Re: [PD-dev] signal object test template for automated unit testing

2011-10-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 25, 2011, at 11:44 AM, F.J. Kraan wrote: On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner> wrote: Ah, course, makes sense. The third item there, the IIR filters, it should be not too hard to reproduce the exact same operation with them too. With the tests, each one

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended: re-organizing libraries

2011-10-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
The 'mrpeach' library will remain in Pd-extended for as long as its useful. I don't think 'mrpeach' should be packaged and included in Debian tho. As for libraries included in Pd-extended, this is the central location. Anything without a maintainer will be dropped from Pd- extended if

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 25, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 18:36 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Pd vanilla still has different box sizes on different platforms, if I remember correctly, therefore the sizes will have to change somewhere. I made a little test patch and

Re: [PD-dev] 'tests' section of pure-data/trunk svn?

2011-10-24 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Monday, October 24, 2011 1:10 PM, "Marvin Humphrey" wrote: > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 03:26:18PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > > I've been thinking now that we are starting to get some testing > > infrastructure in place, we need a place to

Re: [PD-dev] 'tests' section of pure-data/trunk svn?

2011-10-24 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Monday, October 24, 2011 10:27 PM, "IOhannes m zmoelnig" wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 2011-10-24 22:10, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > > > >> I propose we use the suffix "-regressiontest.pd" for tests, then we can > >> have a script that crawls the whole pure-da

Re: [PD-dev] signal object test template for automated unit testing

2011-10-24 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Monday, October 24, 2011 10:11 PM, "katja" wrote: > Hans, thanks for your comments > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner > wrote: > > > > That looks really good on many levels. :)  I like the layout, I hadn't > > thought of

[PD-dev] 'tests' section of pure-data/trunk svn?

2011-10-24 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I've been thinking now that we are starting to get some testing infrastructure in place, we need a place to organize them in the pure- data SVN. I propose we add a tests/ section to trunk in SVN next to externals/ scripts/ etc. This section would be for the testing scripts, and for any t

Re: [PD-dev] signal object test template for automated unit testing

2011-10-24 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
That looks really good on many levels. :) I like the layout, I hadn't thought of standard deviation, that makes sense as long as we can specify "exact" as a possibility. My guess is that some of this stuff should produce the same bit sequence every time, but I could be wrong there. Pe

Re: [PD-dev] More objects in pd-double-auto-build package (Debian amd64)

2011-10-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 22, 2011, at 5:11 PM, F.J. Kraan wrote: On 2011-10-22 22:12, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey Fred Jan, That is a good process, I do it a lot, thanks for writing it up. I think the next step is getting everything compiling so that we have complete builds each night. That makes

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 22, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: - Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner To: Jonathan Wilkes Cc: Miller Puckette ; "pd-dev@iem.at" Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 12:49 AM Subject: Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance On Oct 21, 2

Re: [PD-dev] More objects in pd-double-auto-build package (Debian amd64)

2011-10-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Fred Jan, That is a good process, I do it a lot, thanks for writing it up. I think the next step is getting everything compiling so that we have complete builds each night. That makes testing much easier since a) the build process is automated, and b) all of the libraries are easily

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 21, 2011, at 11:56 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: - Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner To: Miller Puckette Cc: pd-dev@iem.at Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance That would be great, to make it really work well

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
arbitrary size. .hc On Oct 21, 2011, at 7:48 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: Oh -- I misunderstood. I like the idea of making this an option (eitehr growing to the standard box size or huggung the actual size of the font we're getting). cheers Miller On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 07:43:17PM -0

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I think we're talking about the box sizes rather than the font sizes. Those can just be hard-coded to a certain size in pixels, then the font can be measured to fit into those boxes. That's the approach that Pd-extended has been doing since 0.41 or 0.40, I forget which. That's how it w

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 21, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 17:15 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 21, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 12:33 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 21, 2011, at 5:49 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: Hi Hans

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 21, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 12:33 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 21, 2011, at 5:49 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: Hi Hans I noticed a significant difference between Pd-extended-0.43 and Pd-vanilla-0.43 appearance. Symbol- and Numberboxes

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 21, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 22:24 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 12:33 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 21, 2011, at 5:49 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: I also noticed that Pd-extended-0.43 on OS X does not use anti

Re: [PD-dev] pd-double builds are actually double now

2011-10-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 21, 2011, at 7:43 AM, katja wrote: Starting on October 20, nightly builds tagged as pd-double are really built in double precision. All earlier builds were single precision or a mix of single and double. In double precision, only Linux builds succeed, partly. From the logs, you can see

Re: [PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

2011-10-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 21, 2011, at 5:49 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: Hi Hans I noticed a significant difference between Pd-extended-0.43 and Pd-vanilla-0.43 appearance. Symbol- and Numberboxes are 2 px higher in Extended than in Vanilla. This is especially problematic in cases where a GOP-patch in Vanilla was

Re: [PD-dev] pd-double: how to selectively build external libs for development?

2011-10-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 20, 2011, at 6:32 AM, katja wrote: On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 12:05 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner > wrote: AH, right, you need to include a symlink to src/ called bin/ then it should all work. I do this a lot, so I know it works once it setup. But I might not always remember the details

Re: [PD-dev] how to load shared code for libraries

2011-10-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 20, 2011, at 9:32 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-19 18:33, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Does it work for you? it seems to work ok. at least the objects are loading (though i get a lot of tcl/tk errors with some of the

Re: [PD-dev] pd-double: how to selectively build external libs for development?

2011-10-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:56 PM, "katja" wrote: > On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner > wrote: > > > I think skipping 'make install' alltogether and just running things directly > > is much easier for dev work.  Som

Re: [PD-dev] pd-double: how to selectively build external libs for development?

2011-10-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 18, 2011, at 7:37 PM, katja wrote: Tried all day to build some of pd-double in pd-svn, but what worked yesterday stopped working today, after svn update. Well update, it was a fresh checkout for compelling reasons. Here is an updated version of how to build things selectively: - clone

Re: [PD-dev] pd-double: how to selectively build external libs for development?

2011-10-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 19, 2011, at 3:15 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-19 21:07, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I don't really understand what you're saying here. it seems so. Yes, it is actually true. I do not understand. Care

Re: [PD-dev] pd-double: how to selectively build external libs for development?

2011-10-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 19, 2011, at 2:14 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/19/2011 06:31 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: If pd/src/m_pd.h is the only thing that loads pd/src/config.h and m_pd.h does #include "config.h", this is not a problem.

Re: [PD-dev] pd-double: how to selectively build external libs for development?

2011-10-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 19, 2011, at 3:29 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-18 22:16, katja wrote: On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner > wrote: Another idea for handling this is to use the ./configure --enable-double-precision f

Re: [PD-dev] how to load shared code for libraries

2011-10-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 19, 2011, at 3:30 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-19 01:29, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yes! I got it working. I see the way to use it for this situation, this looks like great news! Does it work for you? .hc

Re: [PD-dev] how to load shared code for libraries

2011-10-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Tuesday, October 18, 2011 6:50 PM, "Hans-Christoph Steiner" wrote: > > On Thursday, September 29, 2011 8:49 AM, "IOhannes m zmölnig" > wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 09/28/2011 03:07 PM, Hans-Chris

Re: [PD-dev] how to load shared code for libraries

2011-10-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Thursday, September 29, 2011 8:49 AM, "IOhannes m zmölnig" wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 09/28/2011 03:07 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > > Ah, ok, that changes things. So you are sure there isn't a way to

Re: [PD-dev] pd-double: how to selectively build external libs for development?

2011-10-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 18, 2011, at 2:54 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-17 22:27, katja wrote: There's however a small issue to reckon with: at the moment, the only way to force double precision compilation upon the external libs, is to hardcode #defi

Re: [PD-dev] makefile template

2011-10-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 18, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Patrice Colet wrote: - Mail original - De: "IOhannes m zmoelnig" À: pd-dev@iem.at Envoyé: Mardi 18 Octobre 2011 08:49:12 Objet: Re: [PD-dev] makefile template -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-18 05:01, Patrice Colet wrote: c_ex

Re: [PD-dev] pd-double: how to selectively build external libs for development?

2011-10-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 17, 2011, at 4:27 PM, katja wrote: On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: If you want to have default preferences loaded, which load libraries, etc. at startup, you should be able to copy the Pd-extended prefs file and stick it into two levels down from

Re: [PD-dev] commit access + intro

2011-10-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
t, ll. Al 17/10/11 20:18, En/na Hans-Christoph Steiner ha escrit: Just have Lluis or Yves email pd-dev to ask commit access for you, and I'll add you. .hc On Oct 17, 2011, at 1:33 PM, Ricardo Fabbri wrote: Hello, Hans, Thanks for your remarks. I really think the patch tracker is a

Re: [PD-dev] commit access + intro

2011-10-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
re, With time things could change if We get more confidence ... On the other hand, I must say I'm pleassed to have more people working together in pd_opencv. For sure there a millions of things to explore! best, ll. Ricardo -- Linux registered user #175401 www.lems.brown.edu/~rfabbri O

Re: [PD-dev] commit access + intro

2011-10-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
ld like you to know about the situation. Sincerely, Ricardo -- Linux registered user #175401 www.lems.brown.edu/~rfabbri On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: That's a good idea, try looking in the bug tracker and starting there with any bug that you are inter

Re: [PD-dev] makefile template

2011-10-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 17, 2011, at 12:08 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-17 17:11, Patrice Colet wrote: Hello IOhannes, all I could say is this: $ make -p -n | grep CXX make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. LINK.cc = $(CXX) $(C

Re: [PD-dev] pd-double: how to selectively build external libs for development?

2011-10-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 17, 2011, at 8:29 AM, katja wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 4:27 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I recommend removing the pd from svn and replacing it with the pd- double.git folder named as 'pd'. THen its all the same tree. That'll save you a lot of headache

Re: [PD-dev] external libs that refuse double precision compilation

2011-10-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Friday, October 14, 2011 2:48 PM, "katja" wrote: > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner > wrote: > > > > On Oct 13, 2011, at 8:37 PM, katja wrote: > > >> Indeed I stumbled upon that extra extra when trying to find the > >&g

Re: [PD-dev] external libs that refuse double precision compilation

2011-10-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 13, 2011, at 8:37 PM, katja wrote: On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:53 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner > wrote: what's the easiest way to force double on 10.5 or other 32-bit platform? Another way would be to add -DPD_FLOAT_PRECISION=64 to the CFLAGS in packages/darwin_app/

Re: [PD-dev] external libs that refuse double precision compilation

2011-10-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 01:28 +0200, katja wrote: > Today I built the sources from the pd-double autobuild on OSX 10.5. In > order to force double precision I added --enable-double-precision to > the PD_CONFIGURE_FLAGS in the Makefile for darwin_app. This gives a > double precision core, but unfortun

Re: [PD-dev] makefile template

2011-10-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
The current template is setup for only C, but it should be easy enough to adapt it. Mostly just change references to .c to .cpp (or .cc or .cxx or one of the far too many C++ file extensions). Then change references from CC to CXX and CFLAGS to CXXFLAGS. But you might not even need to d

Re: [PD-dev] pd-double build still having single externals

2011-10-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 13, 2011, at 10:59 AM, katja wrote: On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Indeed, its true. That's a tricky problem. I think I got it right this time, I just pushed my commit to github. Basically, I made it so PD_FLOAT_PRECISION is set in m_pd.h

[PD-dev] CLR loader in Pd-extended?

2011-10-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Now that Martin has nailed now pdlua and its loaded by default in Pd- extended 0.43, and Federico is fixing the last bugs in tclpd and it'll be loaded by default soon, I also remember that Thomas Grill wrote the CLR loader for languages like C#. Thomas, or anyone, what's the status of tha

[PD-dev] adding an "Open" method to pdlua and tclpd

2011-10-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Now that pdlua and tclpd are officially part of Pd-extended, I just had a little thought/feature request to make working with those objects easier. It would be very nice if you could right-click on the object, and click "Open" and have Pd open the script file in the associated editor. Y

Re: [PD-dev] recent pd-double nightly builds crash at start up

2011-10-12 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 12, 2011, at 8:49 AM, katja wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 4:32 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: That's the 10.6 compatibilily issue I was talking about. Try searching for that error message, and you should find what I mean. apparently 10.6 loads dynamic libr

[PD-dev] "load every help" logs now posted to autobuild.puredata.info

2011-10-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey all, I've been working a bit on some testing scripts for Pd-extended. Currently, the main one is load_every_help.py, which does just that: it loads every help file included in Pd-extended, and checks the output. If there is output, it adds that output to the log. The log is upload

Re: [PD-dev] recent pd-double nightly builds crash at start up

2011-10-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
That's the 10.6 compatibilily issue I was talking about. Try searching for that error message, and you should find what I mean. apparently 10.6 loads dynamic libraries differently than 10.5. .hc On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:27 PM, katja wrote: Hans, pd-double x86_64 nightly builds crash on my

Re: [PD-dev] pd-double: how to selectively build external libs for development?

2011-10-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 11, 2011, at 8:14 PM, katja wrote: On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner > wrote: Cyclone has its own layout and build system that is pretty elaborate, and is different when its installed. For Pd-extended I've actually wrapped the build system in miXed

Re: [PD-dev] loadbang and sys_vgui

2011-10-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Wilkes wrote: Thanks, Hans. But then how would I override the normal loadbang behavior for that one particular canvas method? -Jonathan - Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner To: Jonathan Wilkes Cc: "pd-dev@iem.at" Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:25 PM Subject:

Re: [PD-dev] pd-double: how to selectively build external libs for development?

2011-10-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 23:47 +0200, katja wrote: > Today I wanted to find out what cyclone needs to be made > double-precision-ready. To start with, I tried to just build the > current code together with the pd-double core. I followed the howto on > http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WorkingWithPdE

Re: [PD-dev] loadbang and sys_vgui

2011-10-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
You could try listening for the <> event. That gets sent once the GUI is done loading a patch. Its from. ::pdtk_canvas::finished_loading_file. .hc On Oct 9, 2011, at 11:45 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Hi, I've run into an issue with my tooltips when using manual mode: [loadbang] |

Re: [PD-dev] pd-double builds are actually double now

2011-10-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 9, 2011, at 5:14 PM, katja wrote: On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Ok, I just tested the Mac OS X 64-bit build of Pd-double and it is indeed double precision. I say we start announcing it and spreading the word to get people testing it, and maybe

Re: [PD-dev] pd-double build still having single externals

2011-10-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Indeed, its true. That's a tricky problem. I think I got it right this time, I just pushed my commit to github. Basically, I made it so PD_FLOAT_PRECISION is set in m_pd.h based on the bitness of the build, but can be overridden by externally setting PD_FLOAT_PRECISION. So the ./confi

Re: [PD-dev] Patch tracker usage

2011-10-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 9, 2011, at 6:40 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2011-10-09 12:54 Message: This sounds great, I'll include it in Pd-extended and we'll see how it does there. The only problem is that there are two patches included in th

[PD-dev] pd-double builds are actually double now

2011-10-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Ok, I just tested the Mac OS X 64-bit build of Pd-double and it is indeed double precision. I say we start announcing it and spreading the word to get people testing it, and maybe fixing up their code and/ or contributing to fixing things. Katya, do you want to post such an announcement t

[PD-dev] tclpd works!

2011-10-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Federico, Tclpd is working on Mac OS X, very exciting. I was just going through your examples, and I wanted to report some errors, some minor, some major. Which reminds me, do you know about logpost()? It allows you to post at different levels, like normal, debug, error, etc. For t

Re: [PD-dev] Fwd: pd double autobuilds

2011-10-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 9, 2011, at 5:22 AM, katja wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: And yes, vanilla/ is an experiment in splitting out the internals into a library. This allows people to write highly optimized versions of it for specific situations, like specific

Re: [PD-dev] pd source - trying to understand m_mainloop() and sched_tick()

2011-10-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I think that stuff is the polling versus callback scheduling when talking to the audio device. If you look in the audio preferences, there is a check box that says "use callbacks". My guess is that will enable m_callbackscheduler(). .hc On Oct 8, 2011, at 11:39 PM, Rich E wrote: Hi a

Re: [PD-dev] Shrink s_utf8.[ch]?

2011-10-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
We talked a bunch in #dataflow on this topic, so I thought I'd post the transcript here: creamygoodness IRC 11:16:06 mescalinum: I'm curious whether the patch to s_utf8.c I supplied eliminates the segfault you described the other day. mescalinum IRC 11:38:33 creamygoodness, I'm unable to

Re: [PD-dev] pd double autobuilds

2011-10-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 7, 2011, at 8:13 PM, katja wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 12:08 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I think this is caused by using the 10.6 build on 10.5. It is only partially compatible. Pd-0.43.1-extended-20111002.app, an x86_64 build, tries to load libs from Pd-extended.app

Re: [PD-dev] pd double autobuilds

2011-10-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 8, 2011, at 4:29 AM, katja wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 3:21 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Unfortunately, the rest of the code is in a separate repo, and its svn. You can get SVN commit access by requesting it: Oh yeah, sorry, forgot about that for a moment. Very

Re: [PD-dev] pd double autobuilds

2011-10-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 21:21 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > On Sat, 2011-10-08 at 02:12 +0200, katja wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 12:08 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner > > wrote: > > > > > I think this is caused by using the 10.6 build on 10.5. It is o

Re: [PD-dev] pd double autobuilds

2011-10-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 20:39 +0200, katja wrote: > On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > But I guess then these nightly builds don't help you that much, since > > you're on 10.5. > > In itself Pd-0.43.1-double-20111007-macosx106-x8

Re: [PD-dev] Mac OS X 10.5 vs zexy's autogen.sh

2011-10-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 09:34 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 10/05/2011 11:03 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > Perhaps your zexy scripts are modifying the build environment? It first > > why do you think so.

Re: [PD-dev] pd double autobuilds

2011-10-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yeah, my 64-bit detection on Mac OS X is somewhat weak because it just looks at the OS major version. It automatically enables double-precision on Mac OS X 10.6 or above. And below 10.6, it defaults to single precision. 10.5 did not fully support 64-bit, so I think this makes sense for the auto

Re: [PD-dev] I have 3 broken installs [was: Re: double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks]

2011-10-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 6, 2011, at 12:19 PM, András Murányi wrote: Do you have access to an ARM machine? If not, I could probably get one online with ssh access, if that's useful. I've mailed Joe White with the question if he can patch the code for libpd and check performance on ARM. He has done some e

[PD-dev] Pd-extended's "make clean" actually cleans

2011-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I did a little testing with rsync --dry-run, and fixed the last remaining issues to the running "make clean" in packages/*/Makefile. So now you can actually run "make clean" and start again without having to run the rsync script :) .hc --

Re: [PD-dev] build instructions for pd-extended

2011-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 06:53 -0300, Ricardo Fabbri wrote: > Hey Hans, > > On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > SVN is a lot > > easier than git, and I figure anyone how knows 'git svn' doesn't need > > to have it docum

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 00:33 +0200, katja wrote: > 2011/10/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner : > > > I removed the old build system from pd-double.git and pushed the change. > > Hopefully that'll reduce confusion. > > Yeah I was using the old build system all the time becaus

Re: [PD-dev] Mac OS X 10.5 vs zexy's autogen.sh

2011-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 17:03 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 22:42 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 10/05/2011 10:04 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > On Wed, 2

Re: [PD-dev] Mac OS X 10.5 vs zexy's autogen.sh

2011-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 22:42 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 10/05/2011 10:04 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 21:42 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED M

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 21:37 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 10/05/2011 12:40 PM, katja wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:38 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig > > wrote: > > > >> the proper way is to use CPPFLAGS="-DPD_FLOAT_PRECISION=64", > >

Re: [PD-dev] Mac OS X 10.5 vs zexy's autogen.sh

2011-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 21:42 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 10/05/2011 09:18 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > > On Oct 5, 2011, at 12:45 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > > > >> -BEGIN

Re: [PD-dev] Mac OS X 10.5 vs zexy's autogen.sh

2011-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 5, 2011, at 12:45 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-05 18:16, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 5, 2011, at 4:05 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: The logfile I see says its set to: PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/sw/bin:/sw

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 5, 2011, at 5:08 AM, katja wrote: On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:11 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: So you are saying that the stuff in pd-double is not building using 64-bit floats? I downloaded Pd-0.43.1-double-20111003-macosx106-x86_64.dmg from the auto-build and this one was

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 5, 2011, at 6:40 AM, katja wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:38 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: the proper way is to use CPPFLAGS="-DPD_FLOAT_PRECISION=64", But now you undo the CPPFLAGS as defined in the makefile. I didn't know how to add to the CFLAGS from the command line, but f

Re: [PD-dev] Mac OS X 10.5 vs zexy's autogen.sh

2011-10-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 5, 2011, at 4:05 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-03 18:48, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 3, 2011, at 5:06 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-02 22:27, Hans-Christoph

Re: [PD-dev] nightly builds should now have debug symbols

2011-10-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
in ?? () from c:\Users\q\Desktop\Pd-0.43.1-extended-20111004\bin\pd.dll (gdb) Il 04/10/2011 23:06, Hans-Christoph Steiner ha scritto: I tried to fix up the CFLAGS last night so that all of the nightly builds would have full debug symbols on all platforms. Give it a try and let me know if it

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 4, 2011, at 7:06 PM, katja wrote: Forgot to mention this: at start up there's a logpost (level 3) 'PD_FLOATPRECISION=32 bits' for single and 'PD_FLOATPRECISION=64 bits' for double build. Ah, so tomorrow a single and double precision build will automatically be made? Cool. It's con

[PD-dev] nightly builds should now have debug symbols

2011-10-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I tried to fix up the CFLAGS last night so that all of the nightly builds would have full debug symbols on all platforms. Give it a try and let me know if it works for you. .hc Mistrust authority - promote decen

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Patches-3417757 ] better install instructions to pix_opencv

2011-10-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Lluis, I'm doing well, good to hear from you! I've joined the baby club, I have a two month old son named Johann. :-D Hope your baby is still keeping you happy About the tracker, it is just information. You'll need to make any commits yourself. Its basically like a web forum. .

[PD-dev] PdLab news: macosx105-i386, windowsxp-i386 and pd-double

2011-10-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
In PdLab build farm news: - macosx105-i386 is back in action, I guess it crashed, I just rebooted it - windowsxp-i386 I upgraded the Cygwin from 1.5 to 1.7, I hope that makes the cygwin stuff work smoother. - there is now a 'pd-double' build, which is pure-data.git with Katja's double-

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 4, 2011, at 10:54 AM, András Murányi wrote: 2011/10/4 Hans-Christoph Steiner On Oct 4, 2011, at 10:19 AM, András Murányi wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 18:26, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 3, 2011, at 12:04 PM, katja wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Hans

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 4, 2011, at 10:19 AM, András Murányi wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 18:26, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 3, 2011, at 12:04 PM, katja wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Do you have access to an ARM machine? If not, I could probably

Re: [PD-dev] where is Pd's "-stdlib"? (was Re: request sponsor/upload for pd-pdstring)

2011-10-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 4, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 09:45 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 4, 2011, at 5:19 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: I'm all for [import] and I also think it is much nicer to use, but unfortunately it is not (yet) part of vanilla. And y

Re: [PD-dev] where is Pd's "-stdlib"? (was Re: request sponsor/upload for pd-pdstring)

2011-10-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 4, 2011, at 5:19 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Mon, 2011-10-03 at 13:06 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 3, 2011, at 3:54 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @pd-dev: in the course of making packages for debian, we discovered another

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 4, 2011, at 5:38 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-04 09:06, katja wrote: Yesterday I forgot to mention why it should definitely not be built with -O0 (unless for debug purposes): PD_BIGORSMALL is defined an ah yes, this was inde

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 00:56 +0200, katja wrote: > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 7:08 PM, katja wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:21 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > > > >> apropos performance: > >> on my i5 650 @ 3.2GHz, running debian > >> and trying to osc-delay-perfotest.pd (with only 400 osc-delay

Re: [PD-dev] Mac OS X 10.5 vs zexy's autogen.sh

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 3, 2011, at 1:22 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-03 19:19, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2011-10-03 18:48, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I don't really know why this is happening, but I do know that the ./autogen.sh in

Re: [PD-dev] where is Pd's "-stdlib"? (was Re: request sponsor/upload for pd-pdstring)

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 3, 2011, at 3:54 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @pd-dev: in the course of making packages for debian, we discovered another slight problem with the "-stdpath" and "-stdlib" flags for declare (and probably this also expands to the "-nostdpath

Re: [PD-dev] Mac OS X 10.5 vs zexy's autogen.sh

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 3, 2011, at 5:06 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-02 22:27, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: FYI: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2011-10-02/logs/2011-10-02_03.15.26_darwin_macosx105-i386_pd-extended.txt hmm, i cannot

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
More on actually trying the patch. I tried to apply it to the HEAD of pure-data.git, and one section failed: pd@debian-lenny-i386 src $ patch -p1 < ../../pd_doubleready/ make_Pd_core_0430_double_ready.patch patching file d_array.c patching file d_math.c patching file d_misc.c Hunk #2 FAILE

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 3, 2011, at 12:04 PM, katja wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Do you have access to an ARM machine? If not, I could probably get one online with ssh access, if that's useful. I've mailed Joe White with the question if he can patc

[PD-dev] performance testing WAS: double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 3, 2011, at 12:21 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-03 18:04, katja wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Do you have access to an ARM machine? If not, I could probably get one online with ssh

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 3, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Charles Henry wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:19 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-03 16:31, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: These all sound like good ideas to try. My only concern is that we might let

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I think for now, we'll just have Pd-extended-like monolithic builds which will be easy to use on their own and will include enough libraries to be useful. They can be run standalone, and if need be, we can disable things like ~/pd-externals quite easily. These kinds of deployment issues

Re: [PD-dev] Help for sourceforge.net

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 3, 2011, at 11:21 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-03 17:16, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Mon, 2011-10-03 at 10:47 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Looks like it was set to Pending, do you still need help with it? No, that is

Re: [PD-dev] Help for sourceforge.net

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Looks like it was set to Pending, do you still need help with it? .hc On Oct 3, 2011, at 2:28 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: Hi all A bug was assigned to me and the issue can be closed now. However, I cannot figure out a way to change the status of the issue. Probably I'm missing the proper pri

Re: [PD-dev] w32 PdLab machine broken (was Re: w32 PdLab machine down?)

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 3, 2011, at 5:53 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-10-03 11:49, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: when i try to login to the machine, i get: Uptime for this computer is 10 [main] gawk 2200 C:\cygwin\bin\gawk.exe: *** fatal error - Creat

Re: [PD-dev] double precision Pd: .patch files, tests and benchmarks

2011-10-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 3, 2011, at 8:28 AM, katja wrote: On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 11:36 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I think it makes sense to work off of pure-data.git rather than pd-extended.git since this is a patch targetted at getting into Miller's repo. Right. Even then, we could add

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