Re: ozsilverlight Digest, Vol 15, Issue 18

2010-11-01 Thread Scott Barnes
Yeah Adobe haven't had a clean record on promises. I still think Silverlight is far from dead despite internal rifts but over time i think the market will reject HTML5 given the complexities, lack of consistency and more to the point browser war like forking thats ahead of us still. Plug-ins will c

RE: ozsilverlight Digest, Vol 15, Issue 18

2010-11-01 Thread Jose Fajardo
I understand people's concern with MS's change in messaging BUT to say that Flashes approach to REACH is any better than what SL's is seriously crazy talk. I've had this conversation before with a lot of people, I have no idea how Adobe will deliver on their promise of delivering 3 products acro

RE: Bob Muglias & Steve Balmers statements on committment toSilverlight

2010-11-01 Thread Ross McKinnon
I am still really happy with our decision to go with Silverlight for our https, global, retail, ecommerce site as it fits very well with our business. If this changes over time, we will adapt. Currently it is still the best RIA platform out there, though I am not sure there are many sites out there

Re: Bob Muglias & Steve Balmers statements on committment to Silverlight

2010-11-01 Thread Scott Barnes
As the former Adobe compete lead inside Microsoft, allow me to retort lol :) I dunno, its kinda wishy washy on the whole Adobe compete thing. As yes, MS shifting strategy looks like their a flaky bet, yet Adobe have consistently swapped and changed its strategy over the past few years from everyth

RE: Bob Muglias & Steve Balmers statements on committment to Silverlight

2010-11-01 Thread Paul Du Bois
Disagree. Two reasons for choosing Flash over SL have been heavily buffed by Microsoft’s recent statements. 1. While MS is “shifting strategy”, Adobe remains committed to making Flash cross-platform by pushing it onto more devices and operating systems. So Flash will only become more ubiq

Re: Bob Muglias & Steve Balmers statements on committment to Silverlight

2010-11-01 Thread Jordan Knight
But let's not forget sl+flash are all About tomorrow :) Cheers, Jordan. On 01/11/2010, at 7:17 PM, "Shane Morris (Automatic Studio)" wrote: > To my mind all this noise re Silverlight v HTML5 does not really affect the > Silverlight v Flash argument. The reasons to choose Flash or Silvelrigh

RE: Bob Muglias & Steve Balmers statements on committment to Silverlight

2010-11-01 Thread Shane Morris (Automatic Studio)
To my mind all this noise re Silverlight v HTML5 does not really affect the Silverlight v Flash argument. The reasons to choose Flash or Silvelright are pretty much the same today as they were last week. The only change is a slight dip in confidence in MS's commitment to further innovation going

Re: Bob Muglias & Steve Balmers statements on committment to Silverlight

2010-11-01 Thread Grant Maw
And there'll be a lot more like Barry if this isn't dealt with quickly, and with finality. We have a client who has invested heavily in a SL app at our recommendation. It took us a very long time to convince them that SL was the right tool for the job, and even after all that we are still getting

Re: Bob Muglias & Steve Balmers statements on committment to Silverlight

2010-11-01 Thread Barry Beattie
I think it's at this stage that I will unsubscribe from this list and give up on Silverlight for the moment as "irrelivant", perhaps checking back later. I was hoping SL would be able to produce worthwhile interfaces to the clunky rubbish found in products like Dynamics CRM but I just can't see th

Re: Bob Muglias & Steve Balmers statements on committment to Silverlight

2010-11-01 Thread Scott Barnes
Firstly, People have said i'm just an ex-disgruntled employee of Microsoft the moment i say something critical about the products. Let me clarify, i was ALWAYS a disgruntled employee - ex had nothing to do with it :) hehe.. Secondly, Executives inside Microsoft are mostly annoying but necessary. M

Re: Bob Muglias & Steve Balmers statements on committment to Silverlight

2010-11-01 Thread Chris Anderson
It's amusing to see how many times Steve Balmer name dropped 'Silverlight' in his post :). Backpedalling ahoy! My concern from the beginning has specifically been with the phrase “Our Silverlight strategy and focus going forward has shifted". Bob says that's not a negative statement in his post,

Re: Bob Muglias & Steve Balmers statements on committment to Silverlight

2010-11-01 Thread Winston Pang
Man do you ever sleep? Haha you seem to operate in US time. Bobs post seems to be getting some interesting replies... Sent from my iPad On 02/11/2010, at 5:28 AM, Jose Fajardo wrote: > Here's Microsoft's official statements > > > Bob Muglia has posted extensively on the Silverlight Team Blo

Bob Muglias & Steve Balmers statements on committment to Silverlight

2010-11-01 Thread Jose Fajardo
Here's Microsoft's official statements Bob Muglia has posted extensively on the Silverlight Team Blog: http://team.silverlight.net Steve Ballmer has also commented on his PDC blog: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2010/nov10/11-01Statement.mspx either believe them or not complet

Re: So, is Silverlight dead yet?

2010-11-01 Thread Scott Barnes
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RE: So, is Silverlight dead yet?

2010-11-01 Thread Steven Nagy
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RE: So, is Silverlight dead yet?

2010-11-01 Thread Carl . Scarlett
You mean you used Lightswitch? How did you wash of the smell? *grin* From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stovell Sent: Monday, 1 November 2010 3:57 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: So, is Silverlight dead yet?

Re: So, is Silverlight dead yet?

2010-11-01 Thread Paul Stovell
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