Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-08 Thread Richard Claypool
:17 PM Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple OK. Good. That's great news in that case. Looking forward to some actual results then. It has only been a few years and 7 major versions of iTunes... - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list

Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Dane Trethowan
wrote: Why doesn't that surprise me??? - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:14 PM Subject: RE: Hats Off to Apple : Yes, I have tried iTunes 7.1 under windows, I wanted to try

Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Dane Trethowan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:47 PM Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple : Ok, well I wouldn't call it inaccessible, see my previous message but : I would say that you can use different ways to access it and screen : readers

RE: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Stephen Guerra
: ILASteve Web Site: http://www.independentliving.com http://www.soundbytes.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Tanner Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 1:15 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple Why doesn't

RE: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread VaShaun Jones
. Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple Ok first question, why are you surprised? Has anyone written to Apple about accessability issues regarding Itunes on this list? Well I cannot answer that question but I know I certainly have and I know that it is being worked on, the only reason why Itunes

Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Dane Trethowan
Off to Apple Why doesn't that surprise me??? - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:14 PM Subject: RE: Hats Off to Apple : Yes, I have tried iTunes 7.1 under windows, I wanted

RE: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Jack Conti
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Tanner Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 1:15 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple Why doesn't that surprise me??? - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC

RE: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Jeff Bishop
Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 7:55 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple Better accessability for Itunes is being worked on. I'm not making excuses for Apple but everything takes time and I'm sure that Windows users will end up with a totally

RE: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Chris Skarstad
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 7:55 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple Better accessability for Itunes is being worked on. I'm not making excuses for Apple but everything takes time and I'm sure that Windows

Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Dane Trethowan
AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple Why doesn't that surprise me??? - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:14 PM Subject: RE: Hats Off to Apple

Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Chris Skarstad
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 7:55 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple Better accessability for Itunes is being worked on. I'm not making excuses for Apple but everything takes time and I'm sure that Windows users will end up with a totally accessible

Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Dane Trethowan
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 7:55 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple Better accessability for Itunes is being worked on. I'm not making excuses for Apple but everything takes time and I'm sure that Windows users will end up with a totally accessible version

Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Darrell Shandrow
or any similar such awards or praise. - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:49 AM Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple But see, that's the point, I have written to Apple several times

Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Darrell Shandrow
are just hoping and praying it'll eventually be done? Just want to be clear. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple Ok, well I take my

Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Darrell Shandrow
can't attend this time around. - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 8:55 AM Subject: RE: Hats Off to Apple Here here Jeff, couldn't agree with you more man. I think Apple put out

Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Dane Trethowan
PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:49 AM Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple But see, that's the point, I have written to Apple several times requesting that they atempt to make their Windows version of iTunes more friendly to screenreader

Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Dane Trethowan
. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple Ok, well I take my hat off to you for writing as allot of people just sit back and let others do the hard work but I can assure you from people I've spoken to that Itunes for Windows and accessability

Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Dane Trethowan
, March 07, 2007 8:55 AM Subject: RE: Hats Off to Apple Here here Jeff, couldn't agree with you more man. I think Apple put out their Windows version of iTunes mainly so that they could say they have a Windows version out, and they could give a crap less about accessibility. Yell and scream

RE: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Stephen Guerra
: Re: Hats Off to Apple Hi Chris, I think Apple is going to be in attendance at CSUN again this year. I think someone should finally really confront them hard about this as publicly as possible. Of course, they tend to send people who really don't know much of anything, but, well, they should take

Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Darrell Shandrow
-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 12:05 PM Subject: RE: Hats Off to Apple Hi to all, the vendor list for Csun is up and available, but Apple is not part of it Stephen A. Guerra Assistive Technology Specialist Independent Living Aids Products for Your Active Independent

Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Darrell Shandrow
, March 07, 2007 11:41 AM Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple I'm talking to people who are working with Apple on Itunes yes. On 08/03/2007, at 4:32 AM, Darrell Shandrow wrote: Hi Dane, Many us have written to many different people and general e-mail addresses at Apple Computer over the years

Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Darrell Shandrow
: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 11:40 AM Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple I can tell you that in the case of Itunes this is not true as I know someone who has confirmed that he is working with Apple to improve access to the windows version, just because you personally don't get an acknowledgement from

Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Dane Trethowan
PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:49 AM Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple But see, that's the point, I have written to Apple several times requesting that they atempt to make their Windows version of iTunes more friendly

Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Dane Trethowan
actual results then. It has only been a few years and 7 major versions of iTunes... - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 11:41 AM Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple I'm talking to people

RE: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-06 Thread Stephen Guerra
Has anyone tried it with windows Stephen A. Guerra Assistive Technology Specialist Independent Living Aids Products for Your Active Independent Life! 200 Robbins Lane Jericho, NY 11753 Phone: (516) 937-1848-x313 Fax: (516) 937-3906 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: ILASteve Web Site:

RE: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-06 Thread Chris Skarstad
Yes, I have tried iTunes 7.1 under windows, I wanted to try to have an open mind and try it, and guess what? It is still just as inaccessible as it was previously. So apple is still the lose, at least under the windows platform. and because Apple has made *absolutely* no efforts whatsoever in

Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-06 Thread Dane Trethowan
Yeah just tried it , no different in that you need to use the mouse cursor to access the thing but if you're prepared to do that then not a problem in the world, don't know how JFW users would get on, I guess the way around this would be to select unrestricted with the JAWS cursor and do

Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-06 Thread Dane Trethowan
Ok, well I wouldn't call it inaccessible, see my previous message but I would say that you can use different ways to access it and screen readers provide the tools for the job , an inaccessible programme to me is one which you cannot navigate, cannot use, a screen reader won't work with

Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-06 Thread David Tanner
Why doesn't that surprise me??? - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:14 PM Subject: RE: Hats Off to Apple : Yes, I have tried iTunes 7.1 under windows, I wanted to try to have

Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-06 Thread David Tanner
. And, I don't call their attempt at access on the Mac access as anything to brag about either. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:47 PM Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple : Ok