Re: [PAYCO] Re: Festive Message

2017-01-23 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
0749226361 On 20 Jan 2017 07:40, "'tembelani xundu' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress" wrote: > Can I get your number Poqo. You can sms it or whatsupp it to me > 0741531525/0731531525 > > > > On Thursday, January 5, 2017 2:26 PM, sipho mnguni < > sipho.samang...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > people wi

Re: [PAYCO] Re: Festive Message

2017-01-19 Thread 'tembelani xundu' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress
Can I get your number Poqo. You can sms it or whatsupp it to me 0741531525/0731531525 On Thursday, January 5, 2017 2:26 PM, sipho mnguni wrote: people will come and go but the PAC will remain.therefore i urge the members to remain focus to the cause and when the moment arrive we must

Re: [PAYCO] Re: Festive Message

2017-01-05 Thread sipho mnguni
people will come and go but the PAC will remain.therefore i urge the members to remain focus to the cause and when the moment arrive we must be in the perfect balance and correct our mistakes.Our first port of call is to go to the masses and assume responsibilities which are overlooked by those at

Re: [PAYCO] Invitation: MEN ON THE MOUNTAIN (a Pan-Afrikan "initiation" for Brothers)

2016-09-16 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
Izwe lethu! Brother Buntu On 16 Sep 2016 09:13, "BabaBuntu" wrote: > *M'Afrika,* > > eBukhosini Solutions is inviting all Afrikan Brothers to > > *MEN ON THE MOUNTAIN* > > *1st October (all day)* > > *Johannesburg, Gauteng* > > > See FB link here: https://web.facebook.com/events/1154566634600248

Re: [PAYCO] APLA IMBIZO

2016-09-14 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
APLA National Imbizo The APLA National Imbizo will be held on: Date: 01 October 2016 Place: Bloemfontein Venue: is available and will be announced in due course. Those who wish to make accommodation arrangements, please make sure that you make bookings in Bloemfontein Central, not far from Mimos

Re: [PAYCO]

2016-09-14 Thread Chargein Mabaso
Comrade Nkrumah Meeting is where issues are discussed and resolved. The point still stands. There are two PAC NEC structures by default as we speak. we cannot deny that. They are product of PAC "conference" whether the status of those conferences is debatable, or not. That is the reason parliame

Re: [PAYCO]

2016-09-14 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
Cde Chargein A provincial unity meeting is planned for the October 2015, I encourage you attend provincial meetings and also there will be Vaal Regional meeting somewhere in October. Shango lashu Nkrumah On 14 Sep 2016 18:01, "Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi" wrote: > Cde Chargein > > Best we meet and

Re: [PAYCO]

2016-09-14 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
Cde Chargein Best we meet and discuss these approaches, some parts of your arguments hold other have their own defects and self contradictory. And, no court ruled in favour of Mbinda-Moloto as legitimate national leadership of PAC, the same applies to the parallel Letlapa's NEC. The latest judgeme

Re: [PAYCO]

2016-09-14 Thread Chargein Mabaso
The problem is: How do you dissolve the two contested PAC NEC structures not in a conference / congress, the highest decision-making bodies of the Party, as per the PAC Constitution? How do you convene the properly constituted PAC National Conference / Congress in line with the PAC Constitution? Wh

Re: [PAYCO]

2016-09-14 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
Comrade Chargein The two approaches are contradictory both can unfold simultaneously leading to a PAC UNITY National Conference, that is, Bottom-up and Dissolution of parallel NEC's the formation of a Joint Committee then PAC National Unity Conference. Shango lashu Nkrumah On 14 Sep 2016 09:40,

Re: [PAYCO]

2016-09-14 Thread Chargein Mabaso
Comrade Nkrumah Who calls the conference may be a major obstacle to my proposal but it can be overcome through collective effort. The feasible solution is to convene the special conference or congress jointly and the conference / congress to be co-chared by the joint / collective leadership of th

Re: [PAYCO]

2016-09-13 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
Cde Chargein Conference convened by who, when there are parallel NEC's? Which Constitution become applicable to convene such a conference since Mbinda-Moloto leadership faction follows it's own adopted in 2015 while others follow GaMatlala 2000 Constitution? Will PAM accede to follow PAC protoco

Re: [PAYCO]

2016-09-13 Thread Chargein Mabaso
Comrade Nkrumah i made my proposal in the document i drafted. I believe a special unity conference or congress should be convened to do wholistic introspextion and maximum self-criticism and ceiticism as a party, learn lessons from our successes and failures, take drastic resolutions to uproot fac

Re: [PAYCO]

2016-09-13 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
Cde Chargein Point taken, then what's your proposal to defactionalise and forge principled unity? Regards Nkrumah On 13 Sep 2016 13:34, "Chargein Mabaso" wrote: > Comrade Nkrumah > > Sorry, I meant Bottom-up approach. > > The explanation you gave do not assist > > > On 13 September 2016 at 12:

Re: [PAYCO]

2016-09-13 Thread Chargein Mabaso
Comrade Nkrumah Sorry, I meant Bottom-up approach. The explanation you gave do not assist On 13 September 2016 at 12:07, Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi wrote: > Cde Chargin > > I expressed and explained bottom-up approach not a top-up approach, > > Top-up approach is when members converged for the f

Re: [PAYCO]

2016-09-13 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
Cde Chargin I expressed and explained bottom-up approach not a top-up approach, Top-up approach is when members converged for the first time for an unity conference hoping to resolve leadership factions in two days (48 hours) and also generate a PoA. Those who succeeds to attend a conference may

Re: [PAYCO]

2016-09-13 Thread Chargein Mabaso
Comrade Nkrumah Does it mean your Top-up approach cannot address a typical case prevailing in the Vaal which is currently happening in the Party throughout the country. I am still waiting for your response on this issue and the reason for holding two rallies in one province and still claim unity i

RE: [PAYCO]

2016-09-13 Thread Sebenzile Mlaza
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Re: [PAYCO]

2016-09-12 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
Cde Chargein I requested that you define and describe factionalism and factions for us, this will assist to move from the same wavelength. There are members who resolved not to attend any event and meetings which furthers factionalism. These are members keen to forge unity and are working with ot

Re: [PAYCO]

2016-09-12 Thread Chargein Mabaso
Comrade Nkrumah Theory is only good if it can address praxtical problems. You did explain how will your Bottom-up approach can solve current dilema in the Vaal. You did expolain why in Gaung there are two PAC rallIes whenever the Party commemorates important days in its calender if your apporoach

Re: [PAYCO]

2016-09-12 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
Cde Chargein We run the risk to label everything and effort as a faction, please 1. define and describe a faction. Secondly, it's evident we disagree on the approach to forge principled unity. We advocate a Bottom-up approach which has proven itself to be most effective to defactionalise, reconci

Re: [PAYCO]

2016-09-12 Thread Chargein Mabaso
Comrade Nkrumah The Top-up approach sounds good in theory but not in practice. The Marxist philosophy of dialectical materialism *“…emphasizes the dependence of theory on practice, emphasizes that theory is based on practice and in turn serves practice.”* [*Mao Tse Tung on Theory and Practice*].

Re: [PAYCO]

2016-09-09 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
Comrade Charge-in Factionalism within the party which has exhibited itself in many ills such as the parallel National Leadership structures including other party structures, is a manifestation of both the ideo-political and organisation degeneration, primarily degeneration of the branches and me

Re: [PAYCO]

2016-09-09 Thread Chargein Mabaso
Comrade Nkrumah How are you, Son of the soil? I would also appreciate to meet you and other comrade who would like to share ideas on the unity talks in relation to my input. My position is not cast in stone. I have applied my mind to the task at hand. May be I am not informed on the basis of two

Re: [PAYCO]

2016-09-08 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
Cde Charge in Thanks for the document which I perused, your critique of Top Down and Bottom Up strategies fails to recognise the solutions presented or arising from each strategy and also that both strategies are capable to converge as long as there the two strategies are not executed from an anta

Re: [PAYCO] PAC and the Court Ruling

2016-08-18 Thread Chargein Mabaso
MAfrika, Good day. The current political developments in our country at the moment have open a new opportunity for Pan Africanists to go back to the drawing board and do some serious introspection. The current voter apathy, poor PAC/PAM performance and the politics of coalitions after the recent

Re: [PAYCO] PAC and the Court Ruling

2016-08-17 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
Izwe lethu There is no existence of Mpethi's adventure political party in Johannesburg Region, and positive gains is PAC members lost to APC and PAM are now returning back. We speak principled unity to re-build PAC as mas based revolutionary party for the seizure of state political power to establ

Re: [PAYCO] PAC and the Court Ruling

2016-08-17 Thread Mphiri Masoga
Good Morning MoAfrika Mashilo PASMA I am referring to Newly formed organisation by those who wanted UNITY with the intention to deceive PAC and its Loyal Members Please ensure that you engage with people who have Integrity and can be trusted when you continue with your programme as "Johannesburg

Re: [PAYCO] PAC and the Court Ruling

2016-08-16 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
PASMA as a PAC Component structure continues to lead students mass agitation in regard to fees must fall. Nkrumah On 15 August 2016 at 12:55, Mphiri Masoga wrote: > Good Morning MaAfrika > > What happened to PASMA AND ARM? > > Regards, > > *electronically send no signed - authentic * > > Mphiri

Re: [PAYCO] PAC and the Court Ruling

2016-08-15 Thread Mphiri Masoga
Good Morning MaAfrika What happened to PASMA AND ARM? Regards, *electronically send no signed - authentic * Mphiri Masoga SACWU T (012) 320 6472 - 5 F (012) 320 2179 F2email: 086 225 4254 Email: mphi...@gmail.com C 073 182 2656 On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 12:19 PM, Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi < nr

Re: [PAYCO] PAC and the Court Ruling

2016-08-15 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
On 10 February 2012 at 11:26, Chargein Mabaso wrote: > Comrades > > Letlapa lost the court appeal. We have been proved right on the > violation of the PAC. But, who will bell the cat within the PAC, and > how? Let's wait and see. Power struggles and smear campaigns that > always divide the Pan Af

Re: [PAYCO] Re: Notice of Extended NEC Meeting and Agenda

2016-05-27 Thread Chargein Mabaso
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Re: [PAYCO] Re: Notice of Extended NEC Meeting and Agenda

2016-05-26 Thread Chargein Mabaso
Comrade Eddie. Please nind your language when you talk to another comrades-in-arms. There is neither absolute honest and absolute truth in what is happening in the Pan Africanist fold. Your deeds do not serve PAC interest but those of your faction and enenies, consciously or uncomsciously. We are

Re: [PAYCO] Re: Zephania Lekoame Mothopeng (1913 – 1990) entire adult life dedicated to Political, Economic and Social Emancipation of Indigenous Africans in Azania (South Africa)

2016-04-01 Thread Mphiri Masoga
Good Afternoon Prof Thank you Prof Much appreciated. Regards, *electronically send no signed - authentic * Mphiri Masoga SACWU T (012) 320 6472 - 5 F (012) 320 2179 F2email: 086 225 4254 Email: mphi...@gmail.com C 073 182 2656 On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 12:09 AM, vu...@telkomsa.net wrote:

Re: [PAYCO]

2015-11-13 Thread mmbarahk
Izwelethu Son of Afrika Sent from Samsung tabletMduduzi Sibeko wrote: [Description: Description: Facebook] [Description: Description: Twitter] [Description: Description: LinkedIn] [Description: Descri

Re: [PAYCO] Honouring the life and legacy of the late comrade Bennie Bunsee

2015-10-29 Thread Pule Maqekoane
Dear comrade Hulisani, Thanks for making me aware that comrade Jaki Seroke is currently penning the tribute on the late comrade Bennie Bunsee. I was not aware! Please be informed that the first person I contacted in regard to the honouring of the life and legacy of the late comrade Bennie Bunsee

RE: [PAYCO] Honouring the life and legacy of the late comrade Bennie Bunsee

2015-10-29 Thread Hulisani
Cde. Pule Please note that Mayihlome news www.mayihlomenews.co.za will be publishing a tribute to Cde. Bennie Bunsee penned by Cde. Jaki Seroke. Izwelethu! I Afurika! Hulisani Mmbara Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 17:12:05 +0200 Subject: [PAYCO] Honouring the life and legacy of the late com

Re: [PAYCO] Time to call it quits for my Pres.

2015-09-21 Thread Chargein Mabaso
take advantage of because of their illegal status. > > It's time president Mugabe handed the baton to a trusted comrade who would > run the mile not because of him having read a previously delivered speech > but of his dotage seen by us ‘his admirers’ and I repeat ‘HIS ADMIRERS.’ &g

RE: [PAYCO] Time to call it quits for my Pres.

2015-09-21 Thread Sebenzile Mlaza
IS ADMIRERS.’ From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] Sent: 21 September 2015 08:14 AM To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Time to call it quits for my Pres. Dear Comrades There are two ways to look at this. Oratory goes a long way in drawing mass appeal.

Re: [PAYCO] Time to call it quits for my Pres.

2015-09-21 Thread Linda Ndebele
t; Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 06:14:21 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Time to call it quits for my Pres. Dear Comrades There are two ways to look at this. Oratory goes a long way in drawing mass appeal. All organizati

Re: [PAYCO] Time to call it quits for my Pres.

2015-09-20 Thread 'Mawethu Sidzamba' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress
er: payco@googlegroups.comDate: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 20:08:07 +0200To: PAYCO GOOGLE GROUP PAYCO GOOGLE GROUPReplyTo: payco@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: [PAYCO] Time to call it quits for my Pres. Comrade Linda, any ideas on who should succeed Oldman RG Mugabe and his peers in ZANU- PF leadership? I think though

Re: [PAYCO] Time to call it quits for my Pres.

2015-09-20 Thread Linda Ndebele
groups.com Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 20:08:07 To: PAYCO GOOGLE GROUP PAYCO GOOGLE GROUP Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [PAYCO] Time to call it quits for my Pres. Comrade Linda, any ideas on who should succeed Oldman RG Mugabe and his peers in ZANU- PF leadership? I think though

RE: [PAYCO] Time to call it quits for my Pres.

2015-09-20 Thread Hulisani
Comrade Linda, any ideas on who should succeed Oldman RG Mugabe and his peers in ZANU- PF leadership? I think though ZANU-PF is keenly aware of the succession matter and is probably fairly prepared for the inevitable departure of Mugabe and his peers. > Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Time to call

Re: [PAYCO] Time to call it quits for my Pres.

2015-09-20 Thread Linda Ndebele
ry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Chargein Mabaso Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 18:55:46 To: Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Time to call it quits for my Pres. Comrades, Let's be serious. This is a seri

Re: [PAYCO] Time to call it quits for my Pres.

2015-09-20 Thread Chargein Mabaso
ew is that the media has made sure to sensationalize > this issue as they always do. > > >> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 11:13:28 +0200 >> Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Time to call it quits for my Pres. >> From: chargein...@gmail.com >> To: payco@googlegroups.com >> >>

RE: [PAYCO] Time to call it quits for my Pres.

2015-09-19 Thread Hulisani
retaining the leader? I think not, instead my view is that the media has made sure to sensationalize this issue as they always do. > Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 11:13:28 +0200 > Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Time to call it quits for my Pres. > From: chargein...@gmail.com > To: payco@googlegroups

Re: [PAYCO] Time to call it quits for my Pres.

2015-09-18 Thread Chargein Mabaso
It is not as easy as like that for him, comrade. If Mugabe goes, there will be political upheaval in Zimbabwe. It will mean regime change. His Inner Circle will have to go too. That will be costly. It is the one forcing him to remain in power. It's a political marriage unti death. .even if he wants

Re: [PAYCO] Time to call it quits for my Pres.

2015-09-18 Thread Linda Ndebele
It was indeed the most embarrassing moment. Succession has never been this urgent. The Old Man has played his part, let him hand over the baton. Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Sebenzile Mlaza Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Fr

Re: [PAYCO] Sarcastic Anthropology.

2015-09-14 Thread 'Sebenzile Mlaza' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress
Evening Cde Mawethu, Judging by the brain size of so-called Homo Naledi (this newly discovered allege distant relative of ours), it is quite obvious that Homo sapiens (us) are not directly descended from that species. Read this cognitively, some racist academics simply want to infer one conclus

Re: [PAYCO] Sarcastic Anthropology.

2015-09-14 Thread 'Mawethu Sidzamba' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress
Dear Cde Sebenzile I pretty much comprehend the valor contained in your argument. However for me whether this discovery be valid or not it does perhaps bring us closer to the realization of two things, firstly that Africans are the longest/oldest-surviving human species in the world. Secondly it

RE: [PAYCO] Fwd: PAC MARCHES COUNTRYWIDE FOR RELEASE OF ITS APLA COMRADES

2015-04-21 Thread July
Noted -Original Message- From: "Mphiri Masoga" Sent: ‎2015-‎04-‎20 04:01 PM To: "payco@googlegroups.com" Subject: [PAYCO] Fwd: PAC MARCHES COUNTRYWIDE FOR RELEASE OF ITS APLA COMRADES Regards, electronically signed Mphiri Masoga SACWU T (012) 320 6472 - 5 F (012) 320 2179 F2e

Re: [PAYCO] WHAT WENT WRONG WITH AZANIA (SA) BURNING by Bulayo News on-line

2015-04-21 Thread Tom Oreje
Masoga, Brother, the rest of africa is reacting!   Will south Africa be comfortable again in isolation? Right now, none of South African citizens can dare say, in a foreign country, that they are south African, the pride is gone and violence is knocking at your door.  And all these because of

RE: [PAYCO] Fwd: FUNERAL DETAILS OF SAKI SELL MAFATSHE

2015-03-04 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
Hawu, M’afrika Saki is no more, this is shocking! Indeed it is the darkest before dawn! Thanks for the information Shango lashu Nkrumah From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sbusiso Xaba Sent: 04 March 2015 02:52 PM To: payco@googlegroups.com Subj

Re: [PAYCO] Sobukwe Memorial Lecture at UNISA

2015-02-17 Thread Mphiri Masoga
Good Day Thank you for the invitation will circulate. kind Regards, Mphiri Masoga SACWU PTA Tel : 012 320 6472 Fax : 012 320 2179 Fax2Email: 0862254254 Cell : 0731822656 -Original Message- From: Vusi Mahlangu Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 14:41:27 To: payco

Re: [PAYCO] Quo Vadis PAC

2015-02-02 Thread Linda Ndebele
ssage- From: "Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi" Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 16:51:25 To: Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [PAYCO] Quo Vadis PAC Greeting friends and comrades! “Never in history has any class achieved power without having politica

RE: [PAYCO] Quo Vadis PAC

2015-02-02 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of matome Sent: 01 February 2015 10:45 AM To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Quo Vadis PAC Comrade Sebenzile, I hope you are well my dearest Friend and Comrade. Would you allow me to take off by 'attacking

RE: [PAYCO] Quo Vadis PAC

2015-02-01 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
d in the life-giving spring of popular creativity” Lenin Shango lashu Nkrumah From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of matome Sent: 01 February 2015 10:45 AM To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Quo Vadis PAC Comrade Sebenzile, I hope you

RE: [PAYCO] Quo Vadis PAC

2015-02-01 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of matome Sent: 01 February 2015 10:45 AM To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Quo Vadis PAC Comrade Sebenzile, I hope you are well my dearest Friend and Comrade. Would you allow me to take off by 'attacking' you and t

Re: [PAYCO] Quo Vadis PAC

2015-02-01 Thread matome
kBerry® -Original Message- From: Pule Maqekoane Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2015 09:55:33 To: Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Quo Vadis PAC We are proud of you Mlaza! Wow, what a masterpiece! At the time some of us joined the PAC, the general

Re: [PAYCO] Quo Vadis PAC

2015-01-30 Thread Pule Maqekoane
We are proud of you Mlaza! Wow, what a masterpiece! At the time some of us joined the PAC, the general membership was of the level of M'Afrika Sebenzile Mlaza. How many Sebenziles and how many Mlazas are still associating themselves with the PAC today? This is the wonderful piece. . Will the d

Re: [PAYCO] Quo Vadis PAC

2015-01-30 Thread Bongani Keith
Revolutionary greetings "cry Izwe Lethu" This is there most progressive important statement from comrade Sebenzile you have cross the breach before many of us to see what will the future hold when comrades think of the 20 years in vain of sacrifice building an organisation without making any signi

Re: [PAYCO] Quo Vadis PAC

2015-01-30 Thread Bongani Keith
Revolutionary greetings "cry Izwe Lethu" This is there most progressive important statement from comrade Sebenzile you have cross the breach before many of us to see what will the future hold when comrades think of the 20 years in vain of sacrifice building an organisation without making any signi

RE: [PAYCO]

2015-01-29 Thread 'Mawethu Sidzamba' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress
the disagreements we witness today have the same ideological depth unless I am in denial. On Thu, 1/29/15, Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi wrote: Subject: RE: [PAYCO] To: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, January 29, 2015, 9:26 AM #yiv959073

RE: [PAYCO]

2015-01-28 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
Izwe lethu M’Afrika Mdu The question is what has been achieved thus far in the PAC, noting that every little work undertaken on ground to revive, re-organise and attempt to build a mass based political character for and in the PAC, such efforts are nullified by persisting internal feuding wh

Re: [PAYCO] FW: [New post] MAYIHLOME NEWS 2014 ANNUAL REPORT

2015-01-09 Thread 'Mawethu Sidzamba' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress
Job well done thanks editor. We also need the voice from the youth especially the editor's and many others on this platform.I wish the tutelege of the old guard can be supplemented by the disquet of many potential young writers in this forum. Bring on those articles and comments on Mayihlome cad

Re: [PAYCO] Please VOTE for this Zimbabwe project NOW

2014-11-21 Thread mafam
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Re: [PAYCO] Digest for payco@googlegroups.com - 2 updates in 2 topics

2014-11-18 Thread 'Abdurrahman Nelson' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress
- Sent from my Nokia phone   --Original message-- From: To: ,, Date: Friday, October 31, 2014 4:14:36 AM GMT+ Subject: Re: [PAYCO] The 27th--28th September Conference Report   Comrades,   There are some PAC members who are going around busy holding secret meeting

Re: [PAYCO] SAd news

2014-11-14 Thread Fikiswa Ntshwanti
shwanti > To: "payco" > Date: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:45:57 AM GMT+0200 > Subject: Re: [PAYCO] SAd news > > Izwe lethu MaÁfrika amahle. Ndicela ilift kwabayayo from Gauteng. > > On 12 November 2014 11:26, wrote: >> Comrades, >> >> The funeral of c

Re: [PAYCO] SAd news

2014-11-14 Thread chargein461
Comrade Fikiswa Pls contact cde Sebenzile for lift at 0713501073 or sms your contacts to me (0710203554). -- Sent from my Nokia phone --Original message-- From: Fikiswa Ntshwanti To: "payco" Date: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:45:57 AM GMT+0200 Subject: Re: [PAYCO

Re: [PAYCO] Please VOTE for this Zimbabwe project NOW

2014-11-14 Thread mafam
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Re: [PAYCO] SAd news

2014-11-12 Thread Fikiswa Ntshwanti
Izwe lethu MaÁfrika amahle. Ndicela ilift kwabayayo from Gauteng. On 12 November 2014 11:26, wrote: > Comrades, > > The funeral of comrade Clarence Mayekiso (Hadebe) will be held at the Roman > Catholic Church in town, Port Shepstone in KZN on Saturday, 15 November 2014: > > Hamba kakuhle, son

Re: [PAYCO] The 27th--28th September Conference Report

2014-10-30 Thread chargein461
Comrades, There are some PAC members who are going around busy holding secret meetings with PAM members desguised as unity talks in line with cde Fihla's advice in one of his emails. In those meetings, instead of talking about unity, they beg PAM members to join PAC branches as individuals. The

Re: [PAYCO] Revolutionary Pan Africanist Programme

2014-10-27 Thread Mphiri Masoga
asoga SACWU PTA Tel : 012 320 6472 Fax : 012 320 2179 Fax2Email: 0862254254 Cell : 0731822656 -Original Message- From: "Linda Ndebele" Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:55:25 To: Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Revolutionary

Re: [PAYCO] Revolutionary Pan Africanist Programme

2014-10-27 Thread Mphiri Masoga
asoga SACWU PTA Tel : 012 320 6472 Fax : 012 320 2179 Fax2Email: 0862254254 Cell : 0731822656 -Original Message- From: "Linda Ndebele" Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:55:25 To: Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Revolutionary

Re: [PAYCO] Revolutionary Pan Africanist Programme

2014-10-27 Thread Linda Ndebele
t; Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 19:06:16 To: Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Revolutionary Pan Africanist Programme Comrade Lion, I agree entirely with the essence of your email. You are right to implore us away from trifles; to focus us on the ch

Re: [PAYCO] Revolutionary Pan Africanist Programme

2014-10-27 Thread matome
ours' are not ready and prefer a gentleman 's talk. Not in our name !!! Izwe Lethu Matome Mashao Sent from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: "AUBREY NGWATLE" Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 19:49:06 To: Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.co

Re: [PAYCO] Revolutionary Pan Africanist Programme

2014-10-27 Thread AUBREY NGWATLE
> percy motswaledi Sent: 27 October 2014 03:09 PM > To: payco@googlegroups.com; Mphiri Masoga > Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Revolutionary Pan Africanist Programme > > Good Day MoAfrika Linda > > its Lion of Azania Here > Mr Mphiri Masoga is attacking you in public Platform and wi

Re: [PAYCO] Revolutionary Pan Africanist Programme

2014-10-27 Thread Linda Ndebele
Linda Ndebele Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: "Mphiri Masoga" Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:59:02 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Revolution

RE: [PAYCO] Revolutionary Pan Africanist Programme

2014-10-27 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
rumah Raymond Kgaudi -Original Message- From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of percy motswaledi Sent: 27 October 2014 03:09 PM To: payco@googlegroups.com; Mphiri Masoga Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Revolutionary Pan Africanist Programme Good Day MoAfrika Linda

Re: [PAYCO] Revolutionary Pan Africanist Programme

2014-10-27 Thread percy motswaledi
Good Day MoAfrika Linda its Lion of Azania Here Mr Mphiri Masoga is attacking you in public Platform and with Emmotions i want us to enterogate his Emotions because they may have different meaning and this time i am sure one covers his failures and its a petty that people look at their stomach and

RE: [PAYCO] Revolutionary Pan Africanist Programme

2014-10-27 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mphiri Masoga Sent: 27 October 2014 11:59 AM To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Revolutionary Pan Africanist Programme Good Morning Linda Who are the former Presidents who attended the meeting & where were the current Presidents and what is the St

Re: [PAYCO] Revolutionary Pan Africanist Programme

2014-10-27 Thread matome
at confronting and millitarisation. Izwe Lethu Matome Mashao Sent from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: "Mphiri Masoga" Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:59:02 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Revoluti

Re: [PAYCO] Revolutionary Pan Africanist Programme

2014-10-27 Thread Mphiri Masoga
Good Morning Linda Who are the former Presidents who attended the meeting & where were the current Presidents and what is the Status of the so called former Presidents of that meeting? As far as I can recall most or many of the so called Former Presidents left the organisation and or are ope

Re: [PAYCO] Determing A Good Standing Branch

2014-10-13 Thread 'Mbuyiselo Kantso' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress
Comrades Comrade Ray what Apa communicated it is a true reflection of the discussions held. That is why already there is a fabrication about the meeting outcome because the effect of that unity and its expansion thereof as you put it will go a long way in assisting stabilising the party. I also

RE: [PAYCO] PAC National Conference, Bloemfontein

2014-09-29 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
; Wandisile Gajana; Mapula Nkoana; Albert Mokoena; L.R. Mbinda; Mohlomphegi Mphahlele; Apa Pooe Subject: Re: [PAYCO] PAC National Conference, Bloemfontein Moaforika Vusie You are correct on one issue, as PAC members we need a unifying inclusive conference, not this political gimmicks. In less than

Re: [PAYCO] PAC National Conference, Bloemfontein

2014-09-28 Thread Tongogara Ndima
Moaforika Vusie You are correct on one issue, as PAC members we need a unifying inclusive conference, not this political gimmicks. In less than three years PAC had three Presidents and three Deputy Presidents as follows: 2012 July Butterworth Congress: Cde Letlapa Mphahlele elected as President w

Re: [PAYCO] PAC National Conference, Bloemfontein

2014-09-28 Thread 'Mbuyiselo Kantso' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress
MoAfrika Vusie You are simply playfull and enjoy this party going up and down with no programme. There is nothing genuine and noble to what you are saying. You are behaving like someone who is idling in politics so anyone can make you say and do what he wishes. On Sunday, September 28, 20

Re: [PAYCO] Statement of Position - Program of Action

2014-09-21 Thread mmbarahk
Revolutionary Greetings, The document eloquently articulates the historic tasks which must embody the revolutionary programme of our times. Executed to the letter and spirit embodied therein, the struggle for the liberation of the African working class in particular and humanity in general wil

Re: [PAYCO] Statement of Position - Program of Action

2014-09-21 Thread matome
lackBerry® -Original Message- From: "Linda Ndebele" Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 17:06:28 To: ; 'Michael Muendane'; 'Mbulelo Raymond' Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Cc: ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ;

Re: [PAYCO] Statement of Position - Program of Action

2014-09-20 Thread Linda Ndebele
Cde Matome, I wish to express my gratitude to the continous rationale manner you approach challenges facing our party and our revolutionary task. Indeed I agree with you that we have to make a choice between Revolting or conforming to the system. Making such a choice is critical to know who are

Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference

2014-09-20 Thread matome
; ; ; ; ; ; ; <0825164...@vodamail.co.za>; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; Subject: RE: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference Izwe lethu Thanks Bra Mike, “Anyone can change. Love yourself, love one another, unite and you shall be a strong Party” Izwe lethu

Re: [PAYCO] coup is the only solution for PAC

2014-09-20 Thread matome
ssage- From: Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 14:28:31 To: Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] coup is the only solution for PAC Comrade Gift My first input on this discussion was that to rescue PAC from current maximum infiltration is to take extrao

Re: [PAYCO] coup is the only solution for PAC

2014-09-16 Thread chargein461
Comrades, Former US President, John F Kennedy rightly said, "Those who make nonviolent revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable" . His powerful advice was not taken serious by his successors up to Obama. In effect, they defied him. When Gaddafi and Assad in Libya and Syria,

RE: [PAYCO] Our generation failed by a generation that has made its mark!

2014-09-15 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; <0825164...@vodamail.co.za>; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; Subject: RE: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference Izwe lethu Thanks Bra Mike, “Anyone can change. Love yourself, love one another, unite and you shall be a strong Party” Izwe lethu Nkrumah Raym

Re: [PAYCO] coup is the only solution for PAC

2014-09-14 Thread chargein461
The enemy is prepared even to bomb genuine PAC members who will win the fight at the end group with Hamas, Zanu-PF, ISIS, etc. Nato may here already to deal with genuine PAC members. But, the kind of action -- Sent from my Nokia phone --Original message-- From: 'gift fuzane' v

Re: [PAYCO] coup is the only solution for PAC

2014-09-14 Thread chargein461
Comrade Gift My first input on this discussion was that to rescue PAC from current maximum infiltration is to take extraordinary actions unfortunately at a human cost. I agree with you totally in your sentiments. PAC has been hijacked from us at gun point. We cannot get it back to us without a

RE: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference

2014-09-11 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
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RE: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference

2014-09-11 Thread Nkrumah Raymond KGAGUDI
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Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference

2014-09-11 Thread Tongogara Ndima
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Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference

2014-09-11 Thread Tongogara Ndima
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