womens home after discharge to check up on them is more
productive and cheaper
and don't forget Tania, you run the meet a midwife
sessions at naturescradle in your own time and at no cost to the consumer. When
it gets established this has a great potential for helping women with birth
choices.
Lisa Barrett
- Original Message -
From:
Tania
Smallwood
Hey Jennifairy I just got this mail
Lisa
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 2:30 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] test - delete from inbox
Just testing, Ive sent 2 posts to the list today neither
has appeared.
Title: FW: Contracting Advantage - Melbourne meeting re PI
Thanks Justine for forwarding the update.
The college cannot look after their members re
professional issues they have no lawyers or advisers. I don't think non
members would expect a service from them. However in the case of
Title: Message
Well Barb thanks for that. I can assure you
that the women I "claim to care for" are very well looked after and I resent the
inference made with that remark. I am in fact a member of my professional
body the RCM and a member of the ANF and a member of the ARM(Association of
and expect
from our insurance? We don't want to shoot ourselves in the foot yet
again in our eagerness to portray ourselves as professionals.
Lisa
Barrett
- Original Message -
From: Andrea
Bilcliff
love to be proved wrong.
Andrea
On 05/09/2006, at 3:47 PM, Lisa Barrett wrote:
Hi Andrea,
I have already emailed Barb
Vernon but have not received a reply at all. I homebirthed in Britain
for 14 years before coming here and I must say that although independent's
I'm certainly not trying to shoot any offer of
insurance down. I wanted discussion and opinion because I feel out of the
loop. I am a member of the SAIMA but we have received nothing not even a
note to say anything is on the table , it's all hear say and 3rd hand. As
I said before I only
.
Andrea Quanchi
On 06/09/2006, at 12:35 PM, Lisa Barrett wrote:
Hang on personalising this
debate is very important to me if I have to sign up. Maybe that's the
problem not personal enough!!
My SAIMA South Australian
Independent Midwives Association. Should surely
on this
anywhere. Has there been a gathering of Independent's that I missed to go
into detail on this offer or even what we want and expect from our
insurance? We don't want to shoot ourselves in the foot yet again in our
eagerness to portray ourselves as professionals.
Lisa Barrett
- Original Message
On 05/09/2006, at 8:24 AM, Lisa Barrett wrote:
Hello Michelle,
Hope you enjoy this list.
Lisa Barrett
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From: michelle gascoigne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal examinations
Introducing myself and replying at the same
Thanks Tania, I looked also and couldn't find
it. Thought it may be my ineptitude.
Lisa
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From:
Tania
Smallwood
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 11:05
AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Insurance for
midwives
Hi Mia,
I'm an independent midwife in South Australia but am from Wales and worked
as a midwife in England for 14 years before coming here. If you like I'd be
happy to email you off list. What part of Australia are you thinking of
coming to?
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Hi Monica,
thanks for the reply. Your right the practitioner is all important and
that's the case for any birth. It is a shame that we are fast running out
of clinicians with the right skill here but it's a vicious circle of if
noone does it no one can get the skills to do it.
Lisa
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!!)
Or what if some babies just move around right up
until the end. Either way there would have been no point scanning her at
36 weeks.
Lisa Barrett,
Midwife
I think you'll find there's only one piece of
research that said this. No others ever backed it up. You should
look into it really carefully before the woman decides for herself what is best
for her and her baby.
Lisa Barrett
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From:
Synnes
but to
me it's not a career choice but a life choice.
A reminder of the viewpoint of the rest of your family is nice though.
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oops. I think this was a private message for me. Sorry it made it to the
list Nikki posted a reply not realising that wasn't directly to me,
obviously. I'm sure any personal stuff won't get forwarded any further.
Thanks Lisa Barrett
Thanks Lisa! I actually stumbled across another report
comments on
them. If you submit them to somewhere like UKmid (forum for the ARM) then
your comments will be taken into consideration.
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Hi Andrea,
Unless the System has changed significantly since I worked in it all women
in Britain get midwifery care in the antenatal period and postnatal period
and every woman is looked after by a midwife during her labour.
I am working as an independent midwife in South Australia where the
Thanks Andrea,
I never send to more than one list at a time. I notice that when I log on
directly to Ozmid to see if my mail is sitting there it always is but I just
have seen mails there that never appear in by email box. Sorry I assumed it
must be moderated. Glad it's not.
Lisa
-
Jennifairy and myself didn't make it
into my email box. I read them on the yahoo site as I was checking to see
if my own mail was there.
This puts me off replying because it just seems that maybe all points of
view are not wanted.
Lisa Barrett
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From:
Lisa Barrett
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] How long
before synto is used?
Oh Jo, I forgot to say that the lovely Ob also
said if you are not going
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From:
Lisa Barrett
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] How long
before synto is used?
Hi Jo,
Policies are apparently to make the midwife feel
better and to get
Hi Sally,
I'm sorry if you feel offended or upset by any discussion on this forum, I'm
sure no-one intentionally does that because part of the joy of it is we are
all able to talk without prejudice.
Thank god there are midwives like you working your butts off to help women
get the best
Dear Kelly,
I think your job here is just to tell her how you
feel about the situation and then let her make her own decision without taking
your feelings into account. This is her journey and you are just a
follower not a leader here. As long as she knows everything that you know
it has
Jennifairy said
I wonder how many of these women had inductions (for eg)?
Ive also seen (during my student experiences, so have other current
students) some midwives doctors apply CCT without giving synt,
describing this as 'physiological' 3rd stage. There are lots of 'mixed
managements' of
previous post said...
Also, I am under the impression that due to the increased risk of these
bubs' sugars dropping further (being LBW and premature) then requiring
IVT, 4/24 BSL etc one or two comp feeds to allow mum to get her head
around breastfeeding two bubs and recovering from the
Previous mail said,
I've caught two babies in the caulthis
year- I thought they looked like little 'aliens' waving and bobbing
around - and the membranes were so tough Admittedly one bub's mum
was HIV +ve, and that was why no ARM was indicated - but we even manage it in
our
Hi, Julie,
I am an independent midwife and I use bi manual
suction. I have a suction tube with a little pot and none returnable
valve, I suck on end and the other goes into the baby's mouth. I'm from
Wales and this was common practice at home in the community and in theatre where
there
Title: Midwifery Strengths
The case load at the women's and children's hosp in
Adelaide may only have one midwife and a backup, however if either or both are a
day off or on holiday you just get the labour ward staff. Also they are
limited to working 12 hours at a time so you could still get
hi Belinda,
I have personal experience with this recently, and I think I'll mail you off
line about it.
I didn't write this just under an impression and maybe it was just something
that went haywire as a one off.
The hours are extremely flexible, the reason mostly for the 12 hour in
Mary if you are still having trouble getting hold
of Caroline Flint. Try on the UK mid site. someone there will
know.
Lisa
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From:
Mary
Murphy
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 5:27 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery]
Hi sue and Sharon, you are right this is
sad.Any woman who has a problem that needs to be monitored shouldn't need
a protocol to tell the midwife theyshould be in the room with their
lady. In fact every midwife should stay with their lady whether they need
monitoring or not. (And the
hi, Any of you lovely midwives do homebirths
in Mt Gambier? Myself and my homebirth colleagues in S.A. Don't know
anyone that far out and I thought that maybe someone from Victoria could be
closer.
thanks
Lisa
complex
choices about medications and there are times when taking drugs that
aren't recommended or approved for pregnancy can be the better choice.
cheers
Jo
At 6:20 PM +1030 20/3/06, Lisa Barrett wrote:
it seems a little unethical to use an unlicensed drug on women unless we
tell them
Hi Andrea,
Was reading your online diary and was very interested to learn
about this new article. As you can see it is in the current issue
of AJOG. Lets hope that all Obs. are taking note.
Lisa
Five years to the term breech trial: The rise and fall of a
Hi,
I think you will find what you are looking for
in the Hinchingbrooke trial. The results make very interesting
reading. If you type it into a goggle search engine you will find lots of
critiques on it.
I attending the initial presentation of this
trial. Although they did find actively
Title: Message
Hi,
This is a great question. There are choices for
you here.
You could ask for a further vaginal swab for GBS to
check your status at the end of your pregnancy. And if you test positive
you could decide whether or not you wanted antibiotics at all. They can
only insert an
:
Lisa Barrett
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 4:58
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery]
Re:cervidil
They use Cervidil at Ashford, It has quite an
aggressive action provided it's inserted correctly. It's not easy
hi Jo,
the reason's that cervidil has been promoted as
better than prostin is as you've said: it releases prostin more slowly and it
can be more easily removed. Reality seems to be, ( and the cervidil
company figures agrees with this) if correctly inserted it can cause
hyperstimulation
They use Cervidil at Ashford, It has quite an
aggressive action provided it's inserted correctly. It's not easy to put
in however being extremely awkward. It's almost impossible to place it in
the posterior fornix.
One Ob described it to a patient as a tampon.
I found this very amusing as
on the birthlove site below. These
figures do show the risk for primip section is doubled with induction but
the over all section rate doesn't seem to be altered. Unless I've
misinterpreted it.
http://www.birthlove.com/free/induction.html#first
Lisa Barrett
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From: Tania
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