Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Dane Trethowan]

We'll agree to disagree then.

Humanware only wants to support a part of the market they know they can 
extract money from, those Humanware can preach to and easily convince 
that Humanware are the only solution on Planet Earth, a bit like the 
Church of Scientology.




On 11/10/2017 7:57 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

More to go wrong or more to enable more people to use the device.  I
don't own one, but I still know plenty of blind folks who do much
better with buttons than with touch; were that not true, HumanWare
wouldn't make this stuff.

Mary




--

**
"Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life"
**

Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Dane Trethowan]

Apologies as I didn’t know you had an Amazon Echo but that’s as far as 
the apology goes.
Remembering skills? I have skills on my Amazon Echo and yes, its 
probably not used as much as yours would be given the Amazon echo is not 
fully supported in Australia but I do indeed know what skills I have on 
my system and - if I’m in any doubt - then I can look up and manage what 
I have installed on the Amazon Echo web page.
I don’t buy the argument about small company’s and lack of resources 
these days, I’ve been using hearing instruments for over 30 years and - 
over that time - the price has changed radically along with the 
technology which suggests to me that - unlike Humanware - small 
company’s in the hearing instruments market - once again a very small 
and specialist market - want to put their clients - those who have 
hearing difficulty’s and need to use their products - first.
In recent years of course we’ve seen a huge shift in the hearing 
instruments market to using the instrument as such as a secondary device 
and something more substantial - Mobile phone - as the primary 
processing device which in tern has both brought more power to the 
instrument and brought the price down.
I’m not suggesting for one moment that the latter point of using two 
devices be used in the case of Humanware as one “Stand-Alone” device is 
what’s required here however Humanware are not acknowleding changing 
technology, not keeping up with the mainstream.

Accessibility should be all and not just for a few.


On 10 Nov 2017, at 8:48 am, Mary Otten > wrote:


Yes, I have an Amazon echo. It’s of limited utility in my opinion, 
partly because although there are so many skills, finding them and 
then remembering what you have is well, not easy. But I do have one. 
Now why would I want to repeat that whole thing with a device from 
humanware, which, given the small market, would probably cost at least 
twice or three times as much? Who is argument is ridiculous here? Add 
voice input to something for sure. But for a small company like 
humanware to make a single use voice activated speaker would be the 
height of stupid.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 9, 2017, at 1:27 PM, Dane Trethowan > wrote:


That argument is just ridiculous, have you ever used an Amazon Echo 
or a Google home? you can only interact with those devices the one 
way, with your voice!


Obviously you use an App or a Web Page to set these devices up but 
once that's done? Well you either talk and use the device or you fall 
silent and the device drops dead too.





On 11/10/2017 7:59 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
I never said that voice input wouldn't be good, just that having it as
the sole method would not be a good idea; not at all practical.




--

**
"Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life"
**





**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of 
the halfwits in this world behind.

Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Dane Trethowan]

That argument is just ridiculous, have you ever used an Amazon Echo or a 
Google home? you can only interact with those devices the one way, with 
your voice!


Obviously you use an App or a Web Page to set these devices up but once 
that's done? Well you either talk and use the device or you fall silent 
and the device drops dead too.




On 11/10/2017 7:59 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

I never said that voice input wouldn't be good, just that having it as
the sole method would not be a good idea; not at all practical.




--

**
"Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life"
**

Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Yes you’re right Brian but they should have put better hardware into the stream.
I have had my for repair once and i think it needs to go on repair again.
/A

> 9 nov. 2017 kl. 22:14 skrev Brian Olesen :
> 
> Hey Mary,
> You are so perfectly right, and to tell you the truth it's not only blind
> people who feels this way.
> But fascion is playing many of it's tricks on people you know.
> Also a dedicated device for special needs is wonderful.
> For example with a Victor you don't really need to care about power loss or
> battery drainage.
> Charge it once every second day, and you can read on and on as long as you
> like.
> Also manipulating the audio is a time consuming process. Lets say you need
> to go to a certain page in a daisy book with touch, or find a special fraze.
> This is technically speaking possible, but will always and I mean always
> take much longer with touch then with regular keys.
> If you're a student and is planning to study for 5 years these seconds
> becoming minutes becoming hours, becoming days, actually counts against the
> biological human clock, and would be a great unnecessary waist of precious
> time.
> Yes off course I do own the app Voice Dream Reader, and loves it, but
> believe me. I use my Stream 95 % of the time instead.
> I could use my nice Hims U2, and honestly don't know why I don't. Maybe
> because of it's size. But this little handy pocket device feels more like
> reading a real book then using apps for all purposes in life. :-)
> 
> Best regards
> Brian
> 
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Mary Otten
> Sendt: 9. november 2017 21:58
> Til: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Emne: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trekagainst the biological human
> clock.
> 
> More to go wrong or more to enable more people to use the device.  I don't
> own one, but I still know plenty of blind folks who do much better with
> buttons than with touch; were thaIf you're a student and is planning to
> study for 5 years these seconds being minutes becoming hours becoming days
> actually count t not true, HumanWare wouldn't make this stuff.
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Dane Trethowan]

Well enjoy wasting your time then.


> On 10 Nov 2017, at 9:09 am, Peter Scanlon  wrote:
> 
> Good point you make about those seconds wasting time. 
> Today, so much time can be wasted deleting crap emails or social media
> stuff, that wastes time in business or study.
> Especially as it takes us longer to identify a not wanted message than a
> sighted person.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian
> Olesen
> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 8:14 AM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
> Subject: SV: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
> 
> Hey Mary,
> You are so perfectly right, and to tell you the truth it's not only blind
> people who feels this way.
> But fascion is playing many of it's tricks on people you know.
> Also a dedicated device for special needs is wonderful.
> For example with a Victor you don't really need to care about power loss or
> battery drainage.
> Charge it once every second day, and you can read on and on as long as you
> like.
> Also manipulating the audio is a time consuming process. Lets say you need
> to go to a certain page in a daisy book with touch, or find a special fraze.
> This is technically speaking possible, but will always and I mean always
> take much longer with touch then with regular keys.
> If you're a student and is planning to study for 5 years these seconds
> becoming minutes becoming hours, becoming days, actually counts against the
> biological human clock, and would be a great unnecessary waist of precious
> time.
> Yes off course I do own the app Voice Dream Reader, and loves it, but
> believe me. I use my Stream 95 % of the time instead.
> I could use my nice Hims U2, and honestly don't know why I don't. Maybe
> because of it's size. But this little handy pocket device feels more like
> reading a real book then using apps for all purposes in life. :-)
> 
> Best regards
> Brian
> 
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Mary Otten
> Sendt: 9. november 2017 21:58
> Til: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Emne: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trekagainst the biological human
> clock.
> 
> More to go wrong or more to enable more people to use the device.  I don't
> own one, but I still know plenty of blind folks who do much better with
> buttons than with touch; were thaIf you're a student and is planning to
> study for 5 years these seconds being minutes becoming hours becoming days
> actually count t not true, HumanWare wouldn't make this stuff.
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
THanks Eden for letting us know that.
Then there will not be any trek in this house.
I rather use my Nokia 8 or moto g 5 for such purpose or my stream 2 for 
listening to daisy books unless it doesn’t turn of by it self without any 
warning like it use to do for me when i have wifi on.
/A

> 9 nov. 2017 kl. 21:10 skrev Aidan <aidan.smartt...@gmail.com>:
> 
> Yes, the button thing is great, but unfortunetly they did not change
> enough hardware. The stream hardware is quite bad, and all they done
> now is to change the procesor and remove the line in jac to make room
> for the gps antenna.
> They are lazy these days, come out with just a few updates once every
> now and then, and then they brag on the fact that they have different
> teams to work on different products wich are suppose to create the
> impression that they have enough people to make it possible to work on
> these things properly.
> They also now will include an fm radio, wich is great,  but then
> stream users is missing out, and its now unfairely expected that if
> you don't want gps you should buy this thing to get blootooth, and the
> fm radio. This probibly means that the treck will get more updates and
> the other stream little or nothing and then they will suddenly
> discontinue the stream for a new one later. They did the same before
> with the older stream. After they discontinued it, they did not
> provide updates for it to bring it inline with the new model, such as
> to add the consolidate notes and repeat one track only features on the
> notes and music bookshelfs respectively. All about money and they
> don't care.
> Its nice that this unit will have maps onboard, wich means no data
> drain, but so little hardware change is unexceptible.
> 
> On 09/11/2017, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
>> The good thing about Victor is it has real buttons. No need for voice
>> command.
>> I agree doing voice command in public can be a problem.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
>> Otten
>> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 1:33 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
>> 
>> VoiceCommands as an adjunct to an existing device could be good, although I
>> really can’t imagine using one out in public with GPS or or on a bus or
>> whatever. That’s why say it should be an adjunct if they did it. But doesn’t
>> the stream run on Linux? My guess is there aren’t any APIs that would let
>> them use, for instants, Alexa. For my money, with the exception of doing
>> things on the actual device, his voice assistance are vastly overrated. More
>> often than not, you get something that makes you look on the web for what
>> they found, or you get a non-response. We are definitely not in the Star
>> Trek days, so the fact that human where hasn’t come out with something
>> actually like a home or an echo makes perfect sense to me. If they just came
>> out with one of the speaker things, nobody would buy it. Why would you want
>> to buy a specialized speaker made by humanware, when the mainstream ones are
>> after all voice activated. What possible value add it could there be? That’s
>> why I say having some kind of voice deal that would actually let you use
>> your device with voice under the right circumstances could be good.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so
>>> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion.
>>> 
>>> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for
>>> years.
>>> 
>>> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other
>>> similar devices.
>>> 
>>> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated
>>> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of
>>> stuff.
>>> 
>>> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make
>>> what you will of this.
>>> 
>>> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> **
>>> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life"
>>> **
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 

RE: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Peter Scanlon]

Good point you make about those seconds wasting time. 
Today, so much time can be wasted deleting crap emails or social media
stuff, that wastes time in business or study.
Especially as it takes us longer to identify a not wanted message than a
sighted person.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian
Olesen
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 8:14 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
Subject: SV: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

Hey Mary,
You are so perfectly right, and to tell you the truth it's not only blind
people who feels this way.
But fascion is playing many of it's tricks on people you know.
Also a dedicated device for special needs is wonderful.
For example with a Victor you don't really need to care about power loss or
battery drainage.
Charge it once every second day, and you can read on and on as long as you
like.
Also manipulating the audio is a time consuming process. Lets say you need
to go to a certain page in a daisy book with touch, or find a special fraze.
This is technically speaking possible, but will always and I mean always
take much longer with touch then with regular keys.
If you're a student and is planning to study for 5 years these seconds
becoming minutes becoming hours, becoming days, actually counts against the
biological human clock, and would be a great unnecessary waist of precious
time.
Yes off course I do own the app Voice Dream Reader, and loves it, but
believe me. I use my Stream 95 % of the time instead.
I could use my nice Hims U2, and honestly don't know why I don't. Maybe
because of it's size. But this little handy pocket device feels more like
reading a real book then using apps for all purposes in life. :-)

Best regards
Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Mary Otten
Sendt: 9. november 2017 21:58
Til: PC Audio Discussion List 
Emne: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trekagainst the biological human
clock.

More to go wrong or more to enable more people to use the device.  I don't
own one, but I still know plenty of blind folks who do much better with
buttons than with touch; were thaIf you're a student and is planning to
study for 5 years these seconds being minutes becoming hours becoming days
actually count t not true, HumanWare wouldn't make this stuff.

Mary

Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Dane Trethowan]

That’s obviously a personal thing isn’t it? I mean there are plenty of people 
who use Voice commands with their iPhone and Siri, Android phone with Google 
assistant and Goodness only knows how many other GPS and Entertainment devices 
out there.
All new cars sold these days have facilities to accept Voice Commands along 
with Bluetooth speakers etc.


**
“For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s you put in 
the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”




> On 10 Nov 2017, at 1:33 am, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> VoiceCommands as an adjunct to an existing device could be good, although I 
> really can’t imagine using one out in public with GPS or or on a bus or 
> whatever. That’s why say it should be an adjunct if they did it. But doesn’t 
> the stream run on Linux? My guess is there aren’t any APIs that would let 
> them use, for instants, Alexa. For my money, with the exception of doing 
> things on the actual device, his voice assistance are vastly overrated. More 
> often than not, you get something that makes you look on the web for what 
> they found, or you get a non-response. We are definitely not in the Star Trek 
> days, so the fact that human where hasn’t come out with something actually 
> like a home or an echo makes perfect sense to me. If they just came out with 
> one of the speaker things, nobody would buy it. Why would you want to buy a 
> specialized speaker made by humanware, when the mainstream ones are after all 
> voice activated. What possible value add it could there be? That’s why I say 
> having some kind of voice deal that would actually let you use your device 
> with voice under the right circumstances could be good.
> 
> Mary
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>> 
>> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so 
>> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion.
>> 
>> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years.
>> 
>> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other 
>> similar devices.
>> 
>> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated 
>> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff.
>> 
>> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what 
>> you will of this.
>> 
>> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> **
>> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life"
>> **
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Dane Trethowan]

Yep it has buttons, more to go wrong.


**
“For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s you put in 
the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”




> On 10 Nov 2017, at 5:37 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> 
> The good thing about Victor is it has real buttons. No need for voice 
> command. 
> I agree doing voice command in public can be a problem. 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 1:33 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
> 
> VoiceCommands as an adjunct to an existing device could be good, although I 
> really can’t imagine using one out in public with GPS or or on a bus or 
> whatever. That’s why say it should be an adjunct if they did it. But doesn’t 
> the stream run on Linux? My guess is there aren’t any APIs that would let 
> them use, for instants, Alexa. For my money, with the exception of doing 
> things on the actual device, his voice assistance are vastly overrated. More 
> often than not, you get something that makes you look on the web for what 
> they found, or you get a non-response. We are definitely not in the Star Trek 
> days, so the fact that human where hasn’t come out with something actually 
> like a home or an echo makes perfect sense to me. If they just came out with 
> one of the speaker things, nobody would buy it. Why would you want to buy a 
> specialized speaker made by humanware, when the mainstream ones are after all 
> voice activated. What possible value add it could there be? That’s why I say 
> having some kind of voice deal that would actually let you use your device 
> with voice under the right circumstances could be good.
> 
> Mary
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
>> 
>> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so 
>> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion.
>> 
>> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years.
>> 
>> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other 
>> similar devices.
>> 
>> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated 
>> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff.
>> 
>> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what 
>> you will of this.
>> 
>> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> **
>> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life"
>> **
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Aidan]

Yes, the button thing is great, but unfortunetly they did not change
enough hardware. The stream hardware is quite bad, and all they done
now is to change the procesor and remove the line in jac to make room
for the gps antenna.
They are lazy these days, come out with just a few updates once every
now and then, and then they brag on the fact that they have different
teams to work on different products wich are suppose to create the
impression that they have enough people to make it possible to work on
these things properly.
They also now will include an fm radio, wich is great,  but then
stream users is missing out, and its now unfairely expected that if
you don't want gps you should buy this thing to get blootooth, and the
fm radio. This probibly means that the treck will get more updates and
the other stream little or nothing and then they will suddenly
discontinue the stream for a new one later. They did the same before
with the older stream. After they discontinued it, they did not
provide updates for it to bring it inline with the new model, such as
to add the consolidate notes and repeat one track only features on the
notes and music bookshelfs respectively. All about money and they
don't care.
Its nice that this unit will have maps onboard, wich means no data
drain, but so little hardware change is unexceptible.

On 09/11/2017, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> The good thing about Victor is it has real buttons. No need for voice
> command.
> I agree doing voice command in public can be a problem.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
> Otten
> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 1:33 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
>
> VoiceCommands as an adjunct to an existing device could be good, although I
> really can’t imagine using one out in public with GPS or or on a bus or
> whatever. That’s why say it should be an adjunct if they did it. But doesn’t
> the stream run on Linux? My guess is there aren’t any APIs that would let
> them use, for instants, Alexa. For my money, with the exception of doing
> things on the actual device, his voice assistance are vastly overrated. More
> often than not, you get something that makes you look on the web for what
> they found, or you get a non-response. We are definitely not in the Star
> Trek days, so the fact that human where hasn’t come out with something
> actually like a home or an echo makes perfect sense to me. If they just came
> out with one of the speaker things, nobody would buy it. Why would you want
> to buy a specialized speaker made by humanware, when the mainstream ones are
> after all voice activated. What possible value add it could there be? That’s
> why I say having some kind of voice deal that would actually let you use
> your device with voice under the right circumstances could be good.
>
> Mary
>
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 8, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so
>> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion.
>>
>> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for
>> years.
>>
>> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other
>> similar devices.
>>
>> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated
>> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of
>> stuff.
>>
>> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make
>> what you will of this.
>>
>> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html
>>
>> --
>>
>> **
>> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life"
>> **
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

RE: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Peter Scanlon]

The good thing about Victor is it has real buttons. No need for voice command. 
I agree doing voice command in public can be a problem. 


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 1:33 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

VoiceCommands as an adjunct to an existing device could be good, although I 
really can’t imagine using one out in public with GPS or or on a bus or 
whatever. That’s why say it should be an adjunct if they did it. But doesn’t 
the stream run on Linux? My guess is there aren’t any APIs that would let them 
use, for instants, Alexa. For my money, with the exception of doing things on 
the actual device, his voice assistance are vastly overrated. More often than 
not, you get something that makes you look on the web for what they found, or 
you get a non-response. We are definitely not in the Star Trek days, so the 
fact that human where hasn’t come out with something actually like a home or an 
echo makes perfect sense to me. If they just came out with one of the speaker 
things, nobody would buy it. Why would you want to buy a specialized speaker 
made by humanware, when the mainstream ones are after all voice activated. What 
possible value add it could there be? That’s why I say having some kind of 
voice deal that would actually let you use your device with voice under the 
right circumstances could be good.

Mary

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> 
> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so 
> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion.
> 
> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years.
> 
> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other 
> similar devices.
> 
> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated 
> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff.
> 
> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what 
> you will of this.
> 
> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html
> 
> -- 
> 
> **
> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life"
> **
> 
> 

Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Mary Otten]

VoiceCommands as an adjunct to an existing device could be good, although I 
really can’t imagine using one out in public with GPS or or on a bus or 
whatever. That’s why say it should be an adjunct if they did it. But doesn’t 
the stream run on Linux? My guess is there aren’t any APIs that would let them 
use, for instants, Alexa. For my money, with the exception of doing things on 
the actual device, his voice assistance are vastly overrated. More often than 
not, you get something that makes you look on the web for what they found, or 
you get a non-response. We are definitely not in the Star Trek days, so the 
fact that human where hasn’t come out with something actually like a home or an 
echo makes perfect sense to me. If they just came out with one of the speaker 
things, nobody would buy it. Why would you want to buy a specialized speaker 
made by humanware, when the mainstream ones are after all voice activated. What 
possible value add it could there be? That’s why I say having some kind of 
voice deal that would actually let you use your device with voice under the 
right circumstances could be good.

Mary

Mary


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> On Nov 8, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so 
> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion.
> 
> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years.
> 
> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other 
> similar devices.
> 
> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated 
> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff.
> 
> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what 
> you will of this.
> 
> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html
> 
> -- 
> 
> **
> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life"
> **
> 
> 

RE: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Peter Scanlon]

What is aptx why is that better than what ever other Blue Tooth?



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Anders 
Holmberg
Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 11:29 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

Hi!
I wonder if the trek has bluetooth with aptx.
I don’t think so.
/A

> 9 nov. 2017 kl. 06:05 skrev Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>:
> 
> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so 
> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion.
> 
> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years.
> 
> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other 
> similar devices.
> 
> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated 
> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff.
> 
> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what 
> you will of this.
> 
> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html
> 
> -- 
> 
> **
> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life"
> **
> 
> 

Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Mary Otten]

I do not think so. They don’t mention it when they reference bluetooth. Best to 
ask to be sure.


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> On Nov 9, 2017, at 4:46 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Yes but does it support the aptx format.
> I don’t want to spend another bunch of money for a device and be disappointed 
> again.
> My second gen stream is still alive and kicking but very often crashes even 
> though its been on repair and have been reset a bunch of times.
> I rather use a stable android phone or Iphone for these purposes if the trek 
> shows similar tendences.
> /A
> 
>> 9 nov. 2017 kl. 13:37 skrev JOHN RIEHL <realma...@verizon.net>:
>> 
>> The victor Trekker does have Bluetooth capability. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Anders 
>> Holmberg
>> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 7:29 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I wonder if the trek has bluetooth with aptx.
>> I don’t think so.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 9 nov. 2017 kl. 06:05 skrev Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>:
>>> 
>>> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so 
>>> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion.
>>> 
>>> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years.
>>> 
>>> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other 
>>> similar devices.
>>> 
>>> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated 
>>> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff.
>>> 
>>> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make 
>>> what you will of this.
>>> 
>>> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> 
>>> **
>>> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life"
>>> **
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Yes but does it support the aptx format.
I don’t want to spend another bunch of money for a device and be disappointed 
again.
My second gen stream is still alive and kicking but very often crashes even 
though its been on repair and have been reset a bunch of times.
I rather use a stable android phone or Iphone for these purposes if the trek 
shows similar tendences.
/A

> 9 nov. 2017 kl. 13:37 skrev JOHN RIEHL <realma...@verizon.net>:
> 
> The victor Trekker does have Bluetooth capability. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Anders 
> Holmberg
> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 7:29 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
> 
> Hi!
> I wonder if the trek has bluetooth with aptx.
> I don’t think so.
> /A
> 
>> 9 nov. 2017 kl. 06:05 skrev Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>:
>> 
>> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so 
>> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion.
>> 
>> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years.
>> 
>> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other 
>> similar devices.
>> 
>> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated 
>> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff.
>> 
>> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what 
>> you will of this.
>> 
>> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> **
>> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life"
>> **
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 

RE: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[JOHN RIEHL]

The victor Trekker does have Bluetooth capability. 

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Anders 
Holmberg
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 7:29 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

Hi!
I wonder if the trek has bluetooth with aptx.
I don’t think so.
/A

> 9 nov. 2017 kl. 06:05 skrev Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>:
> 
> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so 
> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion.
> 
> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years.
> 
> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other 
> similar devices.
> 
> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated 
> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff.
> 
> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what 
> you will of this.
> 
> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html
> 
> -- 
> 
> **
> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life"
> **
> 
> 

Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I wonder if the trek has bluetooth with aptx.
I don’t think so.
/A

> 9 nov. 2017 kl. 06:05 skrev Dane Trethowan :
> 
> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so 
> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion.
> 
> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years.
> 
> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other 
> similar devices.
> 
> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated 
> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff.
> 
> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what 
> you will of this.
> 
> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html
> 
> -- 
> 
> **
> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life"
> **
> 
>